McCain website posts commentary calling Hillary Clinton a ‘B*tch.’
McCain website posts commentary calling Hillary Clinton a ‘B*tch.’
Recently, Sen. John McCain has been reaching out to Sen. Hillary Clinton’s (D-NY) supporters by lavishing praise on Clinton. But a “news article” posted on McCain’s website may undermine those efforts. The “article,” which is actually a reader’s comment made at Andrew Sullivan’s Daily Dish, refers to Clinton as “the B*tch“:
Fred Thompson is good but pointless. He clearly doesn’t want to be in this race. His wife must really want to be First Lady. Paul is hopeless. Huckabee is at least sincere, but I just feel that nominating him is tantamount to giving away the store. He’s a big-government liberal with the compassion of Jimmy Carter and a nanny-state busybody of the highest order. I’d rather have the Bitch. At least she’d balance the budget. You know, like her husband did.
This isn’t the first time McCain has been associated with such insulting descriptions of Clinton. In 2007, after a supporter asked him “how do we beat the b*tch,” McCain replied “that’s an excellent question.” (HT: Americablog)
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Well, he did call his wife a c*nt.
This news should solve the problem of getting the Clinton Feminists to vote for Obama...
June 9th, 2008 at 11:22 amWhere is Bill-O with his fake outrage?!!?
June 9th, 2008 at 11:22 amI'm sure this will go over very well with Hillary's female supporters. They have already seen what a friend they have in McCain through the names he calls his wife in public, the way he disposed of his ex-wife, and his lack of support for Lilly Ledbetter. This is just icing on the cake.
Granted, this news article was written by somebody else -- not McCain. But why put it on your website if you don't agree with it?
June 9th, 2008 at 11:23 amHillary supporters.....you still want to vote for McGrampa now?
June 9th, 2008 at 11:25 amun ~ Exactly, you beat me to it.
Anyone who would publicly call their wife the c word deserves to have it shoved up his jowls daily. Or even in private, for that matter. Gotta wonder if McIIIrd has his own private trowel for slathering on his makeup. That pasty complexion can't be for real...
June 9th, 2008 at 11:30 amWhen will Hillary start actively campaigning for Obama? Because I'm not waiting for the media to stop reporting on this misogynist's grilling capablities.
June 9th, 2008 at 11:31 amHey - way to "elevate the campaign rhetoric," Grampy!
NOT.
June 9th, 2008 at 11:32 amHas anybody ever called Andrew Sullivan 'The Mick'?
June 9th, 2008 at 11:32 amWow, and he used the somewhat generic term in a positive light for her, and her husband…is that it?, how about trying to criticize the damn article?.
Uhh, explain to us how ANY use of that expression can be "positive"? Are you that much of a sexist?
WHEW!!
June 9th, 2008 at 11:32 amrogers_rogers debate_dodgers,
You're one observant little bastard, aren't you, you son of a whore!
(see? I'm addressing you in "a positive light")
June 9th, 2008 at 11:33 amYou mean we should ignore the FACT that he called her a "B*tch"? Are you really that blind and pathetic?
June 9th, 2008 at 11:33 amConservatves think so little of women that they probably don't understand why this is so offensive. It's not like you can call a wealthy white man anything of equal inflammation.
America is the ONLy industrialized nation without Equal Rights Laws. As a result (studies have proven a direct correlation), we have a higher murder rate, more people in jail, higher unemployment, higher infant mortality, higher teenage pregnancy rates, higher STD rates, and higher disease rates than all other Industrialized Nations.
Do we really want to perpetuate that by electing another rich, old, white man who doesn't get it?
June 9th, 2008 at 11:33 amrogers:
I guarun-f--king-tee you that if Barack Obama was on the campaign trail and someone referred to Laura Bush as a "b1tch" and he didn't say anything against it you'd be up in arms right now saying "Lynch that n-----r, he insulted a white lady. He's a sexist! How dare he call her that."
June 9th, 2008 at 11:35 amI believe maybe 5% of Hillary supporters will ultimately vote for McCain, the people who only cared about the election to see Hillary run. I'm comforted by the new voters offsetting any minor damage.
Hillary must do all that can be done to support Barack, and draw blue-collar workers to punch his name on the ballot.
June 9th, 2008 at 11:35 amRUCerious Says: Gotta wonder if McIIIrd has his own private trowel for slathering on his makeup. That pasty complexion can’t be for real…
I think the word is gelatenous... Ugh. Makes my uterus hurt.
June 9th, 2008 at 11:35 amJohn McCain is one of only a few Senators to earn a Zero percent lifetime rating from Planned Parenthood’s Action Fund, and he only scored that high because the organization doesn’t have a lower rating…. Let’s look at his record:
He voted against requiring health care plans to cover birth control (3/22/03).
He voted against comprehensive, medically accurate sex education (7/25/06).
He voted against international family planning funding (3/14/96).
He voted against funding to prevent teen and unintended pregnancies (3/17/05).
He voted against public education for emergency contraception (3/17/05).
