Rohrabacher: Torture At Guantanamo Simply ‘Hazing Pranks From Some Fraternity’
Rohrabacher: Torture At Guantanamo Simply ‘Hazing Pranks From Some Fraternity’
Today, the House Subcommittee on International Organizations, Human Rights, and Oversight held a hearing on detainee treatment at Guantanamo Bay, focusing on a recent FBI inspector general (IG) report documenting abusive practices at the facility. The report describes, among other things, a “war crimes file” created by FBI agents concerned about the interrogation tactics they witnessed at Guantanamo.
Rep. Dana Rohrabacher (R-CA), however, sees nothing wrong with the accounts of abuse. While questioning IG Glenn Fine today, Rohrabacher insisted the report documented nothing more than “fraternity boy pranks and hazing pranks,” and hardly constituted torture:
ROHRABACHER: They seem like more like pranks, hazing pranks from some fraternity than some well-thought-out policy of how do you torture someone and get information from them. [...]
I will have to tell you, when most people hear the word “torture,” which has been bandied around here, I don’t believe that they think of it as holding a growling dog near somebody but not the growling dog — you know, it’s one thing to have the growling dog eating someone’s leg or arm versus — which is absolute torture. It’s another thing to have a growling dog around, or putting panties on someone’s head, or discussing — telling him he had repressed homosexual tendencies in his presence. I mean, I’m sorry, these are acts of humiliation.
Watch a compilation of Rohrabacher’s outrageous claims:
Rohrabacher is right to call these “acts of humiliation.” Of course, the Geneva Conventions specifically outlaw “outrages upon personal dignity, in particular, humiliating or degrading treatment.”
Rohrabacher mocked the FBI for taking what he called a “holier than thou” stance against harsh interrogations. Yet Fine repeatedly reminded Rohrabacher that the FBI found the interrogations not only abusive, but also “in their view, ineffective.” Rohrabacher admitted, “I don’t know what’s effective and what’s not,” but continued to insist the documented instances of abuse were “fraternity boy pranks and hazing pranks” that “certainly don’t fit into the category of torture.”
Rohrabacher joins a long list of right-wing torture apologists who refuse to heed the words even of Gen. David Petraeus, who unequivocally rejected torture as producing information of only “questionable value.”
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Transcript:
ROHRABACHER: You’re suggesting that the behavior of, what, panties on his head in order to try to, you know, confuse him and to pressure him, that is unacceptable interrogation technique for a man who was involved in a conspiracy to kill tens of thousands of Americans?
FINE: What we are saying is what were reported by the FBI, a number of concerns about that, not simply putting panties on his head, but the course of interrogation was both abusive and, in their view, ineffective.
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ROHRABACHER: We were humiliating him. There was humiliating tactics on the part of the interrogator, right?
FINE: They were what the FBI and others considered abusive tactics that were ineffective.
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ROHRABACHER: Because many of the things that you are suggesting here were just so unacceptable by this man who was conspiring to kill tens of thousands of American civilians, they seem like more like pranks, hazing pranks from some fraternity than some well-thought-out policy of how do you torture someone and get information from them.
I mean, OK, telling — describing his mother and sister as whores, that’s certainly not a nice thing to do.
I will have to tell you, when most people hear the word “torture,” which has been bandied around here, I don’t believe that they think of it as holding a growling dog near somebody but not the growling dog — you know, it’s one thing to have the growling dog eating someone’s leg or arm versus — which is absolute torture. It’s another thing to have a growling dog around, or putting panties on someone’s head, or discussing — telling him he had repressed homosexual tendencies in his presence.
I mean, I’m sorry, these are acts of humiliation.
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ROHRABACHER: OK. So when we’re talking about this position that the FBI, this moral stand that the FBI took on this, it was basically to say that a man who might have information that could lead us to prevent an attack that would cost the lives of tens of thousands of Americans, that we should not — we should never think that it was acceptable to put panties on his head or try to humiliate him verbally in order to break his will? That’s not an acceptable interrogation even if it’s going to save the lives of all these other people in the end?
FINE: Congressman Rohrabacher, what the FBI said that they objected to, for a variety of reasons, one, it was not effective in obtaining intelligence. The FBI had a longstanding ability and skills in obtaining intelligence from people who didn’t want to give it to them, whether it was domestic or Al Qaida.
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ROHRABACHER: Right. Except — except when it came down to putting panties on the head of some guy who was actually engaged in the conspiracy to kill all these Americans, the FBI again decided that they were holier than thou.
