Congressional Black Caucus Foundation receives racist Obama t-shirt in the mail.
Congressional Black Caucus Foundation receives racist Obama t-shirt in the mail.
On Wednesday, the Congressional Black Caucus Foundation (CBCF) received an offensive t-shirt in the mail; the shirt had “a cartoon image of Curious George, the beloved children’s character, with a paper bag over his head holding a sign that says ‘A Truth We Can Believe in ‘08!!!’ written underneath.” The Washington Post describes the back of the shirt:
The back of the shirt lists several African American organizations. … It prints the United Nations’ definition of “racial discrimination” and states, underneath the listing of all the black organizations, “Who is really causing the Racial Division.”
The t-shirt also says: “There are over 1,000 African American, Hispanic and other minority organizations in America. How many white organizations can you find? Or can you imagine what would happen every time one was made?” Mingled with the listing of the numerous black organizations is the Ku Klux Klan and two Hispanic groups.
CBCF president Elsie Scott was disturbed by the image of Curious George with a bag over his head, which reminded her of a lynching. Recently, other controversial t-shirts featuring Curious George and Obama ‘08 logos have also appeared.
I look at the image and see the current Chimp in Chief (George) finally coming to grips with reality, and supporting the truth for a change…
(He’s embarrassed of his abject failure as a leader of the free world, that’s why he has the bag over his head)
June 6th, 2008 at 8:19 pmSo f’cking what?, a dumb t-shirt from an anonymous donor?.Now what, will they make a speech denouncing the racism?.
June 6th, 2008 at 8:20 pm.
Let the racist come out of the closets and shadows…
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June 6th, 2008 at 8:21 pmand the republiscums like to play as if the racisms over….
June 6th, 2008 at 8:28 pmMax-1 Says:
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Let the racist come out of the closets and shadows…
He just did…
player Says:
So f’cking what?, a dumb t-shirt from an anonymous donor?.Now what, will they make a speech denouncing the racism?.
June 6th, 2008 at 8:28 pmPeople reveal their true characters when put under pressure.
Obama’s nomination will put racists under pressure, and they will reveal their true natures.
It’s gonna get ugly.
June 6th, 2008 at 8:32 pmralph the wonder llama Says:
Obama’s nomination will put racists under pressure, and they will reveal their true natures.
It’s gonna get ugly.
And weird. We haven’t heard from Fred Phelps in awhile. he must be cooking something vile, in that demented witches-cauldron of a mind of his.
June 6th, 2008 at 8:40 pmplayer Says:
June 6th, 2008 at 8:20 pm
This, ladies and gentlemen, is part of the problem.
Flagged.
June 6th, 2008 at 8:46 pmGosh I thought we “came a long way” since those days?
/sarc
I also think the last 7 years have “emboldened” the racists.
June 6th, 2008 at 8:46 pmWhite Guilt is not a requirement for Presidents..
June 6th, 2008 at 8:47 pmbarfly Says
June 6th, 2008 at 8:40 pm
And weird. We haven’t heard from Fred Phelps in awhile. he must be cooking something vile, in that demented witches-cauldron of a mind of his.
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You think he’s going to switch from “God hates fags” to “God hates (fill in any appropriate racial slur here)”?
It wouldn’t surprise me. It will be interesting to see which bible verse he twists to fit his agenda if he does.
June 6th, 2008 at 8:47 pmold_hack Says:
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White Guilt is not a requirement for Presidents..
June 6th, 2008 at 8:47 pm
What the hell are you talking about?
June 6th, 2008 at 8:49 pmnot so fast Namtillaku, we haven’t heard from johnboy, gunclinger, upright left and all the other rw trolls yet.
June 6th, 2008 at 8:50 pmYes, the fringe looneys will have a field day. But come out of their hiding places? Not a chance. Anonymity is their stock in trade. I expect the internet will be used a good bit by these kooks.
I’m waiting for the shoe to drop, so I wonder if the “swiftboat” tactic the neocons will attempt in 2008, will be the race card. If so, I don’t fear that Obama will have a problem handling it. In fact it might well work to his advantage. I have been very impressed at how well he has handled the attacks thrown against him during the primary.
June 6th, 2008 at 8:50 pmThe miscreants and racists of this nation will never be changed — their numbers will dwindle and they will eventually die off. Unfortunately that is the best we can hope for.
June 6th, 2008 at 8:51 pmYou know, you would have to wonder who would wear one of these T-Shirts out in public. After all, these people would be cowards wouldn’t they?
June 6th, 2008 at 8:55 pm“How many white organizations can you find? Or can you imagine what would happen every time one was made?”
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What these racists don’t understand (or perhaps they do understand and just choose to ignore) is that there are MANY “white” organizations in this country. Only that’s not what they’re called. There are Swedish clubs, Sons of Norway, Irish groups, Italian groups, Scottish clubs, Turkish organizations, etc. These groups are about celebrating the traditions and culture of one’s ethnicity — just as African-American and Hispanic groups are. Most of these groups don’t bar people not of the ethnic group celebrated by the organization, but there’s not usually a line of these people banging at the door to get in.
Now, ANY group that gets together for the express purpose of hating all others not part of the group deserves to be condemned — black, white, or whatever. I would be interested to know how many of these groups listed on the t-shirt actually fall in this category.
June 6th, 2008 at 8:56 pmMerlin Says
June 6th, 2008 at 8:55 pm
You know, you would have to wonder who would wear one of these T-Shirts out in public. After all, these people would be cowards wouldn’t they?
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I agree, they would be too afraid to wear them out in public. But they probably provide a comfortable liner underneath their robe and hood.
June 6th, 2008 at 8:57 pmMiss H. Molly said it exceptionally well.
June 6th, 2008 at 9:00 pmAnd this will be a long summer ahead. The racists and bigots are coming out in droves to attack Obama. The neo-cons have released the bigot hounds.
Very sad but this Presidential race will get ugly.
June 6th, 2008 at 9:01 pmMy Republican co-worker told me he thinks if Hillary gets VP, she’ll have Obama offed.
