Bush, Cheney, and Rice sink to lowest ratings ever.
Bush, Cheney, and Rice sink to lowest ratings ever.
A new Harris poll finds that President Bush, Vice President Cheney, and Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice are now registering their lowest approval ratings ever. Some highlights:
– President Bush’s latest ratings are 24 percent positive and fully 75 percent negative. Previously, his worst numbers were 26 percent positive and 72 percent negative in April of this year. His ratings are substantially worse than those of any president, except for Jimmy Carter (22%-77% in July 1980), since Harris first started measuring them in 1963.
– Vice President Cheney’s ratings are even worse, 18 percent positive and 74 percent negative, compared to his previous low of 21 percent positive, 74 percent negative last July.
– Secretary of State Rice’s ratings are much better than those of the President and Vice President, but also have fallen to their lowest point ever, 39 percent positive and 54 percent negative, compared to 42 percent positive and 51 percent negative last October.
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Isn't it about time that this show got cancelled?
June 12th, 2008 at 11:55 amWorst.....President......Ever.....
Fact.
June 12th, 2008 at 11:55 amDick: "So?"
Don't worry guys... as Tony Snow would say, "it's just a number."
PEACE
June 12th, 2008 at 11:56 amMore confirmation that the surge worked. Mission Accomplished
June 12th, 2008 at 11:57 amsarc/off
Really surprised that 24% of those polled are that stupid to think anything positive about this War Criminal.
I guess they like the cool aid....and lies, and torture, and corruption, and cronyism, and war crimes, and illegal wars, and death, and destruction, and high gas prices, and high food prices...etc. etc. etc.
June 12th, 2008 at 11:58 amCongress!
Congress!
Congress!
What about Congress' approval ratings?
(there, that should take care of the troll infestation)
June 12th, 2008 at 11:58 amWell, this confirms it: McOld has found his running mate--
McOld-Rice 2008: 20th century leadership for the 21st century!
June 12th, 2008 at 11:59 amThese are the same low-life scum that believes Faux is a legitimate "news" source and that Drugbaugh is some sort of hero.
June 12th, 2008 at 11:59 amHow long till some freak shows up to make the lame "but what able Congressional approval ratings" argument?
June 12th, 2008 at 12:00 pmbut,but,but...
June 12th, 2008 at 12:00 pmhe's still got rodgers and trolls support!!!
take care
tony and lido
Once again the American people come through! You Cannot fool all of the people all of the time! Now if only Congress would be brave enough to stand up, follow the Honorable Dennis Kucinich's example and Impeach Cheney and Bush and Save the Constitution!
June 12th, 2008 at 12:01 pmoh crap. i thought they were aboard the USS Mission Destroy America.
June 12th, 2008 at 12:04 pmyeah, but they still love barney!
June 12th, 2008 at 12:04 pmit's no secret bush is the absolute worst.
but would we be sitting here about to elect our fist black president if he wasn't? how cool is that going to be?
it's the most positive spin on his presidency i can think of.
June 12th, 2008 at 12:06 pmhe past Nixon?
June 12th, 2008 at 12:08 pmCan't Say I'ts not true, but I can say I know of a better poll.
June 12th, 2008 at 12:10 pmhttp://www.votenic.com
They Say It's run by a Kid.
Once again, I'm amazed that the positive ratings are so high for these treasonous fascists. 24% and 18% - people that are either: 1) Equally as greedy, corrupt, immoral and un-American as Bush/Cheney, or 2) Just too stupid to know any better.
June 12th, 2008 at 12:12 pmCongress, with both houses ruled by democrat majorities have an approval rating of 13%! Link:
June 12th, 2008 at 12:13 pm
The link to poll data for Congress approval:
June 12th, 2008 at 12:14 pm
Link doesn't seem to work well:
http://www.pollingreport.com/CongJob.htm
June 12th, 2008 at 12:14 pm
Exactly 13 minutes, apparently.
