Top McCain Adviser Blatantly Lies About Obama’s Tax Proposals: ‘He’s Not Proposed One Single Tax Cut’
Top McCain Adviser Blatantly Lies About Obama’s Tax Proposals: ‘He’s Not Proposed One Single Tax Cut’
On Fox News today, Carly Fiorina, who is a top economic adviser to Sen. John McCain (R-AZ), blatantly distorted Sen. Barack Obama’s (D-IL) tax proposals. When Fox’s Martha MacCallum noted that Obama says he wants to “put money back in people’s pockets and give them tax cuts,” Fiorina claimed that Obama has “not proposed one single tax cut”:
FIORINA: Yes, but he’s not proposed one single tax cut. In fact, every program he’s proposed is a tax increase, whether it’s an increase in payroll taxes, an increase in capital gains and dividend taxes, an increase in Social Security taxes, or an increase on small- business owners. Everything he’s proposed is a tax increase, not a tax cut.
Watch it:
Fiorina’s assertion is flagrantly wrong and disingenuous. In fact, Obama prominently touts his plan to “cut income taxes by $1,000 for working families” on his website:
Obama even touted his tax cut plan in a widely covered speech yesterday, saying that it would “provide $1,000 of relief to 95% of workers and their families.”
In the same segment, Fiorina claimed that her boss, John McCain, “has been very explicit about the taxes he will cut.” But she neglected to mention that McCain is far from explicit in explaining how he’ll pay for massive deficits created by his tax proposals. In fact, he refuses to name a single program he’ll cut.
Transcript:
FIORINA: So I think what you have here is Barack Obama, without a great deal of understanding in the economy, going back to the same old tax- and-spend philosophies of the liberal Democratic past. He reminds me a bit of Jimmy Carter — or Herbert Hoover, even worse.MACCALLUM: Well, he of course would say that that’s not the case and that what they want to do is put money back in people’s pockets and give them tax cuts. And certainly when people hear that, that sounds pretty good, Carly.
FIORINA: Yes, but he’s not proposed one single tax cut. In fact, every program he’s proposed is a tax increase, whether it’s an increase in payroll taxes, an increase in capital gains and dividend taxes, an increase in Social Security taxes, or an increase on small- business owners. Everything he’s proposed is a tax increase, not a tax cut.
On the other hand, John McCain has been very explicit about the taxes he will cut.
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There you go again, letting facts get in the way of reality.
June 10th, 2008 at 5:39 pmI guess “lying” is listed as one of the skills on Carly Fiorina’s resume…
*eyeroll*
June 10th, 2008 at 5:40 pmHmmm, a McCain adviser who lies?
Shocking!!!
June 10th, 2008 at 5:41 pmIf you see the mouth of a Rethuglican moving, they are lying out their ass!
June 10th, 2008 at 5:42 pmSurprise, surprise!
June 10th, 2008 at 5:42 pmIf you want to shut Carly Fiorina up just ask her why she got fired as CEO of HP and why the company is doing so much better under her replacement.
In the interim, perhaps someone could tell this twink that Herbert Hoover was not a “liberal Democrat” or any other kind of Democrat for that matter.
June 10th, 2008 at 5:47 pmIt appears that the repubs like the tact of sending mixed lies, hoping that the simple minded voters will be confused.
June 10th, 2008 at 5:49 pmpaleolib Says:
If you want to shut Carly Fiorina up just ask her why she got fired as CEO of HP and why the company is doing so much better under her replacement.
Lacking in skills, eh?
June 10th, 2008 at 5:56 pmIt seems as if McCain and his staff live in a pre-google. pre-youtube world.
They think you can just say anything, the way it used to be.
I’m sure eventually they’ll start to catch on…..but they’ll still probably go the way of the dinosaurs.
Clearly Purina knows how to lie like a champ.
-GSD
June 10th, 2008 at 5:59 pmHey Mizz Fiona? How’s HP these days, since your disastrous tenure?
June 10th, 2008 at 6:00 pmshe led the company into a controversial merger with rival Compaq in 2002. Fiorina presided over a halving of Hewlett Packard’s value during her tenure and heavy job losses.[1] She was fired by HP’s board due to dissatisfaction with her performance in February 2005.