That’s a new one.
June 6th, 2008 at 9:06 pmI also think the last 7 years have “emboldened” the racists.
For Truth
I agree. Great advances were made during the Clinton years in terms of racial acceptance. Up until 9/11, Muslims were looked upon (albeit looked down upon) as more of a curiosity, rather than a threat.
June 6th, 2008 at 9:07 pmOvernight the Bush/Cheney Fear Machine turned the whole of Islam into the ultimate bogey man. Because of the actions of a splinter group of radical extremists (initially supported and trained by the CIA)who are little different from the corporate militarists they initially fought for. Now the least little connection, whether it be a name, or country of origin, or darkness of skin color is enough to whip the craven, fearful, an ignorant by choice segment of the American populace into a froth of spittle. On television.
It will get ugly.
Yet America as a majority will turn away from the ugliness, and the purveyors of the distortions and the maliciousness will find themselves out on the dung pile.
Zooy,
June 6th, 2008 at 9:10 pmPay no attention to that_hack, he’s old.
Nah, Max. He’s just stupid.
June 6th, 2008 at 9:18 pmmy own nephew, my brother’s son, 24, fireman, sent me that viral email with the “white organization” meme… sickening…
well, we knew it was coming… racist idjits will be showing
themselves in record numbers soon…
and, hopefully, enough right-minded people will be putting them
in their place…
it’s up to us.
June 6th, 2008 at 9:18 pmThey think these things up while they patrol their compounds on their rider mowers.
Someone should have told them that a chimp with a bag over it’s head is more reminiscent of Bush than Obama.
June 6th, 2008 at 9:19 pmAs an indicator of how entrenched the fear factor has become, the first response I get from others (average age, lets say late 20’s) when I discuss Obama as President, is the fear that he would be assassinated.
I counter with: “Don’t you feel how sad that is, that fear has been so implanted in your psyche it paralyzes your willingness to support a higher good for all?”
followed by: “Focus on the positive aspect of courage, and an unwillingness to allow that kind of evil to manifest itself.”
We can do this, people. With mental, emotional, spiritual, and physical strength entwined as one, America will emerge from this nightmare and regain it’s place in the world as a beacon of hope for justice, human rights, and a true voice for all people.
June 6th, 2008 at 9:20 pmNevar Says:
With mental, emotional, spiritual, and physical strength entwined as one, America will emerge from this nightmare and regain it’s place in the world as a beacon of hope for justice, human rights, and a true voice for all people.
Beautifully put!
June 6th, 2008 at 9:26 pmMarie Says:
The miscreants and racists of this nation will never be changed — their numbers will dwindle and they will eventually die off.
and a new generation steps in…
when i learned what a racist jerk my nephew was, it really surprised me… though in hindsight i don’t know why…
my own kids and their life’s paths have spoiled me…
i knew the kid was a jerk, just not a racist jerk…
…
i heard jonathon alter mention a story he’d worked on about the skin heads in europe (germany?)… they are a huge, ugly problem there…
June 6th, 2008 at 9:27 pmFunny I can still hear Pat Buchanan and many other white pundits screaming of Reverend Wright’s and Father Pfleger’s speeches because they felt they were racist against whites and what would happen if the white man did the same thing. Well guess what boys, white men do it every freakin’ day. They can dish it out but they can’t take it can they.
June 6th, 2008 at 9:42 pmWhat do you expect from a country that votes Republican for ANY office ANYWHERE.
June 6th, 2008 at 9:45 pmCurious George is a sweet, charming new series on PBS. If Obama was smart, he would acknowledge the show, praise how it “teaches children” (get it?) and knock the idiots that are using it.
I’m tired of bigots tainting everything they touch. It’s not the fault of the producers that some ‘muricans are jerks.
June 6th, 2008 at 9:47 pmForTruth, no it’s not. I have been hearing rumblings of that for some time.
June 6th, 2008 at 9:50 pmLook, there are all kinds of ways of showing your love for your country and making painful sacrifices in time of war. BE NICE! White peeple have a great deal to concern them. Sure, things are sweet in Iraq, a good bloody war is going strong, with a no-end-in-sight momemtum even after several YEARS that is as good as a blinding ray sunshine on a gloomy morning to a family-oriented Fox-News-loyal American, but that does NOT mean the country is as safe as it COULD be. We have spoilers, ruiners of all kinds. The blacks and mex-texes and the Veet-Num-Ezes, all these…these…GROUPS! Doesn’t it worry any of you? What, are you all not even WHITE, f’crissakes? You had better wake up, smell the coffee, and get to counting non-white organizations in this country, because this is the poison that is spoiling everything, just when things are almost PERFECT.
June 6th, 2008 at 9:53 pmnevar-the muslim world brings a lot of the fear and loathing on themselves-treating women as second class citizens, mans best friend as a nusiance, and (pardon me) venerating a man who started his adult life as a terrorist on the silk road(as opposed to carpentry)it’s more complicated than you imply!
June 6th, 2008 at 9:54 pmlaurelei23 Says:
Curious George is a sweet, charming new series on PBS. If Obama was smart, he would acknowledge the show, praise how it “teaches children” (get it?) and knock the idiots that are using it.
I’ve had this line of thought as well. Turn every mockery made of Obama’s name and racial background (REMEMBER! HE IS HALF CAUCASIAN!) into to a rapier to skewer the half wits who resort to such antediluvian tactics.
Example:
June 6th, 2008 at 10:01 pmRather a Curious George than another Idiot, George
pistolpackinliberal Says:
…it’s more complicated than you imply!
June 6th, 2008 at 9:54 pm
No, it’s not.
June 6th, 2008 at 10:02 pmThere will be no more chimpy references once chimpy leaves office.
Come on. we know this is what the repugs have. I know they are racist. I know they are limited on anything that’s the truth.
Plus it projecting what chimpy all ready hold claim to.
Does the many, many “Black” “Hispanics” count?
Does anyone else matter beside hillybillies?
