ThinkFast: June 11, 2008
ThinkFast: June 11, 2008
Top Iraqi officials are objecting publicly to the United States’ effort to establish permanent bases in the country. “The Americans are making demands that would lead to the colonization of Iraq,” said Sami al-Askari, a senior Shiite politician close to Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki. “If we can’t reach a fair agreement, many people think we should say, ‘Goodbye, U.S. troops. We don’t need you here anymore.’”
The House is set to vote today on whether to send articles of impeachment against President Bush to the House Judiciary Committee. The 35 articles, offered by Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-OH) and now co-sponsored by Rep. Robert Wexler (D-FL), must be acted upon within two days, under House rules.
In an interview with the UK Times, President Bush said he regrets his legacy in making the world believe “he was a ‘guy really anxious for war’ in Iraq.” But today, he added that “he had no regrets about the decision to invade Iraq.”
“The young anarchists, middle-aged peace activists and established left-wing politicians” in Germany “have at least one thing in common: none bothered to keep a six-year tradition alive by organizing a protest against President Bush’s arrival” on Tuesday. “Bush is not even popular in the role of the enemy anymore,” wrote Der Tagesspiegel newspaper.
On the trail today: Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL) is in Chicago, meeting with Illinois families at a roundtable discussion on predatory lending at 11:00 AM CDT at the Illinois Institute of Technology. Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) is holding a townhall meeting this morning at the National Constitution Center in Philadelphia.
With soaring oil prices, Americans are increasingly turning to Amtrak, which “saw record numbers in May when ridership rose 12.3 percent from a year earlier.” The Bush administration, however, is threatening to veto legislation that would fund the passenger railroad for the next five years.
“There is not going to be an intelligence authorization bill unless torture is stopped,” said Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) yesterday, referring to her efforts to have the CIA adhere to Army Field Manual policies that ban torture. “And torture right now is being carried out by CIA contractors. …The bill’s not going to go ahead.”
Feinstein is also introducing a private bill to try to keep the valedictorian at Fresno’s Bullard High School from being deported. Arthur Mkoyan has lived in the United States since he was two-years old, but because he was brought here illegally by his parents, he is now facing possible deportation to Armenia.
Yesterday, the scientific academies of the G8 countries and of Brazil, China, India, Mexico and South Africa “urged the world to act more forcefully to limit the threat posed by human-driven global warming.” They “called on the industrialized countries to lead a ‘transition to a low-carbon society’ and aggressively move to limit impacts from changes in climate that are already under way and impossible to stop.
And finally: Former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld has bought a new, fuel-efficient Vespa. According to the DC Examiner, “Mr. Macho recently stopped by the Vespa dealership in Glover Park and took home a LXV 150 scooter, which can reach speeds of up to 60 miles per hour.” When asked about his purchase, Rumsfeld refused to comment.
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Panorama investigates claims that as much as $23bn (£11.75bn) may have been lost, stolen or not properly accounted for in Iraq.
When the US goes to war, corporate America goes too.
There are contracts for caterers, tanker drivers, security guards and even interrogators, many of them through companies with links to the White House.
Now more than 70 whistleblower cases threaten to reveal the scandals behind billions of dollars worth of waste, theft and corruption during the Iraq war.
Gagging orders
A total of $23bn (£11.75bn) is under scrutiny.
The US justice department has imposed gagging orders which prevent the real scale of the problem emerging.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/panorama/7438372.stm
**This is mind boggling. More than 70 cases that have “gagging” orders? How can you justify laundry services and catering as worthy of a gag order? I think I need to get more specifics from our presidential candidates about how they intend to investigate/prosecute this current administration for high crimes and misdemeanors.
On Randi Rhodes yesterday, Jonathan Turley repeated his belief that the current Dem leadership was complicit in much of what has happened. Add this to the knowledge we now have about the media being an effective propaganda arm of the Pentagon, and the picture gets pretty grim. This time we need to powerfully let our US Reps know, in no uncertain terms, that impeachment is not only on the table but proceeding full steam ahead. Any Rep that won’t listen needs to be investigated. We need to show up our protest of the FISA bills and show congress we are watching and we expect them to earn their pay.
June 11th, 2008 at 9:03 amThe House is set to vote today on whether to send articles of impeachment against President Bush to the House Judiciary Committee. The 35 articles, offered by Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-OH) and now co-sponsored by Rep. Robert Wexler (D-FL), must be acted upon within two days, under House rules.
em>I disagree with Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, it would be the single most productive thing that could possibly come out of the House of Representatives. What a bunch of spineless contemptable wimps, they do not deserve the seats with which they were elected for.
I find it reprehensible that these Representatives think it's acceptable that this administration has allowed, condoned torture, invading Iraq, Illegal Detention, Imprisoning Children and that this is "not a productive use of the House's time" to persue Articles of Impeachment. But they thought a President getting a blow job in the Oval Office warranted their attention, OMG. WTF is wrong with these people, are they going to dismiss the 89% that want the President Impeached. Do they honestly believe we will forget this over the summer before the elections in November? They are a disgrace to this country and mock what it was founded for; which is liberty and justice for all.
June 11th, 2008 at 9:04 amModus operandi of a pre-9/11 Israeli "art student" revealed
By Wayne Madsen
(WMR) -- One of the over 120 Israeli "art students" who cased federal office buildings and military bases during a year and a half before the 9/11 attacks has revealed details of her "assignment" in the United States to a WMR source.
The former art student, who is now assigned to work with a non-governmental organization (NGO) in South Africa on research on violent crime against South African whites by blacks, said she was first assigned to work at an Israeli-owned shopping mall kiosk in Orange County, California, in early 2001 to "brush up on her American English language skills."
From California the young Israeli woman was transferred to Chicago and then to Houston, where she worked in an office close to the sprawling port facility. Her "cover" was as an accountant for an Israeli intelligence front company involved in the shipping business. It should be noted that former CIA Southeast Region Station Chief Roland V. Carnaby, shot to death on April 29 by two Houston police officers, was known to have been concerned about the lack of security at the port of Houston, was monitoring the activities of Israeli intelligence in the greater Houston area, and was known to have clashed with the Department of Homeland Security over its lack of interest in providing security for the Port of Houston.
After her stint in Houston, the Israeli art student was transferred to New York City for a two-week "holiday." However, she and her group were ordered by their superiors to be "out of the city" on September 11, 2001.
Read the rest:
http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_3359.shtml
**Until this is thoroughly investigated, these will probably be spun as odd coincidences. Odd, indeed. How could the Israelis know about an impending terrorist attack in NYC and not warn us?
June 11th, 2008 at 9:06 amAnti-War Protesters Cleared in Tank Case
Two anti-war protesters who stood in front of a rose-laden tank during last year’s Grand Floral Parade had their legal troubles wiped away by a judge Monday. Bonnie Tinker, 60, and Sara Graham, 67 — two members of the “Seriously P.O.’d Grannies” — were charged with disorderly conduct and interfering with police after they held up anti-war signs in front of the tank in the middle of the parade. “I don’t think freedom of speech is disorderly,” Tinker said.
