Duffy: ‘White House Lawyers Are Concerned’ McClellan’s Book Will Reignite ‘The Valerie Plame Business’
Duffy: ‘White House Lawyers Are Concerned’ McClellan’s Book Will Reignite ‘The Valerie Plame Business’
In his explosive new memoir, former White House press secretary Scott McClellan claims that Karl Rove, Scooter Libby, “and possibly Vice President Cheney” encouraged him to “
On NBC’s The Chris Matthews Show today, Time magazine assistant managing editor Michael Duffy said that the renewed attention to the scandal is causing White House lawyers to be “very concerned”:
DUFFY: White House lawyers are concerned, very concerned, now that Scott McClellan’s book has led Henry Waxman and John Conyers to take another look at the Valerie Plame business. There may be hearings. Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald may be called. Just another way in which a Democratic Congress might make a difference during the fall.
Watch it:
Last week, Waxman sent a letter to Attorney General Michael Mukasey, requesting that the Justice Department turn over FBI interviews of President Bush and Cheney that were conducted during the CIA leak scandal investigation. In the letter, Waxman cited “new revelations” from McClellan’s book, including the claim that “[t]he President and Vice President directed me to go out there and exonerate Scooter Libby.”
Additionally, White House lawyers are likely “concerned” that CIA leak special prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald indicated this week that he would be willing to testify before Congress about alleged efforts to push him off of politically sensitive cases like the leak scandal.
As Duffy said, this “could make things rough for everyone who was affiliated with the Plame affair.”
Are they concerned they might have to do a lot more work this summer, or that they won’t get paid?
June 8th, 2008 at 1:19 pmLord, I hope so. Of all the scandals and injustices perpetrated on the American people by BushCo, the Plame Affair always seemed to me to be the most egregious.
Outing a covert agent in wartime, as payback for criticism by her husband, just is the most naked act of treason a president has ever overseen. Now that we have some evidence that Bush was involved (and really, how could he not be?) it’s clear that, even by his own father’s standards, Bush is a traitor.
June 8th, 2008 at 1:20 pmYes, Houston, we have IGNITION…
Let’s get the truth of how Plame was outed out into the sunshine and let America see who the traitors are.
June 8th, 2008 at 1:22 pmCue Yellowknee up to pooh-pooh the Plame outing in 4, 3, 2, ….
June 8th, 2008 at 1:23 pmLet us remember as well what Valerie Plame was working on when she was outed… the Iranian nuclear issue….
June 8th, 2008 at 1:23 pmOuting her blew an entire operation that was gathering intelligence on what exactly the Iranians were or were not doing.
Let us remember as well what Valerie Plame was working on when she was outed… the Iranian nuclear issue…
This is what is known in the GDumbya administration as a “two-fer”.
June 8th, 2008 at 1:33 pm1. the leak got back at Joe Wilson for exposing GDumbya’s cooked intelligence and
2. it took out an expert on Iran’s nuclear program so that GDumbya and Darth Cheney could lie about it, too
.
So,
Who has been held consequentially accountable for the outing of a covert agent and her team?
.
June 8th, 2008 at 1:35 pmWht are the odds that those FBI interviews with dubya, darth and the rover have been ‘misplaced’?
Kinda like the missing minutes of tricky dickie’s tapes when his sexytary stepped on the wrong foot pedal. Heh Heh.
June 8th, 2008 at 1:39 pmIf it is boiling through the summer, let toss Shrub, Dickless and Kindasleezy in the pot.
June 8th, 2008 at 1:40 pmDan Rather’s blowing the doors down!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97SzcumnYdc
June 8th, 2008 at 1:41 pmI think the WH is right to be concerned.
Ew. I smell flop sweat.
June 8th, 2008 at 1:46 pmI think the cover story is embedded in the Fitz interviews with Cheney and Bush (and as I recall, Cheney was sitting there with Bush while he was interviewed). That story was ‘it was all a horrible misunderstanding’. Bush said he delegated ‘get it out’ to Cheney and Cheney claims he thought he was authorized to leak anything. But no, no, no, he didn’t tell Libby to leak Plame’s job. ;)
So why the concern now?
* when did Bush know Rove was involved? (hmmm, something about that Cheney memo about Libby being thrown under the bus but Rove being protected)
* and darn, was Rove an uninterested observer in the DoJ attorney purge?
But mostly, its about not having McSame answering awkward questions.
June 8th, 2008 at 1:47 pmDick Cheney has been working long and hard, for many many years, to abrogate the constitution and further the power of the military industrial complex.
June 8th, 2008 at 1:47 pmFrom the moment he was inserted as Gerald Ford’s Chief of Staff, his work has been to refine the corruption he observed Richard Nixon fail to pull off.
Cheney has been the man scurrying back and forth with the fat briefcase, furiously planning, scheming, and plotting while George the Dumb stood on stage blathering and bumbling.
There has been no single person to fit the description of a traitor to the United States of America, it’s Constitution, it’s servicemen and women, and it’s citizens than Richard Cheney. Ever.
That’s why we’re dumping the crooks this November.
June 8th, 2008 at 1:56 pmAnd ten posts later, the country wants to move forward, who cares about a little treason among BushitCo buddies, eh?
June 8th, 2008 at 1:58 pmI agree that this is the most egregious acts by this administration for the reason Nevar wrote: Plame (and Brewster Jennings) was a covert operation which was specifically in place to gather intelligence concerning nuclear proliferation in the Middle East, and in the most currently relevant terms; Iran and whether we have any, ANY reason to even consider nuking them. (Sorry to tangent but when did we become so cavalier with the thought of nuking anyone? Oh, right, when torture became di riguer.)