Is mcchimpy a viable candidate in the repug partY? If not why give credence to it?
June 6th, 2008 at 10:09 pmzooey, of course it is. I seriously doubt you would want to live in a muslim world and I doubt many muslims think our culture is the end all be all.I sure don’t.
June 6th, 2008 at 10:09 pmpistolpackinliberal Says:
“nevar-the muslim world brings a lot of the fear and loathing on themselves”
I will certainly acknowledge you that. However there are evolved forms of all religions that have put aside the dogma and the self-terrorizing and become avenues for the human spirit to evolve.
I would hazard a guess that the christian world harbors an equal quotient of fear and loathing and injustice.
As well as a pure and unadulterated falsehood.
The Judeo-Christian religion is accountable for more death, destruction, persecution and torture than any other single organized religion.
Oh, and if you are referring to the dog as being a nuisance, well, I will wholeheartedly go along with that.
June 6th, 2008 at 10:10 pmOff topic…
Interesting if true
Top Cop Says McCain Was Never Tortured
Former Vietnam vet with top secret clearance - Republican frontrunner is “a lying skunk”
Paul Joseph Watson
http://www.prisonplanet.com/ articles/ february2008/ 020708_never_tortured.htm
?Prison Planet?Thursday, February 7th, 2008
A former Vietnam veteran with top secret clearance says he has personally spoken to numerous POW’s who dispute John McCain’s claim that he refused to provide information after he was captured and tortured in Hanoi, saying that in fact McCain’s code-name was “Songbird” because of his willingness to tell all to avoid torture.
Jack McLamb served nine years in secret operations in Cambodia and other nations before going on to become one of the most highly decorated police officer’s in Phoenix history, winning police officer of the year twice before taking a role as a hostage negotiator for the FBI.
“I know a lot of Vietnam veterans and a few POW’s and all the POW’s that I’ve talked to over the years say that John McCain is a lying skunk,” McLamb told the Alex Jones Show.
A former Vietnam veteran with top secret clearance says he has personally spoken to numerous POW’s who dispute John McCain’s claim that he refused to provide information after he was captured and tortured in Hanoi, saying that in fact McCain’s code-name was “Songbird” because of his willingness to tell all to avoid torture.
Jack McLamb served nine years in secret operations in Cambodia and other nations before going on to become one of the most highly decorated police officer’s in Phoenix history, winning police officer of the year twice before taking a role as a hostage negotiator for the FBI.
“I know a lot of Vietnam veterans and a few POW’s and all the POW’s that I’ve talked to over the years say that John McCain is a lying skunk,” McLamb told the Alex Jones Show.
June 6th, 2008 at 10:11 pmpistolpackinliberal Says:
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zooey, of course it is. I seriously doubt you would want to live in a muslim world and I doubt many muslims think our culture is the end all be all.I sure don’t.
June 6th, 2008 at 10:09 pm
I have Muslim neighbors. They are very nice people. I have never felt threatened by them, and they don’t feel threatened by me. I don’t have to live in the Muslim world to find oppression.
You are part of the problem.
June 6th, 2008 at 10:12 pmMerlin Says:
June 6th, 2008 at 10:11 pm
I really don’t think we ought to go down the “swiftboat” road.
Someone has already posted something about McCain being responsible for the USS Forrestal fire — and that has been debunked.
June 6th, 2008 at 10:15 pmOh gawd. It’s beyond “white guilt.” It’s more like the youth has taken away the old whiteman’s sting. Go on and feel guilty if one sees racist and does nothing. It’s ones lost if one chooses to stay behind aka conservatism.
Thank God I was raised on military bases. All kind of mixed love available, the children proved that.
Obama is white too. Why is it so hard to say?
June 6th, 2008 at 10:22 pmSurprised? No, not at all. Racists are cowards and whoever sent the tee shirt is a coward. They didn’t even have the courage to say who sent the shirt. Bet this racist also dodged fighting in Iraq.
June 6th, 2008 at 10:22 pmI think I can claim to have called this one. Although I can’t remember whether I said this on ThinkProgress or some other site, I distinctly remember posting a message some time ago to the effect that a lot of covert racism would start coming out of hiding into the light of day if Obama became the Democratic Party nominee — frankly, I think it was inevitable. (Yes, I realize that the T-shirt would have to have been mailed to the Congressional Black Caucus before Obama was named as the presumptive Democratic nominee in order for them to receive it on Wednesday — but what seems likely is that whoever mailed this saw the handwriting on the wall and posted it in advance with the presumption that this would be the result.)
As positive as I think it is for Obama to have been named the presumptive Democratic Party nominee, the fact nevertheless remains that racism is by no means dead in this country and that there are more than a few people — including some who may not be able to consciously acknowledge this even to themselves — who see things very differently. As much as I hate to say it, the possibility can’t be ruled out that we will be seeing more of this sort of thing and that it may get even uglier between now and November. At least some comfort can be found in the knowledge that this only shows just how afraid people like this are of Obama and that they perceive him to be a serious threat to a victory for McCain.
June 6th, 2008 at 10:23 pmUnless he proves me wrong, Player sent the shirt.
June 6th, 2008 at 10:23 pmZooey Says:
I really don’t think we ought to go down the “swiftboat” road.
Neither do I. However that does not change my comment, that it is interesting if true. It is more interesting if it is not true, eh? My real point is exactly what you noted. It probably isn’t, and it is coming from “our side” of the fence. It is necessary to confront this type of crap rather than deny that it is out there. I expect the trolls and the unholy rest will be pointing to this kind of stuff as representative of the Progressive folks.
June 6th, 2008 at 10:24 pmTrue, Merlin. Confront it, vet it, and set the record straight. Unlike the Repukes, who just throw shit out there to see if it sticks, and then run with it.
June 6th, 2008 at 10:28 pmOff topic
This was in today’s Seattle PI:
The most momentous event in the history of the Washington State Republican Party happened in Spokane last weekend.