And he voted against restoring Medicaid funding that could be used for family planning for low-income women (3/17/05).
If after looking at all that, a woman would vote for John McCain must also remember his most recent quote in February. McCain dismisses equal pay legislation, says "women need more ‘training and education.’"
That would be the clincher, he basically is saying a woman deserves less than a man. What a complete neanderthal...
June 9th, 2008 at 11:38 amRoger, you ass must be sore from yesterday's pounding. Are you sure you're up for it again today?
June 9th, 2008 at 11:39 amYOU....ARE.....A.....MORON.....
June 9th, 2008 at 11:43 amFreedom Rebel Says: McCain dismisses equal pay legislation, says “women need more ‘training and education.’”
Excellent post!
I'm not trying to insult the men here, because you know you're all expections :), but back when I was in architecture, I have to say that the women in my field were not only highly educated, but more often the best (most reliable, knowledgable, and hard-working) team members to work with. Yet, they (and I) were always paid less than the men.
June 9th, 2008 at 11:43 amAnd here's more of the upbeat story!
McIIIrd didn't exhibit any sign of his onsetting dementia today! Yet.
June 9th, 2008 at 11:44 amrogers:
No, my good chum, the issue here is the fact that, as you right-wingers are always so happy to do to the left, by having this statement on his website he is effectively saying it's ok to just run around calling Hillary a b1tch, he's totally fine with it.
The difference between this and the attacks on left-wing blogs from the right, is in the case of the blogs the offending comments were left by people not associated with the blog itself, and as there are hundreds if not thousands of comments a day, it's impossible to remove all the offensive ones.
In McCain's case, they CHOSE to put this up on their website. They saw the word "b1tch" and said, "Eh, no biggie." This is coming from McSame, the candidate who said he wasn't going to tolerate personal attacks on Obama or Clinton coming from his campaign. He was going to run a civil campaign, remember?
Not so much now then, eh?
June 9th, 2008 at 11:46 amApparently you and your fellow GOPig extremists "think" it's appropriate to call a woman a "b*tch". How telling.
Once again....
YOU.....ARE.....A.....MORON
June 9th, 2008 at 11:46 amWell when you have to work twice as hard as your externally "equipped" colleagues in order to get in the same but less-paid position as them it means you...well...work twice as hard? haha.
June 9th, 2008 at 11:48 amHey Mr Rogers! Is it a wonderful day in YOUR neighborhood?
BTW, how's that awesome B!tch of a wife of yours?
June 9th, 2008 at 11:49 amrogers, I bet your b*tch of a mother, really made a great meatloaf, that b*tch! And I'm calling your b*tch of a mother a b*tch as a generic term in a positive light.
June 9th, 2008 at 11:49 amrogers: I hope all is well with your b1tch mother! That b1tch sure did raise herself a keeper! Man, what a b1tch she must be, to have raised such a splendid and useful member of society. Do you have daughters? I hope they are b1tches of the same caliber as your b1tch mother!
June 9th, 2008 at 11:50 amRogers, what is your B*tch of a wife cooking for dinner tonight for you and your B*tch of a daughter?
June 9th, 2008 at 11:52 amI have to wonder what psychological affliction Roger2 has that causes this constant and consistent self-flagellation from these inane and stoo-pid posts.
Oh yea, called masochism.
June 9th, 2008 at 11:52 amb1tch b!tch bltch b[tch b|tch b)tch...
Ok, now I'm just trying to drive TP's filters a little cwazy
June 9th, 2008 at 11:53 amAfter all, Black is the new B*tch. Eat it, McCaininites.
June 9th, 2008 at 11:53 amliberal traitor Says: Well when you have to work twice as hard as your externally “equipped” colleagues in order to get in the same but less-paid position as them it means you…well…work twice as hard? haha.
Pretty much.
I used to have a joke with my female co-workers about it being even more unfiar because we didn't have wives to do our laundry or cook our meals like our male counterparts. Could you imagine what we'd have done if we didn't have other obligations? :D
June 9th, 2008 at 11:54 amindeed,
My parents have pretty much switched roles for the most part. My mom was stay at home till my dad retired, now that he's retired she's gone back to work and he does all the chauffeuring all that.
Depending on who I end up marrying someday and what she wants to do, I envision things being a tad more 50/50 than the "traditional" mindset.
June 9th, 2008 at 11:56 amrogers Says:
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he wasn’t even really attacking her when he said it…it would only be worth distracting from the WHOLE ARTICLE if it was “c”.
June 9th, 2008 at 11:39 am
Do you use the b-word as a substitute for whispering sweet nothings into your lover's ears ?
See how well that would work out , you colossal imbecile..............
June 9th, 2008 at 11:56 amActually, rogers probably hates women so much because he has vajina envy (misspelling for spam filter)
June 9th, 2008 at 11:57 amrogers Says:
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This is hardly worth ignoring everything he actually said, even assuming its bad to some degree….the term could’ve been worse.