An operation which was in place for how many years? 20 I think I read. TWENTY YEARS OF CRITICAL INTELLIGENCE GATHERING CAPACITY DOWN THE TUBES!
I waffle back and forth between the biggest crime these people committed being lying us into war and outing Plame. But under the circumstances of the later being a fact (we are at “war”) the former becomes much more critical to the safety of this country.
Impeach. Try. Convict. Imprison.
Nothing less.
June 8th, 2008 at 1:58 pmSpeaking of Darth Cheney, I saw a clip of him delivering a commencement speech — in a cowboy hat of all things! He said he was jealous of the graduates because they could count on having a job next year. What a smarmy asshat!
He’ll be hiding from subpoenas, getting drunk every day and living it up in his “undisclosed location” on GDumbya’s compound in Paraguay and this year’s graduates will be left to drown in our failing economy thanks, in part, to him. Jealous? Oh, certainly.
June 8th, 2008 at 1:59 pmSorry. Moving forward is not an option.
Not if America is to continue to be America.
June 8th, 2008 at 2:01 pmKnowledge is the most dangerous thing to those in power.
June 8th, 2008 at 2:01 pmFlagged 19: OT, inciting.
Please don’t feed the trolls. Especially when completely OT.
June 8th, 2008 at 2:02 pmMs_Joanne Says:
I waffle back and forth between the biggest crime these people committed being lying us into war and outing Plame.
Same thing Ms Joanne. What we didn’t find in Africa was a reason to attack Iraq.
June 8th, 2008 at 2:02 pmBadger, related but different.
Iraq is a disaster of what should be unimaginable proportions.
Plame is endangering the safety and security of our country.
Brothers, to be sure…but still separate treasonous acts.
June 8th, 2008 at 2:04 pmI have flagged and made a motion to ban Thompney for the day.
June 8th, 2008 at 2:06 pmLet’s see - the NYT, the purported job of which is exposing misdeeds of our gummint, gets called traitor for doing its job, revealing Dick “Dick” Cheney is listening in on your phone calls without warrant; Dick “Dick” Cheney, part of whose purported job is protecting the clandestine assets of the U.S., willfully violates his duty for petty political payback and the MSM does their field of crickets imitation. Sounds about right; we have long ago fallen through the looking glass.
Also, Robert Novak still has foul, foul breath.
June 8th, 2008 at 2:06 pmNevar, I am flagging every off topic post.
He’s trying to incite, nothing less.
Makes me wonder which government IP address he’s phoning it in from.
June 8th, 2008 at 2:08 pmYou see, THIS is why you don’t allow White House officials to testify “not under oath with no transcript”.
June 8th, 2008 at 2:08 pmDarth already has a multi-million dollar condo in Dubai, which is now the corporate HQ for Halliburton. AND, NO WAY will he be extradited from there, now will dubya from Paraguay.
June 8th, 2008 at 2:09 pmHey R2, just keep whistling by the grave yard, nothing to see here, just move along.
(I do love the smell of repug flop sweat in the morning!)
June 8th, 2008 at 2:11 pmupside99 Says:
Wht are the odds that those FBI interviews with dubya, darth and the rover have been ‘misplaced’?
Kinda like the missing minutes of tricky dickie’s tapes when his sexytary stepped on the wrong foot pedal. Heh Heh.
It’d be more theatrical if Waxman/Coneyers subpoenaed the FBI agents who conducted the interview to testify anyway. That’d be fun to see!
June 8th, 2008 at 2:13 pmupside99…there is something to be said for extraordinary rendition at times. ;-)
June 8th, 2008 at 2:14 pmMs. Joanne,
Yea, and we sure have the folks on the US payroll who can pull it off!
June 8th, 2008 at 2:17 pmBushie,
Unless those FBI Agents got ‘misplaced’.
June 8th, 2008 at 2:18 pmrogers Says:
what a joke.
The actual joke is republiscum, like you, trying to defend crimes committed by the Bush MalAdministattion.
And you don’t realize you are part of the joke, because republicans have no real sense of humor. Even funnier
June 8th, 2008 at 2:19 pmMcClellan made himself relevant.
Why do Republicans hate the truth? Oh, because they get caught when the truth is exposed.
Siegleman.
Politicization of all agencies.
Katrina.
Lying into war.
Outing Plame.
Missing billions of taxpayer dollars.
Continuous lying about everything.
Corporate welfare.
Destruction of the middle class.
Ruining our economy.
Shame that the truth will bring an end to goopers forever, eh? Enjoy that permanent minority.
Impeach. Try. Convict. Imprison.
June 8th, 2008 at 2:20 pmBuh bye, Thompney troll.
June 8th, 2008 at 2:22 pmThompney Says:
What is this one rambling about?
Sorry, you are required to have a brain before we attempt explaining simple concepts to you.
June 8th, 2008 at 2:23 pmExtraordinary rendition, from Ms_Joanne in # 32.
Try to keep up, OK?
