Army public affairs office promotes ‘Obama = surrender’ talking point.
Army public affairs office promotes ‘Obama = surrender’ talking point.
The Army public affairs office publishes a daily roundup of Army-related news, mostly linking to “mainstream media articles, Army press releases, foreign media stories and blogs.” A link in Tuesday’s round-up, however, was “unusual” for its “patent political bias.” It read: “Obama: World peace thru surrender (KDIHH).” Phillip Carter at the Washington Post notes what’s wrong with this story:
Seriously? Have any of these people actually read the Obama defense policy papers or speeches — or are they simply going on what they hear on Fox News and the Limbaugh network?
And more to the point, why is the Army’s official in-house public affairs shop linking to this kind of stuff? Just a few weeks ago, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff told all hands to stay out of politics. … Unfortunately, the message didn’t get to through to the Army.
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More to the point, Pyr. What business does the Army’s public affiars office have expressing a political opinion on something as important as the Presidential election? NONE!!!!
June 12th, 2008 at 3:30 pm#1: “some mindless prattle…”
– - Hillary’s only “military experience” was ducking bullets and bombs on a runway in Serbia.
Oh, and your hair’s on fire.
June 12th, 2008 at 3:31 pmPrytania — off-topic much?
June 12th, 2008 at 3:32 pm#1 FLAGGED… moving on.
June 12th, 2008 at 3:35 pmPrytania Says
June 12th, 2008 at 3:27 pm
Hillary would have done a better job if she would have been the nominee. What experience does Obama have in running something as important as the military? NONE!!!
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I must have missed something. Could you elaborate on Hillary’s military experience?
Or maybe it’s that Hillary has experience running “something as important as” the military; not necessarily the military itself. OK, I give — what might that be?
June 12th, 2008 at 3:35 pmMethinks some major should in for a major ass whuppin, and a demotion.
June 12th, 2008 at 3:37 pmI guess anyone associated with the current regime knows that their time is almost up, so they’re pulling out all the stops to try and get McSame in office so they know they have at least 4 more years to destroy the Constitution and line their own pockets.
June 12th, 2008 at 3:37 pm.
Are we really that surprised by this? After all, the Army has a history of being Loyal Christians(R) who feed from the Corporate dollars funneled to them via our Congress?
I mean, what kind of contracts can the army obtain if there’s peace in the world? I mean, who proft$ from peace?
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June 12th, 2008 at 3:38 pmFor #1 Prytania: – WTF!!?
And just waht military experience does Sen CLinton ahve, again?
And for that matter, when did Sen McCain ever RUN the military?
Did you honestly think about the comment before posting? If you didn’t, I could forgive you a moment of insanity. If you did think it thru, then …WTF!!!?
June 12th, 2008 at 3:38 pmSwiftboating by the army?
Me thinks the Bush criminal gang has sent out the word to their mafia members to make sure McSame gets to bomb Iran.
June 12th, 2008 at 3:38 pm“Unfortunately, the message didn’t get to through to the Army.”
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The Army is probably just going along with the latest propaganda catapulting campaign. Bushco orders trump those from the Chairman of the JCOS.
June 12th, 2008 at 3:39 pmArmy public affairs = propaganda(.)
June 12th, 2008 at 3:39 pmBy the way, look for heads to roll on this one. If it’s one thing the military hates is being made to look stupid. They will fire someone just to make it seem as if they are on the up-and-up!
June 12th, 2008 at 3:39 pm#1: What experience does Obama have in running something as important as the military? NONE!!!
– - FDR had no military experience prior to being elected. Pretty fair president.
June 12th, 2008 at 3:41 pmReagan had no military experience either, unless you count acting in war movies.
Pssst, Reagan’s your only GOP hero the past century.
Dr. Hussein Matt Says
June 12th, 2008 at 3:38 pm
Southernidiot, errrrrr, mindless prattle is just attempting to take the thread off-topic. Flag, ignore, move on…..
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You’re right. It was just so incredibly off the wall, even for a troll, that it caught me by surprise.
June 12th, 2008 at 3:41 pmfollow the article links to a page called http://www.kneedeepinthehooah.com/2008/06/09/obama-world-peace-thru-surrender/, which links to another page from http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htlead/articles/20080609.aspx
A site that is from :
Welcome to
StrategyWorld.com
The very best in online wargaming and military news.
A gaming site??
June 12th, 2008 at 3:43 pmHmmm, something ain’t right here…
misshusseinmolly,
The Fascists are hiring professional TROLLS to clutter the Blogs…
FLAG ‘EM and move on… let the site monitors clean up the mess.
