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House Dems call for special counsel investigation into torture.

In a letter to Attorney General Michael Mukasey yesterday, 56 House Democrats “urged the Justice Department to appoint a special counsel to examine whether top Bush administration officials may have committed crimes in authorizing the use of harsh interrogation tactics against suspected terrorists.” The lawmakers, including House Judiciary Committee Chairman John Conyers (D-MI), “cited what they said is ‘mounting evidence’ that senior officials personally sanctioned the use of waterboarding and other aggressive tactics against detainees in U.S.-run prisons overseas.”




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42 Responses to “House Dems call for special counsel investigation into torture.”

  1. konchster Says:

    It certainly altruistic to think that The Shrub's boy is going to approve a plan where the boss and his minions face actual prosecution. Impeachment was the answer and that never had the numbers to win


  2. Wayne Says:

    Ohhhh, Another letter. That will really get them.

    A definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.


  3. southrnbelle Says:

    IT'S ABOUT GODDAMN TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    THEIR EXIT WALK NEEDS TO BE A "PERP" WALK!!!!!!


  4. Who Misspoke Today? Says:

    Yup, Mukasey will get right on it.

    NOT.


  5. wldj Says:

    The only difference between mukasey and gonzales is mukasey is a better liar. He will do absolutely nothing about this letter except reject it. He sold his soul and conscience when he took the job and is now just another tool to hide the crimes of this horrible Administration. He doesn't view his job as serving the public and protecting the Constitution but to serve and protect the worst, most corrupt and criminal Administration in our history.


  6. unbelievable Says:

    7 months, one week, 5 days to go...

    Not that the next (Obama) Administration will be perfect or fix all of our problems on Day One, but at least the destruction will end and many things will start moving in a better direction just with the Bush Regime out of the picture.

    They should hold off on this until John Edwards is AG, and then, perhaps there just might be justice after all. But, if they do wait, then the American people will say that they are doing nothing. And it can't hurt the Presidential race to have these sort of things out there, as a regular reminder of what McCain actually represents.


  7. WaltB Says:

    Very doubtful that anything will happen until the new administration takes over, but this and many more things like it are certainly wake up calls that life afterwards won't be pleasant.


  8. SWBob Says:

    56 votes will not do it and bush/cheney know it. This is a waste of time. While it is appropriate, this mis-administration has not been held accountable by congress and instead has supported when necessary to give bush/cheney what they wanted and symbolically opposed when it wasn't as critical but politically it felt good.


  9. Nevar Says:

    Mukasey:

    "Special Counsel? Not right now, OK?
    I'm pretty busy working on Dick and George's severance package... I'll get back to you..."


  10. po Says:

    what a farce. "May have committed crims"?!? Give me a break. If what we "know" right now doesn't convince Congress that the administration committed at least one, if not several hundred, high crimes or misdemeanors, nothing you learn through yet another investigation is giong to do so. Pull the trigger or shut the hell up. Those are Congress' choices at the moment. The American People are quite tired of the charades.


  11. ralph the wonder llama Says:

    Wayne Says:

    Ohhhh, Another letter. That will really get them.

    Beat me to it.

    I can see it now, one of Mukasey's aides goes through the mail, and puts this letter from House Democrats into the same pile as the new credit card offers and the circulars from The Home Depot.


  12. linda Says:

    this investigation should be outsourced to the european human rights commission. there isn't anyone associated with the department of justice or on capitol hill that i would have an ounce of confidence in any investigation they would conduct.


  13. Donkeykick Says:

    I remember when it was the USA telling other countries to stop this.

    Oh, the good Ole days. (Sheesh!)


  14. Zooey Says:

    Sweet jeebus, I'm so sick of this ineffective posturing. Conyers has turned into a joke.

    We get frustrated when they do nothing, and then they write their strongly worded letters -- and it only gets worse.


  15. Badger Says:

    linda Says:

    there isn’t anyone associated with the department of justice or on capitol hill that i would have an ounce of confidence in any investigation they would conduct.

    56 house democrats agree with you...that's why they want a Special Prosecutor.

    Mukasy will never allow it, but it will make some ammunition for the campaign.

    What the Republican's should really be worrying about is this:
    http://dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/6/8/32530/31654/843/532075

    A one-time top aide to former Oklahoma Rep. Ernest Istook pleaded guilty Monday to a conspiracy to defraud the House as part of the Jack Abramoff lobbying scandal.

    John Albaugh admitted in federal court in Washington that he accepted meals and sports and concert tickets, along with other perks, from lobbyists in exchange for official favors
    During the eight years Albaugh worked as chief of staff to Istook, the congressman accepted tens of thousands of dollars in campaign contributions from Abramoff and his associates.
    The Albaugh plea calls into question a central finding of McCain’s Final Report that the only problem was a few bad apples. The truth was that Jack Abramoff was part of a corrupt system of lobbying that is destroying our government. Jack Abramoff was not an aberration, he was normal in the Washington created by the Republican Party.

