Comments on: Iraqi Parliamentarian: 70 Percent Of Iraqis Want Withdrawal, Huge U.S. Embassy Not A ‘Positive Signal’ http://thinkprogress.org/2008/06/04/iraq-parliament/ Fri, 27 Nov 2009 01:48:15 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: deebaser http://thinkprogress.org/2008/06/04/iraq-parliament/comment-page-2/#comment-4998872 deebaser Thu, 05 Jun 2008 13:37:37 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/06/04/iraq-parliament/#comment-4998872 I thought parliamentarians were the kids that had a dog-eared copy of Robert's Rules of Order and weren't actually 'members of parliment'. Then again, Im probably wrong. Cheers to Ron Paul and one of the few things he's actually right about. I thought parliamentarians were the kids that had a dog-eared copy of Robert’s Rules of Order and weren’t actually ‘members of parliment’. Then again, Im probably wrong.

Cheers to Ron Paul and one of the few things he’s actually right about.

]]> By: joe in oklahoma http://thinkprogress.org/2008/06/04/iraq-parliament/comment-page-2/#comment-4998808 joe in oklahoma Thu, 05 Jun 2008 13:18:53 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/06/04/iraq-parliament/#comment-4998808 but we should not be surprised by this...within a year after taking over Iraq we began the construction of 12 permanent airbases, and used the metal from the temp bases to build the US-Mexico border war. but we should not be surprised by this…within a year after taking over Iraq we began the construction of 12 permanent airbases, and used the metal from the temp bases to build the US-Mexico border war.

]]> By: Abu Ben Hussein Leporello http://thinkprogress.org/2008/06/04/iraq-parliament/comment-page-2/#comment-4998804 Abu Ben Hussein Leporello Thu, 05 Jun 2008 13:17:11 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/06/04/iraq-parliament/#comment-4998804 There's No media coverage on this story. The Liberal Media strikes again! And the Republicans claim Obama's a Stalinist! Control information and you control reality! Impeach Cheney and Bush and Save the Constitution! There’s No media coverage on this story. The Liberal Media strikes again! And the Republicans claim Obama’s a Stalinist! Control information and you control reality!
Impeach Cheney and Bush and Save the Constitution!

]]> By: trollsbwild http://thinkprogress.org/2008/06/04/iraq-parliament/comment-page-1/#comment-4998790 trollsbwild Thu, 05 Jun 2008 13:14:15 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/06/04/iraq-parliament/#comment-4998790 Bush repeatedly has stated that our commtiiment was not open ended. Now he is trying to make a back room deal to keep us there permanently. The man is a bald faced liar. Congress should immediately investigate this possibliity. After all, we do not want any Bush poo after January 20,2009. The new POTUS will lead us out of Iraq with a re-dployment of troops over a reasonable time frame. Bush repeatedly has stated that our commtiiment was not open ended. Now he is trying to make a back room deal to keep us there permanently.
The man is a bald faced liar. Congress should immediately investigate this possibliity. After all, we do not want any Bush poo after January 20,2009. The new POTUS will lead us out of Iraq with a re-dployment of troops over a reasonable time frame.

]]> By: Nevar http://thinkprogress.org/2008/06/04/iraq-parliament/comment-page-1/#comment-4998766 Nevar Thu, 05 Jun 2008 12:59:16 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/06/04/iraq-parliament/#comment-4998766 Here's some more scary stuff... http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/revealed-secret-plan-to-keep-iraq-under-us-control-840512.html Here’s some more scary stuff…

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/revealed-secret-plan-to-keep-iraq-under-us-control-840512.html

]]> By: Nevar http://thinkprogress.org/2008/06/04/iraq-parliament/comment-page-1/#comment-4998760 Nevar Thu, 05 Jun 2008 12:41:20 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/06/04/iraq-parliament/#comment-4998760 joe in oklahoma Says: have the TV networks given this ANY coverage? Not that I've seen joe, but Ed McMahon is facing foreclosure on his home in Beverley Hills..... joe in oklahoma Says:

have the TV networks given this ANY coverage?

