The Israeli press is reporting today, during a White House meeting today, Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert will urge President Bush to prepare an attack on Iran:
Citing sources close to the Israeli prime minister, Yediot Achronot reported on its front page Wednesday that Olmert, who is due to hold closed-door talks with Bush in Washington, will say that “time is running out” on diplomatic efforts to curb Iran’s nuclear program.
The Washington Post’s Dan Froomkin writes that “there are some signs that [Olmert will] have a receptive audience” in his White House meeting. Speaking at AIPAC yesterday, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice delivered an “unusually sharp” verbal assault against Iran. Olmert himself told the audience, “We must stop the Iranian threat by all possible means.”
Despite Bush and Olmert’s mutual agreement on the possible need for force, Yediot Achronot reports that a variety of factors are weighing against such a course of action:
It is doubtful whether such decision, under such circumstances, has a precedent in American history. Almost everything is working against it: The Iranians are not threatening the United States. They are careful about not initiating an incident that would give the Americans a pretext to attack. Such operation has no international support, not openly at least, and most of all, following the entanglement in Iraq most Americans strongly object to opening yet another front in the Middle East and treat any military initiative by Bush with suspicion.
Nevertheless, as time ticks down on Bush’s presidency, the rumors of a possible last-minute military strike on Iran are increasing. The Jerusalem Post reported last month that a senior administration official told Israeli officials to anticipate such an attack.
While the White House has dismissed these reports by claiming they are “not worth the paper they’re printed on,” neoconservatives are getting a very different message. Asked recently whether he could imagine Bush attacking Iran before the end of his term,” John Bolton said, “I think so, definitely.” Norman Podhoretz has made a similar claim. Richard Perle has said he has “very little doubt” that Bush could order a strike before he leaves office.
Will the grand neocon plan work?
The plan was to take out Iraq, Iran and Syria.
So far only 1/3 of the plan from the ‘Clean Break’ (google it) and PNAC mission statement was accomplished.
Will America and her children fight another war for Israel?
June 4th, 2008 at 1:00 pmWell OK some links are in order:
Is Israel to blame for the Iraq War?
Israel to blame for Iraq War – Part 2
June 4th, 2008 at 1:02 pmCan anyone blame Iran for wanting nuclear power when mr.crazy bush wants to invade, invade, invade? I sure would want some defenses against warmonger bush. And with just what Army will bush use, the ones who have been stop-lossed for 18 months? Interesting that the Airborne even are using their people for ground actions.
June 4th, 2008 at 1:02 pm.
The 51st State of America cries for more war crimes…
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June 4th, 2008 at 1:03 pmWell if you ” fill her up” better have a couple c-notes on you.
June 4th, 2008 at 1:03 pmBushbabyy is itching to cause some more crapola before he leaves
take care
tony and guidedog Lido
Wow, what a surprise…unfortunately, if Olmert presents his proposal in a manner that questions bush’s manhood, then the bombers leave by 5 PM!
June 4th, 2008 at 1:03 pm“We would be willing to meet with them but not while they continue to inch toward nuclear weapons under the cover of talks,” she told the group, a pro-Israel lobby known by its acronym, Aipac. “The real question isn’t why won’t the Bush administration talk to Iran. The real question is why won’t Iran talk to us.”
the won’t talk to you because you’re all a bunch of warmongering mobsters.
June 4th, 2008 at 1:04 pmLet’s hope and pray the ‘Liberal Media’ actually carries this story! Considering this Administration’s mania with doing things behind closed doors, keeping the spotlinght on this “War in Waiting” should forestall it, hopefully. This is dismal proof of Einstein’s belief that insanity is doing the same thing over and over, and expecting different results!
June 4th, 2008 at 1:04 pmImpeach Cheney and Bush and Save the Conistitution!
well it’s 1, 2, 3
June 4th, 2008 at 1:04 pmWHAT ARE WE FIGHTING FOR?
DON’T ASK ME I DON’T GIVE A DAMN!
NEXT UP IS BOMB IRAN!!
You know if there is a grand plan to help Israel,and a trigger was needed it certainly makes the theory of Israel mafia pulling off 9/11 more plausible. Sometimes the tinhats have a strong point. It still makes me wonder why bush refused to testify under oath at the 9/11 Commission.
June 4th, 2008 at 1:05 pmWasn’t Olmert asked to step down last week because of corruption allegations?
Why are these two corrupt world leaders allowed to make these decisions?