I guess they don't mind being predictable.
What should bother them is being predictably stupid.
June 12th, 2008 at 12:16 pmthe majority of congress needs to go. that means all of them.
they failed this country and they need to be removed.
same thing with all the press who thought challenging the bush admin on thier 'facts' was the wrong thing to do.
it's morning in america and time to vanquish the criminals who preside over us.
June 12th, 2008 at 12:17 pmI would say this is a good sign to Congress that the American People are not fooled by this Administration anymore. So what lame excuse are they going to come up with to Not put the Articles of Impeachment up for a debate???
Are they going to completely ignore us, I won't let them. If I have to email all of them every single day, I will. How many different ways do they want to hear from the citizens WE ARE NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE>>>
Good Day to all:)
June 12th, 2008 at 12:17 pmOh, and the troll gets extra bonus points for using the ignorant "democrat majorities" construction.
June 12th, 2008 at 12:17 pmDo people who approved right after 9/11/2001 feel duped?
Has anyone gone so high to so low? (Besides BritSpears)
June 12th, 2008 at 12:17 pmGodwin's Law decrees that the trollpup loses the debate. (Not that there ever much doubt.)
By the way, someone should tell the troll that placing one's head up one's own ass is NOT a "69".
Technically, it's a "Zero".
June 12th, 2008 at 12:21 pm69 the idiot says - So hitleresque of you.
Nice, and that coming from a little fascist nazi appeaser.
June 12th, 2008 at 12:24 pmF U 69
Walt is correct.
The remaining small amount of people who support Bush are most likely very greedy, or too stupid to know any better.
Which one are U?
June 12th, 2008 at 12:25 pmWelcome to Troll Central! A roach bomb must have gone off and their crawling out of the woodwork.
Let the flagging begin!
PEACE
June 12th, 2008 at 12:26 pmThe lonely 24 and 18 percent are the people that refuse to admit that they were wrong in voting for them. Yes, they still watch fox.
June 12th, 2008 at 12:28 pmThere are people, believe it or not, that will never admit that they are or have ever been, wrong.
It just goes to show that you can't fool all of the people all of the time...However...
You CAN fool about 24% of the people ALL the time!
That's why as long as there are people there will always be conmen
June 12th, 2008 at 12:29 pm(and conwomen in the case of Condiliar Wrong)
CONYERS, LISTEN UP:
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/6/10/123917/099
Force Peloser to recuse herself and get on with the impeachment already!!
Hey, 69, you left out the part where the reason the Democratically controlled congress has such low numbers is because their majority came about as a repudiation of Bush and the Republican Party in 2006. They haven't lived up to it, they haven't challenged Bush enough, so we're P1SSED. If they would just do their jobs and impeach the SOB their approval ratings would skyrocket with each new piece of evidence of Bush and Cheney's crimes they unearthed.
June 12th, 2008 at 12:29 pmOh and while your at it, let's impeach her as well, she deserves it.
June 12th, 2008 at 12:30 pmDespite the people of the United States revealing their displeasure at the Bush administration, the Democrats, including Barack Obama, still refuses to impeach perhaps the most criminal administration in this country's history. It is little wonder that many people regard the Democrats as legitimizing the mistakes of the Bush administration and ignoring Article II Section 4 of the U.S. Constitution. Why has not the media put Obama's feet to the fire by demanding to know why he has not supported Kucinich's 35[!] Articles of Impeachment against both Bush and Cheney? Could the reason be due to political expediency on the part of this alleged agent of hope and change?
June 12th, 2008 at 12:30 pmIf this was posted on a trend line, Dubya and Darth may well hit single digits before November.
Especially if the recent actions and information continue to hit the MSM.
June 12th, 2008 at 12:33 pmErroll,
June 12th, 2008 at 12:34 pmI'm an Obama support, and I agree wholeheartedly. I would LOVE to hear him explain why he thinks they should not be impeached. He's a politician, just like all of them, so he'd never explain why he doesn't support K's 35. It'd just be some BS Ford song-and-dance about letting the nation heal etc etc.