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Orville Redenbacher’s retarded son making more insane statements……..Lovely
June 4th, 2008 at 3:41 pmAnd when would Dana be signing up for this fraternity to experience this fun hazing. There is no end to the garbage a loyal republican will spit out.
June 4th, 2008 at 3:42 pmI pray God these monsters get what is coming to them and soon enough that I live to see it.
June 4th, 2008 at 3:43 pmYeah man, I was waterboarded my freshman year. My roommate had a car battery hooked up to his testicles. All in good fun.
June 4th, 2008 at 3:50 pmThis guy would NEVER have been accepted into my college fraternity as a pledge.
June 4th, 2008 at 3:50 pmI see even the trolls are staying away from this one.
June 4th, 2008 at 3:51 pmI say someone should call Harbor Junior College and California State University which Rohrabacher attended , and ask them if they ever waterboarded pledges and called them “hazing pranks”…………
June 4th, 2008 at 3:53 pmNotice how the GOP cannot read? The Geneva Conventions forbid the ‘acts of humiliation’ the Rep was saying was ok by him. So, do we have a nation of laws or don’t we? How can the GOP say that the humiliation is harmless, when our law indicates it is a crime to engage in the process of humiliation?
The laws of this country were not written in crayon or pencil. They are the law of the land until overturned or otherwise changed by legislative process. Why is following the law so tough for the ‘law and order’ party?
June 4th, 2008 at 3:53 pmI cant wait until one of Rohrabachers ( and those that agree with him) relatives are captured and “hazed” (I dont know how they’ll be captured since NONE will EVER serve a day in Iraq, but it would be nice).
Idiot
RIP
June 4th, 2008 at 3:54 pmSGT Stephen R. Sherman
C CO 1-5 IN (STRYKER)
KIA 3 Feb 2005
Mosul, Iraq
If these clowns are so serious abou preventing terrorist attacks then why all the horsing around with frat pranks?
-GSD
June 4th, 2008 at 3:57 pmI used to live in California, and it amazes me there is someone of that odious nature even given the light of day, much less a job as a US Representative. What were his constituents thinking? And will they vote him out after this particularly hideous display?
June 4th, 2008 at 3:57 pmThe GOP believes the Geneva Convention is the Swiss ski team lobby…..
June 4th, 2008 at 3:57 pmBut let’s get real. The poor schmo was kicked to the curb as a little kid by his peers, and now wants to see vicarious ‘justice’ against all those meanies.
June 4th, 2008 at 3:59 pmrepublicans hate facts Says:
StratRat – the problem is that the GOP believe the Geneva Convention is something only OTHER countries have to adhere to… It’s more of that ‘privileged’ ‘above the law’ attitude that Bush is so famous for…
Understood…I wonder how many ‘citizens’ know that when a treaty is signed and executed, it becomes the law of the land. It cannot be changed because the chimp in chief doesn’t like it. I guess laws are for Dems to worry about, huh?
June 4th, 2008 at 4:00 pmThis is just sickening. What attacks that were going to kill tens of thousands of Americans? But then Rorabacher also agrees that it is alright if we accidentally pick up innocents, rendition them and use aggressive (to include humiliation) as long as we get the bad guys as well. Just collateral damage. He gave no indication as to the number of innocents renditioned and tortured would be acceptable as collateral damage.
June 4th, 2008 at 4:01 pmI used to live in California, and it amazes me there is someone of that odious nature even given the light of day, much less a job as a US Representative. What were his constituents thinking? And will they vote him out after this particularly hideous display?
UUHH
Ah-nold
Nuff said
RIP
June 4th, 2008 at 4:02 pmSGT Stephen R. Sherman
C CO 1-5 IN (STRYKER)
KIA 3 Feb 2005
Mosul, Iraq
Last I checked Hazing was illegal at most schools!
June 4th, 2008 at 4:03 pmSo, since it’s like a fraternity, do the prisoners get to do kegstands later before they put GHB in some high school girl’s drink?
June 4th, 2008 at 4:04 pmI was in a non-academic, “social” Fraternity. The worst hazing was getting yelled at, and some guy poured a bucket of nasty rotten food on about 4 of us pledges during hell week.
June 4th, 2008 at 4:08 pmJust another disgusting Republican idiot.
June 4th, 2008 at 4:10 pmRepublicans are very afraid of the boogie man, and feel its in line with God to “reinterpret” or “augment” the way the Geneva Conventions are viewed. They also feel the “war on terra” is a “differnt kind of war” and the Geneva conventions don’t apply here. Problem is, when you allow the military industrial complex and thugs to run things, they are always going to need “evil doers” to go after. Who will be next? You?