Fiorina is also a contributor on the Fox Business Network.[2]
Nuff said.
June 10th, 2008 at 6:01 pmI remember this one shouting from the throne, “Your job isn’t your god-given right, you have to compete for your job!” As paleolib points out, she couldn’t even compete to keep hers –she thought she didn’t have to. But she was sent out the door with $21,000,000 for her “troubles.”
June 10th, 2008 at 6:01 pmoh, yeah, that was via wiki…
June 10th, 2008 at 6:01 pmJeebutz, now that I think of it, Fiona gives the chymp a run for it’s banana money when it comes to lousy business leaders!
June 10th, 2008 at 6:03 pmTreasury Secretary Carly Fiorina — one more reason to vote for Obama.
June 10th, 2008 at 6:03 pmFiorina is a lunatic - as are all these other tax-cut losers. IF, and only IF they want to fix anything that’s falling apart in this country (families, infrastructure, health care, schools, etc..) SOMEONE HAS GOT TO PAY FOR IT - THEIR MATH IS BULLSHIT!
TWO-MINUS-ONE DOES NOT EQUAL THREE!!!
Their way means CHINA or anyone else we’re sending TRILLIONS to for interest service on our debt to them, owns America in oh way 10-15 years…BUT THEY DON’T SEEM TO GIVE A CRAP!!!
Oh, and HP is doing much better since she GOT FIRED FOR BEING A LUNATIC…
June 10th, 2008 at 6:04 pmTop McCain Adviser Blatantly Lies About Obama’s Tax Proposals: ‘He’s Not Proposed One Single Tax Cut’»
If its a Republican and its mouth moved, of course its lying.
June 10th, 2008 at 6:06 pmTo this day, does that Compaq merger mean shit? You know it’s failed when, years later, you still think of HP and Compaq as two separate companies.
Wherever she went to business school, remind me not to apply there.
June 10th, 2008 at 6:07 pmWhat do you expect? the truth? I’m suprised she didn’t say Obama wants to increase taxes on “hard working Americans” so he he raise welfare payments to “welfare cheats”.
June 10th, 2008 at 6:08 pmUS Spending on Infrastructure, as a percentage of GDP, is the LOWEST in the industrialized World.
After the tech boom ended in 2001, Capital Spending dropped more sharply than at any point since the Great Depression.
America is NOT Investing in it’s FUTURE. That’s the problem.
June 10th, 2008 at 6:13 pmBased on her definition of ‘tax cut’, which includes cuts targeted to corporations and the top 1%, ok top 1.75% of the richest in America, then no, he’s not proposed any ‘tax cut’ (corporate welfare).
God, these McIIIrd helpers are losers.
Good thing I left the LyingBastardOMeter unplugg…Oh, shit, I’m outa here! (**frantically running to parking lot **)
June 10th, 2008 at 6:22 pmNow all we need is for Maria Bartiromo to come along and tells us that Carly’s $21 buyout for screwing HP into the ground doesn’t make her rich.
She may be a liar and a lousy executive but at least we know why she doesn’t want a tax hike.
June 10th, 2008 at 6:23 pmAnd everyone still left at HP can breath easier now. I used to do work with them and was amazed at the hostility towards her after the Compaq deal. They felt she was WAY over her head and would never ask for help or advice.
June 10th, 2008 at 6:28 pmWhich one of these has the “fist” fantasy? I don’t watch fixed news so I can only go by how much all their anchorettes look like each other. Fiorina just wants to “listen in” or perhaps, watch. Or is she trying to work up a “fist club” for important republican women?
June 10th, 2008 at 6:31 pmCEO fired in disgrace–her credibility is below whale spit
June 10th, 2008 at 6:33 pmupside99 Says:
And everyone still left at HP can breath easier now. I used to do work with them and was amazed at the hostility towards her after the Compaq deal. They felt she was WAY over her head and would never ask for help or advice.
And most likely laughed their collective asses off at the news that she’d been chosen as a McCain “advisor.”
June 10th, 2008 at 6:34 pmRepublicans [2006] are already arguing that the revenue jump proves that their tax cuts, especially the 2003 tax cut on stock dividends, would spur the economy and ultimately increase revenues.