One fourth. There's something fitting about dipping below 25%. The "bottom quarter" has a nice ring to it. But, who are these 25%ers? Here are the groups which supply their ranks.
1. Sadists.
2. Bigots.
3. Bumpkins.
4. Bullies.
5. Home"schoolers" with parents of below average intelligence/ability.
6. Hayseeds.
7. Idiots.
8. Oil execs.
9. War profiteers.
10. People who haven't bathed in 14 years because running water whispers and tells them to do bad things.
(NOTE: I'm sure that all of the above groups contain people who are smart and compassionate enough to realize Bush should never, ever, have been President. To those good people I apologize, but, the 25%ers can go to Hell for all I care.)
June 12th, 2008 at 12:34 pm*Obama supporter
June 12th, 2008 at 12:34 pmPete,
June 12th, 2008 at 12:35 pmDon't worry, they will...
Can you spell F A I L U R E??????
June 12th, 2008 at 12:39 pmKeereist, rogerregor, are you bragging about the 32, 32, 28% approval ratings?
June 12th, 2008 at 12:40 pmBWAHAHAHAHA!
R-2 thinks it makes his side look better to post results from other polls (using other methodologies, no doubt -- but let's not get into that -- might confuse the poor bastid) that show Bush's approval raings as high as 32%!
Even the best polls R-2 can find don't give Bush approval of a third of the nation!
BWAHAHAHAHAHA!
Thanks for the laugh, R-2.
June 12th, 2008 at 12:42 pmWe know the other numbers, troll, but we're talking about the latest Harris poll.
June 12th, 2008 at 12:42 pmUh huh, rogerse, we know. We know TP is showing us results from one poll and there are obviously others. The point is that this is the lowest any poll has had Bush and Cheney at.
Oh and by the way, you're still an idiot. 28%/32%/31% approve of his job as President. That is PATHETIC. If you got a 28% approval rating at whatever job you work at, you'd be fired right? If you got 31% on an exam, you'd fail, RIGHT? If you only hit a target 32% of the time that makes you a really sh1tty shot doesn't it?
2/3s of this country, a CLEAR MAJORITY, disapproves of him as Prez. TWO FU(KING THIRDS. THATS 200 Million PEOPLE technically, if you extrapolate the 1000 they talked to to the other 300 million of us (which is what polls are supposed to do).
You really are a moron.
June 12th, 2008 at 12:43 pmAh, yes. Rogers, what's yer point, buddy? The difference between 28% and 32% approval...?
OK. I understand that it must be very difficult for you, defending the indefensible and all...
There, there. Why don't you take the afternoon off and rest?
June 12th, 2008 at 12:45 pm...his approval ratings have never been sustained below %28...
Woot, Rogers - now THAT is sumpin' to brag about!!!
YAY CHIMPY!!!!!
June 12th, 2008 at 12:50 pmRx2 tries and tries to prop up his King, but to no avail. History will scorn Bush and his followers (that means you Rx2). You will not be spoken of kindly. There is no shame in admitting you have supported the worst president this country ever (or may ever) had. The truth will set you free; try it.
June 12th, 2008 at 12:53 pmroger_roger can't even remember his own name and still expects us to grant him credibility on anything else? I think we need to point out that which is obvious to us but not him. rogerX2, we regulars here at TP are not part of the 24-32%. Your poor logic and lack of reliable data will not persuade us.
June 12th, 2008 at 12:53 pmRoger,
And my point is does it really matter? 31%, 32%, 28%, they're all DISMAL and PATHETIC and most of all DESERVED.
Nice try though. No matter how many polls you throw out there to try and discredit the Harris poll, it doesn't change the fact that your beloved Fuhrer's name is in the toilet.