Tinker said the tank was meant to build support for the Iraq war by connecting it to World War II. “Any time a tank is in a city street, that should cause alarm in people, not generate applause and cheering,” she said. Tinker said she was especially offended by the tank because it had roses and other flowers cascading out of the barrel of its gun. Multnomah County Circuit Judge Alicia Fuchs dismissed the case after Deputy District Attorney Elizabeth Puskar asked for an additional day. Graham was one of five members of the Grannies acquitted in another anti-war protest case in December. The five were charged with misdemeanor criminal mischief for using red paint in April 2007 to write the number of U.S. service members killed in Iraq on the windows of a military recruitment center in Northeast Portland. A jury acquitted them in 30 minutes.
http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/06/10/9525/
Go Grannies!!! Even the two attorneys that defend them do it pro bono. I love these two.
June 11th, 2008 at 9:07 amBBC uncovers lost Iraq billions
For the first time, the extent to which some private contractors have profited from the conflict and rebuilding has been researched by the BBC's Panorama using US and Iraqi government sources. A US gagging order is preventing discussion of the allegations. The order applies to 70 court cases against some of the top US companies.
While George Bush remains in the White House, it is unlikely the gagging orders will be lifted. To date, no major US contractor faces trial for fraud or mismanagement in Iraq. Waxman who chairs the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform said: "The money that's gone into waste, fraud and abuse under these contracts is just so outrageous, its egregious. "It may well turn out to be the largest war profiteering in history."
The search for the missing billions also led the programme to a house in Acton in West London where Hazem Shalaan lived until he was appointed to the new Iraqi government as minister of defence in 2004. He and his associates siphoned an estimated $1.2 billion out of the ministry. They bought old military equipment from Poland but claimed for top class weapons. Meanwhile they diverted money into their own accounts.
Judge Radhi al-Radhi of Iraq's Commission for Public Integrity investigated. "They failed to rebuild the Ministry of Defence , and as a result the violence and the bloodshed went on and on - the murder of Iraqis and foreigners continues and they bear responsibility." Mr Shalaan was sentenced to two jail terms but he fled the country.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7444083.stm
Another war profiteer that aided in perpetuating this war out of greed; it didn’t matter to Mr. Shalaan that thousands of Iraqi lives are lost. Interpol is looking for him. My fondest wish is that they find him, throw him in jail and lose the keys.
June 11th, 2008 at 9:10 amTell Bill O'Reilly: Stop Pretending to be a Journalist
Rupert Murdoch and his on-air bully Bill O'Reilly launched a laughable attack against Free Press, the media reform movement, and quality journalism everywhere.
The O'Reilly ambush is typical Fox News fare. Murdoch uses his media empire to attack his political foes and -- not to inform citizens or tell the truth. The fight for media reform is about regular people like you and me fighting undue corporate control of the media. This kind of abuse of media power aggravates progressives and conservatives alike.
http://digg.com/
"The media is only as liberal as the conservative business that own them." Billo and Rupert’s lack of journalistic integrity and truthfulness, make the Enquirer look good.
June 11th, 2008 at 9:13 am“If we can’t reach a fair agreement, many people think we should say, ‘Goodbye, U.S. troops. We don’t need you here anymore.’”
Why do they feel like they need to make any agreement with us? It's their country, after all. They need to wait until Obama takes office. He will treat them fairly and not hold the money they have in this country hostage in an attempt to force them to agree to something they don't want.
June 11th, 2008 at 9:15 amFormer Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld has bought a new, fuel-efficient Vespa.
It sure would be a shame if he and his Vespa wound up under the wheels of some trucker paying $4.75 a gallon.
June 11th, 2008 at 9:17 amFreedom Rebel @ 5:
The beauty of it all is that many of these contractors contribute to Republicans and the RNC - one back scratching the other. Completely disgusting, but most Americans are blissfully unaware of any of this.
McCain '08: 'Cuz I like my presidents mad and crazy!
June 11th, 2008 at 9:17 amThe House is set to vote today on whether to send articles of impeachment against President Bush
It makes me very sad that our Democratic party is so gutless and didn't bring Articles of Impeachment against this crook a long time ago. They have set such a bad precedent. They are in effect saying that the President can break the law with impunity.
I don't think it is too late at this point. It might also be necessary because having Bush/Cheney under articles of impeachment may be the only way to stop them from bombing Iran.
I am also very disappointed in Obama for not backing this effort by Kucinich. I understand his reasoning, but I don't like it. Personally I think it would work in his favor and not to his detriment. It would show that HE stands up for the rule of law.
June 11th, 2008 at 9:19 amThe House is set to vote today on whether to send articles of impeachment against President Bush to the House Judiciary Committee. The 35 articles, offered by Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-OH) and now co-sponsored by Rep. Robert Wexler (D-FL), must be acted upon within two days, under House rules.
We've been having a lively discussion about this at TheZoo. Check it out!
http://tpzoo.wordpress.com/2008/06/10/articles-of-impeachment-against-george-w-bush/
June 11th, 2008 at 9:20 am“Bush is not even popular in the role of the enemy anymore,” wrote Der Tagesspiegel newspaper.
Ouch. That's gotta hurt. He is so irrelevant that people don't even bother to protest his appearances.
June 11th, 2008 at 9:20 am“There is not going to be an intelligence authorization bill unless torture is stopped,” said Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) yesterday, referring to her efforts to have the CIA adhere to Army Field Manual policies that ban torture. “And torture right now is being carried out by CIA contractors. …The bill’s not going to go ahead.”
Uh huh, you've been waving that dull sword for years, Dianne.
I'll believe it when I see it.
June 11th, 2008 at 9:22 amFreedom Rebel Says:
I find it reprehensible that these Representatives think it’s acceptable that this administration has allowed, condoned torture, invading Iraq, Illegal Detention, Imprisoning Children and that this is “not a productive use of the House’s time” to persue Articles of Impeachment.
If Pelosi refuses to sign on to impeach the chimp we should all contribute to those opposing her in her re-election campaign. She sucks. After being the first woman speaker, she has done little to make me happy she got to that position. I say she gets on board or we help push her out.
June 11th, 2008 at 9:23 am“The young anarchists, middle-aged peace activists and established left-wing politicians” in Germany “have at least one thing in common: none bothered to keep a six-year tradition alive by organizing a protest against President Bush’s arrival” on Tuesday. “Bush is not even popular in the role of the enemy anymore,” wrote Der Tagesspiegel newspaper.
That's a miscalculation. Der Chimperor & friends will view no protests as a victory.
June 11th, 2008 at 9:24 amFrosty Cupcake Says:
Freedom Rebel @ 5:
The beauty of it all is that many of these contractors contribute to Republicans and the RNC - one back scratching the other. Completely disgusting, but most Americans are blissfully unaware of any of this.
McCain ‘08: ‘Cuz I like my presidents mad and crazy!
Good Morning Frosty Cupcake! I agree. Americans have become to complacent about many things. This is a major problem that we can no longer look the other way. Not only is money being lost by the billions but the cost in lives is just too much.
June 11th, 2008 at 9:25 amPresident Bush said he regrets his legacy in making the world believe “he was a ‘guy really anxious for war’ in Iraq.” But today, he added that “he had no regrets about the decision to invade Iraq.”
This right-wing tactic is getting so threadbare, not even Goodwill wants it.