    John McCain should be forced to explain himself and why he placed artificial limits on his Abramoff investigation.
    The 742,000 pages of documents being suppressed by John McCain should be released.

    Dengre deserves a pulitzer prize for his work on this.


  16. Keith H. Says:

    They 'urged' the Justice Department.
    L . O . effing L
    When their system is set up so that their positions are above the law, criminals naturally take their positions.
    Seems pretty obvious to me.


  17. Paul W Says:

    In a letter to Attorney General Michael Mukasey yesterday, 56 House Democrats “urged the Justice Department to appoint a special counsel to examine whether top Bush administration officials may have committed crimes in authorizing the use of harsh interrogation tactics against suspected terrorists.”

    Just add this to the growing list of things Mukasey needs to, but won't do. If the Democrat Pelosi won't do her job what are the chances that a Republican minion will do his?

    http://progressiveworldreview.com


  18. hellinabucket Says:

    There's no time line on justice. Everyone knows the Justice Dept. won't act on these now. But there time is short. There will be justice.


  19. hellinabucket Says:

    Time limit. not time line. d'ooooh.


  20. dbadass Says:

    TheRight:
    To what do you attribute high gasoline prices?
    10,000,000?


  21. Nevar Says:

    "The National Average for a gallon of gas hit $4.00 this morning. The poor and senior citizens are suffering."

    This is a direct result of the policies, foreign and domestic, of the TheRight


  22. barfly Says:

    The National Average for a gallon of gas hit $4.00 this morning. The poor and senior citizens are suffering.

    Like you guys give two hoots about the poor and seniors. Dry those croc tears, you ain't fooling anyone.


  23. dbadass Says:

    TheRight in the interest of the suffering of the poor and seniors, I invite you to join in the movement toward an improved healthcare system which will provide affordable quality care and coverage for all. I know I am happy to chip in on behalf of others and I sense the deep concerns you have for those whom have less and struggle.


  24. ralph the wonder llama Says:

    I like how TheTroll derides Democratic ineffectiveness in their investigations (which is true) but states that these multiple investigations are "useless". They're not useless, although they fall far short of what they should achieve.

    If nothing else, they keep the focus on the criminal activity of BushCo, which makes it easier to tie Grampy McSame to a corrupt as well as a failed administration and all but assure an Obama administration come '09.

    TheTroll has also implied, several times, that the Democratic leadership in Congress is responsible for rising gas prices, although it has never made clear HOW they are responsible. Am I expecting too much from a particularly dense troll?

    I think that's likely.


  25. dbadass Says:

    Always one step ahead of me ralph. I was just about to invite TheRight to move up one and share with us their "informed" comments as to how the democrats are responsibly for the nation's failed energy policies. BTW: is it okay to just use ralph. In general I only like to address individuals by their given names but I am also a poor keyboardist


  26. ralph the wonder llama Says:

    dbadass: "ralph" is fine. I find myself struggling sometimes with the same issue. For example, I often want to call joe cantwell just "joe". But it's tricky since login IDs are not necessarily proper names. Still, I like the easy familiarity of "ralph".


  27. tarazan Says:

    Bush,Cheney,C.Rice,Wolfowitz,and Rumsfeld :
    " We don't use torture,we only use 'enhanced techniques'" !!


  28. RUCerious Says:

    Yeah, and Mucky will appoint a special counsel, sure.
    Maybe Donald Duck. He's special.


  29. McWars Says:

    Don't forget to pick up your paycheck and run your errands, dems.


  30. dbadass Says:

    Thompney, you make a poor jester but that is just my opinion.


  31. House of Roberts Says:

    Hopefully a President Obama and a Dem Congress can enact some reforms to allow more Congressional oversight of the Justice Department should this kind of ethical conflict ever occur again. I know that breaks down the wall between Separation of Powers, but we can never again have an Executive Branch able to block the necessary investigations that lead up to a possible impeachment.


  32. ralph the wonder llama Says:

    Yeah, dbadass, that last Thompney bit was kinda lame. But he shows promise as a troll parodist.


  33. TAGG Says:

    Let's play "What if?"...http://www.tagg-theangrygayguy.com


  34. Nevar Says:

    No hurry....


  35. ralph the wonder llama Says:

    TheTroll must not have any defense of BushCo's torture policy, because he launched into some weird attack on the Canadian health care system.

    Bizarre.


  36. OneCitizen Says:

    In the event a special counsel is appointed (and I seriously doubt that there will be), my senator will have some serious 'splainin' to do about his role in the Bush Administration's use of torture.

    ...long before "waterboarding" entered the public discourse, the CIA gave key legislative overseers about 30 private briefings, some of which included descriptions of that technique and other harsh interrogation methods, according to interviews with multiple U.S. officials with firsthand knowledge.