June 4th, 2008 at 1:07 pmMax-1 Says:
The 51st State of America cries for more war crimes…
they call it, the AMERICAN ISRAEL public affairs committee for a reason.
June 4th, 2008 at 1:07 pmSeriously, FU(K ISRAEL. I’m so tired of Israel. And before someone goes off calling me anti-semitic, Israel does not equal Jews, Israel equals a country where a lot of Jews live.
Nancy, you stupid bee-otch, WHAT WILL IT TAKE FOR YOU TO FIND THAT FREAKING TABLE????
June 4th, 2008 at 1:08 pm“[T]ime is running out” on diplomatic efforts to curb Iran’s nuclear program.
WTF? We haven’t even talked to them yet!
Oh, sorry. That’d be appeasement.
June 4th, 2008 at 1:09 pmAs if Bush doesn’t look foolish every time he opens his mouth.
Sort of like the few people left that support him.
June 4th, 2008 at 1:11 pmHey, Olmert, if you want Iran attacked, why don’t you do it yourself you A$$. Use all those billions in military aid we’ve given you, or the jets we sold you, or the nukes that you have (I believe the number is around 150, more than enough to wipe out Iran). DO IT YOURSELVES.
June 4th, 2008 at 1:12 pmrogers Says:
He’ll look foolish if he doesn’t attack them, after all that.
He cannot even make a complete coherent sentence. Bush is way past the point of looking the fool.
June 4th, 2008 at 1:13 pmAs are you.
Obviously, this is code for time running out on the Bush Presidency. Once Obama takes over, bombing Iran is likely not going to happen. So hurry up and bomb before Bush that possibility ends with a change of presidents.
June 4th, 2008 at 1:13 pmThis proves that Olmert is trying to avoid responsibility for his bribery case and Bush is trying to do this to help John McCain win. These two are lower than an earth worm for wanting to put US Airmen in harms way for political reasons. If the American people allow this to take place our country will be denounced around the world and we will suffer because of it. This man should have never been elected and he doesn’t care about the troops who would have to carry out his political attack. He is beneath contempt for entertaining even a thought about doing something so stupid. Besides the fact that it would lead to the increase possibility of another terrorist attack not to mention extremely higher gas prices. If the American people think $4.00 a gallon is high how about $10.00 a gallon after the oil is stopped in the Persian Gulf.
June 4th, 2008 at 1:15 pmSure….Olmert would love an Iranian attack to deflect attention away from the bribery charges he’s facing.
June 4th, 2008 at 1:15 pmLiberal T – you know that warmongers only want OTHERS to fight and die for their wars right ? Funny how those so crazy for war never actually get into the fight.
June 4th, 2008 at 1:15 pmIt’s the same game plan as 2004 – get a new war on and claim you “shouldn’t change horses mid-stream”.
Typical Republican Cowardice.
June 4th, 2008 at 1:16 pmblackpoll Says:
Wasn’t Olmert asked to step down last week because of corruption allegations?
Why are these two corrupt world leaders allowed to make these decisions?
there’s little that can be done while corporate empires and corrupt crooks are in power.
June 4th, 2008 at 1:16 pmMakes you wonder about September/October, will this criminal president actually try and bomb Iran and then call off the election because of Russia and China threatening to attack us because of an attack on their oil supplier?
I wouldn’t put it past him, I frankly don’t see him leaving the WH without kicking and screaming all the way.
June 4th, 2008 at 1:16 pmI’m an Obama supporter, but I must bring this up because it shows just how similar Hillary, Barack, and John all are, and that we cannot put all our hopes in the Presidency:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080604.wobama0604/BNStory/International/home
It scares me to think that we had a choice between 3 Israel Lobby presidents (now it’s down to 2). My hope is that with Obama as president, we will have a Prez who will obey the will of Congress (i.e. the PEOPLE) and that we can avoid a war with Iran (to please Israel) unless Bushie starts it first…
June 4th, 2008 at 1:17 pmThat anyone is shocked that, after two oil men took over the country, gas more than doubled in price, is…well….
shocking.
June 4th, 2008 at 1:17 pmtexaslady,
June 4th, 2008 at 1:19 pmOf course. Eisenhower said something to that effect (many things related as well), but I cannot remember the quote just now. Something along the lines of a true soldier despises war as he has actually seen its horrors…that’s not even close to literal I don’t think, but you get the drift.