Not that I’ve seen joe, but Ed McMahon is facing foreclosure on his home in Beverley Hills…..

]]> By: Menehune http://thinkprogress.org/2008/06/04/iraq-parliament/comment-page-1/#comment-4998758 Menehune Thu, 05 Jun 2008 12:25:52 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/06/04/iraq-parliament/#comment-4998758 And did you hear the latest line they're trying to spin as evidence of Iranian meddling in Iraq? Wait for it--Iran is helping Turkey conduct its cross-border raids to root Kurdish terrorists. C'mon--you can do better than that. We ourselves say that we will pursue terrorists into any country where they are hiding. Unless its a country that we control, in which case other countries pursuing terrorists into the country we control becomes an act of war. And did you hear the latest line they’re trying to spin as evidence of Iranian meddling in Iraq? Wait for it–Iran is helping Turkey conduct its cross-border raids to root Kurdish terrorists. C’mon–you can do better than that. We ourselves say that we will pursue terrorists into any country where they are hiding. Unless its a country that we control, in which case other countries pursuing terrorists into the country we control becomes an act of war.

]]> By: joe in oklahoma http://thinkprogress.org/2008/06/04/iraq-parliament/comment-page-1/#comment-4998756 joe in oklahoma Thu, 05 Jun 2008 12:23:50 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/06/04/iraq-parliament/#comment-4998756 have the TV networks given this ANY coverage? have the TV networks given this ANY coverage?

]]> By: kungtruth http://thinkprogress.org/2008/06/04/iraq-parliament/comment-page-1/#comment-4998754 kungtruth Thu, 05 Jun 2008 12:16:16 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/06/04/iraq-parliament/#comment-4998754 More short hand "The Ayatollah has agreed that no military bases should remain" "Increasing the level of forces did not decrease the levels of violence... the war there is a war between ghost factions... the reduction is due to the volunteers...(Iraqi mercs)" To create a lasting peace "release Iraqi prisoners...bring back the 4.6 million refugees... reparations should be paid... geographic federalism instead of sectarianism" "Once the foreign troops leave the militias will have no justification... the presence of foreign troops serves their purpose" More short hand

“The Ayatollah has agreed that no military bases should remain”

“Increasing the level of forces did not decrease the levels of violence… the war there is a war between ghost factions… the reduction is due to the volunteers…(Iraqi mercs)”

To create a lasting peace
“release Iraqi prisoners…bring back the 4.6 million refugees… reparations should be paid… geographic federalism instead of sectarianism”

“Once the foreign troops leave the militias will have no justification… the presence of foreign troops serves their purpose”

]]> By: RantingTommy http://thinkprogress.org/2008/06/04/iraq-parliament/comment-page-1/#comment-4998752 RantingTommy Thu, 05 Jun 2008 12:08:40 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/06/04/iraq-parliament/#comment-4998752 Now that Obama will be our next President, here's to hoping to a swift end to the illegal occupation of Iraq (stop calling it a war, people, only Congress can declare war) Now that Obama will be our next President, here’s to hoping to a swift end to the illegal occupation of Iraq (stop calling it a war, people, only Congress can declare war)