June 4th, 2008 at 4:13 pmRohrabacher was known for having a little bit of a gas problem in his frat house. Always had the same excuse, “Dinasaurs did it too!”
June 4th, 2008 at 4:13 pmAs it may be, every fraternity and sorority in the country has come out against Hazing. Most universities will remove a fraternity’s charter and expel members from school if hazing is found to of occurred.
June 4th, 2008 at 4:14 pmLessee, it doesn’t produce reliable results, it’s against international law, but doofi like RoaringBack like it because….it get’s them up, despite their ED?
June 4th, 2008 at 4:16 pmI REALLY hope that the good people in his District remember this and the other stupid things he has said come November.
He may just be one more (sh!t) brick on the load of the Repug Defeatmobile.
June 4th, 2008 at 4:18 pmomg, I happened to be deathly afraid of the sound of a dog’s growl. My family had a pit bull puppy when I was ten and we gave the dog away because when he got a little older he started growling at me in a weird scary way and I became extremely afraid and fearful for me life. Ever since then, I cannot hear a dog growl because my first response is fear and that will get them to want to attack. for me, this is torturous.
I also know of someone who had one since it was a puppy and one day it started growling that way and she ran and hid in her closet but the dog got to her and bit part of her ear off.
my whole point is that if it is your deepest fear it can be used as torture also. hasn’t anyone seen that show fear factor? If, for example, I was buried to my neck in cockraches, I can assure you, someone would have to call EMS because I would be having a massive heart attack. People have heart attacks from stress and fear all the time!!!
June 4th, 2008 at 4:28 pman enemy would seek to know its prisoner’s fear, duh!
June 4th, 2008 at 4:29 pmoops, I meant cockroaches… yuk
June 4th, 2008 at 4:30 pmso..so…so…tired of this “fraternity pranks” meme…
yes, its true..the main difference here being this silly little thing called “consent”.. trivial, I know, but theres this little sticking point that perphaps most people arent as willing to lay in a giant pile of feces smeared naked men as fratboys and other republican types are..
i mean, why are people getting all worked up about “gang rape”…
June 4th, 2008 at 4:30 pmgang rape is just like consensual group sex, except for
this silly little concept called “consent”, right mr Mr.Rohrshack..?
How utterly Xian of you, Daryll, to condone torture done in the name of the American people. Please take your false religion and shove it up your rectalia.
June 4th, 2008 at 4:32 pmTired of Fighting Says:
RIP
SGT Stephen R. Sherman
C CO 1-5 IN (STRYKER)
KIA 3 Feb 2005
Mosul, Iraq
I am sorry for this loss.
June 4th, 2008 at 4:33 pmTaking the name of a dead soldier is about as low as a human being can get.
June 4th, 2008 at 4:34 pmIt’s not like they are dying from these acts. Also, while at Oral Roberts, I never wanted to join a fraternity. I played a part in the Youth For Christ Chapter, though. I figured that I did not need a fraternity because I was already granted approval into another fraternity (holy people).
That answers a lot. So Daryll, how did that City of Faith turn out? Last I heard, they’d designed and built a hospital, with no internal oxygen system!
June 4th, 2008 at 4:39 pmDid they think oxygen was just going to magically appear?
1) Please tell me this man is up for re-election in November and that he’s not secure in his position until 2010 or 2012.
2) Using a dead soldiers name is about as low as you can go.
June 4th, 2008 at 4:41 pmiGGY, all reps are up every two years, yo!
June 4th, 2008 at 4:43 pmI’d quickly call you a piece of shit, Trajan, but that would be an insult to gold.
June 4th, 2008 at 4:46 pm> I figured that I did not need a fraternity
> because I was already granted approval
> into another fraternity (holy people).
And one that lets you have gay sex with children, also! Boy, a double treat for you , huh daryll..
June 4th, 2008 at 4:46 pmoh, and another thing…
June 4th, 2008 at 4:47 pmwho the hell gives anyone the right to humiliate anyone?
is that what they get paid to do?
I seriously doubt that is in their job description
If they had these demeaning tendencies, what the he are they doing in that position?
this kind of task requires someone with integrity and a good psychological status.
Why would the military put frat boys in charge of detainees anyway??!!???
GeeDubs Says:
I used to live in California, and it amazes me there is someone of that odious nature even given the light of day, much less a job as a US Representative. What were his constituents thinking? And will they vote him out after this particularly hideous display?
