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	<title>Comments on: Rohrabacher: Torture At Guantanamo Simply &#8216;Hazing Pranks From Some Fraternity&#8217;</title>
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		<title>By: DocAimster</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/06/04/rohrabacher-torture/comment-page-3/#comment-5003712</link>
		<dc:creator>DocAimster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 01:45:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This man is a disgusting conservative pig... I am amazed at the GOP&#039;s idiocy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This man is a disgusting conservative pig&#8230; I am amazed at the GOP&#8217;s idiocy.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5003712', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: zuch</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/06/04/rohrabacher-torture/comment-page-3/#comment-4999680</link>
		<dc:creator>zuch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 16:58:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;[&quot;Barking Loony&quot; Rohrabacher]: It’s another thing to have a growling dog around, or putting panties on someone’s head, or discussing — telling him he had repressed homosexual tendencies in his presence.&lt;/i&gt;

Any reputable shrink will tell you that such behaviour says &lt;b&gt;far more&lt;/b&gt; about the &quot;repressed ... tendencies&quot; of the captors than it does of the detainees subjected to such (and how could it be otherwise?; the only ones that are exhibiting voluntary behaviour here are the captors).  And about the &quot;repressed ... tendencies&quot; of those that applaud such behaviour....

Cheers,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>["Barking Loony" Rohrabacher]: It’s another thing to have a growling dog around, or putting panties on someone’s head, or discussing — telling him he had repressed homosexual tendencies in his presence.</i></p>
<p>Any reputable shrink will tell you that such behaviour says <b>far more</b> about the &#8220;repressed &#8230; tendencies&#8221; of the captors than it does of the detainees subjected to such (and how could it be otherwise?; the only ones that are exhibiting voluntary behaviour here are the captors).  And about the &#8220;repressed &#8230; tendencies&#8221; of those that applaud such behaviour&#8230;.</p>
<p>Cheers,<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4999680', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: tallandshiny</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/06/04/rohrabacher-torture/comment-page-3/#comment-4998928</link>
		<dc:creator>tallandshiny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 13:54:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bush should be in there providing the keg.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bush should be in there providing the keg.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4998928', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: GeeDubs</title>
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		<dc:creator>GeeDubs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 13:54:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sort of takes the term &#039;asshat&#039; to a whole new level...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sort of takes the term &#8216;asshat&#8217; to a whole new level&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4998922', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Max-1</title>
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		<dc:creator>Max-1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 08:04:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>.

So California, does Dana Rohrabacher faithfully represent your views... or his?

REALLY? 

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<p>So California, does Dana Rohrabacher faithfully represent your views&#8230; or his?</p>
<p>REALLY? </p>
<p>.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4998698', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: republicanSScareme</title>
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		<dc:creator>republicanSScareme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 05:29:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is Mr. Rohrabacher aware of the fact that most Americans consider him a pathetic gasbag?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is Mr. Rohrabacher aware of the fact that most Americans consider him a pathetic gasbag?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4998656', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: sacopenapa</title>
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		<dc:creator>sacopenapa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 03:16:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rep. Dana Rohrabacher should be fraternitly WATERBOARDED, black hooded, have his sleep fraternitly deprived and placed in a very fratenal way in shackles in stress position. Ah... wearing a very fraternal orange suit. USA style!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rep. Dana Rohrabacher should be fraternitly WATERBOARDED, black hooded, have his sleep fraternitly deprived and placed in a very fratenal way in shackles in stress position. Ah&#8230; wearing a very fraternal orange suit. USA style!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4998544', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Shayne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 02:48:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My please Tired of Fighting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My please Tired of Fighting.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4998518', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: blue state bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>blue state bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 01:00:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dana Rohrabacher has always been in idiot, seems like he at least is consistent in that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dana Rohrabacher has always been in idiot, seems like he at least is consistent in that.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4998374', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: dgdavidgreene</title>
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		<dc:creator>dgdavidgreene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 00:38:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rohrabacher has a Challenger.

Debbie Cook, Mayor of Huntington Beach.

Please support her in her efforts to unseat Dana Rohrabacher.