Olmert should be in no position to shove this down our throats. He is under investigation for corruption and may soon be thrown out of office. Bush SHOULDalso not be in a position to decide on this issue. His only deterrent seems to be the threat of Congress stating there will be impeachment hearings if he bombs Iran.
June 4th, 2008 at 1:20 pmThe two ot them should be talking about who they are going to hire as their lawyers for upcoming criminal trials.
liberal traitor Says:
Hey, Olmert, if you want Iran attacked, why don’t you do it yourself you A$$. Use all those billions in military aid we’ve given you, or the jets we sold you, or the nukes that you have (I believe the number is around 150, more than enough to wipe out Iran). DO IT YOURSELVES.
yey! good one!
June 4th, 2008 at 1:20 pmIf you look at most Bushco decisions from the angle of increasing the price of oil/gas, everything they have done makes perfect sense:
1. Invade Iraq – stop Iraqi oil from getting to the market while using up a giant pile of oil and gas in the process
2. Saber rattle with EVERY oil producing nation in the world, not just the middle east, sans Canada, driving the price even higher
3. Deliberately devalue the dollar so as to make oil and gas even MORE expensive
4. Defend oil companies for extorting record profits from record prices
think about it
June 4th, 2008 at 1:21 pmtrollsbwild Says:
Olmert should be in no position to shove this down our throats. He is under investigation for corruption and may soon be thrown out of office. Bush SHOULDalso not be in a position to decide on this issue. His only deterrent seems to be the threat of Congress stating there will be impeachment hearings if he bombs Iran.
The two ot them should be talking about who they are going to hire as their lawyers for upcoming criminal trials.
well, what about Condi? She’s warmongering too!
June 4th, 2008 at 1:21 pmthe problem is that we have to round up all the fools tied in and hold them accountable.
June 4th, 2008 at 1:22 pmNAS Whidbey took delivery of the first EA-18G Growlers on June 3rd, The Lincoln (the Growler’s eventual home) has already been deployed to the Gulf, Israel bombes a Syrian ‘nuclear’ facility last year, obtaining valuable intel. on the new Early Warning and Anti-Aircraft Radar signatures given to the Syrians by Iran- exactly the type of intel. the Growler would need to target those sites in Iran.
The boy-king has a new toy and he’s itching to use it…
Sadly, the only thing standing in the way of attacking Iran is the Pentagon, expect that building to start leaking like a firehose as Bush’s insane desire for a THIRD war mounts…
June 4th, 2008 at 1:22 pmSorry TP, this is not news. Olmert are pushing this for months now. Have you heard Obama’s foreign policy speech at the AIPAC meeting today. Diplomacy is back on the table. We have only to hold out some 230 days anymore.
Is it really so bad to say bye, bye to Hillary and welcome a very talented and inspiring politician into your realm of the progressive community?
June 4th, 2008 at 1:23 pmOlmert is pushing – sorry.
June 4th, 2008 at 1:24 pmadd to my previous list:
5. Provide giant tax incentives for “small-businesses” that purchase vehicles over 6000 pounds
June 4th, 2008 at 1:25 pmRogers sez:
he’s been talking about it since naming them an “axis of evil” in his 2002 state of the union.
He’ll look foolish if he doesn’t attack them, after all that.
So we can look forward to a few airstikes on North Korea as well? After all, we’d hate for Bush to look foolish… Jesus.
June 4th, 2008 at 1:25 pmAs blackpoll pointed out, Ohlmert’s domestic troubles make this a no-brainer call for him. No-brainer in a couple of ways.
June 4th, 2008 at 1:25 pmthink progress could help ppl stop the war if they’d think progressively and start fighting for the right to vote like the rest of us modern minded plibocites are.
Id we had the right to vote we could vote to end the war.
in other news Kurt Cobain’s ashes were stolen
June 4th, 2008 at 1:26 pmrogers Says:
He’ll look foolish if he doesn’t attack them, after all that.
June 4th, 2008 at 1:10 pm
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Well if that’s not a justification for war, I don’t know what is.
June 4th, 2008 at 1:28 pmIf Bush goes through with this he’ll be impeached. Also, I’m all for supporting Israel too but I’m in agreement with everyone that if they want it so bad they can do it themselves.
June 4th, 2008 at 1:30 pm.
It’s a good thing that the USA is not a member of the ICC…
IF Howard if found guilty…
What does that make the man who’s orders Howard was following?