June 8th, 2008 at 2:23 pmWhen Jason Leopold gave the correct information the Washingpost and other Media reporters called him a liar. Yes Marcy Wheeler caught on later but wasn’t attacked because she was second to give the information. For those who did not follow the case here it goes. Fitz had all the liars lined up and the time line in place. Judy Miller was a key as was other insider reporters. Then came Novak with a date for information while it was classified. The list of corrupt insiders is long from David Gregory, Andrea Mitchell even idiot David Brooks. Now the Grand Jury heard the testimony and Karl Rove was indicted not by Fitz but by the Grand Jury. Attorney General Gonzales had a quickly had a meeting with Fitz and Judge Walton why? Well we know the White House left Libby out to hang so it was Karl that was more important. Fitz announced that Karl Rove had 48 hours to get his affairs in order. ( For those who know about jail you know what that means) The next morning Rove’s lawyer said he got a fax from Fitz clearing Rove. Fitz didn’t send the fax letter. The Court announces a Seal vs Seal case with a docket number following Libby. No one knows are at lease will admit who sent the fix or if their was a fax letter because no one has seen it. This scandal got out of hand because of Joe Wilson. Cheney thought Wilson’s article would stop the illegal plan of invading Iraq. Karl Rove was proved to be more important then Libby at one point. Just as Rekso said the White House would replace Fitz with a puppet lawyer but in the Plame investigation matter they acted to slow and with an idiot Attorney General it was made clear of the involvement. As we now know the Media was following the Propaganda Depts. information and the reporters all knew what to lie about because they were insiders and paid for their support. Plame case is big but when the real story of how the 9/11 attack was done by the US/Saudis then you’ll see the complete picture of why the 2000 election had to be fixed. Don’t be surprised if you hear some Democrats names in the mix either, there are alot of Law Makers from both Parties with blood on their hands and stolen money in their off shore accounts.
June 8th, 2008 at 2:23 pmThank’s for the link Old Hack, great work …..Blessings
June 8th, 2008 at 2:24 pmFlagging works, y’all. ;)
June 8th, 2008 at 2:24 pmIt frickin’ better. Bush/Cheney commited treason during wartime and they will be punished.
June 8th, 2008 at 2:26 pmZooey Says:
Flagging works, y’all. ;)
Yep, but I enjoyed getting my troll mallet out too.
June 8th, 2008 at 2:26 pmwhack and flag lol
Wayne,
Whack and double flag. ;)
June 8th, 2008 at 2:29 pmValerie Plame for Director of National Security
June 8th, 2008 at 2:29 pmMcCain choosing a great VP would do that.
If the other guy’s sole function is to replace McCain when he dies in office.
That means Dick’s super-powered manner of vice presidencing would be continued, unabated. So, in this election it doesn’t matter if McCain is a doddering old fool, ’cause he’ll be another Bush - but one who because he’s so old has a built-in obsolescence. That makes the second man even more important than the first.
Did republican voters choose him for that cynical reason? It’s no secret that large sections of the republican base don’t like him - and some outright hate him.
June 8th, 2008 at 2:30 pmNo banning Thompney! I just got here! I wanna poke at em a bit
June 8th, 2008 at 2:30 pmWhomever is picked as McCain’s VP will be very telling.
June 8th, 2008 at 2:33 pmRemember most everyone had nearly forgotten Dick (who?) Cheney, when all of a sudden there he was as VP candidate. It almost seemed like a joke at the time…
Valerie Plame for Director of National Security
Hey! Let me play: Jim Comey for AG.
June 8th, 2008 at 2:34 pmWhen I read the title of this tread I jolted a bit.
I mean really, does it take one book for the rest of congress to see the obvious?
Why isn’t scotty put under oath and grilled like a piece of salmon?
June 8th, 2008 at 2:36 pmUnfortunately, a very sick and deadly joke!
June 8th, 2008 at 2:36 pmI wonder if mcnut’s will pick someone like lie’s a lot liverlip’s lieberman..Humm..Blessings…P.S. we need a pool and virtual bet on the pick’s. ? or maybe it should be prick’s..Sorry…lol.
June 8th, 2008 at 2:37 pmDick Cheney as McCain’s Veep? He of the lower approval rating than Bush?
Please say it’s so. McCain/Cheney - shooting fish in a barrel.
Count me in!
June 8th, 2008 at 2:38 pmIt is not enough just to dump the crooks this fall. We have had a series of criminal activities by the Republican party starting with Richard Nixon and continuing to the present day. Watergate marked the beginning of a Republican party that would use the the government to perpetuate its power.
Merely exposing the wrongdoing of the Republican party fails to curb their recidivism. Mild punishment was exacted for the Watergate scandal. Reagan’s traitorous arms for hostages deal under cut a sitting president. His evasion of federal prohibitions of aiding the Contras was a clear criminal violation. Yet, nothing of consequence happened to the perpetrators of the plot. Indeed, the Republicans in Congress and the malefactors testifying during the investigation acted as if they were patriots whose law breaking was justified for a higher good.
We now have a president who has arrogated to himself nearly unlimited power in his perpetual role as commander-in-chief. We see a country in which cherished rights established hundreds of years ago are set aside, “interrogation” tactics adopted by our government that we hkad recognized as crimes against humanity at the Nuremberg trials and the overall corruption of government.
Only concerted action and severe criminal punishment will ever set our country back on its rightful track. How much do you want to believe that we will see it?
June 8th, 2008 at 2:38 pm“Unfortunately, a very sick and deadly joke!”
Little did we know. Which is why we need to scrutinize down to the ‘nth degree McCain and anyone he tries to pile on board his bus, and expose every hazardous detail.
June 8th, 2008 at 2:41 pmbarfly Says:
It’s no secret that large sections of the republican base don’t like him - and some outright hate him.
Well,in each of the past three Republican primaries, roughly a quarter of the vote still went to candidates other than John McCain, even though he is nominee. And it has been a record low on the amount of people voting in the Republican primaries this year.