Bush regrets that the world misinterpreted his drive for war as a, well, drive for war. But he doesn't regret his drive for war.
Just like E. D. Hill and countless others, Bush is sorry that others took his words and actions the wrong way. Stated plainly, it's not his fault that the world sees him as a warmonger.
June 11th, 2008 at 9:26 am#15
That's right. It's all about "the legacy" now.
June 11th, 2008 at 9:26 amFeinstein is also introducing a private bill to try to keep the valedictorian at Fresno’s Bullard High School from being deported. Arthur Mkoyan has lived in the United States since he was two-years old, but because he was brought here illegally by his parents, he is now facing possible deportation to Armenia.
Right. Let's deport our best and brightest. That makes sense. **eyes rolling**
June 11th, 2008 at 9:26 amAnd the beat goes on Says:
Until this is thoroughly investigated, these will probably be spun as odd coincidences. Odd, indeed. How could the Israelis know about an impending terrorist attack in NYC and not warn us?
Since 9-12-01 it has been my opinion that the bush cabal was behind the 9-11 attacks. I will be proven correct at some point. Bet on it.
June 11th, 2008 at 9:26 amGood morning to you, Freedom Rebel! :)
June 11th, 2008 at 9:28 amYesterday, the scientific academies of the G8 countries and of Brazil, China, India, Mexico and South Africa “urged the world to act more forcefully to limit the threat posed by human-driven global warming.” They “called on the industrialized countries to lead a ‘transition to a low-carbon society’ and aggressively move to limit impacts from changes in climate that are already under way and impossible to stop.
Y'all are making too much sense. Cut it out...
June 11th, 2008 at 9:29 amFreedom Rebel Says:
Two anti-war protesters who stood in front of a rose-laden tank during last year’s Grand Floral Parade had their legal troubles wiped away by a judge Monday. Bonnie Tinker, 60, and Sara Graham, 67 — two members of the “Seriously P.O.’d Grannies” — were charged with disorderly conduct and interfering with police after they held up anti-war signs in front of the tank in the middle of the parade. “I don’t think freedom of speech is disorderly,” Tinker said.
If thousands of us were doing similar acts of civil disobedience, we'd be a whole lot better off.
June 11th, 2008 at 9:30 amPresident Bush said he regrets his legacy in making the world believe “he was a ‘guy really anxious for war’ in Iraq.”
Any regrets about the legacy hundreds of thousands of people killed in Iraq, and millions of refugees?
Nope, it's all about Genghis.
June 11th, 2008 at 9:32 amAnd the beat goes on Says:
Now more than 70 whistleblower cases threaten to reveal the scandals behind billions of dollars worth of waste, theft and corruption during the Iraq war.
Gagging orders
A total of $23bn (£11.75bn) is under scrutiny.
The US justice department has imposed gagging orders which prevent the real scale of the problem emerging.
Isn't there a federal whistleblower protection law to protect not only the whistleblower from speaking out with impunity, but also to protect the right to do so? This dooshbag Mucus-casey can just wipe this protection away with the stroke of a pen? Seems like he is utilizing the compromised/corrupt attorney general version of the signing statement.
June 11th, 2008 at 9:35 am# 14 Exit Stage Left Says:
Freedom Rebel Says:
I find it reprehensible that these Representatives think it’s acceptable that this administration has allowed, condoned torture, invading Iraq, Illegal Detention, Imprisoning Children and that this is “not a productive use of the House’s time” to persue Articles of Impeachment.
If Pelosi refuses to sign on to impeach the chimp we should all contribute to those opposing her in her re-election campaign. She sucks. After being the first woman speaker, she has done little to make me happy she got to that position. I say she gets on board or we help push her out.
I'm so there. I will not only contribute money to her opposing candidate, I will do the same in Ohio also, if Boehner doesn't support this. He is from Southern Ohio and not in my district, but I will help whoever is running against him.
Have a great day Exit Stage Left:)
June 11th, 2008 at 9:35 amNever wrestle with a pig: You both get all dirty, and the pig likes it.
Or so I thought...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/north_yorkshire/7448006.stm
June 11th, 2008 at 9:37 amFormer Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld has bought a new, fuel-efficient Vespa.
I bet he was jealous he didn't have a cool nickname like "Scooter" Libby.
June 11th, 2008 at 9:37 amjohnboy Says:
June 11th, 2008 at 9:36 am
FLAGGED.
June 11th, 2008 at 9:47 am#10 Bilbo Hussein Baggins Says:
I don’t think it is too late at this point. It might also be necessary because having Bush/Cheney under articles of impeachment may be the only way to stop them from bombing Iran.
I am also very disappointed in Obama for not backing this effort by Kucinich. I understand his reasoning, but I don’t like it. Personally I think it would work in his favor and not to his detriment. It would show that HE stands up for the rule of law.
I agree with you. I think it would definitely work in his favor. He would show a strong stand for the Constitution and that he won't tolerate it's abuse.
We need a leader who doesn't care what the media thinks. If he is standing up for what he believes in which is truth and justice; it would send a positive message to the international community also.
June 11th, 2008 at 9:47 amBernanke: Danger of 'substantial downturn' has faded
Bernanke: Danger of 'substantial downturn' has faded despite big jump in jobless rate
Despite a recent spike in the nation's unemployment rate, the danger that the economy has fallen into a "substantial downturn" appears to have waned, Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke said Monday.
Addressing a Fed conference in Chatham, Mass., on Monday night, Bernanke said a government report last week showing the unemployment rate rising from 5 percent in April to 5.5 percent in May — the biggest one-month jump in two decades — was "unwelcome." However, the Fed chief said other forces should "provide some offset to the headwinds that still face the economy."
The Fed's powerful doses of interest rate cuts, the government's $168 billion stimulus package, further progress in the repair of problems in financial and credit markets, a gradual ebbing of the drag from the deep housing slump and still solid demand from abroad for U.S. exports should help the economy over the remainder of this year, he said.
Although economic activity is "likely to be weak" during the current April-to-June quarter, Bernanke said "the risk that the economy has entered a substantial downturn appears to have diminished over the past month or so."
Last Friday fears were rekindled that the country could be headed for a deep recession after the unemployment rate zoomed and oil prices registered their biggest single-day leap.
However, Bernanke said, "Recent incoming data, taken as a whole, have affected the outlook for economic activity and employment only modestly."
Read it all:
http://www.rawstory.com/news/mochila/Bernanke_Danger_of_substantial_down_06092008.html
**What are these idiots smoking or drinking? Gotta be Bush’s favorite drink –Kool Aid. This might be what they say, but what they mean is that they have propped up corporations at the expense of the public and their buddies have been able to recover some of their ill¬-gotten gain from criminal business practices and stashed it off shore.
June 11th, 2008 at 9:48 amZooey Says:
The House is set to vote today on whether to send articles of impeachment against President Bush to the House Judiciary Committee. The 35 articles, offered by Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-OH) and now co-sponsored by Rep. Robert Wexler (D-FL), must be acted upon within two days, under House rules.
We’ve been having a lively discussion about this at TheZoo. Check it out!
Everyone should call their rep and ask them to go on record, either support impeachment by co-sponsoring and demand restoration of our Laws and Constitution or admit they are OathBreakers, the lowest scum of the earth.