Now, if Bush agrees to attack Iran for Israel, who’s the Howard now? Damn, the USA needs to be a member of the ICC…
There is absentia…
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June 4th, 2008 at 1:30 pmIran is taking this very seriously as you can see by following this link. It details the evacuation of many Iranian bases and camps in preparation. http://www.debka.com/headline.php?hid=5313
June 4th, 2008 at 1:30 pmrogers Says:
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he’s been talking about it since naming them an “axis of evil” in his 2002 state of the union.
He’ll look foolish if he doesn’t attack them, after all that.
June 4th, 2008 at 1:10 pm
Which we can’t possibly have , seeing as how stellar he’s looked these last 7 + years ……………
June 4th, 2008 at 1:31 pmsunshineempire Says:
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If Bush goes through with this he’ll be impeached. Also, I’m all for supporting Israel too but I’m in agreement with everyone that if they want it so bad they can do it themselves.
June 4th, 2008 at 1:30 pm
I see absolutely no reason that Israel should be elevated above and beyond all other nations on the planet .
June 4th, 2008 at 1:33 pmi was perplexed with Richard Clark’s CSPAN appearance earlier this week…he said that Hezbollah is the greatest threat to the United States right now, & that Hezbollah is just an extension of the Iranian government.
i like Richard Clark; so it confused me to hear him advocate against Iran (albeit indirectly)
June 4th, 2008 at 1:36 pmliberal traitor Says:
Hey, Olmert, if you want Iran attacked, why don’t you do it yourself you A$$. Use all those billions in military aid we’ve given you, or the jets we sold you, or the nukes that you have (I believe the number is around 150, more than enough to wipe out Iran). DO IT YOURSELVES.
June 4th, 2008 at 1:12 pm
Israel can’t attack Iran themselves – that’s crazy! If they attacked Iran, who would they buy their oil from?
June 4th, 2008 at 1:36 pmrogers Says:
he’s been talking about it since naming them an “axis of evil” in his 2002 state of the union.
He’ll look foolish if he doesn’t attack them, after all that.
And that’s the best criterion for our foreign policy, alright: whether or not it makes Bush look foolish.
June 4th, 2008 at 1:39 pmHe’ll look foolish
Which is different from how he normally looks in what way?
June 4th, 2008 at 1:42 pmThis is the burden that we must bear thanks to the Congress (that includes YOU, Hillary) who gave Bush a blank check to fight any sort of ‘pre-emptive’ war that he and his little buddies want to in order to ‘protect America’s interests’.
June 4th, 2008 at 1:43 pmtrollsbwild Says:
“…The two ot them should be talking about who they are going to hire as their lawyers for upcoming criminal trials.”
June 4th, 2008 at 1:20 pm
I hope that Bush hires Gonzo as his attorney – he’ll be convicted for sure!
June 4th, 2008 at 1:44 pmOlmert and Bush will make GREAT cell-mates at the Hague. With Cheeney and Rice next door..
IF this lunatic is STUPID enough to even entertain this, the CONGRESS should IMMEDIATELY CUT OFF FUNDS – ALL – TO THE MILITARY – PERIOD. NO MORE MONEY – DON’T CARE IF YOU LAY OFF 10 MILLION CONTRACTORS. NO MORE MONEY…..
GO AWAY CHIMPY and WAIT FOR YOUR PLANE TO THE HAGUE….
June 4th, 2008 at 1:44 pmIf Bush goes through with this he will play right into the mullah’s hands.
June 4th, 2008 at 1:49 pmThe invasion of Iraq has been a gift to Iran- Saddam’s gone and they have the U.S. military pinned down in a nice little war next-door while they get used to be THE major player in the Gulf.
An airstrike against Iran (which is really all we could manage at this point) wouldn’t hurt the Iranians too terribly but would cause the hardliners popularity numbers to shoot through the roof! Remember Bush’s numbers after 9/11?
So we look like arrogant imbeciles, furhter de-stabilize an unstable situation, rally the Iranian people around the mullahs, and get little or nothing in return…
Why would we bomb Iran again, oh yeah I forgot- Bush’s honor is at stake!
Damn the torpedoes! Full steam ahead!
We all know bull shit bush has a smaller IQ than dodger roger, hell, it appear’s that the trolls can read atleast..The fact remain’s Israel and our own warmonger’s want their chosen to have nuke’s and no other countries need apply unless one can give them mango’s of course…..Let Israel fight their own battle with Iran, it’s time we stopped being the united state of Israel…..Blessings
June 4th, 2008 at 1:50 pmrogers Says:
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Obama- And the gravest threat to Israel today obviously comes from Iran, that their radical regime continues to pursue the ability to build a nuclear weapon and continues to support terrorism across the region….