On May 31, the delegates of the Washington State Republican Convention made the historic decision to declare the Washington state GOP to be the official anti-war party for our state. I will be forever grateful that I had the privilege to be among those who voted for the following resolution:
“Therefore be it resolved that the Republican Party should support formal declarations of war passed by the House of Representatives and repudiate ‘authorizations to us force’ or any other delegation of war declaration powers to any other body.”
The Washington State Republican Party shall no longer entrust our country’s honor, the lives of our soldiers and our international reputation to shadowy neocons and political operatives of dubious loyalty. If our country is to go to war, Congress must make that decision and must debate that decision.
We repudiate the lies of Bush. We reject the lie that is Iraq. We want our soldiers home alive and we want them home now. By passing this resolution, we have made the first step in restoring our Constitution.
The revolution has begun!
Yea sure…
June 6th, 2008 at 10:29 pmT shirt idea:
McCain, at the barbeque grill, basting a row of missiles…
June 6th, 2008 at 10:31 pm“Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb I can…”
looking over at snopes.com to see if this had made their site…
maybe find the origin… nope, not yet…
but i did find this interesting compilation email that you may be seeing more of…
(my search words were “t shirt, obama” and this came up):
Email lists racist passages…
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/ownwords.asp
June 6th, 2008 at 10:31 pmYup. Obama is scaring a lot of white boys right now. Even white boys who never thought they were racist are coming up with reasons why Obama shouldn’t be elected.
Some of my friends have been furiously coming up with numerous reasons why they believe Obama is the wrong choice. None of the reasons are valid; they are all ruled by deep, denied racism and fear that they will be marginalized as African-Americans have been.
We’re going to see a lot of it, an awful, horrible amount over the next few months. But racists are just bullies; stand up to them and they can’t stand it. I have a feeling that Obama knows how to handle it. But yes, it will certainly get very ugly.
June 6th, 2008 at 10:32 pmzooey-actually no-you are part of the problem. the intellectual naivete and laziness of thinking that because you have some muslim neighbors you can extrapolate your experience to a world view is pure arrogance.By the way, my brother-in-law is muslim.But that doesn’t qualify me to think I have the answers.
June 6th, 2008 at 10:35 pmNevar - good one!
Unless he proves me wrong, George W Bush is an idiot chimp.
June 6th, 2008 at 10:36 pmYou are so correct. When you stand up to these fools, they just start stammering and sounding like parrots… repeating the same thing over and over and then they get mad and walk away mumbling to themselves.
June 6th, 2008 at 10:41 pmpistolpackinliberal Says:
June 6th, 2008 at 10:35 pm
Sorry, but I belong to the human race. Nothing is gained by fear.
I’ve lived all over this country, and have had friends and neighbors of all nationalities. I learned that most people want the same things in life: Love, respect, and self-determination.
Extremism of any flavor is dangerous to all humanity.
You live in fear — the terrorists have won.
June 6th, 2008 at 10:43 pmpistolpackinliberal Says: By the way, my brother-in-law is muslim
This is a very familiar turn of phrase… have we met before?
What do you think, Zooey?
There are a number of very familiar tones ringing through posts tonight, with new and exciting screen names…
June 6th, 2008 at 10:44 pmI know in the USA Sen. Obama has seen the worse racism there is.
That’s a fact!
June 6th, 2008 at 10:44 pmHow many white organizations can you find?
Um, the Republican Party?
June 6th, 2008 at 10:45 pmNevar, all trolls are the same troll. ;)
June 6th, 2008 at 10:46 pmThe National Rifle Association may have a few token members of a different racial background, but as a whole they are pretty pale faced.
June 6th, 2008 at 10:48 pmHere we go folks. They’ve lowered the bar pretty low.
June 6th, 2008 at 10:52 pmBut I expect them to digg it out so they can go even lower.
HEY ZOOEY? Howzit goin?
Some trolls at least make an attempt at creativity…an indication that light is not totally lethal to them…
June 6th, 2008 at 10:52 pmZooey-you’re damn right I live in fear-what sane person would’nt amongst a population that’s overbreeding itself into extinction.Are you not familiar with the concept behind my moniker?-you’re more of a limousine liberal than I thought. And to the other smug commentator-do you wish to doubt that my b-in-law is also black? Do you want to tell me that my family has’ny had a black member of it since I was 14?
June 6th, 2008 at 10:52 pmHey, mudsharks buddy! Long time, no see. :)
June 6th, 2008 at 10:53 pmSince when does the loser get to choose who’s the winner? Does hill’s admitting lost depend on Sen. Obama winning the dem nomination?
I know Sen. Obama saw that this election would advantage whites. hill has to ease down, has to grasped air, is nearing a cardic heart thing cause she lost. It wasn’t close after 2/5/8. Think how hill would have reacted if she picked up the 3am call? she would have needed an ambulance.
June 6th, 2008 at 10:53 pmYeah, been kinda busy lately with the election and all.
June 6th, 2008 at 10:54 pmGood to see your in good health and bein you.
Obama, Clinton, and the entire Democratic delegation in Congress should state without qualification that they reject, denounce, and deplore these racial slurs. Enough is enough.
June 6th, 2008 at 10:58 pmpistolpackinliberal Says:
June 6th, 2008 at 10:52 pm
Ohhhhh, you have a black person in your family. That’s entirely different! Not.
Limousine liberal. That’s adorable.
I’d ask you about your moniker, but first I’d have to care.
Run along…
June 6th, 2008 at 10:58 pmmudsharks buddy Says:
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Yeah, been kinda busy lately with the election and all.
Good to see your in good health and bein you.
June 6th, 2008 at 10:54 pm
Good for you! I hope you’ll be around more. Click on my name to see what some of us TPers have gotten up to. :)
What can I say? I gotta be me.
June 6th, 2008 at 11:00 pmGame of Life.
June 6th, 2008 at 11:00 pmWhat is it? Do you believe everthing the MSM tells you?
Why do you bring that crap here too?
They have an identical voting record.
He is going to be ( how should I put this) friendly towards Israel.