I smell a landslide for the Democrats this November brewing, in epic proportions.
June 8th, 2008 at 2:42 pmFitzgerald could have nailed each and every one of these clowns on this Plame issue. But it was not politically appropriate at the time. But it will be soon. Bush/Cheney commited a vast array of crimes because they thought there would be a permanent Republican majority, fueled by war.
June 8th, 2008 at 2:43 pmThey are probably more worried that the biggest strawman of all time has been fatally stabbed with a wooden stake in its heart by Scotty McLellan…..the liberal media one.
June 8th, 2008 at 2:47 pmActually, instead of Jim Comey, Hillary for AG!
The emergency-rooms in DC would be swamped from the republican hypertensive explosion!
For some, it would be a sign of the coming of The Beast.
June 8th, 2008 at 2:49 pmGuido the Loving OBGYN,
June 8th, 2008 at 2:49 pmThat works IF the war never ends. And of course we all know, IF America were to win that war, then it ends… and THEY(sic) can’t have that, now can THEY(sic)? The genuine question has to be asked, did the THEY(sic) really think they could achieve victory? Did THEY(sic) even intend to?
Nope. Don’t think so. Nothing that has been flung at the Bush administration has stuck. It won’t over this either.
This is obviously to get out attention off of something else that’s coming down the pike.
June 8th, 2008 at 2:56 pmWayne:I smell a landslide for the Democrats this November brewing, in epic proportions.
We will drink deep of this first batch of Landslide Lager, my friend.
And they can have that warm, flat, failed batch of John McCain.
June 8th, 2008 at 2:58 pmWouldn’t it be helpful for Lieberman to hold some hearings over in the Senate Oversight Committee?? Why does Waxman have to do all the heavy lifting?
June 8th, 2008 at 3:00 pmI hope it is only one pardon per applicant (Libby). Yes there is much that remains un-investigated into this treasonous administration. My plea is that President Obama sees that special prosecutors and inquiries are necessity to the health of the nation. Even after Watergate many of these same characters are engaged in criminal acts against the U.S. We need to find the inner resolve to indict, impeach and prosecute our internal enemies, the Bush cabal.
June 8th, 2008 at 3:04 pm#61 Buck, I think you may be correct..They alway’s create fluff to keep the public busy while something bigger is going on…Blessings
June 8th, 2008 at 3:05 pmBird Brain Tweety and all the other brain dead wingnut talking heads fail to do their job as news commentary by refusing to acknowledge that when Bush and Cheney outed a decorated American Patriot, Valarie Plame, it was a criminal, treasonous act.
Oh they know all right but they are spinning it as a political excuse for the Democrats to win an election instead of a venue for justice.
June 8th, 2008 at 3:10 pmWitch1, exactly.
June 8th, 2008 at 3:10 pmRep. Waxman,
Bar-B-Que time? Let’s get the high-test charcoal going.
June 8th, 2008 at 3:11 pmNow that there’s funny, and I don’t care who you are!
June 8th, 2008 at 3:11 pmUhh, are we seeing the same video? He said, “It will boil through the summer” and that doesn’t spell a revival of the Plame Affair?
Whew! Guess the republic party filters are turned on full tilt today.
June 8th, 2008 at 3:12 pmOnce the Constitution is thoroughly flushed, what would make Tweety, Rush and others think they’ll have a place at the “New Order” table?
June 8th, 2008 at 3:13 pmRoger2,
OK, give us YOUR headline relating to this interview.
June 8th, 2008 at 3:20 pmMcClellan’s Book Will Reignite ‘The Valerie Plame Business’
June 8th, 2008 at 3:25 pm…AND SO IT SHOULD! Amongst so many criminal behaviour of this imoral administration, there is the fact they commited TREASON. They should be indicted! And the pardoning of scooter Libby should go through a review, since it was the criminals pardoning themselves.
“well there gonna just make things rough for everyone who was affiliated with the plame affair”.
Is that how he spelled it in the video?
June 8th, 2008 at 3:30 pmDo you have anything to offer today, r2, or are you just wearily picking apart picayune and pointless perambulations?
*snicker*
June 8th, 2008 at 3:36 pmTP usually alters it’s headers, r2.
June 8th, 2008 at 3:40 pmYou’ve been around here long enough to know that.
What’s your point?
I’m simply pointing out that all you have left is the ability to point that out.
Which is pointless.
June 8th, 2008 at 3:41 pmrogers Says: stupid chit.
**eyes rolling**
June 8th, 2008 at 3:41 pmTreason, Article Three of the US Constitution:
The Plame affair directly gives aid and comfort to enemies of the state in allowing them to go unfettered - the purpose of Brewster Jennings was to gather intelligence to keep them, uhm, fettered :-) - and allowing individuals or countries to attack us (calling war against us).
One could also argue that all of Bush’s policies are a poke in the eye to get other countries to attack us.
June 8th, 2008 at 3:43 pmGiving aid to enemies of the state may also be construed as allowing, ie: enabling, those enemies in an attack on the United States.
June 8th, 2008 at 3:54 pmBeforehand knowledge of the 9/11 attacks, and doing nothing to prevent them , fits that description of aiding an enemy.
The White House lawyers, worried?
But I thought there was no outing because Plame was not covert, that everyone knew she worked at the CIA, and that -even if she was covert- Bush unclassified that information, and that -even if he didn’t unclassify it- the actions of this administration are covered under their executive privilege status.
Right?…. Executive Privilege means never having to say you’re sorry… right? right? Anyone?