    With one known exception, no formal objections were raised by the lawmakers briefed about the harsh methods during the two years in which waterboarding was employed, from 2002 to 2003, said Democrats and Republicans with direct knowledge of the matter. The lawmakers who held oversight roles during the period included Pelosi and Rep. Jane Harman (D-Calif.) and Sens. Bob Graham (D-Fla.) and John D. Rockefeller IV (D-W.Va.), as well as Rep. Porter J. Goss (R-Fla.) and Sen. Pat Roberts (R-Kan).

    Jay Rockefeller is the only reason I'm not voting straight ticket Dem this year because I am ashamed to say that he's from my state. But his not standing up and doing the right thing about torture isn't the only problem I've got with the Chairman of the Senate Select Defense Intelligence Oversight Committee.

    That one exception was not Sen. Rockefeller.

    His failure to stand up then was even worse than the lack of judgment he showed when he scrawled that little letter to cover his own political backside over Bush's wiretaps in 2003, sticking it in his desk instead of actually directly telling them that it was the wrong thing to do. And instead of at least raising a stink about it in the Senate beck then (perhaps behind closed doors) as the Chairman of the oversight panel, he now wishes to grant retroactive immunity to companies who knew damned good and well that what they were doing was illegal!

    By the way, Larry Franklin, the former Bush administration official who is in jail for spying is also from West Virginia making Senator Rockefeller his congressional representative. I seriously doubt that Bush's "justice" department ever offered Mr. Franklin a lighter sentence for more information about possible complicity by other members of the Bush administration. But given its history of covering the Bush administration's glaring problems, is it any wonder that Sen. Rockefeller never used his position and rank on the Defense Intel Oversight panel to see why Mr. Franklin never produced any collaborators?

    Then, of course there's his committee's total lack of oversight regarding the Bush administration officials "outing" of Valerie Plame. Hadley, Wolfowitz, Cheney, Addington, Feith, Rice, Rove, Libby - none have ever been held accountable for their complicity in the loss of CIA covert agent. Nor have they issued any public report of what the loss of her assets cost the US intelligence community, or even any recommendations of how to prevent it from happening again.

    Finally, his statement in the press regarding the Senate Intelligence Committee's Final Phase II Reports on Prewar Iraq Intelligence reveal exactly what he believes his role to be when he concluded:

    "Deputy National Security Advisor Steve Hadley and Deputy Secretary Paul Wolfowitz failed to keep the Intelligence Community and the State Department appropriately informed about the meetings."

    Senator Jay Rockefeller is my Congressman. He was the only Democratic congressman from West Virginia to vote for letting Bush have the keys to the world's most powerful war machine, even voting over the vehement opposition of Senator Byrd, his senior, on the floor of the Senate. He was on the Senate defense intel oversight committee at the time.

    It should also be noted that Sen. Rockefeller was also on the Senate Select Defense Intelligent Oversight Committee on 9/11/01, and even when the 911 commission issued its scathing report (p420):

    "Congressional oversight for intelligence - and counterterrorism - is now dysfunctional."

    Did Hadley and Wolfowitz forgot to read that to Rockefeller and his vaunted "oversight" panel as well?


  37. Max-1 Says:

    http://www.humanrights-geneva.info/US-quits-Human-Rights-Council,3184
    US quits Human Rights Council

    Carole Vann/Juan Gasparini/Human Rights Tribune - The news that the US has completely withdrawn from the Human Rights Council spread like wildfire Friday afternoon (June 6) through the corridors of the Palais des Nations in Geneva. There was general consternation amongst diplomats and NGOS. Reached by phone, the American mission in Geneva neither confirmed nor denied the report. Although unofficial, the news comes at a time of long opposition by the Bush administration to the reforms which created the Human Rights Council in June 2006. Washington announced from the beginning that the US would not be an active member but its observer status would mean that it could intervene during the sessions. To date even this has rarely happened.

    “We don’t understand the reasons nor the timing of the decision”, said Sebastien Gillioz of Human Rights Watch. “There have even been some positive signs during this Council. For example Belarus was not re-elected as a member in 2007 nor Sri Lanka this year”.

    ...(continued at link)

    Not only does the law not matter to this administration, neither does human Rights.

    Torture IS the law to these scum!

    .


  38. dbadass Says:

    Yet I haven't met a Canadian woman who had her child anywhere but a hospital. What gives?


  39. House of Roberts Says:

    Why is that 'pukes use examples of other countries to argue against anything this country needs? Don't they have the confidence in the USA to believe we can do it better than any other nation on earth? I think they actually encourage American failure by doing this.


  40. dbadass Says:

    oops. I used the b word to mean complain. House of Roberts' point is well made. I just lack the energy to retype my entry


  41. ralph the wonder llama Says:

    TheRight Says:

    It is very hard to educate you regressives. Very hard indeed.

    You might try using sound facts and logic sometime. We progressives generally respond to that, but those elements are seldom to be found in an argument from a regressive like yourself.


  42. sacopenapa Says:

    Where is the WAR CRIMINAL, Rice? She is lying low trying to avoid accountability! RiceMustGo.com !!!! Rice, you are a LIER and a WAR CRIMINAL!



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