Man, Your hatred for her knows no bounds.
sorry zooey, i have a short tolerance for divisiveness
June 6th, 2008 at 11:02 pmforgive my spelling.
Zooey- you obviously don’t care about anything but your own nit-witted opinions so I will run along-fast away from your wounded ego.I suggest some time on the dark side so you can shatter a few delusions!
June 6th, 2008 at 11:04 pmAnd to the other smug commentator-do you wish to doubt that my b-in-law is also black? Do you want to tell me that my family has’ny had a black member of it since I was 14?
I’m going to assume you are referring to me…
June 6th, 2008 at 11:04 pmIf your b-in-law is a Muslim, there is a good chance he is also “black”. A very common occurrence in the United States.
My comment inferring doubt of your information was directed at a common ploy used by characters known hereabouts as trolls.
They will often throw out baiting verbage, and then toss in confounding conundrums like “…by the way, my relative is the very thing I am attacking.”
And how could I possibly tell you anything about your family regardless of how old you were, or are? Absurd. I know nothing of you other than what you post here.
Go ahead and pack your pistol, but you haven’t earned yourself any other label than scared little man.
Hey Zooey, looks like you made a friend.
June 6th, 2008 at 11:05 pmpistolpackinliberal Says:
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Zooey- you obviously don’t care about anything but your own nit-witted opinions so I will run along-fast away from your wounded ego.I suggest some time on the dark side so you can shatter a few delusions!
June 6th, 2008 at 11:04 pm
You think you know something, but you don’t. I’ve done my time on the dark side, and came out on the other side having learned a few things. Try it some time, dipshit.
On second thought, don’t. You wouldn’t survive.
June 6th, 2008 at 11:07 pmZooey, you were way to nice to it.
June 6th, 2008 at 11:08 pmmudsharks buddy Says:
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Hey Zooey, looks like you made a friend.
June 6th, 2008 at 11:05 pm
I’m doing fine. :-) I always appreciate a friend, though.
June 6th, 2008 at 11:09 pmOh zooey, I can’t remember my password. DOH! LOL!
June 6th, 2008 at 11:11 pmI swear, ughhh. I’m workin on it.
mudsharks buddy Says:
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Zooey, you were way to nice to it.
June 6th, 2008 at 11:08 pm
Hey, why unleash the hounds on a sad little thing like that? He’s just scared.
June 6th, 2008 at 11:12 pmI see ya next time Zooey, be well.
June 6th, 2008 at 11:13 pmGreat seeing you, mudshark. :)
June 6th, 2008 at 11:17 pmmud you’re a blinded hill supporter.
I say the truth you are on the hill’s bs wagon.
Must you always clinch the loser hill’s apron string?
Stop with the bs and admit defeat although hill’s is denial.
June 6th, 2008 at 11:21 pmLMAO that is the funniest thing I have ever seen! Where can I get one of those? LOL
JT
June 6th, 2008 at 11:23 pmWhats hiding on your PC?
Identical voting record? Oh let’s forget about the 4k+ killed.
Yeah right!
June 6th, 2008 at 11:25 pmGame of Life Says: etc, etc, incoherence, etc…..
If I were you, I would fold.
June 6th, 2008 at 11:25 pmCome back next week when you’re flush.
I think Game of Life has been smoking too much “life.”
June 6th, 2008 at 11:27 pmMaybe that’s why he has such weak hands. All the face cards are in the cleaning tray….
June 6th, 2008 at 11:30 pm**snort**
June 6th, 2008 at 11:38 pmAhhhh, are the hill’s supporters are in a bunch like hill’ g-string panties?
HAHAHAHA
Po things!
If you don’t understand English, don’t answer me.
***wiping loser’s sweat.”***
June 6th, 2008 at 11:42 pmGame of Life,
I’m typing this slowly, so you’ll understand.
Most of us are Obama supporters. But if you’d like to continue this line of idiocy, I’d suggest you take it elsewhere.
June 6th, 2008 at 11:45 pmZooey Says:
Game of Life,
I’m typing this slowly, so you’ll understand.
Most of us are Obama supporters. But if you’d like to continue this line of idiocy, I’d suggest you take it elsewhere.
He should play in the mud with RHF. They could provide much entertainment.
June 6th, 2008 at 11:54 pmThey could start their own blog. “Angry Nutcases.” :-)
June 6th, 2008 at 11:56 pmWell, apparently the fear card worked for someone here tonight.
June 6th, 2008 at 11:56 pmso game of life sent the t-shirt, right?
June 6th, 2008 at 11:57 pmAnyone remember the self-righteous United States supposedly leading the way in pressuring South Africa in the 1980s and early 1990s to end apartheid?
This story, in addition to the others that have surfaced recently (remember, the Repukes conveniently treat each incident that is part of a pattern as singular, non-significant events), must surely be playing well in Johannesburg.
June 7th, 2008 at 12:09 amgood news here…
http://www.newsday.com/ news/ local/ politics/ ny-usobam0607,0,6544526.story
scroll down a bit - a link to see Young Barack Obama photos
that last one, 21 of 21 pics - i was there. great day!
g’nite.
June 7th, 2008 at 12:13 amThe sexists were infuriating, but the racists can be dangerous. Hope sincerely that Obama has top notch security.
June 7th, 2008 at 12:16 amAddendum to my previous comment #97 –
In addition, any Repuke worthy of the label will summarily dismiss anyone who dares to “connect the dots” as a conspiracy theorist.
To better understand traditional Repuke strategies, check out tactics employed by defense attorneys when representing clearly guilty clients.
June 7th, 2008 at 12:18 amWould it be worth tracing it forensically, just to win arguments and stuff?
June 7th, 2008 at 12:29 amThere will be heavy “swiftboating” of this type towards Obama. The point that transcends the argument of racial division and who or what is causing it, is the fact that it should be openly addressed and rationally discussed. Since it is such a sensitive and emotionally charged subject it is one of the easiest things (and cheapest) to try to exploit by instigating the argument at that level.