June 9th, 2008 at 11:54 am
So
Anything in the lexicon of words that isn't the worst word to use in describing someone is perfectly acceptable to you ?
Okay , fine , d0uchebag...........
June 9th, 2008 at 11:58 amYes, you are right, he could have said he preferred the raving, whiny, communist Be-otch.
roger2, were you born this stoo-pid or did your mom raise you this way?
June 9th, 2008 at 11:58 amrogers_rogers debate_dodgers Says:
he wasn’t even really attacking her when he said it…it would only be worth distracting from the WHOLE ARTICLE if it was “c”.
Wow, rogers, you little prick, only one or two grammatical errors in your post! Nice job!
(In case you don't see it through my "lightened response", the praise doesn't fit if it's preceded by name calling)
June 9th, 2008 at 11:58 amrogers Says:
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This is hardly worth ignoring everything he actually said, even assuming its bad to some degree….the term could’ve been worse.
Still deflecting for McCain, eh? You just don't get it do you?
The outrage would be the same if he had used the word "cvnt" and you know it.
The issue is not the guy's article, he can write whatever he wants, freedom of speech, press, and all that.
The issue is that McCain, Mr. "I'm going to run a civil campaign" blah blah blah, has on his website something that refers to one of his possible opponents at the time as a b1tch. They CHOSE to put this up. If it were just some random commenter and they removed it, no big deal, that's what moderators are for. They CHOSE to put it up. CHOSE.
Do you get it now? Probably not.
June 9th, 2008 at 11:58 amPersonally, I believe that locker room vernacular does not belong in a political campaign, especially in pursuit of the most powerful office on Earth.
June 9th, 2008 at 11:59 amWhen an American questions what went wrong with American you only need to look at how woman are treated and talked about by men. We are about to honor Father's Day and what we've seen and heard from men shows there's not much to honor. Father's have shown wives, sister, Mothers and daughters such disrespect it clearly shows America has lost it's Values. There are no Christian Values as all those don't follow God's word in Honor your Mother and Father. Religion is used for votes as Freshman Senator Obama used race. I look forward to the day Americans reach out for help from the same woman they attacked. McCain calls his wife names that can't be printed and he's cheered for it.
June 9th, 2008 at 11:59 amIt's just attention upside99. It's not that uncommon, especially in those with little or no self esteem. rogers reminds me of a b*tch dog that adopted us. She had been beaten by a previous owner and slunk around on her belly desperately seeking attention, or relevancy. She would puke on the back step just for attention.
rogers is that b*tch reincarnated.
June 9th, 2008 at 11:59 amrogers Says: This is hardly worth ignoring everything he actually said, even assuming its bad to some degree….the term could’ve been worse.
You insensitive pig. No, it couldn't have been worse. It was derogatory. Period. That is NOT okay. Ever.
June 9th, 2008 at 11:59 amliberal traitor - will you marry me?
LOL
June 9th, 2008 at 12:01 pmnanlichi,
You are right, but it still amazes me that he/she/it could want this much abuse and show this much stoo-pidity, in public, no less.
Just like what the republic party is doing, maybe.
June 9th, 2008 at 12:02 pmI worked for three years for a group of about 15 Architects.
June 9th, 2008 at 12:03 pmI worked closely and for a long time on a very large project in that office with a particular Architect who was the only woman there that was licensed.
She was the best of the bunch.
And Mr. Rogers continues to put the other foot in the bucket of excrement, exclaiming, "Hey, it ain't so bad, it's nice and warm!"...
June 9th, 2008 at 12:03 pmSure, I'm free. How's Saturday work for you? haha
June 9th, 2008 at 12:04 pmKeith H. Says: I worked for three years for a group of about 15 Architects. I worked closely and for a long time on a very large project in that office with a particular Architect who was the only woman there that was licensed.
She was the best of the bunch.
And I bet she was paid the worst.
One firm where I worked, after teh Accountant retired, she wrote a letter to the Owner and threatened to turn him in for vastly underpaying his femail employees who worked more hours. I got a HUGE raise that year, bu because I saw the billing rates of my co-worker, I saw that it still wasn't as much as the men...
June 9th, 2008 at 12:07 pmrogers:
He, and the article itself, are fine in terms of a 1st amendment issue. That guy is still an idiot for writing that, and he's still wrong on pretty much everything he writes in there (except the part about Hillary balancing the budget like Bill did), but he is still an incorrect idiot that is well within his rights.
The issue is, and has always been since this thread started, with the McCain campaigns usage of this.
Are we done now? You are like that one problem child in every class room that soaks up 90% of the teacher's time.
June 9th, 2008 at 12:07 pmrogers Says:
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So I assume he, and the article itself is otherwise fine,then, ok.
June 9th, 2008 at 12:05 pm
Why don't you tell us ?
It was written by your idiotic brethren..........
June 9th, 2008 at 12:08 pmlibTraitor, he's more like the first grader who craps his pants, then enjoys the smell, while all around him, the other kids are going, ewwwwwwwwwww...the stench!