/sarc off
June 8th, 2008 at 3:55 pmNevar Says:
I didn’t realize it usually alters quotes to give misleading impressions.
Oh yeah, and not like this is actually going to go anywhere…further misleading.
Roger2,
Project much? Or is this the latest republic party strategy; wishful thinking?
June 8th, 2008 at 3:57 pm“I didn’t realize it usually alters quotes to give misleading impressions”, rogers Says:
Then you’re not really paying much attention, are you?
June 8th, 2008 at 3:57 pmOn autopilot are you?
Just plug in your headjack, sit back, watch the screen?
SHEESH! We’re getting nothing from the trolls today, I tell you, NOTHING!
Maybe the republic party coffers are so low they can’t publish any talking points on the weekend and aren’t paying any overtime.
June 8th, 2008 at 4:01 pmNevar Says:
Then you’re not really paying much attention, are you?
On autopilot are you?
Just plug in your headjack, sit back, watch the screen?
Makes one wonder if Roger’s 2 brain cells will ever meet, bouncing around within that empty cavern.
June 8th, 2008 at 4:02 pmAnd when they do collide, will it make a spark or a splat?
Rogers,
June 8th, 2008 at 4:04 pmre:#73
“there” is a place or condition, “they’re” is a contraction for “they are” and “their” is a plural possessive pronoun.
“And when they do collide, will it make a spark or a splat?”
r2 sez: “…with a wrong and misleading quot.”
There’s your answer, Wayne.
June 8th, 2008 at 4:05 pmAnd you really have no problem with that, huh, a non-story about something that won’t happen, with a wrong and misleading quot.
~rogers says @ 4:01 pm
And what is misleading about the quote?
That ThinkProgress says ‘might’ while Duffy said ‘will’
Wow! We are being misled by a tense!!
June 8th, 2008 at 4:06 pmRogers,
June 8th, 2008 at 4:06 pmWTF is a quot?
r2: “…and you really have no problem with that, huh, a non-story about something that won’t happen, with a wrong and misleading quot.”
It is a story that hasn’t gone away yet.
“The wheels of the gods grind slow, yet exceedingly fine”
June 8th, 2008 at 4:08 pmThe troll would have more credibility if he directed so much outrage, indignation, and energy towards denouncing the gross misrepresentation, misleading statements, and outright lies that this administration has engaged in during their entire time in the White House.
But I won’t hold my breath. Brain-dead trolls.
June 8th, 2008 at 4:08 pmWow! I still say you have got to respect rogers absurd tenacity.
June 8th, 2008 at 4:09 pmWTF is a quot?
It is the lone subatomic particle ping-ponging around in his head.
June 8th, 2008 at 4:11 pmIt is lonely, which is why it refers to itself as plural.
rogers Says:
upside99:
your an idiot to think this will go anywhere, your the one who has wishfull thinking.
Uh huh…
So, HYPOTHETICALLY, if Bush and Cheney DID expose a CIA spy who SPECIALIZED in WMD in Iraq and Iran, in “wartime”,
should they be charged with TREASON against the USA?
Yes or No?
June 8th, 2008 at 4:12 pmSo with the grammatical and spelling errors in your ‘quot’, I am the idiot? HMMMM!
And tell us again why this isn’t going anywhere?
June 8th, 2008 at 4:13 pmAs Duffy said, this “could make things rough for everyone who was affiliated with the Plame affair.”
If there’s any justice in this country it should make things “rough” for the whole damn administration.
http://progressiveworldreview.com
June 8th, 2008 at 4:14 pmLook at the brain-dead troll, arguing over the user of ‘might’ instead of focusing and talking about the outing -by this administration- of a covert agent, in what was essentially political payback.
Poor trolls, working overtime at ignoring the thugish behavior of an administration whose kool-aid drank so willingly, for so long.
June 8th, 2008 at 4:15 pmNevar,
June 8th, 2008 at 4:16 pm“quot”
I could not find it in my Aleut to English dictionary which is always my ultimate source for odd words. Thanks for the heads-up!
quot: Unit of measure used to determine a Bush loyalist’s IQ, as there are not enough decimal points in the IQ scale.
Usage example: roger has a quot of 15.
June 8th, 2008 at 4:20 pm…and since there is more than one of him, do we multiply 15 by 2, or divide in half?
June 8th, 2008 at 4:24 pmI am impressed with WaltTheMan. I would have gien up after reading the first 36 words for snow
June 8th, 2008 at 4:24 pmwhat I meant is sort of a “given”
June 8th, 2008 at 4:25 pmnun takin’…
June 8th, 2008 at 4:27 pmr2: “nothing has happened yet, and there’s no reason to believe it will.”
“The wheels of the gods grind slow, yet exceedingly fine”
Reason enough for me to believe.
June 8th, 2008 at 4:30 pmIt would be nice if the over privileged frat boy sociopath was for once in his life held accountable for his actions.
He used his member ship in the “haves and have mores’ club to avoid services in Vietnam, get into Texas National Air Guard, get expensive pilot training and then cut out on his National Guard unit to go on drunken binges which continued until he was 40 years old.
June 8th, 2008 at 4:30 pmHe ran businesses into the ground while screwing the small stockholder (see Harken Energy)and then made his fortune through political cronyism, tax monies and eminent domain theft of private property (see Texas Rangers/Arlington Stadium).
His political career is filled with slime and questionable activities, but like a Mafia Don those activities were always conducted by layers of henchman to ensure him from being connected to those activities.