The threat of Iran is real and is great. And my goal as president will be to eliminate it……
Make no mistake about it. Our invasion of Iraq has empowered Iran. It is one of the biggest strategic blunders that we have made….
And we should not take our military options off the table…
http://antiwarleague.net/blog/index.php?itemid=66
June 4th, 2008 at 1:49 pm
Bomb………Bomb……….Bomb……….Bomb……..Bomb Iran
That’s much more comforting , isn’t it ?
June 4th, 2008 at 1:55 pm#45 – your link isn’t working.
June 4th, 2008 at 1:56 pmNot worth the paper they’re printed on? Stinking liars. Poppy Bush left his successor a nice little flaming sack of dog poop in the form of Somalia (also troops newly based in Saudi Arabia). It’s a proud BushNazi tradition to crap all over the furniture when they have to leave something good. If Obama is kicking McFloppy’s ass, the royal chimp’s parting gift will be a sea of fire in the middle-east. Start saving the run-up propaganda on your hard drives now for ammunition against the revisionist historians who will try to drop it in Barack’s lap.
June 4th, 2008 at 1:59 pmOMG! No, no to war with Iran. We cannot afford it in money, in lives lost, in loss of respect in the world. We cannot afford it. I think Bush will be very surprised by the public reaction if he chooses to do this.
June 4th, 2008 at 2:01 pmrepublican talking poinits:
the leader must not look foolish…
the leader must not look foolish…
the leader must not look foolish…
(keep repeating until you believe it)
June 4th, 2008 at 2:03 pmThese two freaking criminals are sitting around and planning their next genocide??
WTF???
June 4th, 2008 at 2:03 pmwell, so much for the happy bubble… *pop* …
back to the tears and worry…
…
hey, just heard on the XM news, sounds like a TP worthy story -
June 4th, 2008 at 2:04 pmobama has announced a VP search team, includes caroline kennedy…
Bush is just the sort of childish fool who would strike out at Iran merely to show that he had the ‘will’ to do it. He wouldn’t need a plan or strategy – just do it. Mark my words: there will be rioting in the streets if this loser does the unthinkable by bombing ANOTHER country which did no harm to us. Bush is a child, only a child.
June 4th, 2008 at 2:10 pmkaty Says:
hey, just heard on the XM news, sounds like a TP worthy story -
obama has announced a VP search team, includes caroline kennedy…
WHOA! That would be totally off the wall – - wait a minute, do you mean she is on the search team or she is a candidate? Must be the former.
June 4th, 2008 at 2:10 pmIf the President doesn’t fully support Israel, the Mossad will direct more Arabs to attack the U.S.
June 4th, 2008 at 2:18 pmWhat exactly happens when these zionist maniacs succeed in causing the third world war that they so desperately want, to accelerate the return of Jebus, and nothing happens?
June 4th, 2008 at 2:18 pm#55 – What honor ? bush or cheney have honor ? I think you are thinking of other administrations.
June 4th, 2008 at 2:18 pm#65 you are being way too kind calling bush a child, I have a hard time thinking he is even human.
June 4th, 2008 at 2:20 pmhe’s been talking about it since naming them an “axis of evil” in his 2002 state of the union.
http://query.nytimes.com/ gst/ fullpage.html?res=9D00E5D8113CF931A25751C0A9649C8B63
He’ll look foolish if he doesn’t attack them, after all that. –Rogers
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Let’s see…which was the third country which Bush named as part of the “Axis of Evil”? Oh, that’s right…I remember now.
North Korea.
this would be the same North Korea, would it not, which at least during Bush’s first term in office was giving off clear signals of an active nuclear weapons program?? Possessed existing missile technology (albeit short-range), received nuclear technology from Pakistan in 1997, withdrew from the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty in 2003, kicked the UN inspectors out of the country and dismantled their monitoring equipment not long thereafter, supposedly resumed uranium processing from spent fuel rods, and claims to have completed a successful nuclear test in 2006. Yet we never attacked them — in fact, the multi-lateral talks i which we’ve engaged them (”meeting with the enemy”, anyone?) actually seem to have been effective in persuading them to stand down. Now why did we never attack them, I wonder — or even rattle our saber even half as hard against them as we did against Iraq and have against Iran?