&lt;a&gt;Debbie Cook for Congress&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rohrabacher has a Challenger.</p>
<p>Debbie Cook, Mayor of Huntington Beach.</p>
<p>Please support her in her efforts to unseat Dana Rohrabacher.</p>
<p><a>Debbie Cook for Congress</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4998336', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: buckrogers1965</title>
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		<dc:creator>buckrogers1965</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 00:16:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think these people are confusing the bdsm that they do for fun with their gay tops with actual real torture that dehumanizes and drives people insane and that lasts day after day after day for years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think these people are confusing the bdsm that they do for fun with their gay tops with actual real torture that dehumanizes and drives people insane and that lasts day after day after day for years.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4998298', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: cha cha cha</title>
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		<dc:creator>cha cha cha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 23:48:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dana&#039;s just angry about the hazing he had to go through in order to hang out with the Taliban:

http://www.ocweekly.com/features/features/rogue-statesman/21591/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dana&#8217;s just angry about the hazing he had to go through in order to hang out with the Taliban:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ocweekly.com/features/features/rogue-statesman/21591/" rel="nofollow">http://www.ocweekly.com/features/features/rogue-statesman/21591/</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4998242', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Tired Of Fighting</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tired Of Fighting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 23:37:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank You Shayne :

As well as all of you who have defended me in my abscence, I truly appreciate your convictions and your willingness to confront BS.


Again Thank You


RIP
SGT Stephen R. Sherman
C CO 1-5 In (STRYKER)
KIA 3 feb 2005
Mosul, Iraq</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank You Shayne :</p>
<p>As well as all of you who have defended me in my abscence, I truly appreciate your convictions and your willingness to confront BS.</p>
<p>Again Thank You</p>
<p>RIP<br />
SGT Stephen R. Sherman<br />
C CO 1-5 In (STRYKER)<br />
KIA 3 feb 2005<br />
Mosul, Iraq<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4998218', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: jaramilr</title>
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		<dc:creator>jaramilr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 23:21:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;fraternity boy pranks and hazing pranks&quot;

The one minor difference being that frat boys would be kicked out of school and sent to jail, whereas these guys...


&quot;these are acts of humiliation&quot;, not torture.

Oh how silly of us to confuse the two. Since you put it that way I guess it&#039;s ok then. Run along now you little scamp.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;fraternity boy pranks and hazing pranks&#8221;</p>
<p>The one minor difference being that frat boys would be kicked out of school and sent to jail, whereas these guys&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;these are acts of humiliation&#8221;, not torture.</p>
<p>Oh how silly of us to confuse the two. Since you put it that way I guess it&#8217;s ok then. Run along now you little scamp.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4998192', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: pete</title>
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		<dc:creator>pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 23:21:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm. What an odd thing to be awaiting moderation. Let&#039;s try this. 

There&#039;s a certain right-leaning radio host who is contending that Rep. Rohrabacher is &quot;defending the integrity of the U.S. Armed Services&quot;. What a pile of crud.

The way to defend the integrity of the U.S. Armed Services is to charge, try, and convict the guilty parties, all the way to the top. If prisoner abuse were pursued Rummy, if not the Dick or the Chimp, would end up in prison.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm. What an odd thing to be awaiting moderation. Let&#8217;s try this. </p>
<p>There&#8217;s a certain right-leaning radio host who is contending that Rep. Rohrabacher is &#8220;defending the integrity of the U.S. Armed Services&#8221;. What a pile of crud.</p>
<p>The way to defend the integrity of the U.S. Armed Services is to charge, try, and convict the guilty parties, all the way to the top. If prisoner abuse were pursued Rummy, if not the Dick or the Chimp, would end up in prison.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4998190', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Shayne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 23:13:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post Tired of Fighting and thank you for your service.  The regulars here all know you&#039;re real just like many of the other progressive posters here.  It&#039;s these worthless trolls who  have never contributed to anything in their lives collecting their troll fee and welfare that came up with the bogus attack.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post Tired of Fighting and thank you for your service.  The regulars here all know you&#8217;re real just like many of the other progressive posters here.  It&#8217;s these worthless trolls who  have never contributed to anything in their lives collecting their troll fee and welfare that came up with the bogus attack.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4998166', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Klem Kiddilehopper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Klem Kiddilehopper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 23:03:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dana (isn&#039;t that a girls name)Rohrabacher never served a minute in the military during the Vietnam War Era, stayed in college!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dana (isn&#8217;t that a girls name)Rohrabacher never served a minute in the military during the Vietnam War Era, stayed in college!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4998144', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: pete</title>
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		<dc:creator>pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 22:57:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow! Our pet troll certainly has lowered the bar. I sure think that trolls, much like Rep. Rohrabacher, would benefit from a stay in the custody of &quot;enemy combatants&quot;. Perhaps they would learn why ALL prisoners MUST be humanely treated at ALL times.