But as President he has has pissed on the US Constitution and the rule of law, scammed the American people into a useless war done damge to the US that monetarily might ultimately might exceed a TRILLION DOLLARS, not to mention the loss of life, the trashing of American foreign policy, global prestige and respect.
HE CANNOT BE ALLOWED TO GET AWAY WITH THIS FOR THE SAKE OF FUTURE GENERATIONS.
HE MUST BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR HIS ACTIONS FOR THE FIRST TIME IN HIS MISERABLE, PARASITIC, SELF-CENTERED, USELESS LIFE.
Gregor Samsa,
June 8th, 2008 at 4:31 pmShouldn’t that be 10**(-15)or one femtoQ?
meant? Wow this is getting out of control
June 8th, 2008 at 4:31 pmHow can you argue with this “logic”?
I guess R-2 thinks that we will always be in Iraq, since nothing much has happened to bring the conflict to a close, so there’s no reason to believe it ever will.
Are the DKos trolls this lame? How about HuffPo? Should TP be embarrassed at the level of trolls we get, or is this a pretty much standard across the web for the RNC?
June 8th, 2008 at 4:37 pmThe Plame issue shows again Rove’s trademark planning:
1) Take the other side’s strength and turn it into a weakness;
2) Project your own side’s failings/shortcomings onto the other side;
3) Insert “bright shiny objects” as distraction for truth-uncoverings:
How could Valerie Plame Wilson possibly be of any value to the CIA? Clearly, a beautiful blonde could only hope to rise to the level of paper-filer.
We’re keeping you safe ’cause we know best; the other side is filled with weak pansies, unwilling to battle for democracy.
Look, Iran means to do us harm; we must act preemptively to save you.
June 8th, 2008 at 4:40 pmSo, we are to take your word over Duffy’s, right? How many years have you been covering politics for an international (though somewhat right-leaning) news magazine?
Michael Duffy
Assistant Managing Editor
TIME Magazine
Michael Duffy is TIME’s assistant managing editor and has been at the center of the magazine’s coverage of politics and presidents for ten years.
“Michael Duffy first appeared on Washington Week in 1987. He has been at TIME since 1985 and has covered the Pentagon, the Congress, the White House and national politics. TIME’s Washington Bureau chief from 1997 to 2005, Duffy is also the co-author of two books: THE PREACHER AND THE PRESIDENTS: BILLY GRAHAM IN THE WHITE HOUSE (with TIME’s Nancy Gibbs) and MARCHING IN PLACE: THE STATUS QUO PRESIDENCY OF GEORGE BUSH (with TIME’s Dan Goodgame). Born and raised in Columbus, Ohio, Duffy is a 1980 graduate of Oberlin College and he lives with his wife and their three sons in suburban Maryland.”
June 8th, 2008 at 4:43 pm#115 ralph,
June 8th, 2008 at 4:52 pmIt’s very standard… V E R Y
Their proud to be Loyalist Christians(R)
Rogers,
June 8th, 2008 at 4:56 pmJune 8th, 2008 at 4:47 pm
Richard Dawkins is an Atheist. Did you check with your masters before placing this comment as well as the links?
Rogers,
June 8th, 2008 at 4:58 pmPlease define ‘ther’.
Hi rogers. What’s happening?
June 8th, 2008 at 4:59 pmAs well as ‘until’.
June 8th, 2008 at 4:59 pm124
June 8th, 2008 at 5:01 pm‘until’ s/b ‘untill’. Does that mean un-furrow the field?
r2: “The meme for blind faith secures its own perpetuation by the simple unconscious expedient of discouraging rational inquiry”.-richard dawkins.
No doubt.
Example: organized religion
r2: “…no, you prove to me it will…one guys words don’t mean anything.
nothing has happened yet, and there’s no reason to believe it will.”
You are the one initiating the terms prove, reason, and believe in your post.
My quotation refers to the concept of karma, which is a constant exercise of rational inquiry.
June 8th, 2008 at 5:03 pmKarma infers cause and effect, which is readily proven with relatively simple experiments.
“Blind faith” has no relevance to anything we have been discussing to this point.
How about whether or not it is a crime to say in the State of the Union Speech that Saddam was trying to obtain uranium from Africa? It was known eleven months prior that the document was a bad forgery. How about who forged the document? Ditto the aluminum tubes in the SOTU. It was known eleven months prior that they were for conventional weapons.
June 8th, 2008 at 5:04 pm“Last week, Waxman sent a letter to Attorney General Michael Mukasey, requesting that the Justice Department turn over FBI interviews of President Bush and Cheney that were conducted during the CIA leak scandal investigation. In the letter, Waxman cited “new revelations” from McClellan’s book, including the claim that “[t]he President and Vice President directed me to go out there and exonerate Scooter Libby.””
Roger2, you may not consider Waxman a politician, but he does hold down one of the most powerful chairs in the Senate Subcommittee structure (Oversight Committiee). But I do think he might count as a ‘politician’ looking at this.
C’Mon Dude, you are making this too easy for us!
June 8th, 2008 at 5:04 pm“Blind Faith” has no relevance to anything we have been discussing to this point.
But you gotta admit they were a great band.
June 8th, 2008 at 5:06 pmI think Rogers needs to retake his English classes, from first grade upwards. And some more classes on critical thinking.
Or maybe he needs to disown whoever has been home schooling him.
June 8th, 2008 at 5:09 pmKeith,
I was thinking the same thing!
Was Stevie Winwood’s greatest gig, ever! Along with Eric Clapton, Ginger Baker and Rick Grech.
June 8th, 2008 at 5:10 pmupside99,
June 8th, 2008 at 5:12 pmWaxman is a member of the House of Representatives (D-CA).