So tax cuts equal increased tax revenue? LOL. keep cutting taxes so you can pay more taxes.
June 10th, 2008 at 6:35 pmStart with the values issue. She was fired as CEO because of the havoc that she wrought on the value of the stock. She also wanted to stop leaks and hire some investigators that violated the law to spy on her own board of directors. So now, WHY ARE YOU SURPRISED THAT SHE IS LYING?
June 10th, 2008 at 6:39 pmThis is just another political football.
Tax receipts have increaed since the tax shift. Inflation creates more tax reciepts because you pay more tax on an item that is priced higher. There is NO need for Obama to raise taxes because they are already raised thru republican tax cuts.
Now that is gonna leave a mark.
June 10th, 2008 at 6:45 pmMcCain want business taxes at 25 % \
June 10th, 2008 at 6:54 pmDamn most working class pay 28%
Warren Buffet said he pays less then his secretary .
I hope the right message get though !!!!
Top McCain Adviser Blatantly Lies About Obama’s Tax Proposals: ‘He’s Not Proposed One Single Tax Cut’»
This lying will sink McCain even further… the masses have caught onto and are sick to death of the deceit. The 75,000 that packed Portland Or., a population of 0.9% black, for an Obama rally last May speaks volumes and is a good measurement of just how many now seek the truth and what is right and good.
June 10th, 2008 at 6:57 pmHow bout a 100% income tax cut for that secretary?
June 10th, 2008 at 6:57 pmCarly Fiorina, who is a top economic adviser to McStupid ; a mentally feeble and dishonest character in over her head and a complete failure in the business world.
Sounds kinda’ like some dope we all know occupying the White House ; what’s the reason to vote for McStupid again , Carly ?
The inherent comedic value ?
No thanks……..
June 10th, 2008 at 7:06 pmFaux Noise, Far from Balanced
Lies spilling out her lips, gives the people fits
Spout the lie, while our troops die
Faux Noise gives me the shits.
She’s a professional, a professional liar.
June 10th, 2008 at 7:20 pmHerbert Hoover? Herbert Hoover? Now who is going to believe that Obama would be like Herbert Hoover? Only someone weened on FOX who doesn’t have a clue about Hoover’s trickle-down, corporate-friendly, no-regulation policies.
June 10th, 2008 at 7:24 pmIf you’re going to work for John McCain, a. you have to know how to lie on a Karl Rove like-level and b. you need to know how to tell a lie and keep it together so it becomes a scary lie. Scary lies, strung together, take GOP hopefuls a long ways with the intellectually inept.
June 10th, 2008 at 7:45 pmWhen she became CEO of HP, she took down the portraits of Hewlett and Packard, the founders for god’s sake, and put up her portrait.
June 10th, 2008 at 8:09 pmGrandiosity and incompetence. Just what’s needed for Bush’s third term.
McCain claims he’s not “McBush,” but his campaign sure seems to have taken on the mantle of continuing the “Liar-in-Chief” way with veracity.
The New Repub Party Motto - “Never tell the truth when a lie will do!” Truely Lincolnesque!
June 10th, 2008 at 9:10 pmJinJin:
June 10th, 2008 at 9:15 pmMy patenience is reaching it’s limits. Have you tried a cup of pencils and a lame blind man routine?
Herbert Hoover was a Democrat? This broad needs a lesson in history!
June 10th, 2008 at 9:16 pmCarly Fiorina: Bad for Hewlett-Packard, Bad for America.
June 10th, 2008 at 9:38 pmAs we all know Old man Johnny`s tax cuts are for the wealthy and his corporate tax cuts will help the wealthy and he is being bankrolled by the wealthy, what is it that people don`t get about Johnny….
The lower income wage earners of this country will keep paying for his tax cuts for the wealthy and when the lower income people run out of money to pay for the wealthy he`ll just do what Reagan did,run up a huge deficit….
June 10th, 2008 at 11:41 pmRE: Carly Fiorina and HP.
She may have been incompetent, but an above posting says she still exited with 21 million. She certainly knows how to get money despite her incompetence. If I had 21 million, I doubt I’d show up for work tomorrow.