June 12th, 2008 at 3:44 pmIf it’s experience we want, I’ll take Obama’s inner city community organizing experience over McIIIrd’s command of a frikkin training unit any day.
June 12th, 2008 at 3:45 pmBeing held captive in a hotel is not a qualifying resume line.
and prytania, just what are YOUR military experiences?
Go phuck yourself.
June 12th, 2008 at 3:46 pmCome on Obama, get yourself an old military man as VP so you can have an attack dog to go after these defense industry propoganda pushing scumbags. If he gets an ex military figure for VP , McCain is a goner
June 12th, 2008 at 3:48 pm69 says something stupid, again.
Kid, go outside and play…on a busy highway.
Your mom is gonna be soooo pissed when she sees all the peanut butter on her keyboard.
June 12th, 2008 at 3:48 pm69 Says:
The whole military should do everything in its power to get McCain elected.
Just like a neocon.
Advocate a direct violation of the law.
Flagged for such,
June 12th, 2008 at 3:49 pmChocolate Jesus Says:
If he gets an ex military figure for VP , McCain is a goner
Actually, if McCain doesn’t shut his mouth, Obama could choose a potted plant for VP and McCain is a goner.
McCain: “Thats not real important”
BTW, KO is going to have a special comment about that tonight.
June 12th, 2008 at 3:58 pmThe Army is exactly right! That’s why I’m voting Republican!
June 12th, 2008 at 3:59 pmDon’t want to make a kid cry….but then again you cry in your pillow every night.
June 12th, 2008 at 4:00 pm69 Says:
You’re a Liberal and that the best insulting you can do? I’m very disappointed.
So the Army should break federal law to appoint another King? Is that what will make you shut up? It seems like you don’t want to live in this country, so please go. I hear plane rides to Saudi Arabia are cheap this time of year – and they have kings there for your to worship.
No more insulting is needed. Everytime you write something you insult the American educational system.
June 12th, 2008 at 4:05 pmChocolate Jesus Says:
Come on Obama, get yourself an old military man as VP so you can have an attack dog to go after these defense industry propoganda pushing scumbags. If he gets an ex military figure for VP , McCain is a goner
June 12th, 2008 at 3:48 pm
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Much as I’d hate to lose Senator Webb after just two years in the seat, he would be a fantastic choice for the slot.
And after the election, Chuck Hagel for SecDef.
June 12th, 2008 at 4:05 pmRed Pill Says:
Violating the law is exactly right!That’s why I’m voting Republican!
June 12th, 2008 at 4:10 pmPrytania Says:
Hillary served on the Armed Forces Board in the Senate for the poast six years.
During which time, troops were not given full body armor, war wounded were treated like crap, etc, etc.
How is Hillary more “experienced” again?
June 12th, 2008 at 4:16 pmOur troll is losing ground very quickly. He could be the spokesperson for the Low Information Voters (LIV). I hope they don’t hold him back this year again. Having to re-take 8th grade six times is hard to explain when the relatives ask.
June 12th, 2008 at 4:21 pmfrom randi rhodes:
And I’ve included a little IQ test for you today.
Test your Candidate IQ!
Grandpa
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-mccain-quiz,0,5678938.triviaquiz
Obama
June 12th, 2008 at 4:24 pmhttp://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/chi-obama-quiz,0,1295895.triviaquiz
also:
New polling shows Obama beating McCain in the General Election, but remember it’s just a snapshot in time. We have work to do. Right wing Talk Shows are smearing Obama everyday with lies and even allegations of “terrorist hand signals”. Sheesh. Desperate men do desperate things.
Obama has set up a website for you to report any smears and to fact check the ones that are already out there.
http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/fightthesmearshome/
June 12th, 2008 at 4:25 pmExperience aside (It’s a moot point because Hillary’s done and McCain can’t complete a sentence without contradicting himself.)the problem is the thinking that withdrawal=surrender. Perhaps we can all just shout, in unison:
WHO WOULD WE SURRENDER TO???!!!
BTW. A “full, immediate withdrawal” is logistically impossible and no rational person would suggest otherwise. And Obama would have to propose an invasion of Europe to compete with the reckless pursuit of mayhem displayed by “Plane Crash McCain”.
June 12th, 2008 at 4:27 pmTo Wayne@35:
Thanks, buddy! Did you follow the link in my post, or did you just jump to conclusions?
June 12th, 2008 at 4:27 pmFor #34 Prytania:
Might I ask you about the term “Obama cutting and running”?
OK?…here goes..
Are you implying that we should throw more perfectly good human lives (pricelss) and more monetary treasure at a war that was started based on LIES?