We didn&#039;t sign the Geneva, and other, Accords to protect our enemies. International treaties exist to protect our citizens who are held by a foreign power whether legit or not. No one can even guess how many thousands of American citizens have been spared torture, humiliation, starvation and death, because of our once sterling reputation earned by a standing tradition of treating prisoners with honor and respect.

That&#039;s gone. The whole world knows, beyond the need of a show trial, that the Government of The United States of America ordered the systematic coercion, including by means of torture, of prisoners. And the blood of the next American tortured to death, and countless more for generations to come, will be on the hands of the criminals who pissed away the good will of the entire planet. If you believe in God, pray that our great grandchildren are forgiven the crimes of Bushco though it may prove more than we deserve.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! Our pet troll certainly has lowered the bar. I sure think that trolls, much like Rep. Rohrabacher, would benefit from a stay in the custody of &#8220;enemy combatants&#8221;. Perhaps they would learn why ALL prisoners MUST be humanely treated at ALL times.</p>
<p>We didn&#8217;t sign the Geneva, and other, Accords to protect our enemies. International treaties exist to protect our citizens who are held by a foreign power whether legit or not. No one can even guess how many thousands of American citizens have been spared torture, humiliation, starvation and death, because of our once sterling reputation earned by a standing tradition of treating prisoners with honor and respect.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s gone. The whole world knows, beyond the need of a show trial, that the Government of The United States of America ordered the systematic coercion, including by means of torture, of prisoners. And the blood of the next American tortured to death, and countless more for generations to come, will be on the hands of the criminals who pissed away the good will of the entire planet. If you believe in God, pray that our great grandchildren are forgiven the crimes of Bushco though it may prove more than we deserve.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4998128', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: pbg</title>
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		<dc:creator>pbg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 22:47:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sometimes i think there is a God. 
We endure a terrorist attack on the World Trade Center in 1993.
We play by the rules, work with the nations of the world, and we find the perpetrators (including their leader overseas in a Muslim country), bring them to justice, give them all the legal protections in our judicial system, and convict them and send them to prison.
We get attacked in Oklahoma City--we play by the rules, we find the perpetrator, give him every legal protection, find him guilty, and execute him.
Justice is served. WE win.

We are attacked on Sept. 11, 2001. We (led by Republicans this time) decide we can&#039;t afford to play by the rules. We have to violate the Bill of Rights and the Geneva Conventions, lock people away in Chekist brigs, invade other countries preemptively in the grand tradition of the Divine Emperor of Japan and the Reichskanzler of Germany, spy illegally on our own citizens, torture our prisoners, and bring the full force of the largest war machine in the world on a small country.
And our army is broken and at the edge of collapse, we lose the wars we initiated, and the person responsible for the attack is still at large and issuing mocking public statements.
We throw away all our principles, arguing we&#039;ll lose if we play by the rules, and what happens? 
We lose.
Over and  over and over in the Bible the point is made: abandon the Law and you lose. Your riches will vanish, your armies crumble if you act without law, honor and justice.
It&#039;s times like these that make me think there&#039;s something to that book after all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sometimes i think there is a God.<br />
We endure a terrorist attack on the World Trade Center in 1993.<br />
We play by the rules, work with the nations of the world, and we find the perpetrators (including their leader overseas in a Muslim country), bring them to justice, give them all the legal protections in our judicial system, and convict them and send them to prison.<br />
We get attacked in Oklahoma City&#8211;we play by the rules, we find the perpetrator, give him every legal protection, find him guilty, and execute him.<br />
Justice is served. WE win.</p>
<p>We are attacked on Sept. 11, 2001. We (led by Republicans this time) decide we can&#8217;t afford to play by the rules. We have to violate the Bill of Rights and the Geneva Conventions, lock people away in Chekist brigs, invade other countries preemptively in the grand tradition of the Divine Emperor of Japan and the Reichskanzler of Germany, spy illegally on our own citizens, torture our prisoners, and bring the full force of the largest war machine in the world on a small country.<br />
And our army is broken and at the edge of collapse, we lose the wars we initiated, and the person responsible for the attack is still at large and issuing mocking public statements.<br />
We throw away all our principles, arguing we&#8217;ll lose if we play by the rules, and what happens?<br />
We lose.<br />
Over and  over and over in the Bible the point is made: abandon the Law and you lose. Your riches will vanish, your armies crumble if you act without law, honor and justice.<br />
It&#8217;s times like these that make me think there&#8217;s something to that book after all.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4998110', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Tired Of Fighting</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tired Of Fighting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 22:32:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m Back.