June 10th, 2008 at 11:59 pmDumb Q
June 10th, 2008 at 11:59 pmDumb Q
June 10th, 2008 at 11:59 pmDumb Question: Above arguments (even if we accept McCains dubious worldview) have McC lowering taxes for the rich at the expense of those folks who don’t need their minimum wage jobs.
But McCain wants to Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb bomn Iran….
Won’t we have to pay for Iraq ? Not to mention the 50 and some odd military bases we want to put there ? And then Iran ?
Wouldn’t these mean that we will have to raise taxes ?
June 11th, 2008 at 12:01 amIf they have (R)after their names or they work for FAUXNOIZ and their mouth is moving…they are lying.
June 11th, 2008 at 12:09 am.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, unless Carly Fiorina proves me wrong, she’s a Fascist sympathizer.
Hell, if Carly Fiorina could, she’d argue that Obama wasn’t an African American.
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June 11th, 2008 at 1:12 amIt is becoming more and more obvious that McCain and the GOP cannot win an election without deceit.
The party of fiscal responsibility place this country in fiscal debt that will haunt this country. In which it has been by our Gov’t selling off America (France manufacturing our Air Force’s refuelers comes to mind.
The GOP tax cuts that went to the wealthy(supposedly) to create jobs. Created those jobs overseas. And they wrap themselves in the American flag and come in the name of God.
June 11th, 2008 at 2:07 amCarly, as CEO of Hewlett-Packard, was full of fluff and achieved nothing. Then she got a 35 million dollar golden parachute. Now she’s got herself a job as McCain’s economic advisor. It couldn’t be funnier.
June 11th, 2008 at 2:34 amIt stands to reason that there’re SOME smart people among Republicans. Rove, Cheney, Rice, etc., seem smart if thoroughly misguided and/or evil. But Ms. Fiorina isn’t one of them. With her kind of economic advice, one quakes even more violently at the prospect of another four years of a Republican administration.
Republican hypocrisy. They promise all these large tax cuts but never mention how much it puts the government in debt. They give large tax cuts to high income individuals who clearly didn’t need it and would of done fine without it. On top of that, they are fighting so hard to keep the oil companies subsidized at the tune of 14 billion. And meanwhile, the government is close to 14 trillion in debt.
They kick and scream when any help is given to the poorest Americans, but fight with teeth and muscle to give help to the wealthiest in our society. Why can’t Republican voters see what these corporate socialists are doing to the country?
June 11th, 2008 at 11:05 amWow! A whole $1,000! That’s a joke to even call that a tax cut.
June 13th, 2008 at 1:00 amgitrdone Says:
Republican hypocrisy. They promise all these large tax cuts but never mention how much it puts the government in debt. They give large tax cuts to high income individuals who clearly didn’t need it and would of done fine without it.
gitrdone,
Tax cuts don’t put the government in debt, the out-of control spending does. Tax cuts actually bring in more tax receipts to the treasury’s coffers than tax increases, the problem is both Congress and the President have been spending like drunken sailors.
However, I do agree with your point that tax cuts and subsidies to large corporations should be eliminated.
June 13th, 2008 at 1:05 amFox News? You actually listen to a White house owned and operated news network?
June 20th, 2008 at 12:28 pmActually, even if one supports Obama, one should see that his tax talk is a pack of lies. First, if he lets the Bush tax cut expire, it would be the biggest tax increase on the lower and middle classes in US history. Bush took poor people completely off of the tax rolls and dramatically lowered taxes for the middle classes. Bush also lowered taxes for the wealthy, but percentage wise his middle class tax cuts were greater.
The real issue may be who will cut spending more. Anytime there is a percentage increase in spending greater than the percentage increase in tax take, eventually the American people will pay.
The American people also pay when their is inflation in excess of the increase in money supply.
The truth is that McCain is a much, much safer bet for middle class stability than Obama is.
Obama is a much better bet for freedom, social equality, etc…
No one talks about familiarity with administrative agencies of the government…IRS, SEC, DEA, FBI, FTD etc…We live in the administrative state. McCain has many years in government; Obama is a tyro. He is well intentioned, very bright, and perhaps presidential material in 10-15 more years.
If you want progressivity in government, it begins with the states, the senate, the house, but the presidency is not going to achieve it.
August 24th, 2008 at 4:14 pm