If so, just how many are you willing to see sacrificed so that the US can say we didn’t cut and run? 1000 more? 4000 more? Maybe 10,000? At which point is it worth it? Please base all your answers with the background that we lied our way into this war.
Thank you.
June 12th, 2008 at 4:29 pmThe military complex is under the impression that the funding for the war is an entitlement program. Someone should inform them otherwise.
Guess they will do anyting to keep the gravy train rolling and to hell with the troops suffering more time than necessary overseas, not to mention the casualty count. After all, was is big business!
June 12th, 2008 at 4:32 pmPrytania: You stepped over the bounds of decency with your racist crap posted in the Obama “Baby Mama” thread.
You are flagged, and I hope they ban you, you racist scum.
June 12th, 2008 at 4:35 pmAfter taking a few minutes to read deeper into the thread:
Give it up, Purtyranny. Nothing that Obama has proposed includes a precipitous withdrawal under worsening conditions. “Cut and run” is not only a stupid saying, it’s a outright lie in this context.
If you hate him because he’s a “librul”, or even because he’s black, say so and shut up. There’s no need to make sh!t up.
June 12th, 2008 at 4:40 pmWhat the flying fck is up with the trolls today?
Ohhhhhh, that’s right. School’s out for the summer.
June 12th, 2008 at 4:41 pmI guess we should get ready for the onslaught of stupidity until fall.
What Leftside Annie just said…
The grunts dying in Iraq are ready to come home, make no mistake.
Why does anyone NOT putting their life on the line daily feel they have any right to determine how long these kids should stay and face death daily?
I mean this sincerely…if you aren’t willing to go serve in this illegal invasion, just STFU. You have no right to an opinion when it comes to our young living or dying. NONE.
June 12th, 2008 at 4:46 pmIf you want someone to die, start with the Young Republicans. You can bet your Troll asses that none of them are in Iraq.
Obama = surrendering war profits.
June 12th, 2008 at 4:49 pmPrytania Says:
Where did I say anything about Mc Cain? And my first post is not off-topic. The topic is Obama cut and running. I don’t think Obama has enough(any)experience running something as important as the millitary. Hillary served on the Armed Forces Board in the Senate for the poast six years. She knows better than to cut and run. That gives her more experience than Obama. It’s also why she lost. Most of you agree with Obama more than you do Hillary.
Talk about flawed logic! What military (or other) experience did dubya bring to the table? That didn’t seem to bother you republic party types when you drooled all over his sorry arse.
June 12th, 2008 at 4:57 pmThose of us who are loyal to The Constitution must put a stop to this sort of rhetoric. We just cannot allow anybody to disparage a presidential candidate like this. Especially when the warmonger name calling is coming from the Army.
I have thought for some time that there is a very strong bond between the government and corporations. They live for each other. The demos (as in democracy) is getting screwed.
The Republic is dying. Freedom is being lost. What form of goverment marries government with business. You guessed it … fascism.
Mussolini defined fascism as being a collectivistic ideology in opposition to socialism, classical liberalism, democracy and individualism. He wrote in The Doctrine of Fascism:
Since Mussolini, there have been many conflicting definitions of the term fascism. Former Columbia University Professor Robert O. Paxton has written that:
Paxton further defines fascism’s essence as:
This sounds exactly like the neocon talking points. Get rid of the Republicans.
June 12th, 2008 at 5:03 pmTwo of the Most Experienced people in Washington…Rumsfeld and Cheney….have been So wrong So often, it give Experience a bad name.
I’ll go with Judgement…and the ability to really listen to people who know what they are talking about.
June 12th, 2008 at 5:03 pmRed Pill , sorry I did jump to conclusion without reading the link. Oops.
June 12th, 2008 at 5:04 pmupside99 Says:
Talk about flawed logic! What military (or other) experience did dubya bring to the table? That didn’t seem to bother you republic party types when you drooled all over his sorry arse.
Well, he had run a couple of failed businesses and he was the governor of a state in which governors have almost no real authority. Just the kind of experience needed!
June 12th, 2008 at 5:09 pmWhen TP ran the headline weeks ago saying “the Pentagon to stop propaganda”, I said “WRONG. Saying they are stopping is not stopping. Look at their history.” I love saying “I told you so.”!
June 12th, 2008 at 5:28 pmWayne & Red Pill, shake hands and get back to your keyboards. We are bloggers, the new defense against fascism, neocons and republiscums. We will fight for truth, justice and the American way of life. I know, things happen that make up too ready to jump on a perceived troll comment.
Keep up your good works.