Well, the fact that North Korea doesn’t have that much in terms of any resources that we might want — whereas Iran and Iraq are sitting on two of the world’s five largest proven oil reserves (according to figures from our own government) — might have a teensy bit to do with that. Admittedly, the fact that China is right across the border from North Korea and has been their sometime ally in the past (i.e., the Korean War) might have something to do with it as well. I doubt that China would have taken it all kindly if the US had launched on attack that close to their front porch. China is a country we don’t really want to mess with right now — and especially not in light of the fact that we’re borrowing money from them to pay for the War In Iraq.
Sorry, Rogers…TRY. AGAIN. You keep pitching ‘em, and I keep hitting ‘em!
June 4th, 2008 at 2:20 pmGood job Bluestockings, Thank’s for hitting……Blessings
June 4th, 2008 at 2:26 pm#65 I wonder if there would be rioting ? So many Americans are ok with another invasion as long as it doesn’t involve their family or their living standards. I have lost my faith that the American public care about other people’s lives. At least in the 60’s people got angry with the corrupt Nixon government. Where is the anger now ?
June 4th, 2008 at 2:29 pmlarkohio Says:
OMG! No, no to war with Iran. We cannot afford it in money, in lives lost, in loss of respect in the world. We cannot afford it. I think Bush will be very surprised by the public reaction if he chooses to do this.
June 4th, 2008 at 2:31 pmJune 4th, 2008 at 2:01 pm
I agree. The problem is, that with NO ONE in his family standing in danger, millions of dollars in the bank, and a demonstrated psychopathic character structure, chimpy couldn’t care less what ordinary Americans can and can’t afford. We are, after all, the rabble to blind to comprehend the glory of policies. This is the family that thought Hitler was pretty good people.
Whoops; TOO blind.
June 4th, 2008 at 2:32 pmSure if you Americans want your president to be popular and the cool guy and want the World community to think “Oh man what wonderful sounding fellow he is.” Bush could choose not to bomb Iran. That would make him popular
But president Bush is not that kind of guy. He is a moron of strong convictions and he will never listen to reason or congress or the American people or the World community, only to Israel
June 4th, 2008 at 2:36 pmOneCrankyDem Says : Iran is taking this very seriously as you can see by following this link. It details the evacuation of many Iranian bases and camps in preparation. http://www.debka.com/headline.php?hid=5313
– PLEASE don’t believe ANYTHING you see in DEBKAfile, even when the links DO work. It is a disinfo sheet run by Israeli Military Intelligence.
June 4th, 2008 at 2:42 pmI don’t know how many Irani casualties there would be but I can damn sure know that George WTF Bush should be the first American casualty with Dick (not because his front name is Richard) Chehey should be next.
June 4th, 2008 at 2:43 pmMcClelland commented that this administration thinks the Constituition does not apply to them. If the Powers That Be would get a backbone and start proceedings against these criminals maybe then, they would understand they are not above the law of our land.
June 4th, 2008 at 2:45 pmWhite House Meeting Today, Olmert Will Urge Bush To Attack Iran AND DESTROY THE WORLD.
And Bush says, “That’s hard work, hehe, hehe.”
June 4th, 2008 at 2:45 pmWell, with Dictator Bush being the War Monger he is, I doubt it will take much to convince him. This will fit right into his Global Domination efforts!
JT
June 4th, 2008 at 2:49 pmWhen your Serious about Online Privacy
I just finished reading “The Road” by Cormac McCharty (sp?) and I so did not need to see a story like this. I wish the survivors of the apocolypse well…
June 4th, 2008 at 2:50 pmtexaslady Says:
#65 I wonder if there would be rioting ? So many Americans are ok with another invasion as long as it doesn’t involve their family or their living standards. I have lost my faith that the American public care about other people’s lives. At least in the 60’s people got angry with the corrupt Nixon government. Where is the anger now ?
You have a point, but I think the American public is truly fed up being lied to, especially about things such as war. You are correct that most Americans can name the emcee on American Idol quicker than they can identfy the Sec of Defense (Gates) or Dir. of the CIA (Komrade Hayden), but I stil believe they have their fill of the neocon con-job.
I am hoping I am correct in this thinking.
June 4th, 2008 at 2:54 pmBush cares not what is good for America or his reputation. He answers to a different Father, hasn’t he said?
Deluded fck.
What is a proper response to a maniac at the wheel? If Congress won’t shackle the bastard by impeachment, how can we stop him from doing what he thinks will clear the way for Jesus’ return?
Soory Tina, we Do need another hero.