Is Rogers am dumm?
June 8th, 2008 at 5:13 pmThanx Walt, My Bad!
But he IS a politician, right?
June 8th, 2008 at 5:14 pmA tenth grader recently expressed in a very exuberant way her “pyschedness” to be present at a Clapton show about a week ago. It was cool that she was so into it
June 8th, 2008 at 5:15 pmrogers Says:
no politician has hinted at further action…therefore, untill then ther isn’t any.
By Richard B. Schmitt, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
June 4, 2008
WASHINGTON — House investigators pressed their case Tuesday for access to interviews that a special counsel conducted with President Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney in the CIA leak case.
Rep. Henry A. Waxman (D-Beverly Hills) said in a letter to the Justice Department that the transcripts were needed to address what he described as troubling new questions about the role of the White House in divulging the identity of then-CIA operative Valerie Plame in 2003.
from:
http://www.latimes.com/ news/ nationworld/ nation/ la-na-cialeak4-2008jun04,0,195629.story
Rogers, you are a dumbass
June 8th, 2008 at 5:15 pmupside99,
June 8th, 2008 at 5:16 pmYes, you got that part correct.
Walt,
Whew! Glad I didn’t blow the whole comment!
June 8th, 2008 at 5:18 pmupside99,
June 8th, 2008 at 5:29 pmDon’t worry, everyone is allowed at least one mistake in a lifetime. Watch out from now on!
Keith @129, maybe he just Can’t Find his Way Home.
June 8th, 2008 at 5:34 pmWe must have Creamed rogers…
June 8th, 2008 at 5:37 pmtom Says at #6:
Let us remember as well what Valerie Plame was working on when she was outed… the Iranian nuclear issue…
That is the most overlooked point in the whole Plame affair. It was the raison d’etre`, right along with dismissing Wilson’s claims of no WMDs in Iran.
June 8th, 2008 at 5:46 pmThey got a two-for-one with that attack.
Sorry, that was nevar at #5 who said it.
June 8th, 2008 at 5:47 pmOT…But worth thinking about.
There is one simple step that can be taken to ensure party unity by the end of this month:
Hillary Clinton needs to attack McCain. Hard. Relentlessly. Mercilessly.
She needs to hit him on the economy, on national security, on SCHIP, on equal pay, on Webb’s GI Bill, and any gaffe he makes between now and the end of June.
Now, Clinton attacking McCain won’t unify the party.
But McCain attacking Clinton will.
http://dailykos.com/ storyonly/ 2008/ 6/ 8/ 151954/ 3212/ 594/ 532308
June 8th, 2008 at 5:48 pmGood idea, Badger.
June 8th, 2008 at 5:50 pmSo what’s all this about “moving forward” which implies that we will sweep this under the rug — Bush&Co committed high treason (not to mention the subsequent war crimes) and for that they deserve the highest punishment.
June 8th, 2008 at 5:50 pmThere is no statute of limitations applicable here — they can and should be indicted, tried, convicted and hanged.
As Duffy said, this “could make things rough for everyone who was affiliated with the Plame affair.”
ROUGH? ROUGH?!
We want trials for treason. That’s a cut above ROUGH!
June 8th, 2008 at 5:52 pmWell Nevar… it’s not my Idea. (see link)
But it is my position that it is EASIER to recognize a good idea, than it is to HAVE a good idea. I agree, this is a GOOD Idea.
June 8th, 2008 at 5:55 pm“We want Justice!
June 8th, 2008 at 5:56 pmWe want Thunderdome!”
It was your good idea to post the link…
June 8th, 2008 at 5:57 pmThat is, of couse, unless Duffy is meaning like, a gauntlet of hot coals and broken glass, ground up razors, run barefoot with 49 homeless veterans each with a birch switch having at the perps as they make their miserable way down the line…
June 8th, 2008 at 6:05 pmNevar Says:
——————————————————————————–
“We want Justice!
We want Thunderdome!”
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June 8th, 2008 at 6:27 pmSure but do we have enough of those really big rubber bands?
I’m sure we could find a few liberal bungee jumpers out there to help out.
June 8th, 2008 at 6:31 pmI can provide not only one but two feral children but that is more of a Raod Warrior sort of thing
June 8th, 2008 at 6:37 pmThey could grow up to become Dr. Dealgoods assistants…
June 8th, 2008 at 6:39 pmdbadass,
June 8th, 2008 at 6:42 pmDefine “Raod”.
It could be humorous to recast Beyond Thunderdome with current political figures…
June 8th, 2008 at 6:43 pmHillary, of course, as Auntie Entity…
Cheney as Iron Bar…
If nothing, I am impartial.
June 8th, 2008 at 6:43 pm“Raod”. That special feeling you feel inside after a really cool hair band does one of their sentimental ballads. It is only really raod if they have a cool light show and your finger is burning from the flame of your lighter which is held lit aloft for reasons unknown
June 8th, 2008 at 6:46 pmThat’s why you’re TheMan.
June 8th, 2008 at 6:47 pmraodical, man…
June 8th, 2008 at 6:48 pmNevar:
June 8th, 2008 at 6:51 pmThis is a very cool idea. I lack the tech skills to edit such a piece but I would be happy to collaborate on the design and production aesthetics of such a piece. Two men enter, one man leaves…
LOL, I can assure you the ONLY thing they are concerned about is the fact that the TRUTH is coming out, now its a mad rush to COVER IT UP. Typical Bush POlitics!
