If it’s this controlled now, I can only imagine how it was in OIF 1 (first year of OIF for you non-military types)when shit was just off the hook and fairly unregulated.

You’re gonna love this!

Why are YOU voting Republican?

A lot of what you are saying in #70 makes sense, with one caveat, apparently there were considerable atrocities after the Vietnam war, millions.

Are similar events possible after we leave Iraq. If they’re possible, can they be mitigated?

Your proposals in #74 also seem reasonable.

The $23 Billion missing in Iraq was loaned to us by the Communist Chinese as part of BushCo’s insane deficit-spending economic program over the past 7 1/2 years that has ballooned our federal deficit to close to $10 Trillion. (Which, I’m certain, our children, grand-children and great-grand-children will be glad to pay).

So, just wait until the Communist Chinese learn that BushCo lost all that money over in Iraq, their money that they loaned us by buying trillions in U.S. government bonds, presumably a safe investment bet, or at least, at one time, it was.

Hopefully, George W. Bush will make Communist China part of his farewell tour, at which time the Communist Chinese should demand to his face that he account for the missing billions in Iraq, which indirectly was theirs.

wow, the reality is strong in this one..hehe

from your article:

“According to the internal al Qaeda correspondence in the files, Iraqis have taken to, and effectively run, al Qaeda in Iraq. Foreign fighters’ roles seem mostly relegated to the canon fodder of suicide attacks.”

AQI is pretty much a group of iraqi nationalists, they were not our enemies before we started this, and I think its fair to say that virtually all of them will return to wholly iraqi affairs once we leave.

I dont think someone should get to commit 23 billion dollars of fraud simply in the name of fighting some group that wasnt around before we invaded..

No RrOoGgEeRr 23 billion isnt much money.

*shakes head, rolls eyes twice*

Your saying that we should continue real violence to prevent hypothetical violence and you can’t get by your all or nothing thinking. You can’t get past the full immediate unconditional withdrawal. Which is silly because it’s impossible and no reasonable person with authority has suggested any such thing.

I say, “stop the real violence now deal with the hypothetical violence if and when it develops”. And here’s a hypothetical scenario to consider.

What if the U.S. forces declared a conditional unilateral cease fire and cessation of offensive patrols.

Here are the conditions: We would, obviously, return hostile fire. We would secure our bases and help with securing Iraqi facilities as needed. We would continue to provide technical and logistic support (which could include bomb detection/disposal)for LEGITIMATE Iraqi forces. We would continue to provide needed emergency support for LEGITIMATE Iraqi forces.

Now. What possible harm would such an experiment cause?

But, as long as we get our troops out…

There probably will be… the situation is f’ed.

Us staying doesn’t help though, it makes things worse.

We’ll be paying for Bush’s folly for a long time to come and the Iraqi’s will be paying more… but we need someone with some credibility to begin sorting out this mess and that someone ain’t us…

Let’s try it this way:

You put $23,000 in an account in your bank, when you go to draw it out, there is $22,310 in the account.

You tell the bank, they took $690 (3%) of your money and they say “Just a 3% loss, no Biggie, just the cost of doing business”, happens all the time in the banking world.