June 4th, 2008 at 2:58 pmOlmert = Chalabi
June 4th, 2008 at 2:59 pmStratRat – I hope you are right too, don’t mind being wrong on this one.
June 4th, 2008 at 3:03 pmSo many consider bush stupid or being used by cheney, but after hearing he declassified info on Plame to cover his own tracks I think he knows exactly what he is doing.
June 4th, 2008 at 3:05 pmVideo: New Jewish group aims to win US hearts and minds – 04 Jun 08 AlJazeeraEnglish
i’m trying to find out if this is the group that sam seder interviewed on his show some weeks ago…
not a bad idea though, peace…
June 4th, 2008 at 3:07 pmkeltoi – sorry, i was elsewhere… she is on the TEAM…
i REALLY like the idea that he put this info out there…
June 4th, 2008 at 3:10 pmit is his victory to decide how/what he wants and shouldn’t be
pushed into ANYthing…
Here is a quote from Ahmindinjad earlier:
“Whoever wins the elections, I’m sure that the United States will change, it will have a different approach,” the Iranian leader told the Italian daily La Repubblica.
“The United States will have a reduced sphere of influence in the world,” he predicted, adding: “The new president will have to respond to the real demands of the American people: 40 million American citizens do not have health insurance, the victims of the New Orleans hurricane still have no homes.”
I am always amused when foreign leaders say things like “40 million Americans do not have health insurance” as if he gives a damn or his people actually DO have health insurance, or freedom of speech, or political rights, you name it. Kinda like there are no gay people in Iran.
June 4th, 2008 at 3:13 pmkaty Says:
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keltoi – sorry, i was elsewhere… she is on the TEAM…
i REALLY like the idea that he put this info out there…
it is his victory to decide how/what he wants and shouldn’t be
pushed into ANYthing…
Well, the other good sign in this is I really doubt Caroline is going to recommend a reptile like Hillary for VP. All the things that moved her to endorse Obama would block her from recommending Hillary for the ticket, I would think. She is a true idealist, the antithesis of the Clintons.
June 4th, 2008 at 3:15 pmKeltoi,
June 4th, 2008 at 3:18 pm…and that has to do with Israel requesting the United States to bomb the living hell out of Iran, why?
Great, 500 bbl oil.
June 4th, 2008 at 3:19 pmDRxJ Says:
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Keltoi,
…and that has to do with Israel requesting the United States to bomb the living hell out of Iran, why?
Oh, it doesn’t, particularly, I am not trying to be especially Trollish, there was just a fairly long talk on a thread yesterday about who Al-Maliki would prefer as the next President and we were talking about how hard it was to see through to the truth of their politics. Comments like Achmadidnjad’s just reveal they don’t understand us very well, either.
June 4th, 2008 at 3:22 pmI was going to make a coment, but I can see people here (the majority has common sense). I liked very much the coment on cell mates, Bush and Olmert and Rice next door!!!!
June 4th, 2008 at 3:33 pmWe can tell Bush he can bomb Iran if, and only if he can name 3 Middle East Presidents names, 3 European presidents names and 3 South American presidents names (Uribe does not count). Then we would be safe!
Keltoi what is the difference between Achmadidnajad and bush/cheney ? They both sell out their people for selfish means, they use any tool to maintain their power, ie. religion. At least Achie is honest about his corruptness while bushie pretends to you and his dwindling supporters he has your best interests at heart. As to comparing Hillary to a reptile she is still better than bushie/cheney,rice, well the list could go on and on.
June 4th, 2008 at 3:40 pmIn other news, Bush decides the big red button in his office would make for a nice place to set his drink.
June 4th, 2008 at 3:41 pmyes, that was the group that sam was talking to/about…
her is one link, from his blog:
J Street Project: Doves launch AIPAC alternative
Author: Ami Eden
Thursday
Mar 27,2008
James Besser reports in the New York Jewish Week about the launch of a new political action committee aimed at supporting dovish congressional candidates — and, in Britain’s Prospect magazine, Gershom Gorenberg says that’s a good thing.
June 4th, 2008 at 3:52 pm[...]
http://blogs.jta.org/telegraph/2008/03/27/244/
ahhh…
#50 4-27-08: Bill Scher….Panel.. Atrios, Christy Harvey from CAP then David Bender of the Rachel Maddow Show on the primary. Third hour: A representative of J-Street the political arm of the pro-Israel, pro-peace movement.