JT
June 8th, 2008 at 6:53 pmUltimate Anonymity
Lumpy: I am so gonna kick your sorry ass!
June 8th, 2008 at 6:53 pmdbadass,
June 8th, 2008 at 6:59 pmBe careful, you could cause brain damage as his head will get in the way.
Somebody scrape R2 off the floor! Ouch!!!
June 8th, 2008 at 7:03 pmLivelonger,
That’s what happens when you bring a water pistol to a gun fight. His quiver is EMPTEE!
June 8th, 2008 at 7:08 pmTwo men enter, one man leaves…
My tech skills don’t extend beyond still photos and typing on this keyboard, dbadass…
It was just a notion to have a little fun with here on a hot sultry Sunday afternoon… having vanquished all the trolls…
I’m going to do a change-up, Cheney can be Master, and George is Blaster.
June 8th, 2008 at 7:10 pmNever mind they broke the law and the constitution–they MIGHT GET CAUGHT. They have no morals, they have no ethics, and neither do the many trolls posting here (many of whom I don’t have time to read).
If somebody–anybody–in this administration has to go to jail, I will cheer. We wait patiently for the Dems in congress to do their jobs.
June 8th, 2008 at 7:17 pmUpside99, ironically, it’s R himself that identifies his problem:
“The meme for blind faith secures its own perpetuation by the simple unconscious expedient of discouraging rational inquiry”.-richard dawkins.
I mean, Bush, Cheney, Rove etc, they were and never will be wrong for Roger. Rational inquiry does not exist for these people.
June 8th, 2008 at 7:20 pmdbadass Says:
Nevar:
This is a very cool idea.
Here’s another: Speaking of Waxman and his letters; next time we see Wayne A. Schneider, let’s suggest he do one of his exquisite renditions on the Beatles “Taxman”….
June 8th, 2008 at 7:23 pmLivelong,
Exactly! If all of the 23%ers left standing took eye exams, they would fall to the far side of Mr. McGoo. (Are we thinking 1400/1400?).
That would make them legally blind, and that might be all that can be said that is legal about BushCo.
June 8th, 2008 at 7:24 pmDamn Nevar, Here I am just being amused by swatting at flies while you are actually thinking. My head is hung in shame.
June 8th, 2008 at 7:30 pmOops, I meant that to read 20/1400 in #174. My second screw-up today. Must be this multi-tasking I am doing.
June 8th, 2008 at 7:33 pmYou its been a long weekend when the dead hookers refuse to stop piling up.
June 8th, 2008 at 7:48 pmOld Hack at 1:41 pm
June 8th, 2008 at 7:51 pmDan Rather’s blowing the doors down!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97SzcumnYdc
Thanks so much for this link! I also found a transcript at:
http://www.truthout.org/ article/ dan-rather-slams-corporate-news-conference
Clumpy Drunky sucks.
June 8th, 2008 at 8:19 pmSo about this LumpyDunky problem…Either you are with em. or you are against em. What say ye? Bring it On…
June 8th, 2008 at 8:44 pmI’ve been flagging it, with a little note than says either “spam” or “unwarranted solicitation”.
June 8th, 2008 at 8:49 pmI have done that as well, but he seems to have paid off the TP spam police. Heh heh
June 8th, 2008 at 9:00 pmI have suggested a general ass kicking, threatened the weird big ball from the Prisoner, and in general attempted to taunt em. Is it time to reverse things and start screwing with whatever dumb shit that link leads to?
June 8th, 2008 at 9:04 pmMaybe it’s just TP, trying to pay the Bills now that the cash cow dropped out.
June 8th, 2008 at 9:11 pmNevar:
June 8th, 2008 at 9:16 pmDo you really need to poke RHF when they are down? Apologies in advance.
I’m actually afraid I’ll get banned for that one….
June 8th, 2008 at 9:24 pmdbadass,
June 8th, 2008 at 9:25 pmLumpyDunky is merely riding the weekend slump. Come Monday, it will be taken care of. At least I hope so. I consider it strange that the political blogs take a rest when their clients are actually available - not at work.
TP is now a shill for a website anonymity spammer?
FCUK YOU TP.
June 8th, 2008 at 10:29 pmNow look what I’ve done.
June 8th, 2008 at 10:37 pmI was being sardonic, DNFP.
Chill.
as the 5th grade teacher at the school I work at would sing, “Cry me a river!”
June 9th, 2008 at 12:49 ammake things rough for Cheney? What, through angry, no, I’m sorry furious letters?
June 9th, 2008 at 12:50 amTIME TO PROSECUTE YOUR LEADERS AMERICA !
Just add balls, dignity & follow the magic footsteps…
DYING REGIME 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNuefnjwbJ0
“The tyrant, who in order to hold his power, suppresses every superiority, does away with good men, forbids education and light, controls every movement of the citizens and, keeping them under a perpetual servitude, wants them to grow accustomed to baseness and cowardice, has his spies everywhere to listen to what is said in the meetings, and spreads dissension and calumny among the citizens and impoverishes them, is obliged to make war in order to keep his subjects occupied and impose on them permanent need of a chief.” - Aristotle
June 9th, 2008 at 8:11 amJinJin:
June 9th, 2008 at 8:59 amAre you a tool?
Ms.Joanne…
June 9th, 2008 at 8:05 pmThe Bush Administration’s MOST egregious act was STEALING the first election! Without that, nothing else could have followed…everyone, keep your eyes and ears “peeled” so to speak…they aren’t done stealin’, lyin’, and ruinin’ our country yet…and time is short…there is nothing to which they WON’T stoop..