June 9th, 2008 at 12:09 pmliberal traitor Says: Sure, I’m free. How’s Saturday work for you? haha
Saturday? Pencil me in :D
June 9th, 2008 at 12:10 pmMe! Me! Pay attention to me!!!
I'll bite the head off a chicken for you! I will piss on your shoes, call your wife a b*tch, anything, just recognize me please....
Pathetic.
June 9th, 2008 at 12:10 pmLiberal,
It is interesting that roger2 is the best the republic party can do any more. I thought they had more but looks like their quiver is empty.
I do miss the more challenging dialogue we used to have here.
Oh well.
June 9th, 2008 at 12:11 pmJohn McCain has no respect for women, like a lot of Democrats. The difference is McCain will destroy the world and Obama will try not to. Naomi Klein was rather hard on Obama during her speech at the National Media Reform conference (which I attended) but she was right -- there is a lot of work to do with Obama and his comments on Iran have been alarming. But at least we can work with him and prod him in the right direction. John McCain is not someone who can be told what to do except by Dick Cheney and Karl Rove. And Obama respects women and people in general. I see no respect for anyone from McCain.
June 9th, 2008 at 12:15 pmmcCain website posts commentary calling Hillary Clinton a 'B*tch'.
Well, that's ok, after all, McPutz IS an asswhole.
June 9th, 2008 at 12:16 pmI assume when Dan Rather was having his issues with the authenticity of this Bush memo you were there yelling at the TV "skip the authenticity of the memo, how about trying to criticize the content". Right? Cus I was. In that case the memo may have been fake but what it said was all true. Of course you ignored that. Much like the McClellan book, how about the right trying to comment on the content of the book rather then the motive of the writer? Can you spell hypocrisy? Do these thoughts/defenses only occur to you when a Republican is being questioned?
June 9th, 2008 at 12:17 pm______
unbelievable Says:
Conservatves think so little of women that they probably don’t understand why this is so offensive. It’s not like you can call a wealthy white man anything of equal inflammation.
America is the ONLy industrialized nation without Equal Rights Laws. As a result (studies have proven a direct correlation), we have a higher murder rate, more people in jail, higher unemployment, higher infant mortality, higher teenage pregnancy rates, higher STD rates, and higher disease rates than all other Industrialized Nations.
Do we really want to perpetuate that by electing another rich, old, white man who doesn’t get it?
June 9th, 2008 at 11:33 am
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You could start changing that with your fellow libs right here on TP. Were these comments directed at E.D. Hill as offensive as the B*tch comment? Where is the feminist outrage at these comments? The hypocrisy is evident.;)
Marcus Aurelius Says:
I’m thinking of a word. It’s a four letter word. The last three letters of the word are u-n-t, and it’s not aunt.
June 9th, 2008 at 9:58 am
Klem Kiddilehopper Says:
E D didn’t take the warning serious enough when she was younger not to stand with her legs apart! She was warned that it was un-lady like to stand with her legs, like in a “Larry Craig type standing stance,” that whatever brains she had would fall out!
She didn’t take the warning serious though because it’s obvious her brains fallen out!
June 9th, 2008 at 10:16 am
Exit Stage Left Says:
E D is an appropriate name for that wench. If I had to sleep with her I’d definitely be checking with my doctor to see if a free sample of cialis was right for me :)~
June 9th, 2008 at 10:30 am
DRxJ Says:
1) Who is E.D. Hill? Does the acronym stand for Erectile Dysfunction?
June 9th, 2008 at 10:30 am
vat694848 Says:
June 9th, 2008 at 12:17 pmI can think about one thing when it comes to a fist, and E.D.— it’s not a punch.
June 9th, 2008 at 10:56 am
BTW Idiot, What is to debunk? He called her "the B*tch".
Were you always this obuse or did you have to work at it?
June 9th, 2008 at 12:18 pmunbelievable Says:
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liberal traitor Says: Sure, I’m free. How’s Saturday work for you? haha
Saturday? Pencil me in :D
So which do you prefer, outside or inside ceremony. Also, I hope you don't mind, but I'd like to have a Reverend from the Holy Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster come to officiate.
Anyway, glad I struck a good chord for my gender today :)
June 9th, 2008 at 12:18 pmrogers...... derogatory terms like b1tch are not "generic" terms. Only Republican scum would agree with that.
June 9th, 2008 at 12:20 pmThey are meant to suppress people, shut them up, keep them in "their place". McCain is a racist and a misogynist and it's OBVIOUS by his own words. McCain IS Republican SCUM. And I consider anyone who supports Neocons for president at this point a traitor to their country.
Hey UL,
June 9th, 2008 at 12:21 pmWe're not campaigning for president now are we? Not to mention that we've all been called far worse by those on the right.
unbelievable Says: And I bet she was paid the worst.
I ended up being pretty good friends with her and we would have lunch on occasion. She never talked to me about her salary. The rate of pay was kept a secret around there and so was whether or not anyone was getting a pay raise. I was her 'support' staff doing drawings and of course was paid a lot less than the Architects. She left there not long after I did. I doubt if they could have paid her enough to stay. Some of the Architects in there were the slimiest of the slimy.