I am confident that Obama will overcome the “criticisms” of the “concerned” fringe in the Presidential election.
My God I hope so.
June 7th, 2008 at 12:38 amAnd so it begins.
To all the racists who think this kind of shit is going to work.
Eff off. You’re backwards ass thinking is not going to serve you well over the next six months, nor the next eight years.
June 7th, 2008 at 12:42 amObama was raised with racism and bigotry and has had his whole life to understand it and come to grips with it. And in my view he has! As opposed to McBush, he is calm when attacked and under pressure. You will not hear him angrily using the “C” word or the “F” word, as has been done. I would love to have been a fly on the wall as he pulled Lieberman into the corner by the hand(shake which he did not let go of). Reports indicate (body language etc.) he overpowered him. “Walk softly but carry a big stick” applies to his approach. I feel his strength rather than see it.
June 7th, 2008 at 1:09 am> I seriously doubt you would want
> to live in a muslim world
I really wouldnt want to live in a world run by religious kooks of ANY following. Anyone who thinks they have a corner on truth isnt someone I really want to try and have a debate with or live around
> the intellectual naivete and laziness of thinking
> that because you have some muslim neighbors you can
> extrapolate your experience to a world view is
> pure arrogance
Right, not like the humble humility of people who think god is on THEIR side, blessing thier every action,,,right?
I think its funny that you’re about a million times more likely to be killed by one of your white trash american neighbors than you are by any “fur’ner”, and yet you’re incredibly terrified of that remote possibility while at the same time calling us naive.
Let me list some of the things that pose a greater probability of ending your putrid xenophobic existence that muslambs, arabhs, and other brown folk every could:
The flu.
Slipping in the bathtub.
Lightning.
PLane accidents.
masterbation mishaps.
deer in the road.
shall I continue or are you shaking in fear yet? Got any idea how long it takes for americans to kill more of their fellow american than died on 9-11? would you call me a liar if i told you it only takes them about a week, on average?
June 7th, 2008 at 1:51 amI am so bummed that I missed out on this whole deal…
June 7th, 2008 at 1:54 amObama is close to being a Saint…
He would not view the racism with hurt, anger or take it personally but would feel concern about how troubled the racists may be.
June 7th, 2008 at 2:06 amHit ém hard Fitzgerald right where it counts, it is YOU and the GRAND JURY BOX which are the only reason people have not completely lost faith in the Justice System!!!
These total tools of violence and evil, the Christain Zioni-st crazies must be vanquished and bludgeoned in court!
http://letsibeledmondsspeak.blogspot.com
http://www.fija.org
http://a-loon.blogspot.com
MAY GOD BE WITH US ALL AGAINST THESE FALSE CHRISTAINS!!!!!!
http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/cheney
WE MUST TRIUMPH!!!!
June 7th, 2008 at 3:40 amI would like to add to Chocolate Jesus’ list a couple of relevant causes of death for the express benefit of ‘pistolpackinliberal’…
June 7th, 2008 at 8:04 am-Being mistaken for a robber while banking
-Cleaning your pistol
I found this incredible item in the June 2 Newsweek:
“Two thirds of high-school seniors in 2006 couldn’t explain an old photo of a sign over a theater door reading COLORED ENTRANCE.”
TWO THIRDS!
June 7th, 2008 at 8:12 amI was talking with a couple of college grads, otherwise very informed, who had no idea Donald Rumsfeld had sold chemical weapons to Saddam Hussein.
June 7th, 2008 at 8:16 amI guess that’s not really saying much… not to many American’s do..
June 7th, 2008 at 8:25 amMorning gang! Is this the unofficial open thread? If not, my apologies for the OT but, if you have fast internet and an hour to kill, I really recommend this video.
http://fora.tv/ 2008/ 01/ 19/ Justin_Frank_Inside_the_Mind_of_President_Bush
June 7th, 2008 at 9:30 amGame of life.
June 7th, 2008 at 9:30 amIf this is the same Game of life fronm C&L
Maybe, maybe not. No difference.
You state that I’m a Hill Supporter.
Edwards, Game. That’s who I was for. But you knew that,
didn’t you? And as you very well know, I’ve been willing
to support either candidate. And that has been my position
for quite some time. Do I like HRC? Yes. Do I think she ran
the best campaign? No. Do I like Obama? Yes. Do I think
he’ll make a good President? Yes. But is lacking in the
foriegn policy dept. But I also think he’s a brilliant man
and will pick it up very quickly. You see, all the vitriol
and hyperbole won’t work on me. I’ve been for party unity
for months now. While I raised many questions about both
candidates, I did so in an impartial manner. To me there
is no striking difference between the two.
After all, their voting record speaks for it’s self.
But I’m wondering if this is Game or is it Vernace?
At anyrate, the insults and the innuendo will only harm our chances at winning the White House. Only a paid troll would keep trying to divide the party now.
And one more thing. I am for HRC for VP, to turn away from 17 million votes is a chance I’m not willing to take.but that’s just me. Have a nice day folks.
Game @#86 and #91
June 7th, 2008 at 9:40 amI could resond to this and tear you a new one Game. But in the interest of party unity I won’t. Ok , I have to respond to this.4K he signed to fund it, to further FISA, The Patriot Act( redux) and I can’t remember if he signed the Kyl Lieberman resolution.. But no matter, I’m under no illusions about either candidate. It’s all this childish and petty “you lost na,na na na na” .I mean really. How old are you? Ok I’m done . sorry if I pissed anyone off. adios.
Shayne Says : Funny I can still hear Pat Buchanan and many other white pundits screaming of Reverend Wright’s and Father Pfleger’s speeches because they felt they were racist against whites and what would happen if the white man did the same thing. Well guess what boys, white men do it every freakin’ day. They can dish it out but they can’t take it can they.