June 11th, 2008 at 9:48 amPresident Bush said he regrets his legacy in making the world believe “he was a ‘guy really anxious for war’ in Iraq. But today, he added that 'he had no regrets about the decision to invade Iraq'.
So he's claiming he made the world believe something that wasn't true when everyone knows what really went on.
June 11th, 2008 at 9:49 amThen he follows up by saying that he has no regret for being a war criminal.
Maybe he's feeling the devil biting his ass and this is an attempt at damage control.
Freedom Rebel Says:
I will do the same in Ohio also, if Boehner doesn’t support this. He is from Southern Ohio and not in my district, but I will help whoever is running against him.
I will be moving from Central Florida to Cincinnati as soon as my house here is either sold or rented. I'm not sure what I could do besides contribute to Boner's opposition, but I'd sure like that wimpy crybaby to get his walking papers in November. I also hope to be able to contribute to whomever opposes the well-entrenched asswipe repuke congressman from the west side of Cincinnati (I can't think of his name).
P.S. Does anyone know the exact residency requirements (time-wise) to vote after moving?
June 11th, 2008 at 9:49 amExit Stage Left, go here.
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0781452.html
Looks like 30 days. :)
June 11th, 2008 at 9:51 amZooey Says:
johnboy Says:
June 11th, 2008 at 9:36 am
FLAGGED.
And flagged, with a note asking TP to ban the racist POS
June 11th, 2008 at 9:51 amIsn't it a hoot when trolls and wingnuts try to float the claim that Democrats only supported Obama "because he's black"? Or that his racial character won him the nomination? Y'know, some eedjit will make a statement like, "Whichever race gets you the nomination and in Hussein’s case it just happens to be black. Got to love the guilt of white America!", completely ignoring the utter dearth of serious black presidential candidates to this point in our nation's history.
One would think that if all one had to do to be nominated for president is be black, other black men would have figured this out long ago, and made a run.
Oh yeah -- they did. Jesse Jackson. Al Sharpton. Women, too -- Carol Mosely Braun. Shirley Chisolm. Heck, even a black Republican tried it. Remember Alan Keyes? How do these people explain the failure of those candidates to exploit the goldmine of CWB (Campaigning While Black)?
Better question: how do these people even feed themselves?
June 11th, 2008 at 9:54 amBernanke said a government report last week showing the unemployment rate rising from 5 percent in April to 5.5 percent in May — the biggest one-month jump in two decades — was “unwelcome.” However, the Fed chief said other forces should “provide some offset to the headwinds that still face the economy.”
Headwinds? Fcuking HEADWINDS? Is that what he calls being out of work and unable to afford $4/gallon gasoline? Or being employed and not being able to afford $4/gallon gasoline? In his case I think it's more like head-up-ass-winds.
June 11th, 2008 at 9:59 amjohnboy Says:
Wayne Says:
All of CNN is racist for hosting this article?
YOU are racist for posting that crap and for your commentary of it in your post, scumbag.
Eat sh!t and die, trashboy
June 11th, 2008 at 10:02 amZooey Says:
Exit Stage Left, go here.
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0781452.html
Looks like 30 days. :)
Thanks Zooey...You rock :)
June 11th, 2008 at 10:02 amI don't even know what this means.
What an ineffective troll.
June 11th, 2008 at 10:02 am[on Dubya]: But today, he added that “he had no regrets about the decision to invade Iraq.”
Oh, yeah He's stoopid too.
Cheers,
June 11th, 2008 at 10:03 amFreedom Rebel Says:
Have a great day Exit Stage Left:)
Back atcha FR :)
June 11th, 2008 at 10:03 amYesterday, TP posts that Inhofe thinks Iraq is in Africa.
I disagree the ad suggests that, but have it your way.
And predictably many progressives chimed in that Inhofe was in idiot for his lack of knowledge of geography.
Okay, still no big deal.
But, come to find out, Inhofe has been to Iraq nine times in the last 5 years. And he's running for, what, Senator from Oklahoma? I respect Oklahomans, but he's not running to be the leader of the free world.
If Inhofe is an idiot in world knowledge and he's actually been to Iraq nine times since the war began, aren't we the least bit curious how knowledgeable Obama is, since he's only been to Iraq and the middle east once?
If Obama will oversee the withdrawal of the troops from Iraq, wouldn't it make sense for him to have more first hand knowledge of what's going on there, than Inhofe?
June 11th, 2008 at 10:04 amTop Iraqi officials are objecting publicly to the United States’ effort to establish permanent bases in the country. “The Americans are making demands that would lead to the colonization of Iraq,” said Sami al-Askari, a senior Shiite politician close to Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki. “If we can’t reach a fair agreement, many people think we should say, ‘Goodbye, U.S. troops. We don’t need you here anymore.’”
Funny...I seem to remember that not so long ago, Bush said something to the effect that the US will withdraw its troops when the Iraqi people and their government make it clear that we're not wanted there anymore. Well, frankly, I don't think that there are all that many ways left in which the Iraqis could make it any clearer that we are outstaying our welcome.
Oh, wait...silly me. This is Bush we're talking about...the man who to all appearances is virtually allergic to the truth. Which leads me to the second item...
In an interview with the UK Times, President Bush said he regrets his legacy in making the world believe “he was a ‘guy really anxious for war’ in Iraq.” But today, he added that “he had no regrets about the decision to invade Iraq.”
Maybe the reason why the world believes that Bush was a "guy really anxious for war" in Iraq was because he gave little or no indication of being anything else! After all, actions speak louder than words. Oh, and let's not forget about the Downing Street Memo while we're at it...
Bush has no regrets about the decision to invade Iraq?!? Not even about the 4,000+ American lives sacrificed? The countless numbers of Iraqi civilians who have been killed, injured, or forced from their homes? The large sums of money which cannot be accounted for? The fact that Bush according to his own words apparently has no regrets about these and other things speaks volumes about his character -- or rather, his utter lack thereof.
June 11th, 2008 at 10:07 amExit Stage Left:
Ohio is a 30 day residency state for voting purposes. Just make sure to register as soon as you move. No matter what part of the Cincy metro area you move to you can go Republican hunting: Steve Chabot to the west (contract on America guy who "forgot" the term limit part of the pledge), Jean "cut and run" Schmidt to the east and the Bonerman up north. Schmidt is the most vulnerable having barely won last time around. Nice place to live but way too many lockstep zombie voters. Some signs of change from the '06 voter patterns. We shall see.
June 11th, 2008 at 10:08 ambackup, I've never been to Iraq, and I know it's in Asia, and borders Iran, Kuwait, Syria, Turkey and Saudi Arabia.
Unless Inhofe piloted the plane there himself, one does need any more sense of georgraphy to get someplace overseas than the ability to navigate to the airport.
June 11th, 2008 at 10:09 amWhat do you think is the job of the House speaker?
Does your idea agree with pelosi's?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/csm/20080610/cm_csm/yedwards;_ylt=AhWTRJyzj7DFGLDG3pRe4.is0NUE
Interviewed on National Public Radio, she said part of her job as House speaker was to ensure that there would be a Democratic majority in the next Congress. That, of course, is likely to happen regardless of what she does, but that is actually the job of the chairman of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee; Ms. Pelosi's job is to legislate and to see to it that the House fulfills its constitutional duties as a separate, independent and equal branch of the federal government.