June 12th, 2008 at 5:30 pmSaint Augustine Says:
We will fight for truth, justice and the American way of life.
Did Superman’s people give you permission to use that?
June 12th, 2008 at 5:39 pmThis is why we have have courts martial and article 15’s!
June 12th, 2008 at 5:48 pmBush was a second term Governor of Texas. Obama has won one Senate race.
Soon to be one Senate race and One Presidential race… and he’ll do infinetly better than the two term gov’ner. How could he not?
June 12th, 2008 at 5:51 pmWayne,
We’re cool, brother. I’m glad we’re on the same team!
Obama 2008!
June 12th, 2008 at 5:54 pmPyro says:
..Bush was a second term Governor of Texas. Obama has won one Senate race.
well, having spent a lot of time in Texas, as Gummitch said earlier, the Governor has almost no power and it is a PR job, which fits Dubya to a T.
Oh, and he also bankrupted 2 companies and then was bought into the Texas Rangers baseball team by Pappy, who also, with his friends at the Carlyle Group got him into and out of one of his ‘awl’ companies.
Add that to his losing a race for a seat in the State House in Texas and his deciding to not finish his tour with the ANGUS during Vietnam, gives him just the credentials you are looking for, I guess.
June 12th, 2008 at 6:08 pmKeith Says:
Saint Augustine Says: We will fight for truth, justice and the American way of life.
Did Superman’s people give you permission to use that?
My father, Jor-El instructed me to use my life for the good of mankind. My adopted parents, Jonathan and Martha Kent taught me about American values. I let MY people use those words.
But who cares? Pfffft(that was the sound of a pop top opening), I’m retired now, acting as the Patron Saint of Breweries in a sleepy little drinking town masquerading as a fishing village.
June 12th, 2008 at 6:09 pmPyro. If you think Obama lacks experience then say so and shut up. Stop parroting, or even worse devising, blatant lies about surrender.
Go to his web site. Watch his speeches. Whatever. But your “cut and run” rhetoric is straight from the hysterical righties like Rush and Bill0. The facts of Obama’s actual positions don’t match their schtick.
June 12th, 2008 at 6:22 pmSaint Augustine:
June 12th, 2008 at 6:26 pmSo you live in Kennedrunksnort Maine as well?
dbadass, unfortunately age is creeping up on me. I’ve become a three beer man now; Drink one, Spill one and Leave one. The real bother is the reversing of the beer/piss ratio. I usta coulda drank 4 or 5 beers before I needed to piss. Things are so tight that I piss in a bucket when I drink to save water by not flushing so often.
I remember the wise words of a piano player from Tampa, Pat Cole Henry: Drinkers Adjust.
June 12th, 2008 at 8:30 pmThis is exactly why you don’t politicize the military because you have stupid idiots like this guy making statements that are not only wrong, but against the Uniform Code of Military Justice, which is Army law. This person should be charge with sedition for making such a openly political statement. I am a former Army Legal Specialist and I know that Army officers are strictly prohibited from making political statement whether on or off duty. This person is expressing a personal opinion which is based on the propaganda that is spread by Fox News and shows like Rush Limbaugh.
What this idiot doesn’t realize beside breaking military law is, this is dangerous thinking. When you have military officers getting involved in civilian politics it could lead to anarchy. Our system of government is set up so that civilians controll the military and not the other way around because the founding fathers realized that a political military could overthrow the government if it were to become politically active. That is why you have military coups in third world countries and places like China. If the Chinese military hadn’t been so politically connected to the government, then Tenimen Square would have never happened.
This solder needs to be prosecuted to show the rest of the military that getting involved in civilian politcal affairs is strictly prohibited. Also this fool doesn’t understand that Sen. Obama might become President and as such will hold his career in his hands. If I were still serving and were his legal specialist, I would have made sure he was prosecuted to the fullest extent on the law. I was the commanding officers legal representative and I was very very strict about military justice and discipline. This man is not only a fool, but a danger to our democracy and needs to be removed from the ranks of the United States Army.
June 13th, 2008 at 12:41 amPrytania: You say that you will not vote for Obama because he does not have the experience to fix what Bush “Phucked up”. But you will vote for McCain, who has vowed to not change anything. I’m reaching for the logic on that.
What the President does, if he knows what his job entails, is set policy. Obama has said that, in effect he will direct the military to do their job and plan a withdrawal. Seems right to me. And Obama will field a team of SecDef, Sec of State, etc which will carry out his policies. He will provide the judgement, after hearing all sides to the issues, to make the right decisions. At least I believe he will do that, and that’s why I will vote for him….
June 13th, 2008 at 8:02 am