– and you can still see Pat Buchanan lurking not too far behind the most productive antiwar sites on the web, using an ad hoc alliance which seems to encompass everyone from Ron Paul to Karen Kwiatkowski to CounterPunch - despite their Tim Wise article calling Buchanan out last week, even CounterPunch generally encourage this ad hoc alliance, but if the Left lets the so-called ‘Old Right’ corner the antiwar market, they will trap it in a no-win false opposition, whereby Obama represents anti-racism and pro-war, whereas they themselves represent pro-racism and anti-war, and you will be told you can’t have both. It’s a set-up, one that the ‘Old Right’ themselves would describe in any other context as ‘Hegelian’.
June 7th, 2008 at 10:10 amThe true sh*tkickers of this country will crawl out from under their rocks and show their true colors from now till November. They’ll do and say ANYTHING to keep that “boy” Obama from becoming president.
June 7th, 2008 at 10:22 amBadger Says:
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I found this incredible item in the June 2 Newsweek:
“Two thirds of high-school seniors in 2006 couldn’t explain an old photo of a sign over a theater door reading COLORED ENTRANCE.”
TWO THIRDS!
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June 7th, 2008 at 10:28 amIn fairness to the children the article also mentioned that they are not information holders but instead information seekers and that overall IQ continues to rise
People who attempt to manipulate politics through intimidation and veiled or overt threats of terror are terrorists.
They should be arrested and tried for their crimes. But not under Bush’s ‘laws’. Although it would seem fair for the domestic terrorists who love how Bush has subverted the constitution to use his methods on them, we should get back to justice that upholds the constitution.
June 7th, 2008 at 10:38 amI am surprised at the number of white, suburban, middleclass kids who display racism in their speech and attitudes. Did the last generation, in an effort to give them a better life, do them a disservice by raising them in cooky-cutter neighborhoods with little contact with others from other backgrounds? Are they repeating the factless, baseless opinions of their elders without really thinking; are they just parrots - or are they that ignorant of the world in which they live? My own kids growing up had friends who expressed bigotry, inherited from their parents - and some remain ignorant.
Even so, there comes a time when people are of an age to be responsible for themselves, yet I often hear of well-educated young people who are extremely ignorant of important facts of history.
Parents - schools - society have failed.
I still hope that a successful black president will help to diminish the backward thinking that still permeates our society.
June 7th, 2008 at 10:52 amReminds me of this and this.
June 7th, 2008 at 11:05 amdbadass,
You are absolutely right …today’s young people are, for the most part, information seekers, not information holders.
It’s a new version of ” why do I need to know arithmetic when I have a calculator?” Why need to know anything, when I can just google it??
Well…this incredible lack of historical perspective provides some evidence that google alone will not do. How can young people, or anyone, understand the current situation of “colored people” without understanding Jim Crow ?
I greatly admire how today’s youth does not see the world in racial terms. And I think the information technology available today will change the world..is changing the world.
But without some sense of History, how can people today understand the legitimate feelings of “former second class citizens?”
Well this
June 7th, 2008 at 11:36 amZooey Says:
I’d ask you about your moniker, but first I’d have to care.
Run along…
You’re on a roll today. Keep me laughing with your one-liners :)~
June 7th, 2008 at 11:37 amLumpyDunky Says:
JT
Is your ISP watching you?
Hey TP….This poster advertises in EVERY SINGLE ONE of his/her posts. Is this suddenly allowed? Can I start advertising MY business on here for free?
June 7th, 2008 at 11:41 amBadger:
June 7th, 2008 at 11:52 amDon’t get me wrong I am sort of mortified by the information they lack and my job forces me to see it everyday. It is hard for information holding generations to understand their mindset. My only point was that they are not without intellect. My beef is their incredibly limited knowledge of vocabulary.
Here’s my take on the race awareness of the younger generation, from a personal perspective. I was born in NYC in 1953 to a blue-collar family. I am first generation American citizen on my Dad’s side and second generation on my Mom’s side. My Dad was (and is) a very racist and bigoted man. I grew up in a lily-white suburb hearing the words ni**er, sp*c, f*ggot, etc, on a daily basis. That being said, I’m happy to report I have been able to evolve in my adult life. I call myself a bleeding-heart liberal. My children, now 17 and 20 have grown up in an environment totally devoid of racial, ethnic or sexual slurs. When they were very young we moved from our lily-white NYC suburb to a racially/ethnically diverse area of Central Florida. My kids have grown up in neighborhoods with more blacks and hispanics than whites. Although they are aware that racism exists, they thankfully don’t have a racist bone in their bodies. I guess my point is this: at some point, it’s possible to break the chain of racism and bigotry. I’m happy to report my kids are as enthused about the possibility of an Obama presidency as I am. The best way to end racism, in my humble opinion, is for children to grow up in an environment of kindness and tolerance for all.
One last ironic note…My Dad (who was born in Switzerland and is a naturalized American citizen, as well as a life-long Democrat) told me recently that there is no way in hell he could vote for anyone with a foreign-sounding name like Obama.
June 7th, 2008 at 12:07 pmI’m thinking he’ll be even less pleased to find out his granddaughter is gay.
oy… hillary, you’re not helping with the “just like a woman” jokes…
“she might be as much as a half-hour away… speech will be short”
… talk about pressure…
June 7th, 2008 at 12:15 pmexit - born in switzerland? i don’t expect you to divulge your dad’s surname, but i’d bet it’s not smith, or jones…
our parents are/were some strange nuts, huh…
‘53 was a very good year - me too!
June 7th, 2008 at 12:21 pmExit Stage Left Says:
June 7th, 2008 at 12:07 pm
Thanks for sharing that, ESL. Isn’t it amazing the grip certain ideas can have? I’m glad you were able to rise above your raising.
I hope he’s able to overcome his attitude, so he doesn’t lose his granddaughter. I’m guessing you’re not holding your breath…
‘53? I’m glad there are two people here older than me. :-D
June 7th, 2008 at 12:32 pmkaty Says:
exit - born in switzerland? i don’t expect you to divulge your dad’s surname, but i’d bet it’s not smith, or jones…
our parents are/were some strange nuts, huh…
‘53 was a very good year - me too!