GeeDubs – I live in Los Angeles, and I have to tell ya: those people down south in Orange and San Diego county are really backwards (read that mostly white, rich and Repuke); they’re our state embarrassment.
June 4th, 2008 at 4:47 pmIts official, we have crazy people in government. We need to start giving psychological tests to elected servants.
June 4th, 2008 at 4:47 pmIs that what we wish for our soldiers if they were captured? would that make it justified?
June 4th, 2008 at 4:48 pmdid you just say trajan?? omg twajie300 dares to put his .2 cents in?
June 4th, 2008 at 4:52 pmDaryll Says:
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Also, while at Oral Roberts
June 4th, 2008 at 4:30 pm
More like you were giving Robert some oral……….
June 4th, 2008 at 4:53 pmSGT Stephen R. Sherman Says:
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ninique,
It happened with some of my buddies in Iraq. They were captured and beheaded. We need to be nicer so they will not do it anymore. It’s our fault that they do their terror acts.
June 4th, 2008 at 4:50 pm
Acting in a similar manner removes any claim(s) of being morally righteous , dipshit…………..
June 4th, 2008 at 4:54 pmI trust TP will be doing a cleanup on the fake Sgt. sicko, very soon.
June 4th, 2008 at 4:55 pmSo Trajan, your buddies are in Iraq while you keep the home fires burning?
June 4th, 2008 at 4:55 pmLooks like Rohrabacher was a member of the famous fraternity Smegma Pie
June 4th, 2008 at 4:56 pmSGT Stephen R. Sherman Says:
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Tired of Fighting,
Stop using my name. Let me rest and leave me out of your political discussions. Stop using me as a crutch. This is my last message to you.
Goodbye.
June 4th, 2008 at 4:55 pm
Yeah , because the Chimpy administration would never stoop so low as to use any soldier to further their agenda ; even an ex-NFL safety , right shitstick ?
June 4th, 2008 at 4:57 pmohhh…
June 4th, 2008 at 4:58 pmlet ‘em have it! I’ll make the popcorn.. oh, this is my favorite part!
June 4th, 2008 at 5:01 pmDaryll Says:
It’s not like they are dying from these acts.
June 4th, 2008 at 4:30 pm
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You, sir, are no Christian.
June 4th, 2008 at 5:14 pmhey, toasterhead, can you please do something to distract your
June 4th, 2008 at 5:16 pm#1 fan? he’s infesting the site with his filth.
You will stop coming here when TP throws you out, you sick imposter. You don’t determine the duration of your stay.
You post, we’ll flag. Admin will take notice.
June 4th, 2008 at 5:17 pmExcuse me, but why don’t you two idiot trolls (SGT Stephen R. Sherman and libforequity) get a room?
Idiots. Both of you.
June 4th, 2008 at 5:21 pmTHIS LEVEL OF STUPID IS P. FLAG HIM.
June 4th, 2008 at 5:25 pmtrajan, knock it off, you ass!
June 4th, 2008 at 5:25 pmLet’s see what he thinks when the same thing is done to Americans and US soldiers.
June 4th, 2008 at 5:25 pmKick ass! he quotes the president as saying. “If somebody tries to stop the march to democracy, we will seek them out and kill them!”
Just how many have they tortured to DEATH in their prisons?
Much more than anyone realizes.
June 4th, 2008 at 5:26 pmyeah, I wonder if it stopped the March to Democracy
June 4th, 2008 at 5:27 pmDESPICABLE PIECE OF CRAP TROLL. NO WONDER YOU’RE A REPUBLICAN.
June 4th, 2008 at 5:29 pmAND LIBFOREQUITY MUST BE CT. THE TWO NAUSEATING CIRCLE JERKS.
June 4th, 2008 at 5:31 pm
June 4th, 2008 at 5:32 pmLIAR!
NOBODY IS AFRAID OF YOU P YOU FAT PIECE OF CRAP.
June 4th, 2008 at 5:33 pmWhat I see LIB is you engaging the lowest kind of troll around here who has stolen the name of a dead soldier that has been respected for a year by his fellow soldier around here. Either the name stealer to shut up or engage him somewhere else.
June 4th, 2008 at 5:38 pm(Stephen and Ib4stupidity . . dump the BS – it’s boring, juvenile and makes any post position you take sound like most troll wankers.)
As for Gitmo – anytime anyone wants to volunteer to get hazed to stay and join that “Fraternity” there, more power to them, just turn in your “Young Republican Club” jacket and rush on down to the Recruiters and ask for Terry Ista, Assignment Clerk for Gitmo . . .
