Testifying at today’s Senate Judiciary hearing on coercive interrogation techniques, former FBI special agent Jack Cloonan deplored coercive interrogations for being “not effective” and said the perception that the U.S. tortures detainees has “helped to recruit a new generation of jihadist martyrs”:
Based on my experience in talking to Al Qaida members, I am persuaded that revenge in the form of a catastrophic attack on the homeland is coming; that a new generation of jihadist martyrs, motivated in part by the images from Abu Ghraib, is, as we speak, planning to kill Americans; and that nothing gleaned from the use of coercive interrogation techniques will be of any significant use in forestalling this calamitous eventuality. [...]
If I were the director of marketing of Al Qaida and intent on replenishing the ranks of jihadists, I know where my first piece of marketing collateral would be. It would be a blast e-mail with an attachment. The attachment would contain a picture of Private England pointing at the stacked naked bodies of the detainees at Abu Ghraib. This picture screams out for revenge and a day of reckoning will come.
Cloonan also repeatedly emphasized that the “rapport-building” method of interrogation is “more effective, efficient, and reliable” than coercive techniques — regardless of some conservatives’ determination to mock this method.
I hope these people realize Bush is just LOOKING FOR AN EXCUSE to bomb Iran. And they could hand it to him on a silver platter.
June 10th, 2008 at 8:10 pmPredictably, when this attack comes under an Obama Administration, the right wingnuts will scream it's a subversive attack by the president's Muslim buddies.
June 10th, 2008 at 8:14 pmCertainly FBI agent Cloonan's statement has merit. Also, as long as the United States stupidly insists on maintaining its policy in the Middle East by keeping its troops in that region and providing support for Israel at the expense of the rights and needs of the Palestinian and Lebanese people, then more of the younger generation of terrorists will be plotting more violence against the United States military in the Middle East. Barack Obama does not help matters when he demonstrates such fealty to the Israeli cause when he grovels at the feet of AIPAC and by doing so ends up alienating so many countries in the Middle East.
June 10th, 2008 at 8:16 pmHey TP, how about replacing the RECOMMEND icon with a FIST BUMP?
June 10th, 2008 at 8:17 pm#3 Erroll Says:
Certainly FBI agent Cloonan’s statement has merit. Also, as long as the United States stupidly insists on maintaining its policy in the Middle East by keeping its troops in that region and providing support for Israel at the expense of the rights and needs of the Palestinian and Lebanese people, then more of the younger generation of terrorists will be plotting more violence against the United States military in the Middle East. Barack Obama does not help matters when he demonstrates such fealty to the Israeli cause when he grovels at the feet of AIPAC and by doing so ends up alienating so many countries in the Middle East.
You are exactly right. That is one of the reasons Bush is having problems with the Saudis on getting them to produce more oil and lower the price. They are not happy with him right now over the treatment of the palestinian people.
June 10th, 2008 at 8:23 pmPutting Bush, Cheney, Rummy et. al. on trial for war crimes would take away a lot of the recruitment.
June 10th, 2008 at 8:39 pmCompleting the loop. It's what they fear/pray for. Validation for their criminal behavior, and an excuse for continuing it.
June 10th, 2008 at 9:02 pmFBI special agent predicts ‘catastrophic attack’ in ‘revenge’ for torture, Abu Ghraib.»
That's ridiculous...impossible
I've seen "24" and that never happens to Jack Bauer.
June 10th, 2008 at 9:07 pmSo here is the thing JinJin:
June 10th, 2008 at 9:08 pmI offered a reasoned solution to this problem. You have chosen to ignore my kind suggestion. So how about I now feed you your testicles?
>We must be nice to the Muslims
>so they can be nice to us.
Wow I sense your dripping with sarcasm. How about just not going out of our way to make enemies and bury ourselves in debt to china all for the sake of trying to keep our boot over the neck of the entire middle east?
June 10th, 2008 at 10:02 pm>We must be nice to the Muslims
> so they can be nice to us.
So in your book HillyBilly, anyone we don't sexually torture
June 10th, 2008 at 10:05 pmis someone we are being "nice" to, right?