June 11th, 2008 at 10:17 ambackup Says:
If Obama will oversee the withdrawal of the troops from Iraq, wouldn’t it make sense for him to have more first hand knowledge of what’s going on there, than Inhofe?
What first hand knowledge are you talking about? No American politician visiting Iraq gets "first hand knowledge", they are sequestered in the Green Zone for security reasons -- unless they're being escorted by a squad of armored cars, Marines and helicopters to look like they're getting "first hand knowledge."
And Inhofe has demonstrated time and time again that he's a dangerous idiot, whether he thinks Iraq is in Africa or not.
June 11th, 2008 at 10:17 ambackup's "logic" relies upon the same fallacy that holds that the kid who gets the perfect attendance certificate gets to be the valedictorian. Walking around a recently sanitized market wearing a flack jacket while surrounded by troops gives you about as much of an idea of what is really going on throughout Iraq as going to EuroDisney tells you what is going on in France. Before Republicans decided the Iraq visit was a great photo op these things were called junkets and representatives got criticized for taking too many of them. I am much more interested in the candidate's ability to articulate sound policy proposals than I am how many stamps his or her passport has.
June 11th, 2008 at 10:19 amBackup,
Dubya doesn't even know the difference between Shiites and Sunnis.
Guess he qualifies as an "Aferkin" Expert, as well.
June 11th, 2008 at 10:21 amjohnboy Says: The lunatic fringe letting emotion consume rational thought.
Who are you trying to kid?
June 11th, 2008 at 10:23 amYou would not know a rational thought, even if it came in the form of a bowel movement pouring over your face, which is permanently stuck in your posterior's nether region.
paleolib Says:
Ohio is a 30 day residency state for voting purposes. Just make sure to register as soon as you move. No matter what part of the Cincy metro area you move to you can go Republican hunting: Steve Chabot to the west (contract on America guy who “forgot” the term limit part of the pledge
Thank you muchly for the info. Chabot was the guy i was misremembering.
June 11th, 2008 at 10:23 amWhy do the minds of wingnuts invariably zero in on bestiality whenever they roam free?
Can someone explain that to me?
June 11th, 2008 at 10:24 amJohnboy,
I hear your mama calling from the other end of the trailer, she wants her computer back. Be a good Johnboy and go outside and play with your fellow little inbred friends.
June 11th, 2008 at 10:24 amgummitch Says:
And Inhofe has demonstrated time and time again that he’s a dangerous idiot, whether he thinks Iraq is in Africa or not.
I wonder whether it's Iraq or Africa that is closer to the end of the flat earth.
June 11th, 2008 at 10:25 amJust because Inhofe went on the horse and pony ride multiple times doesn't give him any insight into anything other than the Administration/Pentagon's propaganda. I'm sure he wears his flag pin nice and straight and has several "support the troops" bumper stickers on his SUV. Senator Obama does not need to physically set foot in the country multiple times of Iraq multiple times to understand what needs to be done. The Chimp has never set foot in Iran but that doesn't stop the Repiglicants from accepting their Dear Leaders views on the nation. Hell they voted for this numbskull with full knowlege of his inept foreign skills. What a bunch of pathetic hypocrites!
June 11th, 2008 at 10:27 amJohnboy
June 11th, 2008 at 10:27 amWhat do you say? I'll give you the attention you are looking for if you let the grown ups talk. Deal?
By definition, an elected Congressman or Senator is the REPRESENTATIVE of the people of their District/state.
That says a lot about Oklahoma residents, I guess.
June 11th, 2008 at 10:28 amExcellent point.
June 11th, 2008 at 10:28 amSorry, should read:
June 11th, 2008 at 10:30 amSenator Obama does not need to physically set foot in the country of Iraq multiple times to understand what needs to be done.
ralph the wonder llama Says:
Why do the minds of wingnuts invariably zero in on bestiality whenever they roam free?
Can someone explain that to me?
Sorry, Ralph, I am not a professor of abnormal psychology, so I cannot explain it either.
Any specialists in abnormal psychology in the house?
June 11th, 2008 at 10:31 amMaybe that explains their polluted gene pool.
June 11th, 2008 at 10:32 ambackup Says:
Who care what you say, after seven years of being wrong, you've lost the right to voice an opinion.
All you've earned is a hearty STFU.
June 11th, 2008 at 10:36 amcrapcannon:
June 11th, 2008 at 10:39 amThat's beyond weak. You just don't have the gift. Some do some don't. You don't
So the "War President" has his regrets that his reputation will be one of wanting war? Interestingly enough, GW, your reputation is well defined and it is not one any person would be proud to own. You and your laughing pals will forever be known as the worst and most corrupt administration in US history. No amount of regret and no amount of "setting the stage" for democracy" in the world is going to cause anyone to forget your total failure as president.
June 11th, 2008 at 10:39 amBut Nancy pelosi will surely stand in the way of putting the 35 articles on the table.
June 11th, 2008 at 10:40 amI wish Cindy Sheehan were in the drivers seat. She would move things foward in the right direction.
IMPEACH!
http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/strollerderby/archive/tags/Arthur+Mkoyan/default.aspx
June 11th, 2008 at 10:41 ambarfly. well let's see I suggested that Obama had to create distance with Jeremiah Wright and he did.
I suggested that Obama should quit the church after the Pfleger comments and he did.
Here's a news flash: If Obama expects to be the next president, he'll need to go to Iraq before the end of the summer.
If I'm bringing up his lack of attention to the area, it will surface in the upcoming debates.
If Obama is making promises that he'll bring the troops home, people are eventually going to want to feel confident that he knows what he's doing and has a well thought out plan.
He needs to talk to military leaders in Iraq and more importantly he needs to have a face to face with the democratically elected leaders of Iraq to include them and more adequately assess the situation in Iraq.
Otherwise, the resulting withdrawal (and eventual power shifts) will look uninformed and reckless.
Or, maybe you're idea of waiting until Janurary and hopeing for the best will pan out.
June 11th, 2008 at 10:46 amAgain, a wingnut with bestiality on its mind.
What're the odds?
June 11th, 2008 at 10:47 amtheswan Says:
But Nancy pelosi will surely stand in the way of putting the 35 articles on the table.
Unfortunately, since she is an OathBreaker with no honor, this is expected behavior. At least this will be a permanent record of where our representatives stand.
Make note of it, and call them to let them know.
Too bad that in todays world liars and oathbreakers are no longer shunned and ostracized from civil society.
How far we have fallen.
June 11th, 2008 at 10:50 amGranted. But, honestly, wouldn't Obama benefit by having first hand knowledge of the situation in Iraq. Doesn't that make sense?
Wouldn't it make sense for him to go to Iraq and have a face to face with the democratically elected leadership?
Are you saying he wouldn't gain any insight?
At the very least wouldn't it help people considering to vote for Obama feel that he has a grasp of the situation in Iraq?
Troop withdrawal may be the right thing for America to do. But, it is not going to be a painless panacea.