June 4th, 2008 at 5:40 pmDon’t sass me? Are you my freakin’ mother sh*tstain. Take your false concern libforequity and shove it.
June 4th, 2008 at 5:43 pmPerhaps Jess we need to send fake Stephie and his b*tt buddy there so they can get back to us with an honest evaluation of the hazing.
June 4th, 2008 at 5:45 pmNice way to disrespect our troops you worthless piece of crap.
June 4th, 2008 at 5:46 pmLet’s send Rohrbacher to the University of Abu Grhaib.
June 4th, 2008 at 6:02 pmI am very sad that this was the only thing picked up by TP –right out of the gate one of the Iraqi parliamentarians asked to be called an Iraqi without his religious affiliation always mentioned. Looks like we, in the land of the free, are the only ones hung up on this. When asked if they wished if we never went into Iraq, the Sheikh responded that he wished we never went in. He added that yes, we killed one evil man and brought in many more who were even worse. There was just so much more that could have been put out there.
June 4th, 2008 at 6:13 pmI’m Back.
This was tried on me a few months ago by Mr.Pee and some other trolls. It didn’t work then and it wont work now. I will FOREVER honor MY SOLDIER by remembering him in EVERYTHING I DO, no matter what it is. the fact that I have served for 22 years (Army) and have put my life on the line countless times is just too much for some who have NEVER had the courage and the will to do so.
So they use tactics which I can only describe as dis-honorable. If you really want to talk to me and take a certain “tone” with me, you would meet at the Fort Lewis Museum in front of the 1st BDE 25th Ind Div fallen Soldier’s Monument, and then you can see me and the names all who fell in Iraq.
SGT Sherman WAS and WILL ALWAY’S BE MY SOLDIER. His Mother, Father, and Sister were present when the Monument was revealed and my Wife and I along with my Daughter (Air Force) escorted them and sponsored them during their entire time here, and we became close and now call ourselves FAMILY.
So the cheap and downright callous attacks by some here are really quite expected, because you see, when you have done nothing in defense of your country and others have you feel “short” and you compensate by attacking those who have.
So have your fun, claim that I havent done this or that (my DD214 says otherwise, and you might be impressed if you ever had the pleasure to read it), and continue to mock my Soldier, knowing full well that we will never meet and you will never pay for your words, at least you hope you dont.
Its something to have to listen to those who have not lost or sacrificed anything in this war. Those who blindly follow those who talk their talk. Well come walk mine and my former Soldier’s (all 117 of them) walk and see if you could make it, and if one of them should fall how would you take it.
You would take it like me and honor him/her just like I do by NEVER FORGETTING, no matter what some idiot had to say.
RIP
June 4th, 2008 at 6:32 pmSGT Stephen R. Sherman
C CO 1-5 IN (STRYKER)
KIA 3 Feb 2005
Mosul, Iraq
Sometimes i think there is a God.
We endure a terrorist attack on the World Trade Center in 1993.
We play by the rules, work with the nations of the world, and we find the perpetrators (including their leader overseas in a Muslim country), bring them to justice, give them all the legal protections in our judicial system, and convict them and send them to prison.
We get attacked in Oklahoma City–we play by the rules, we find the perpetrator, give him every legal protection, find him guilty, and execute him.
Justice is served. WE win.
We are attacked on Sept. 11, 2001. We (led by Republicans this time) decide we can’t afford to play by the rules. We have to violate the Bill of Rights and the Geneva Conventions, lock people away in Chekist brigs, invade other countries preemptively in the grand tradition of the Divine Emperor of Japan and the Reichskanzler of Germany, spy illegally on our own citizens, torture our prisoners, and bring the full force of the largest war machine in the world on a small country.
June 4th, 2008 at 6:47 pmAnd our army is broken and at the edge of collapse, we lose the wars we initiated, and the person responsible for the attack is still at large and issuing mocking public statements.
We throw away all our principles, arguing we’ll lose if we play by the rules, and what happens?
We lose.
Over and over and over in the Bible the point is made: abandon the Law and you lose. Your riches will vanish, your armies crumble if you act without law, honor and justice.
It’s times like these that make me think there’s something to that book after all.
Wow! Our pet troll certainly has lowered the bar. I sure think that trolls, much like Rep. Rohrabacher, would benefit from a stay in the custody of “enemy combatants”. Perhaps they would learn why ALL prisoners MUST be humanely treated at ALL times.