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[ Links to past Seder On Sundays shows ]
June 4th, 2008 at 4:22 pmInteresting piece from Iraq Veterans Against War…a 50% increase in members…mostly from active duty soldiers since March Winter in Maryland. What if bushie held a war and no one came ?
June 4th, 2008 at 4:38 pmWonder if any investigative journalists has the backbone to ask bushie if he knows how many kids have died for his war today ? About 4090 people who are loved, people that believed.
June 4th, 2008 at 4:41 pmKeltoi – IMO, the remarks from Ahmadinejhad that you posted show that he’s very astute.
Just because he’s a hardline Islamist doesn’t mean he’s stupid. He isn’t.
He’s walking a very delicate line between the rabid mullahs, the secular Iranians, the new Iraq, and the warmongering eejit at the helm of America who keeps threatening to wipe IRAN off the map.
Doing it pretty well, too, from what I can tell.
Simplistic black-and-white crap is for Republicans.
Oh – you *are* a Republican. Ooops. My bad.
June 4th, 2008 at 4:41 pmLast night I attended a Nation Institute event True Crimes: the Untold Story behind the Devastation of Iraq moderated by Seymour Hersh. Hedges, Al-Arian and Scahill were all very articulate about the realities of this war and the privatization of the military. After several questions from the audience about these topics, the audience became restless and started to call out for addressing the plans to bomb Iran.
Hersh did not want to go there, siting professional obligations regarding upcoming work, but he was pushed by the audience. He spoke of the present Israeli administration and the talks with Syria (moderated by Turkey?). Essentially, he said that by separating “Syria from the herd”, this would create a Sunni v Shia dynamic that would set up the scenario for the attack. He was reticent about scooping himself but his profound body language spoke volumes to those of us who have observed him even casually over the years. What he did say was:
“No Four Star General can stop Cheney”
The attack may come at a time when it is most useful to boost McCain’s faltering candidacy.
“This administration will be lethal until 11:59 (am) on January 20th”
And with his head in his hand, he said (paraphrase), “Never in the history of our country have we faced anything like this. Never.”
I can tell you there was a series of “holy shit” moments for the several hundred people in the audience. It felt like a bullet we thought we’d dodged did a u-turn in mid-air and is now headed back at us.
June 4th, 2008 at 4:46 pmMr. Hersch is to be deeply respected and has been correct many times. Where is the sanity among anyone in this White House ?
June 4th, 2008 at 4:50 pmAgain holding a war for political gains, no thought for the pain inflicted on innocent people. Is there no bottom to this administration’s corruptness ?
June 4th, 2008 at 4:56 pmLeftside Annie Says:
Simplistic black-and-white crap is for Republicans.
Oh – you *are* a Republican. Ooops. My bad.
Meanie.
What kind of a Republican would buy and read a book by Naomi Wolfe entitled The End of America that was recommended to him by someone whose appellative was “Leftside” that he met on the blog for the Center for American Progress, hmmmm?
And I disagree with your assessment of Achies grasp on our politics. He gets a headline, he spouts it out…it actually reminded me a lot of the Al Qaeda tape where they referenced the housing market. Just rings hollow.
I never said the man was stupid, but trying to insert himself in our politics in anyway certainly is. He wants Obama to win, to the extent he makes that known he hurts Obama. I am sure O would want him to shush.
June 4th, 2008 at 5:30 pmJSTreet is pro-peace to a certain extent, it’s true, but it’s still pretty muscular. some people exaggerate the degree of real opposition to AIPAC that exists in the US Jewish organisations. Americans for Peace Now, for instance, still have a representative on AIPAC’s executive committee:
June 5th, 2008 at 12:19 amhttp://niqnaq.wordpress.com/2008/06/04/peace-now-are-hypocrites-too/
The Israelis won’t give up the evil Zionist dream? This weaken their neighbor crap to make room for Greater Israel is really getting old. Religion causes war in this case, a terrible misunderstanding of religion. I pray Bush has some common sense in his monkey brain left.
June 5th, 2008 at 12:41 amctalk Says:
“…I pray Bush has some common sense in his monkey brain left.”
June 5th, 2008 at 12:41 am
Yeah, good luck with that prayer. :(
June 5th, 2008 at 12:44 amIt’s sad and dangerous that thugs run both the United States and Israel. I remember the good old days when we were the good guys. Leastwise, the United States. Now the Zionists have dragged our leaders into their psychotic mind-think.
June 5th, 2008 at 2:26 am