Obama understands it, when he says we will get out as carefully as we got in recklessly.
Okay. That's a good promise, but the devil's in the details. How will it happen. Do you have the support of the leaders of Iraq? Have you discussed it the military leaders that will be overseeing the withdrawal?
I'll post the link next, but there are downsides to withdrawal, as the atrocities that occurred after the British left Basra. Obama needs to convince the American public that similar events won't transpire when we leave Iraq.
June 11th, 2008 at 10:55 amWow! So Obama has got to follow everything that backup suggests?
June 11th, 2008 at 11:00 amOr maybe, backup should just get over his or her self.
backup Says:
Who gives a crap what backup says. Once again idiot, George Bush has never set foot in Iran. Do you discount what he says because he's never been there? I didn't think so. You don't seem to grasp the irrelevancy of your arguement. Maybe because you see things from the Rightie perspective that flag pins, bumper stickers and horse and pony shows are more important than sound reasoning and fact. Maybe backup should pony-up and enlist. He'd obviously have a better perspective of things if he spent some time in the theatre. How about it backup-into-Bush's-lap? You've still got time to go to Iraq and kill some brown people in person rather than advocating it from your desktop.
June 11th, 2008 at 11:01 amralph the wonder llama Says:
crapcannon Says:
June 11th, 2008 at 10:36 am
Again, a wingnut with bestiality on its mind.
What’re the odds?
Thats toiletboy name changing since "johnboy" just got banned.
June 11th, 2008 at 11:01 amBut that's not the argument you made. You claimed that Inhofe's visits gave him some sort of credibility for knowing the geopgraphy, or at least the situation on the ground.
In fact, it's pretty clear that no VIP can get a clear view of the situation on the ground, because he cannot travel without heavy security, and he will not be taken to places that the military does not want him to go. His experience will be shaped by the military commanders overseeing his security. If they want him to see a rosy view, that's what they'll show him. If they want him to see strife (not likely, but what if...) then that's what he would see.
Yes, a personal visit would be valuable. The information and sense of a place one gathers cannot be gathered any other way.
But it's hardly a prerequisite for good judgment. And Inhofe is a poster boy for letting ideology cloud his judgment.
Gotta head to work now.
June 11th, 2008 at 11:01 amback up sez:
I’ll post the link next, but there are downsides to withdrawal, as the atrocities that occurred after the British left Basra. Obama needs to convince the American public that similar events won’t transpire when we leave Iraq.
How convenient you've forgotten the atrocities that are being committed now, or had been recently.
June 11th, 2008 at 11:02 amwhy is it that the bills can get passed on Mondays? I was half asleep when I heard on NPR that the bills get passed on Mondays cause of something, (I couldn't remember the name), they said it too fast but I know I wasn't dreaming, and that the Repukes were gonna take advantage of that. Can someone tell me what they could be talking about? I tried to find it on the NPR site but I wasn't successful.
June 11th, 2008 at 11:05 amI agree with this. And believe that Obama will need to make a trip to Iraq before the fall. We'll see.
Here's a link to the situation after the withdrawal in Basra. If it's not done right, similar things could happen after a nationwide withdrawal. We'll be as responsible for those as we were for the invasion.
http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/12/17/5860/
June 11th, 2008 at 11:06 amIn an interview with the UK Times, President Bush said he regrets his legacy in making the world believe “he was a ‘guy really anxious for war’ in Iraq.” But today, he added that “he had no regrets about the decision to invade Iraq.”
So he doesn't regret actually being anxious for war, just that everyone knows it.
http://progressiveworldreview.com
June 11th, 2008 at 11:06 amIn an interview with the UK Times, President Bush said he regrets his legacy in making the world believe “he was a ‘guy really anxious for war’ in Iraq.” But today, he added that “he had no regrets about the decision to invade Iraq.”
Maybe I'm just dense, but what the &*(#&$*(#&$*(#ing hell is the difference?
June 11th, 2008 at 11:06 amRE: spam @#30
June 11th, 2008 at 11:12 amThe Sooner we get spammers like jin*2 out of this site, the better off we will all be. Time to say enough is enough. What the heck are we even still doing allowing their spam on the site, let it deal with its own problems and lets deal with OUR OWN spammers by banning them permanently!
Here's an al jazeera video that shows conditions in Basra after the British withdrawal.
http://technorati.com/videos/youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DGj3W-wHYBKA
Is Obama aware of that situation and planning our nationwide withdrawal to avoid similar atrocities?
June 11th, 2008 at 11:15 amYou can concurrently not want war, but still feel that it's necessary.
June 11th, 2008 at 11:17 amRUCerious Says:
RE: spam @#30
June 11th, 2008 at 11:23 amAbsolutely. Get rid of this tool!!
Hey backup, we'd prefer if you'd just apologize for voting for Bush, if you don't know why read the Articles of Impeachment, and then you could just STFU.
June 11th, 2008 at 11:24 ambackup, that video makes my blood boil
June 11th, 2008 at 11:24 ambackup:
June 11th, 2008 at 11:24 amAre you implying this was "necessary"?
backup Says:
You can concurrently not want war, but still feel that it’s necessary.
June 11th, 2008 at 11:17 am
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The Iraq war was in no way, under any conceivable definition of the word, necessary.
June 11th, 2008 at 11:25 amWayne Says:
Zooey Says:
The House is set to vote today on whether to send articles of impeachment against President Bush to the House Judiciary Committee. The 35 articles, offered by Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-OH) and now co-sponsored by Rep. Robert Wexler (D-FL), must be acted upon within two days, under House rules.
We’ve been having a lively discussion about this at TheZoo. Check it out!
Everyone should call their rep and ask them to go on record, either support impeachment by co-sponsoring and demand restoration of our Laws and Constitution or admit they are OathBreakers, the lowest scum of the earth.
be proud of me, I did! :D
June 11th, 2008 at 11:27 amninique Says:
why is it that the bills can get passed on Mondays? I was half asleep when I heard on NPR that the bills get passed on Mondays cause of something, (I couldn’t remember the name), they said it too fast but I know I wasn’t dreaming, and that the Repukes were gonna take advantage of that. Can someone tell me what they could be talking about? I tried to find it on the NPR site but I wasn’t successful.
ok, so no one knows what the hell I'm talking about?
June 11th, 2008 at 11:28 ambackup Says:
You can concurrently not want war, but still feel that it’s necessary.
Yeah, its a good thing we got there before Saddam used those WMDs
OOpss... now where did those WMDs go Rummy?
"They're in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south, and north somewhat...." says Rummy.
Just where did we find those reasons we went to war backup?
June 11th, 2008 at 11:31 amCould you explain that?
toasterhead. In hindsight, we had more time to deal with Saddam without war. And he didn't have the WMD many were concerned he had.
But, at the time, most people thought he had significant WMD. And most considered him a threat, in that he could pass the suspected WMD to terror groups. In the aftermath of 9/11, pre-emption made more sense than it does today.
It was unnecessary. But, at the time, we weren't so sure. Hindsights 20/20. Judging decisions based on hindsight, doesn't seem realistic.
June 11th, 2008 at 11:32 amSome of these are out of context:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/war/wmdquotes.asp
But, if you doubt that most thought Saddam was a threat, read through them. You get the idea or what people were thinking at the time.