We didn’t sign the Geneva, and other, Accords to protect our enemies. International treaties exist to protect our citizens who are held by a foreign power whether legit or not. No one can even guess how many thousands of American citizens have been spared torture, humiliation, starvation and death, because of our once sterling reputation earned by a standing tradition of treating prisoners with honor and respect.
That’s gone. The whole world knows, beyond the need of a show trial, that the Government of The United States of America ordered the systematic coercion, including by means of torture, of prisoners. And the blood of the next American tortured to death, and countless more for generations to come, will be on the hands of the criminals who pissed away the good will of the entire planet. If you believe in God, pray that our great grandchildren are forgiven the crimes of Bushco though it may prove more than we deserve.
June 4th, 2008 at 6:57 pmDana (isn’t that a girls name)Rohrabacher never served a minute in the military during the Vietnam War Era, stayed in college!
June 4th, 2008 at 7:03 pmGreat post Tired of Fighting and thank you for your service. The regulars here all know you’re real just like many of the other progressive posters here. It’s these worthless trolls who have never contributed to anything in their lives collecting their troll fee and welfare that came up with the bogus attack.
June 4th, 2008 at 7:13 pmHmm. What an odd thing to be awaiting moderation. Let’s try this.
There’s a certain right-leaning radio host who is contending that Rep. Rohrabacher is “defending the integrity of the U.S. Armed Services”. What a pile of crud.
The way to defend the integrity of the U.S. Armed Services is to charge, try, and convict the guilty parties, all the way to the top. If prisoner abuse were pursued Rummy, if not the Dick or the Chimp, would end up in prison.
June 4th, 2008 at 7:21 pm“fraternity boy pranks and hazing pranks”
The one minor difference being that frat boys would be kicked out of school and sent to jail, whereas these guys…
“these are acts of humiliation”, not torture.
Oh how silly of us to confuse the two. Since you put it that way I guess it’s ok then. Run along now you little scamp.
June 4th, 2008 at 7:21 pmThank You Shayne :
As well as all of you who have defended me in my abscence, I truly appreciate your convictions and your willingness to confront BS.
Again Thank You
RIP
June 4th, 2008 at 7:37 pmSGT Stephen R. Sherman
C CO 1-5 In (STRYKER)
KIA 3 feb 2005
Mosul, Iraq
Dana’s just angry about the hazing he had to go through in order to hang out with the Taliban:
http://www.ocweekly.com/features/features/rogue-statesman/21591/
June 4th, 2008 at 7:48 pmI think these people are confusing the bdsm that they do for fun with their gay tops with actual real torture that dehumanizes and drives people insane and that lasts day after day after day for years.
June 4th, 2008 at 8:16 pmRohrabacher has a Challenger.
Debbie Cook, Mayor of Huntington Beach.
Please support her in her efforts to unseat Dana Rohrabacher.
Debbie Cook for Congress
June 4th, 2008 at 8:38 pmDana Rohrabacher has always been in idiot, seems like he at least is consistent in that.
June 4th, 2008 at 9:00 pmMy please Tired of Fighting.
June 4th, 2008 at 10:48 pmRep. Dana Rohrabacher should be fraternitly WATERBOARDED, black hooded, have his sleep fraternitly deprived and placed in a very fratenal way in shackles in stress position. Ah… wearing a very fraternal orange suit. USA style!
June 4th, 2008 at 11:16 pmIs Mr. Rohrabacher aware of the fact that most Americans consider him a pathetic gasbag?
June 5th, 2008 at 1:29 am.
So California, does Dana Rohrabacher faithfully represent your views… or his?
REALLY?
.
June 5th, 2008 at 4:04 amSort of takes the term ‘asshat’ to a whole new level…
June 5th, 2008 at 9:54 amBush should be in there providing the keg.
June 5th, 2008 at 9:54 am["Barking Loony" Rohrabacher]: It’s another thing to have a growling dog around, or putting panties on someone’s head, or discussing — telling him he had repressed homosexual tendencies in his presence.
Any reputable shrink will tell you that such behaviour says far more about the “repressed … tendencies” of the captors than it does of the detainees subjected to such (and how could it be otherwise?; the only ones that are exhibiting voluntary behaviour here are the captors). And about the “repressed … tendencies” of those that applaud such behaviour….
Cheers,
June 5th, 2008 at 12:58 pmThis man is a disgusting conservative pig… I am amazed at the GOP’s idiocy.
June 6th, 2008 at 9:45 pm