]]> By: tarazan http://thinkprogress.org/2008/06/04/iraq-parliament/comment-page-1/#comment-4998750 tarazan Thu, 05 Jun 2008 12:04:02 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/06/04/iraq-parliament/#comment-4998750 This is the only way for Congress to know what's going on iside Iraq...and that is to ask the Iraqis themselves..not just relying on government and media reports. Congress needs to have more hearings like this one talking to all segments of Iraqi society..women,Christians and minorities,workers and slave markets to see how they are impacted by this war. Also Congress need to know where are Iraqi and American monies are going, how are they spent, and who is really benefiting. For years Congress relied on rosy pictures assessments presented to Congress unchecked. Time to take another approach that might lead Congress to the truth about what's going on really inside Iraq. This is the only way for Congress to know what’s going on iside Iraq…and that is to ask the Iraqis themselves..not just relying on government and media reports.
Congress needs to have more hearings like this one talking to all segments of Iraqi society..women,Christians and minorities,workers and slave markets to see how they are impacted by this war.
Also Congress need to know where are Iraqi and American monies are going, how are they spent, and who is really benefiting.
For years Congress relied on rosy pictures assessments presented to Congress unchecked.
Time to take another approach that might lead Congress to the truth about what’s going on really inside Iraq.

]]> By: kungtruth http://thinkprogress.org/2008/06/04/iraq-parliament/comment-page-1/#comment-4998746 kungtruth Thu, 05 Jun 2008 11:49:23 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/06/04/iraq-parliament/#comment-4998746 We have needed this dialogue for a long time Some shorthand from the hearing "...we believe that Iraq has the ability to defend itself..." "...maintaining American troops...i now believe this necessity is no longer needed" "I believe maintain American presence is a destabilizing force" - Parliament Member "I would like to see a scheduled withdrawal... in order to build up our forces" -Sheik We have needed this dialogue for a long time

Some shorthand from the hearing

“…we believe that Iraq has the ability to defend itself…”

“…maintaining American troops…i now believe this necessity is no longer needed”

“I believe maintain American presence is a destabilizing force” – Parliament Member

“I would like to see a scheduled withdrawal… in order to build up our forces” -Sheik

]]> By: Max-1 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/06/04/iraq-parliament/comment-page-1/#comment-4998708 Max-1 Thu, 05 Jun 2008 09:08:40 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/06/04/iraq-parliament/#comment-4998708 . <strong>Q U E S T I O N:</strong> Just how can America call China an oppressive Nation toward Tibet when America won't even FREE IRAQ? . .

Q U E S T I O N:
Just how can America call China an oppressive Nation toward Tibet when America won’t even FREE IRAQ?

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]]> By: galmud http://thinkprogress.org/2008/06/04/iraq-parliament/comment-page-1/#comment-4998688 galmud Thu, 05 Jun 2008 06:38:35 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/06/04/iraq-parliament/#comment-4998688 Apparently these Iraqi PMs need to travel with McCain to Iraq to educate themselves about the country Apparently these Iraqi PMs need to travel with McCain to Iraq to educate themselves about the country

]]> By: zathrus http://thinkprogress.org/2008/06/04/iraq-parliament/comment-page-1/#comment-4998676 zathrus Thu, 05 Jun 2008 06:22:46 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/06/04/iraq-parliament/#comment-4998676 AL-JABERI: I ask you to perhaps have a referendum, and that will tell you the truth. Huh? Why should *we* have a referendum? It's *YOUR* country. It's pretty clear that Iraq is dominated by folks who have no interest in the US leaving because it takes all the responsibility for running their country out of their hands. More proof that there really is no option except to leave. AL-JABERI: I ask you to perhaps have a referendum, and that will tell you the truth.

Huh? Why should *we* have a referendum? It’s *YOUR* country. It’s pretty clear that Iraq is dominated by folks who have no interest in the US leaving because it takes all the responsibility for running their country out of their hands. More proof that there really is no option except to leave.