June 11th, 2008 at 11:34 ambackup Says:
Here’s an al jazeera video that shows conditions in Basra after the British withdrawal.
Is Obama aware of that situation and planning our nationwide withdrawal to avoid similar atrocities?
June 11th, 2008 at 11:15 am
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Hey, that's what happens when you destabilize a country, create a power vacuum, and arm sectarian death squads. Perhaps we should've thought of this before we invaded.
The proposed 16-month timetable for withdrawal should give plenty of time for Iraq's government to take control of the country and rein in these militias - at least, the ones not on the Dawa payroll.
However, violence against women like this will probably continue to happen for quite some time, until Iraq is able to establish a non-sectarian police force and judicial system. It's ye
I don't see why the U.S. military needs to police it any more than the U.S. military needs to police violence against women in Pakistan, Nigeria, Bangladesh, China, The Democratic Republic of Congo, Turkmenistan, Eritrea, Mexico, El Salvador, Saipan, or any of the other countries in which violence against women is endemic.
June 11th, 2008 at 11:34 ambackup Says:
But, at the time, most people thought he had significant WMD. And most considered him a threat, in that he could pass the suspected WMD to terror groups. In the aftermath of 9/11, pre-emption made more sense than it does today.
June 11th, 2008 at 11:32 am
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Yes, most people thought he had WMD, based on forged documents and lies fabricated by the Bush administration. Most people also thought Saddam Hussein planned 9/11, despite the fact that it was completely untrue.
A war based on lies can in no way be considered necessary, no matter how many people were fooled by the lies.
June 11th, 2008 at 11:38 amzzzzzzzzzzzz
June 11th, 2008 at 11:38 amtoasterhead. That's fair.
But, even considering McCain's 100 year comment, everybody wants the majority of our troops home. And they want the casualties to stop.
I just believe that Americans will not want withdrawal if it will cause significant atrocities in our wake. I believe they rather have a measured withdrawal and handover.
You understand the news media. If there are atrocities, human rights violations, genocide, etc. It's going to get reported.
Without planning to mitigate it, we might look as reckless coming out as we went in.
June 11th, 2008 at 11:39 ambackup Says:
But, if you doubt that most thought Saddam was a threat, read through them.
I already know that Bush deliberately lied to and mislead Congress and the American people, then illegally attacked Iraq.
See Article of Impeachment I --- Creating a Secret Propaganda Campaign to Manufacture a False Case for War Against Iraq.
June 11th, 2008 at 11:41 amhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_KEWUU33Lg&feature=related
Hillary Clinton had eight years in the white house before Bush. She new all the players. And she had no interest in supporting Bush initiatives.
But, she saw the same threat and recommended the same action. Based on her own intel. At the time.
June 11th, 2008 at 11:42 amJudging decisions that were based on lies and had no basis in fact seems quite realistic.
June 11th, 2008 at 11:43 ambackup: I understand how much you need to lick this administrations ass in order to maintain your identity and worldview but what is so hard about simply saying it was a bad decision that was poorly executed?
June 11th, 2008 at 11:45 amWayne. I think I'm close to supporting Impeachment. If Bush lied and committed crimes, he should be impeached and jailed.
Impeachment hearings might clear the air. I personally think democrats drag their heels on impeachment, because they don't have the goods. But, if they can pull it off, I'd admit to being wrong about Bush and the run up to the war. I've been wrong before.
June 11th, 2008 at 11:46 ambackup Says:
Hillary Clinton had eight years in the white house before Bush. She new all the players. And she had no interest in supporting Bush initiatives.
But, she saw the same threat and recommended the same action. Based on her own intel. At the time.
June 11th, 2008 at 11:42 am
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Bullshit. The only threat Hillary Clinton saw in 2002 was of looking weak on national defense, in a national climate that was gung-ho for war thanks to the lies of the administration.
June 11th, 2008 at 11:47 amWayne Says:
Any specialists in abnormal psychology in the house?
This has helped me greatly in understanding the Right's mindset:
The Authoritarians
It should be mandatory reading for Progressives in understanding those Regressives.
June 11th, 2008 at 11:47 amI think I've said that it was poorly executed. And in hindsight, it was a bad decision.
June 11th, 2008 at 11:48 ambackup is ignoring the complete failure in which this administration executed this conflict. If he wants to cling to the notion that a preemptive strike against a third world army by the most powerful nation in the world was justified I'm not going to push that issue with backup.
The complete disaster the implementation, execution, and planning of the conflict in Iraq lies squarely on the shoulders of this administration and those who supported it.
Read Phase II backup and we'll regroup about the first point in this post.
June 11th, 2008 at 11:52 ambackup seems to think he's relevant to the conversation, after sitting silently on his hands for seven years. You have forfeited the right to be considered an honest intellect.
Why don't you be silent; you were silent for seven years, and now that you're about to lose power, you're suddenly concerned for how the democrats will run things.
June 11th, 2008 at 11:52 amToo late for impeachment! Thanks to the dumb-ass Nancy Pelosi devil worshiper dyke, who took impeachment off the table, the idiot has been able to continue his criminal legacy. At this point, when the economy is in shambles and the criminal venture in Iraq has proven to be the greatest debacle in history, we have the impeachment resolution against the idiot. This idiot deserves to be EXECUTED! The rich are already richer and the entire Bush tenure is a great FAILURE! Colossal failure! It's time to NAIL THE COKEHEAD CRIMINAL IDIOT! NOW!
June 11th, 2008 at 11:53 amninique Says:
why is it that the bills can get passed on Mondays? I was half asleep when I heard on NPR that the bills get passed on Mondays cause of something, (I couldn’t remember the name), they said it too fast but I know I wasn’t dreaming, and that the Repukes were gonna take advantage of that. Can someone tell me what they could be talking about? I tried to find it on the NPR site but I wasn’t successful.
June 11th, 2008 at 11:05 am
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You can listen to the Power Breakfast segment again here - the minority leaders are using discharge petitions to bypass the committee system.
June 11th, 2008 at 11:54 amWayne Says:
OOpss… now where did those WMDs go Rummy?
“They’re in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south, and north somewhat….” says Rummy.
It's all becoming quite clear...Rummy bought his scooter so he track down those pesky WMD's in a more environmentally friendly fashion.
June 11th, 2008 at 11:54 amI heart you, toasterhead! thanx :D
June 11th, 2008 at 11:56 amAmandaBlow Says:
Too late for impeachment! Thanks to the dumb-ass Nancy Pelosi devil worshiper dyke
Flagged for homophobic statement.
Note to amanda:
June 11th, 2008 at 12:00 pmA true progressive embraces all sexual orientations. Any person who stoops to calling a woman a "dyke" is probably a closet republican with sexual identity issues.
That might make sense, until you consider that I've been posting here since before the '06 elections.
Maybe I just had incredible foresight that this day would come.
I apologize if I said offensive things to you in the past, my friend. If you're willing to look beyond it, I'd like to discuss issues. I'm open to it. And, I will understand if you're not.
Peace.
June 11th, 2008 at 12:00 pmok, well that's what I heard! I heard they are using discharged petitions to pass their wacky ideas.