June 9th, 2008 at 12:21 pmrogers Says
June 9th, 2008 at 11:30 am
Wow, and he used the somewhat generic term in a positive light for her, and her husband…is that it?, how about trying to criticize the damn article?.
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First -- "b*tch" isn't a "somewhat generic term", it's an insult used against women, particularly women who are smart, strong, express their opinions freely, etc., and the term is generally used when people can't best the woman in an argument any other way.
Second, there's no way to use that kind of insult in a "positive light". Anyone who would see this item's use of the term in a positive light would probably have no problem with the phrase "good little (N word)" to describe a black person in a positive light.
As far as criticizing the article -- I could, but since it's just a reader comment to Andrew Sullivan from six months ago, I hardly see the point. The issue I see here is that McCain seems to be carrying this offensive tripe proudly on his website, and "why?" is a fair question.
June 9th, 2008 at 12:27 pmDr. Hussein Matt Says:
Hillary supporters…..you still want to vote for McGrampa now?
Obama supporters - including yourself - said the same thing, and Obama never chastised them. Surrogate dirty politics is the same slimy politics as usual. Obama and his followers have a long way to go, and a lot of apologies, before MOST of the serious Hillary supporters will follow through for Obama. Me, I'm boycotting Obama in November for his vote stealing of FL&MI. You might win over Hillary supporters, but pretending you aren't as inflammatory as McCain after the last few months of proof to the contrary is a losing strategy...
June 9th, 2008 at 12:27 pmliberal traitor Says: So which do you prefer, outside or inside ceremony. Also, I hope you don’t mind, but I’d like to have a Reverend from the Holy Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster come to officiate. Anyway, glad I struck a good chord for my gender today :)
Definitely outside.
I'm an official member of FSM! Perfect!
You're definitely one of the good guys. Don't let anyone ruin that. Not all women are nice gals...
June 9th, 2008 at 12:28 pmmisshusseinmolly Says:
First — “b*tch” isn’t a “somewhat generic term”, it’s an insult used against women, particularly women who are smart, strong, express their opinions freely, etc., and the term is generally used when people can’t best the woman in an argument any other way.
Yet you Obamaheads used that term to describe Hillary for months - why the sudden pretense of a conscience? Obama won, so now you can pretend to have morals again? Get over yourself! You're no different than McCain in your hatred for Hillary and your willingness to be sexist!
June 9th, 2008 at 12:28 pmI suppose you would have preferred the c-word.
June 9th, 2008 at 12:31 pmNeocon trolls, the most advanced rationalizing animal.
June 9th, 2008 at 12:32 pmPossibly. But he's not running for POTUS. And while there may have been comments on an Obama site that used that term, they weren't handpicked by Obama/staff and placed on the site.
June 9th, 2008 at 12:33 pmKeith H. Says: I doubt if they could have paid her enough to stay. Some of the Architects in there were the slimiest of the slimy.
Why I am now a teacher. :D
Pay in education is generally transparent, and with the shortage of women Instructors in Science and Technology related fields at the college level, I'm actually paid as well as I was as an Architect - but without the 70 hour weeks, crazy clients and insane deadlines.
Hopefully your friend started her own firm. Seems the only way for women to get ahead in male-dominated professions if they aren't willing to act like men.
June 9th, 2008 at 12:34 pmIs it just me or is rogers a little b*tch? Oh ant upright left, go Cheney yourself.
June 9th, 2008 at 12:34 pmrhf is at least a near relative neocon troll.
June 9th, 2008 at 12:34 pm______
liberal traitor Says:
Hey UL,
We’re not campaigning for president now are we? Not to mention that we’ve all been called far worse by those on the right.
June 9th, 2008 at 12:21 pm
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You need to go back and read unbelievable's post. She said conservatives, not conservative politicians, think little of women. She then said many of the ills of our country are due to lack of an Equal Rights Amendment. That's not limited to just the behavior of conservative politicians.
June 9th, 2008 at 12:34 pmEven had your comment been vaild, that doesn't excuse vile comments directed by libs against women who are conservative. Such comments are either acceptable or they are not, regardless of the politics of the women at whom they are directed. Someone calling you a bad name doesn't excuse the hypocrisy.
I respect your support of Hillary and also respect her. She is now putting the good of the country and her gender ahead of her own desires to win the nomination (and how exactly did Obama "steal FL and MI?)
Or are you so up tight about the female vs. black issue that you would rather have a sexist like Johnny Boy in office? Now, that would do a LOT for your cause!
June 9th, 2008 at 12:36 pmSo RHF, what took you so long. Some of us didn't like Hillary because her campaign was so "Republican" in nature. And as a lifelong feminist I can assure you sexism wasn't the issue.
June 9th, 2008 at 12:36 pmTell me where this was first reported on thinkprogress?