This was tried on me a few months ago by Mr.Pee and some other trolls. It didn&#039;t work then and it wont work now. I will FOREVER honor MY SOLDIER by remembering him in EVERYTHING I DO, no matter what it is. the fact that I have served for 22 years (Army) and have put my life on the line countless times is just too much for some who have NEVER had the courage and the will to do so.

So they use tactics which I can only describe as dis-honorable. If you really want to talk to me and take a certain &quot;tone&quot; with me, you would meet at the Fort Lewis  Museum in front of the 1st BDE 25th Ind Div fallen Soldier&#039;s Monument, and then you can see me and the names all who fell in Iraq.

SGT Sherman WAS and WILL ALWAY&#039;S BE MY SOLDIER. His Mother, Father, and Sister were present when the Monument was revealed and my Wife and I along with my Daughter (Air Force) escorted them and sponsored them during their entire time here, and we became close and now call ourselves FAMILY.

So the cheap and downright callous attacks by some here are really quite expected, because you see, when you have done nothing in defense of your country and others have you feel &quot;short&quot; and you compensate by attacking those who have. 

So have your fun, claim that I havent done this or that (my DD214 says otherwise, and you might be impressed if you ever had the pleasure to read it), and continue to mock my Soldier, knowing full well that we will never meet and you will never pay for your words, at least you hope you dont.

Its something to have to listen to those who have not lost or sacrificed anything in this war. Those who blindly follow those who talk their talk. Well come walk mine and my former Soldier&#039;s (all 117 of them) walk and see if you could make it, and if one of them should fall how would you take it.

You would take it like me and honor him/her just like I do by NEVER FORGETTING, no matter what some idiot had to say.



RIP
SGT Stephen R. Sherman
C CO 1-5 IN (STRYKER)
KIA 3 Feb 2005
Mosul, Iraq</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m Back.</p>
<p>This was tried on me a few months ago by Mr.Pee and some other trolls. It didn&#8217;t work then and it wont work now. I will FOREVER honor MY SOLDIER by remembering him in EVERYTHING I DO, no matter what it is. the fact that I have served for 22 years (Army) and have put my life on the line countless times is just too much for some who have NEVER had the courage and the will to do so.</p>
<p>So they use tactics which I can only describe as dis-honorable. If you really want to talk to me and take a certain &#8220;tone&#8221; with me, you would meet at the Fort Lewis  Museum in front of the 1st BDE 25th Ind Div fallen Soldier&#8217;s Monument, and then you can see me and the names all who fell in Iraq.</p>
<p>SGT Sherman WAS and WILL ALWAY&#8217;S BE MY SOLDIER. His Mother, Father, and Sister were present when the Monument was revealed and my Wife and I along with my Daughter (Air Force) escorted them and sponsored them during their entire time here, and we became close and now call ourselves FAMILY.</p>
<p>So the cheap and downright callous attacks by some here are really quite expected, because you see, when you have done nothing in defense of your country and others have you feel &#8220;short&#8221; and you compensate by attacking those who have. </p>
<p>So have your fun, claim that I havent done this or that (my DD214 says otherwise, and you might be impressed if you ever had the pleasure to read it), and continue to mock my Soldier, knowing full well that we will never meet and you will never pay for your words, at least you hope you dont.</p>
<p>Its something to have to listen to those who have not lost or sacrificed anything in this war. Those who blindly follow those who talk their talk. Well come walk mine and my former Soldier&#8217;s (all 117 of them) walk and see if you could make it, and if one of them should fall how would you take it.</p>
<p>You would take it like me and honor him/her just like I do by NEVER FORGETTING, no matter what some idiot had to say.</p>
<p>RIP<br />
SGT Stephen R. Sherman<br />
C CO 1-5 IN (STRYKER)<br />
KIA 3 Feb 2005<br />
Mosul, Iraq<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4998074', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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