June 11th, 2008 at 12:00 pmoh, and did you hear that? they're going to discharge one republican bill after another until it gets passed!
June 11th, 2008 at 12:07 pmand he said the republicans have been working on this for weeks!
June 11th, 2008 at 12:08 pmthe minority leaders are using discharge petitions to bypass the committee system.
how much control do we really have anyway?
June 11th, 2008 at 12:09 pm#121 ninique, in answer to your question I offer my comment....None, with piss on the constitution palosi, queen of the house to protect king george the dumb we have no control....We, as of today have no voice and our constitution has been shit on by all the reich winger's and some of the most powerful in our own party..I will now go back to weeding my garden and shuttin off my computer or perhap's I will take up knitting again.....Blessing and Peace..
June 11th, 2008 at 12:28 pmI trie to learn to knit but I couldn't get the hang of it keeping uniform in every loop! Do you have any jasmines? the night jasmie smells the best! anyways, I agree with you; we're all f@#ked!
June 11th, 2008 at 12:35 pmExit Stage Left
We all know Pelosi is married and straight. I am not homophobic. The term "dyke" in my statement does not arise out of homophobia. I was just reading an article on Mary Cheney and her desire to invade Iran. Just couldn't keep the word "dyke" away from my thoughts.
June 11th, 2008 at 12:35 pmoops, I meant jasmine
June 11th, 2008 at 12:35 pmdamn, oops, I meant tried!
June 11th, 2008 at 12:36 pmyeah, but you know, it's not the best word to use regardless. If you show ignorance and not tolerance does that make you look any better that her?
June 11th, 2008 at 12:38 pmninique, no on the jasmin, lot's of lavender, wave petunias, heather and ton's of weed's that flower...Been to cold and wet to keep up this spring...My tiny yard is a mess..Good weather suposto arrive starting tomorrow.....Blessings...Peace
June 11th, 2008 at 12:42 pmWhat did we miss...?
Unborn Personhood Amendment Makes Colorado Ballot
By Randy Hall
(CNSNews.com) - An amendment to the Colorado Constitution that defines a "person" as "any human being from the moment of fertilization" will go before state voters in the Nov. 4 general election.
Amendment 48, entitled "Definition of a Person," was approved for a statewide vote on Thursday by Colorado Secretary of State Mike Coffman, whose office validated 103,000 signatures on petitions for the ballot initiative -- 27,000 more than required.
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June 11th, 2008 at 12:48 pmSick. These people are sick. Next thing you know, it'll be illegal to use a loofah - because it destroys life in the form of skin cells.
Leftside Annie Says:
Next thing you know, it’ll be illegal to use a loofah - because it destroys life in the form of skin cells.
In which case, Billo is up shits creek :)~
June 11th, 2008 at 12:55 pmAmandaBlow Says:
June 11th, 2008 at 12:56 pmWe all know Pelosi is married and straight. I am not homophobic. The term “dyke” in my statement does not arise out of homophobia. I was just reading an article on Mary Cheney and her desire to invade Iran. Just couldn’t keep the word “dyke” away from my thoughts.
AmandaBlow Says:
We all know Pelosi is married and straight. I am not homophobic. The term “dyke” in my statement does not arise out of homophobia. I was just reading an article on Mary Cheney and her desire to invade Iran. Just couldn’t keep the word “dyke” away from my thoughts.
Oopsie..I hit the wrong button when trying to italicize...
As the proud father of a wonderful,brilliant and accomplished young gay woman I reserve the right to call out anyone using homophobic slurs. Especially on a progressive blog.
June 11th, 2008 at 12:58 pmThank's for the catch and post Leftside Annie....It has become way to bizarr for this old witch....The past few day's of political crap have left me with a feeling of hopeless..I keep thinking what the hell is wrong with all these people that they want to move us all back to the dark age's or bomb everything into a glass parking lot....Have a good day all, if possible....Later....Blessings and Peace, a dream of mine.
June 11th, 2008 at 1:01 pmExit Stage Left Says:
As the proud father of a wonderful,brilliant and accomplished young gay woman I reserve the right to call out anyone using homophobic slurs. Especially on a progressive blog.
Absolutely, although I've given up pointing out the homophobia in all the comments about Republican "closeted gay" behavior.
June 11th, 2008 at 1:05 pmgummitch Says:
I’ve given up pointing out the homophobia in all the comments about Republican “closeted gay” behavior.
My only problem with closeted gay repukes is when they take public positions against gay rights, gay marriage, etc.
June 11th, 2008 at 1:12 pmbackup Says:
Say hello to your new found irrelevancy.
June 11th, 2008 at 2:18 pmbackup:
That might make sense, until you consider that I’ve been posting here since before the ‘06 elections.
Maybe I just had incredible foresight that this day would come.
I apologize if I said offensive things to you in the past, my friend. If you’re willing to look beyond it, I’d like to discuss issues. I’m open to it. And, I will understand if you’re not.
Peace.
First you claim I'm not making sense, then you say "peace?"
Sorry, no peace for you, if you continue to post here. I'm sure your concerned act will play well on right-wing sites, so why not go there, and save us having to witness your fake concern. And if it's too much to figure out, I was referring to all republicans and conservatives, so you see, you're the one not making sense. You and your ilk have squandered the right to be taken seriously with the silence of seven years; when Bush was busy trashing the Constitution, where were you, and your "concern"?
June 11th, 2008 at 2:44 pmbarfly. I respect your right to express your opinion whether you make sense or not.
June 11th, 2008 at 2:49 pm>But, come to find out, Inhofe has been to
>Iraq nine times in the last 5 years.
I dont know this for a fact, but given the ilk this deluded idiot usually consorts with (big oil), hes probably watching his investments AND very likely going on the behest of oil companies..with US footing the bill..
June 11th, 2008 at 4:24 pmbackup Says:
barfly. I respect your right to express your opinion whether you make sense or not.
And you have my permission to STFU. You've squandered the right to be taken seriously, child.
June 11th, 2008 at 4:37 pmRumsfeld's new Vespa scooter is actually his "getaway" scooter, for when war crimes prosecutors show up at his doorstep.
I mean, who would suspect Rumsfeld of fleeing on a scooter.
With a helmet on and scooting out the back door of his multi-million dollar mansion outside Washington D.C., who would ever imagine that it was Donald Rumsfeld riding a motor scooter, being such a doddering old man, and all?
Then, after Rumsfeld made good on his escape, he'd go join George W. Bush and the rest of his family on their 100,000 acre ranch in Paragua.
You just know that all the culture of corruption Republicans, who've done so much damage to our democracy over the past 7 1/2 years, have their escape plans mapped out and ready to initiate...just in case...Barack Obama becomes president (one who will stop stone-walling Democratic investigations in Congress) and one who has his Justice Department launch full-scale investigations into all the crimes committed by these culture of corruption, deceit and obfuscation Republicans.
June 11th, 2008 at 10:22 pmbarfly. your insults affect me, but only when I consider the pain of the inner turmoil you must be going through.
I hope you find peace, my friend. You deserve it. :)
June 12th, 2008 at 12:26 amBlogwhoring...so sorry.
You're gonna love this!
Why are YOU voting Republican?
June 12th, 2008 at 12:40 am