Citizens for McCain is an organization within the McCain campaign for people who put country before political party and support the candidate for President who has a proven record of bipartisanship.
I have worked with John McCain for many years in the U.S. Senate and know from experience that he can unite Democrats, Republicans and Independents like no one else in this country. He did it in the United States Senate and he can do it as President of the United States.
Thank you for your willingness to help me expand this new organization. Together, we will make history.
Joe Lieberman
http://citizens.johnmccain.com/
June 9th, 2008 at 12:37 pmrepublicans hate facts Says: Yet you Obamaheads used that term to describe Hillary for months - why the sudden pretense of a conscience? Obama won, so now you can pretend to have morals again? Get over yourself! You’re no different than McCain in your hatred for Hillary and your willingness to be sexist!
Remember - we don't like it when the Cons lump us all together either.
Many of us were disappointwd by Hillary, but never talked negatively about her. She cracked the glass ceiling. Many of us respect and honor that, even if we couldn't vote for her.
June 9th, 2008 at 12:37 pmONE: Uptight left,
June 9th, 2008 at 12:38 pmWhere does my question of the acronym E.D. become degrading? It was a simple question, not derogatory. Also, just for the record, because I didn't click on the link, I thought E.D. Hill was male.
TWO: Republicans hate btruthful's venus,
When have I ever called Hilary a b*tch?
You've generalized, now let's get specific. I've never called her that, but have periodically called her (and Bill, who I highly respect), Republican Lite.
I'm sorry that your candidate stepped down. She was a viable candidate, but made some mistakes during her campaign, that cost her the presidency. Time to move on. Accept reality.
(Oh, and if at anytime you disagree with me, feel free to call me a c*nt.)
No more holding back on ageist comments in regards to this little creep, which is what McCain is.
McCain is a doddering, yellowed, withered, man who jettisoned his first wife because he wanted to stay 40 forever.
He is an OLD MAN.
June 9th, 2008 at 12:38 pmRewriting history doesn't change it.
June 9th, 2008 at 12:39 pmAnd I've heard Hillary supporters say awful things about Obama, and Hillary never chastised them either. Also you seem to forget things like "He's not a Muslim...as far as I know." Any thoughts on that little gem from Hillary?
Dirty surrogate smears were part and parcel of Hillary's campaign as well dude, she is by no means clean or innocent. NONE OF THEM ARE. Obama's vote-stealing? Yeah, because his was the final and only word on that. Hillary signed onto the same rules he did, and when they didn't work in her favor she wanted to just toss them aside.
Obama is the nominee, get over it. If you want to not vote (and therefore be a moron) then fine, that is your right. Personally, I would have voted for Hillary even if she had "won" because she's a damn sight better than McCain, I would hope Hillary supporters would be equally as mature. I can see you're not, but I think plenty of your fellow Hillary-ites (not meant to be derogatory, honest) feel differently than you do.
Have the same class your candidate did, concede, move on from the past, and help elect Obama.
June 9th, 2008 at 12:40 pmThank upright left, I missed that rant.
I definitely meant Conservatives in general, and not just the ones who are our, ahem, "Representatives".
June 9th, 2008 at 12:41 pmYou are a liar. I never once called Hillary a "b*tch". Try again, you desperate pathetic loser.
June 9th, 2008 at 12:42 pmrepublicans hate facts Says
June 9th, 2008 at 12:28 pm
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misshusseinmolly Says:
First — “b*tch” isn’t a “somewhat generic term”, it’s an insult used against women, particularly women who are smart, strong, express their opinions freely, etc., and the term is generally used when people can’t best the woman in an argument any other way.
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Yet you Obamaheads used that term to describe Hillary for months - why the sudden pretense of a conscience? Obama won, so now you can pretend to have morals again? Get over yourself! You’re no different than McCain in your hatred for Hillary and your willingness to be sexist!
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I challenge you to find any instance where I EVER referred to Hillary as a "b*tch". I do not use that term when referring to women (or anybody, for that matter), as I find it extremely sexist.
Furthermore, I have kept my criticism of Hillary to the issues and the way she has conducted her campaign. As have most of the posters here. There have been some here who have hurled gratuitous insults at her without any substance, but they are in the minority. I guess those are the only posts that leap out at you, and from those, you have extrapolated that we all spent our time calling Hillary a "b*tch" 24/7.
And lastly, preferring Obama over Hillary is not necessarily a sexist position, just as prefering Hillary over Obama is not necessarily a racist one. I am a proud feminist who would be delighted to see a woman president, but I refuse to vote for a candidate for that reason alone.
By the way, since we are speaking of insulting terms for women, you're a fine one to talk. You called me a "c*nt" (you called Zooey that also), and you never apologized for it, so as far as I'm concerned, you have no moral high ground yourself.
June 9th, 2008 at 12:43 pmSo RHF, you have no problem with the racism of Clinton's supporters but you're all bent out of shape by the sexism you see. How very "white" of you.