]]> By: Paul W http://thinkprogress.org/2008/06/04/iraq-parliament/comment-page-1/#comment-4998674 Paul W Thu, 05 Jun 2008 06:15:56 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/06/04/iraq-parliament/#comment-4998674 <em>Al-Jaberi said that U.S. presence in Iraq is highly unpopular with the public, as roughly 70 percent of Iraqis favor a withdrawal...</em> And nearly that many Americans want us to withdraw from Iraq as well. Does that make any difference to Bush? Hardly, and this man has the audacity to talk about "democracy." http://progressiveworldreview.com Al-Jaberi said that U.S. presence in Iraq is highly unpopular with the public, as roughly 70 percent of Iraqis favor a withdrawal…

And nearly that many Americans want us to withdraw from Iraq as well. Does that make any difference to Bush? Hardly, and this man has the audacity to talk about “democracy.”

http://progressiveworldreview.com

]]> By: Keith H. http://thinkprogress.org/2008/06/04/iraq-parliament/comment-page-1/#comment-4998666 Keith H. Thu, 05 Jun 2008 05:50:20 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/06/04/iraq-parliament/#comment-4998666 I can't help but think this hearing is a huge step in the right direction. It has felt for a few day's now as if there's been some sort of shifting of the tide. As if this administration is trying to batten down the hatches, but they can't keep from going under, and fast. What I'm not understanding is how committing war crimes doesn't get you removed from your position of power, arrested and prosecuted. I just don't get it. Is there any crime for which these people can be prosecuted ? I can’t help but think this hearing is a huge step in the right direction. It has felt for a few day’s now as if there’s been some sort of shifting of the tide. As if this administration is trying to batten down the hatches, but they can’t keep from going under, and fast.
What I’m not understanding is how committing war crimes doesn’t get you removed from your position of power, arrested and prosecuted. I just don’t get it. Is there any crime for which these people can be prosecuted ?

]]> By: marlow http://thinkprogress.org/2008/06/04/iraq-parliament/comment-page-1/#comment-4998660 marlow Thu, 05 Jun 2008 05:32:54 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/06/04/iraq-parliament/#comment-4998660 RUCerious Says: Perhaps we can turn the embassy into the George W. Bush institute for the criminally insane. He and Cheney could be the first prisoner… er, patients. June 5th, 2008 at 12:53 am I'd rather turn him loose on a certain bridge in Fallujah. RUCerious Says:

Perhaps we can turn the embassy into the George W. Bush institute for the criminally insane.

He and Cheney could be the first prisoner… er, patients.
June 5th, 2008 at 12:53 am
I’d rather turn him loose on a certain bridge in Fallujah.

]]> By: ForTruth http://thinkprogress.org/2008/06/04/iraq-parliament/comment-page-1/#comment-4998658 ForTruth Thu, 05 Jun 2008 05:29:59 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/06/04/iraq-parliament/#comment-4998658 You mean that big, giant, arrogant, in-your face, we got basic necessities and you don't, eff-U and die, US Embassy isn't a good signal? I thought it was at least environmentally friendly, being the "Green Zone" and all. Those Iraqis are just ungrateful! /sarc You mean that big, giant, arrogant, in-your face, we got basic necessities and you don’t, eff-U and die, US Embassy isn’t a good signal?

I thought it was at least environmentally friendly, being the “Green Zone” and all. Those Iraqis are just ungrateful!

/sarc

]]> By: pete http://thinkprogress.org/2008/06/04/iraq-parliament/comment-page-1/#comment-4998654 pete Thu, 05 Jun 2008 05:04:17 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/06/04/iraq-parliament/#comment-4998654 And even if this gets MSM coverage, it will be spun to sound like; <em>"two disgruntled Iraqi parliamentarians said things the Bush administration doesn't like. While we don't know what motivated their baseless attacks, we are confident they speak for a tiny..." "We are sure they citizens of Iraq would like to thank the U.S. for a job well done." "BTW, They and their families are on several no-fly lists. They are potentially dangerous and we believe they are enemy combatants."</em> And even if this gets MSM coverage, it will be spun to sound like; “two disgruntled Iraqi parliamentarians said things the Bush administration doesn’t like. While we don’t know what motivated their baseless attacks, we are confident they speak for a tiny…” “We are sure they citizens of Iraq would like to thank the U.S. for a job well done.” “BTW, They and their families are on several no-fly lists. They are potentially dangerous and we believe they are enemy combatants.”

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