That's stupid logic.
They actually hate us more?
Just ridiculous.
June 10th, 2008 at 10:18 pmSo Billy. Your my buddy... Right?
June 10th, 2008 at 10:28 pmTime for the trashing of a FBI agent. they will attack him. It's their MO for not assimilating.
June 10th, 2008 at 10:36 pmSo the FBI is celebrating the attacks on America now?
Why does the FBI hate America?
Waterboard 'em all, I say!
/sarc off
June 10th, 2008 at 11:01 pmAll part of the White House Propaganda. Now the terrorist wont blame the American people it's the FBI and CIA who tortured and ordered the torture of prisoners. If anyone wanted to attack the US for that reason they would have done it long ago. The only attack the US has is from the Law Makers and the White House. McCain needs all the help he can get. FBI Director Muller might be indicted for the crimes he committed.
June 10th, 2008 at 11:27 pmWhadya mean "coercive interrogation techniques are not effective"? They give the chimp-in-chief serious wood when he reviews them on video, don't they? Better than pickles ever did, I'll bet.
June 10th, 2008 at 11:49 pmAmen, marlow. I think you've nailed it.
They DO get off on it. And it's sick and disgusting.
Crushing the balls of kids. CHILDREN!
Indict. Try. Convict. Hang. I used to say imprison until CJ showed me the light to the whole children thing.
Our cowboy president deserves cowboy justice.
June 11th, 2008 at 12:10 am.
Dear George W. Bush,
Is we safer... YET?
.
June 11th, 2008 at 1:00 amSITE MONITOR @5. SPAMMING
Can you just permanently ban this nuisance?
June 11th, 2008 at 1:24 amI was foolish enough to click on JinJin's site a few weeks ago when it first appeared.
Since then my e-mail spam has quadrupled. I know it's my fault, but I thought I'd pass this on for FYI so it won't happen to anyone else.
I've asked to have him banned, but to no avail.
June 11th, 2008 at 1:30 amWoodguy, how does it know your email?
June 11th, 2008 at 1:45 amSo we get a true assessment - torture creates dedicated outrage and desire for revenge . . . and delivers no usable intell. Thought that was made clear centuries ago during the Inquisition.
(As for JinJin . . ban the ass/domain, and as a good rule NEVER click a link unless it's a known Progressive site - phishermen should be neutered to avoid reproduction . . . )
June 11th, 2008 at 2:21 amCongratulations, darth and chympy.
You've succeeded in emboldening and aiding and abetting recruitment for the terraists.
Jackasses.
June 11th, 2008 at 8:37 amThank you, Bush supporters.
June 11th, 2008 at 9:03 amThis is your legacy!
1Watt Says:
Putting Bush, Cheney, Rummy et. al. on trial for war crimes would take away a lot of the recruitment.
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Amen. If they really love "The Homeland," (yuk!Hate that word!) they should turn themselves in.
June 11th, 2008 at 9:25 amWhen the blowback from Gitmo, Abu, and invading Iraq finally comes, we will surely deserve it.
June 11th, 2008 at 10:12 amMs_Joanne Says:
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Woodguy, how does it know your email?
June 11th, 2008 at 1:45 am
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I can't say for sure that he does. I'm barely internet saavy, and I was careful not to accuse him of anything. I do know my spam has gone crazy, so I just wanted to warn others.
June 11th, 2008 at 2:15 pmI firmly believe that 9/11 was an inside job. But I felt confused about why US agents encouraged by the White House would use torture against people they knew were innocent. Now I understand - use torture and humiliation to enrage the Arab world so another false flag operation can be carried out and blamed on Islamic extremists. IMPEACHMENT must go forward NOW!!!
June 11th, 2008 at 3:24 pmAnyone who uses the word "homeland" as a substitute for America should be tried for treason and executed. It is Nazi talk to the core. Zionist traitors who want to distance Americans from their traditions started using it so they can more easily manipulate them.
Refuse to use the word "homeland" in any context. The so called "Homeland Security Dept," is run by Jewish Nazis who should be on trial for treason.
June 12th, 2008 at 3:12 am