June 9th, 2008 at 12:44 pmThere is something wrong with people who compare the Clinton and Obama campaigns and think that the Obama people fought dirty. I guess those people would think McCain was a great guy.
June 9th, 2008 at 12:46 pmYou’re definitely one of the good guys. Don’t let anyone ruin that. Not all women are nice gals…
It's already happened more times than I can count...ugh. Anyway...
UL, what do you mean MY comment? When did I say anything remotely sexist?
My point was that this is a comment section on a website, and regardless of how reprehensible some of it may be, people can say whatever they want to here. However, that kind of language has no business in anything being spoken by someone who is trying to get our highest elected office, nor by anyone associated with their campaign.
June 9th, 2008 at 12:47 pmBeautiful comment, miss molly You should copy and save it. I'm sure it will be needed in the future.
June 9th, 2008 at 12:53 pm#1 unbelievable,
June 9th, 2008 at 12:55 pmIs this why he's called Senator McC*nt
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DRxJ Says:
ONE: Uptight left,
Where does my question of the acronym E.D. become degrading? It was a simple question, not derogatory. Also, just for the record, because I didn’t click on the link, I thought E.D. Hill was male.
TWO: Republicans hate btruthful’s venus,
When have I ever called Hilary a b*tch?
You’ve generalized, now let’s get specific. I’ve never called her that, but have periodically called her (and Bill, who I highly respect), Republican Lite.
I’m sorry that your candidate stepped down. She was a viable candidate, but made some mistakes during her campaign, that cost her the presidency. Time to move on. Accept reality.
(Oh, and if at anytime you disagree with me, feel free to call me a c*nt.)
June 9th, 2008 at 12:38 pm
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I assumed you saw the video before you commented. My mistake. You'll have to explain this one: Republicans hate btruthful’s venus.
June 9th, 2008 at 12:56 pmI never said anything about you calling names.
Hillary was not my candidate. I'm voting for Obama. As for calling you a c*nt, it wouldn't have quite the same effect as when it is directed at a woman, now would it? And that was the point of unbelievable's post and my response. She commented on conservative disrespect for woman and its detrimental effects on society. I simply pointed out that there is ample evidence of the same thing on TP, but the outrage over it seems to be lacking. Apparently it's ok if you're a lib. Just seems the least little bit hypocritical.
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The B*tch = link not found.
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June 9th, 2008 at 12:58 pmHey Upright Left,
I have to say I'm a little less willing to take you seriously since your comments appeared on a rightwing attack blog dedicated to attacking TP moments after you first posted them...
More than a little suspicious...
June 9th, 2008 at 12:59 pmPrytania,
June 9th, 2008 at 1:00 pmIf you're not going to pay attention and keep up with the rest of the class (i.e. when someone uses IRONY) then please just STFU.
Scratch my post #99.
Duh, just saw the update.
Written by none other, Andrew Sullivan.
Does he toss puppies too?
June 9th, 2008 at 1:01 pm#
Prytania Says:
June 9th, 2008 at 12:59 pm
How's your b*tch of wife and daughter doing today? According to the reich-wing, it's perfectly acceptable to call women a "B*tch". So, how are your B*tches today?
June 9th, 2008 at 1:02 pmRHF, if you don't plan to vote (for Obama), why do you continue to post here? What goal do you hope to achieve?
June 9th, 2008 at 1:02 pmPrytania has a looooooooong and well established obsession with me because I continuously make her look stupid and inept.
June 9th, 2008 at 1:04 pmupright left:
June 9th, 2008 at 1:07 pmrepublicans hate facts is a poster who has gone by other names, such as btruthful and valiant venus grew from uranus.
republicans hate btruthful's venus was my play on words for his name.
republicans hate facts, although quite intelligent, is also quite belligerent, and attacks using the word c*nt with anyone he disagrees with.
So, the second question was addressed him, not you.
Prytania lives in an imaginary world and has imaginary internet(s) conversations. You are sooooo obsessed with me. Talk about being a "loser"....apparently your mirrors are broken in your double-wide. You need help. I'm not kidding. You are sick.
So, you haven't answered my question, how is is B*tch wife and daughter?
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liberal traitor Says:
UL, what do you mean MY comment? When did I say anything remotely sexist?
My point was that this is a comment section on a website, and regardless of how reprehensible some of it may be, people can say whatever they want to here. However, that kind of language has no business in anything being spoken by someone who is trying to get our highest elected office, nor by anyone associated with their campaign.
June 9th, 2008 at 12:47 pm
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By "your comment" I meant when you said "we aren't running for president." That doesn't make it ok for those who made comments degrading to women. You surely don't mean only those men who are in the public eye have to be respectful to women? I hardly think that is the point unbelievable was trying to make. The English language is quite rich enough to express your disagreement and/or disgust with a woman without making sexually degrading remarks.
June 9th, 2008 at 1:15 pm"B*tch" will be considered a complement compared to what people here use to describe republicans. Hypocrites!
June 9th, 2008 at 1:19 pmGetting in on this late, but....
rogers Says:
This is hardly worth ignoring everything he actually said, even assuming its bad to some degree….the term could’ve been worse.