Nope…definitely not smith or jones…My opinion is my parents’ generation was very emotionally and socially dysfunctional.
June 7th, 2008 at 12:35 pmZooey Says:
‘53? I’m glad there are two people here older than me.
HEY…I resemble that remark :)~
June 7th, 2008 at 12:38 pmHeh. I know you do. :)
Funny. I’m SO much younger than you, but my sons (the men) are 25 and 20. They just got an apartment together in Portland, which I think is pretty cool.
June 7th, 2008 at 12:40 pmZooey Says:
I’m SO much younger than you
OK…we can go with that…whatever helps you sleep at night :)~
June 7th, 2008 at 12:51 pmVery interesting comments people. I hope this doesn’t go to far off track.
I have been doing some reading about education and according to many theorists, mostly European and Asian, the American education system does it backwards. In brief:
It has been suggested that very young children should be allowed to explore in a less structured setting and encouraged to leave lesson plans. The three R’s should be taught incidentally as tools to explore. This approach allows kids to benefit from their short attention spans (information seeking) and keeps them interested until the discipline of age enables them to concentrate on the niceties (information holding)of math, grammar, science and history.
Of course none of it will work without a fundamental change in how much of society fears intellectualism. The growing Home”school” movement is downright frightening. How a high school grad, or dropout, can believe they are equipped to teach is beyond me. Hopefully with the aging and demise of the Moral Majority generation, we can have a re dedication to learning for learnings sake?
June 7th, 2008 at 12:56 pmpete:
June 7th, 2008 at 1:03 pmHomeschooling done right is so overwhelming that I have seen very few successful incidences. Usually those children are thrown back into the public or private ed system within a year or two, once the parents realize the realities. My mentor holds a phd from Dartmouth and his wife holds well beyond a MA and they both agree that this was the hardest thing they ever did and would not try it again.
Off topic, but……So far, Hillary’s speech is way more than I expected. Total and unequivocal endonrsement of Obama. YAY :)
June 7th, 2008 at 1:05 pmendorsement
June 7th, 2008 at 1:06 pmDamn, my blogwhoring post didn’t make the cut. :(
TheZoo was liveblogging Hillary’s speech….not that it matters now. **sniff**
June 7th, 2008 at 1:21 pmexcellent speech, hillary… thank you!
but, where’s barack? guess that was too much to ask…
oh well… onward!
June 7th, 2008 at 1:21 pmand, of course,
YES WE CAN!
June 7th, 2008 at 1:23 pmLots of self-congratulations in that speech, but every time she said she was supporting Obama there were fewer boos from the crowd.
She couldn’t quite pull off the facial expressions — smiling when she talked about herself, and fairly wooden when she talked about Obama — but she may have convinced many of her supporters.
June 7th, 2008 at 1:28 pmActually, Curious George looks more like the present commander in chief than Obama. Always has.
June 7th, 2008 at 1:41 pmexit, our parents are of another generation, that’s all…
not a good excuse, but that’s what it is…
unfortunately, they sure raised some dysfunctional kids
because of it… and too many, i found out, are passing it on…
didn’t mean to seem to ignore your reply… wanted to post my hillary endorsement comment before having to run…
now that i have the proper tool for my rainbow vac, i’m down to the basement to suck up some water…
lots of rain last night… needed, but not in my basement…
zooey - you’re not THAT much younger, girl! … i KNOW!
June 7th, 2008 at 1:53 pmheh…
smiling when she talked about herself, and fairly wooden when she talked about Obama
i noticed that too, zooey… i even coached her, “smile, hillary,
c’mon… smile” … as usual, she didn’t listen to me…
i really do feel for her, she did a great thing…
June 7th, 2008 at 1:56 pmThat’s hilarious, katy. :-D
BTW, six years is a very long time. ;)
June 7th, 2008 at 1:59 pmZooey Says:
BTW, six years is a very long time. ;)
Depends on what you’re doing :)~
June 7th, 2008 at 2:06 pmExit Stage Left Says:
Depends on what you’re doing :)~
June 7th, 2008 at 2:06 pm
Very true. ;)
The last three weeks in IL have felt like six years. Lordy…I can think of better things.
June 7th, 2008 at 2:12 pmCan we all just get a bong?
June 7th, 2008 at 2:22 pmerr, I mean , along
I couldn’t agree more db.
I was encouraged/pushed to learn “adult stuff” from a very young age. And I received a lot of education in addition to school. (I think I set an unofficial record for cactus spines and received enough assorted stings that I developed serious allergies.) But, there is a very good reason that teaching is a respected, in some eras more than others, profession and children are sent to learn outside the home.
When I ran a restaurant, in a previous life, I had a couple of young home”schooled” gentlemen who worked for me. “Raising” them into functioning members of a staff was probably the most difficult, and rewarding, tasks of my life.
Thank providence their respective overbearing mothers realized it was time to let go. Both those young men went from being literally unable to hold a conversation without panic, to being competent to run the kitchen for my few days off. And they both say I had a lot to do with helping them adjust to life outside the nest. Both went on to college, careers and families; but I don’t know if they would have without mentoring. And I’ve met a few who never, apparently, manage to socialize. As problematic as public schools can be it’s still a pretty good model for preparing young citizens. And there aren’t really good substitutes for a somewhat structured “practice society”.
June 7th, 2008 at 2:45 pmHome schooling laws vary so much between states. How do we know if any child is being left behind? If I want to dress my kid in sweatshop abstinance garb and wrap them in the world’s largest confederate flag, can I claim it a curriculum?
June 7th, 2008 at 4:31 pmI think the major problems are; simple over protectiveness and inability of many parents to teach anything effectively. But, in some states one can call anything a “curriculum” for religious/philosophical reasons. And that’s where lack of training and lack of socializing get compounded by a contempt for “worldly” or “dangerous” knowledge. I really can’t think of a better way to ruin a child’s intellect. And as for “dangerous” knowledge, my dad had a saying that, “knowledge is only dangerous to the dangerously stupid”.
June 7th, 2008 at 5:42 pm