Yeah, gee, Rogers - the term could have been worse! McZombie could have called Hillary a c**t, just like when he used that term of endearment on his lovely wife, Cindy...
Good grief. You Repukes ARE backwards, aren't you??
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liberal traitor Says:
Hey Upright Left,
I have to say I’m a little less willing to take you seriously since your comments appeared on a rightwing attack blog dedicated to attacking TP moments after you first posted them…
More than a little suspicious…
June 9th, 2008 at 12:59 pm
I haven't posted anywhere but here today, so you'll have to direct your suspicion elsewhere.
June 9th, 2008 at 1:22 pmHmmm, I wonder where on earth RHF saw an Obama campaign site that used the B word?
And PrtyyBoy, I purposefully used the B word with regard to Mr. Rogers wife, as he's just fine with that, it's not a big deal.
June 9th, 2008 at 1:26 pmThank You, you may go.
Reich-wingers DO NOT deserve respect or dignified comments.
June 9th, 2008 at 1:30 pmSo we're going after blog commenters now? How is this different from Bill O cherry picking blog comments to decry progressive blogs.
Of course the degree is different. This post doesn't call McCain a Nazi or anything, but the principle is the same.
Must be a slow news day if there is time for this kind of post.
June 9th, 2008 at 1:49 pmPrytania Says:
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liberal traitor Says:
Prytania,
If you’re not going to pay attention and keep up with the rest of the class (i.e. when someone uses IRONY) then please just STFU.
Prytania has a looooooooong and well established obsession with me because I continuously make her look stupid and inept.
June 9th, 2008 at 1:04 pm Recommend (0) | Report Abuse
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You threatened my wife awhile back. When I informed you she had cancer, you apoligized, and then proceeded to call her anyway. You are such a loser. You make yourself look stupid everyday Matt. I don’t have to do much. You do just fine. Hows your mommy? It must have been hard having a republican mommy who didn’t pay attention to you.
June 9th, 2008 at 1:11 pm
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Because they're too busy playing Stepford Wife , their kids come out all fu(ked up (gaze into a mirror for a perfect example of that , turdburglar) ; better , yet , look at the Pretzeldent's own 2 daughters , who are almost as worthless as yourself.
June 9th, 2008 at 1:49 pmAre you new around here concern boy? Just wanted to let you know you are free to leave at any time you're unhappy with the topics TP choses.
June 9th, 2008 at 2:01 pmI have a pdf of the page if anyone wants a copy.
June 9th, 2008 at 2:14 pmAll you C&Lers who spent the last six months accusing Hillary of everything under the sun and vilely calling her all kinds of dirty names and trying to force her out of the race are NOW so offended that someone on the McCain site called her a name. Welcome to democracy 2008. You want only her votes, and you will get some, but many of her supporters are bitter. I have decided to leave the democratic party after 36 years. I almost did so in 2000 after I saw how many in the party treated Al Gore. I decided to stick it out then, but this is way too much. Obama may may win the White House, and if he does you can all thank your corporate media. After all, they ran a splendid campaign for him.
June 9th, 2008 at 2:26 pmWrong Blog.
June 9th, 2008 at 2:29 pm"Flip" McCain had the article on his website. "Flop" McCain took it down. I wonder who of the two rogers et al plan to vote for.
June 9th, 2008 at 2:30 pmOK wrong blog but I also encountered those sentiments here on TP.
June 9th, 2008 at 2:35 pmozma10 Says:
OK wrong blog but I also encountered those sentiments here on TP.
Yeah, and I saved a lot of money on my car insurance too!
Dude really; if you are going to insult a very large group of educated people, please do so by getting the blog correct. You made an incredible fool of yourself. You should slink away quietly and we will forget you were ever an American. What a dolt!
June 9th, 2008 at 2:46 pmRightOfAttila Says:
“B*tch” will be considered a complement compared to what people here use to describe republicans. Hypocrites!
We call you traitors, for supporting a traitor. Big deal.
June 9th, 2008 at 2:52 pmBTW, LIEbermann is now performing terrorist fit jabs
June 9th, 2008 at 3:09 pmHoly Shiite! Is republicans hate facts posing as ozma10 on Crooks and Liars???
June 9th, 2008 at 4:28 pmHard to tell without the ROTFL! repeats and the occasional "c" word.
Thank you for proving my point. This is exactly the type of vitriolic commentary I was talking about. "A large group of educated people" should be able to invite comments without this sort of hate and name calling. Maybe even discuss something.
June 9th, 2008 at 5:02 pmMe, I’m boycotting Obama in November
for his vote stealing of FL&MI.
proof. that "hate" is pure bullshite.
and, yea, hate, I called her a b!tch... she deserved it too...
what are YOU gonna do about it? huh?
stoopid idjit.
i USED to think you were intelligent... know better now.
that was one of the most disingenuous thing you've said...
June 9th, 2008 at 10:04 pm