June 12th, 2008 at 12:56 pmFactors influencing Rice’s 39% positive ratings:
Resolute “stay the course”-type hairdo
June 12th, 2008 at 12:57 pm1)Great taste in shoes
2)Complete absence of any sexuality at all makes her non-threatening and sex scandal-free.
3)International relations no worse than when she started as Sec. State
4) Media’s informal ‘blackout’ on Rice’s activities and opinions have reduced her public lying by approx. 1,000%.
Rog. Are you really going to argue about a three point deviation in poll numbers when over two thirds of the country would be delighted to drag Chimpy out of the Oval Office and personally kick his tail straight to a federal courtroom?
You don't put a great deal of thought into picking your battles do you?
June 12th, 2008 at 12:57 pmNail, meet hammer.
June 12th, 2008 at 12:57 pmHere is what I think is the REAL message here: Right after 9/11, he was at over 90% but squandered his "Political Capital" like a drunken sailor at the Craps table.
That must give Roger2 a real thrill to know how far der Dubya has fallen in the past 6 years. Makes a Repug proud!
June 12th, 2008 at 1:01 pmOh gaud, Rogered up the arse is showing us that he thinks 32% is just great, what a moron...I guess he gets his lunch from garbage cans, there's a 32% chance of getting something to eat.
Got Vaseline?
June 12th, 2008 at 1:01 pmGotta wonder:
Does Roger S E stand for Roger, still Excreta?
June 12th, 2008 at 1:02 pmOf course America is upset with the Congress....there are still waaaaaay too many reich-wingers in the Congress.
June 12th, 2008 at 1:04 pmNice typing there Rogered up the arse, I guess you are 12 years old, right?
June 12th, 2008 at 1:05 pmroger-roger says: this would only mean something
So, the approval rating (whether 28% or 32%) has no meaning?
June 12th, 2008 at 1:10 pmBoy, I wish I could sign you up for the PLC Credit Card!
Just out of curiosity, why does R-2 contend that Harris is not "reliable" polling, aside from the fact they reported something that R-2 doesn't like?
Anyone?
Does R-2 realize that Rasmussen, while a respected polling organization, is well known to typically poll Republicans and Republican issues higher than other polling organizations?
June 12th, 2008 at 1:11 pmrogerse Says:
this would only mean something coming from the more reliable polling, which should’ve been quoted.tp just chery picked it.
Ok, fair enough. Rx2 go and provide us with the polling data that you feel best describes the country's mood towards Bush and company. If you don't like Harris, find one which you would be willing to defend. Post it and then let's talk about it.
June 12th, 2008 at 1:13 pmI just came across this Vonnegut quote. Damn I miss him, there will never be another Vonnegut book...or Hunter S. Thompson. Just when we need them most.
"Here’s what I think the truth is: We are all addicts of fossil fuels in a state of denial, about to face cold turkey. And like so many addicts about to face cold turkey, our leaders are now committing violent crimes to get what little is left of what we’re hooked on."
Cold Turkey
June 12th, 2008 at 1:13 pmReich-wingers hate reality. I still remember the hissy fit Drugbaugh had on air when herr dubyah first dropped into below 40%. He was outraged and claimed it couldn't be true. 1 1/2 years later and herr dubyah hasn't been above 33%.
June 12th, 2008 at 1:15 pmroger-roger, data denier
Otherwise known as R2D2
June 12th, 2008 at 1:17 pmAh! This is just too funny. Rog is arguing about "reliable polling" when every poll on the planet has his heroes firmly in the bottom third, at best, or quarter.
June 12th, 2008 at 1:17 pmYou first. Prove that Harris is an unreliable pollster.
June 12th, 2008 at 1:25 pm"Bush Rules! Bush Rules! Bush Rules! GOP Rocks!!!!!!"
June 12th, 2008 at 1:26 pm~roger_roger, June, 12, 1008
Oops
June 12th, 2008 at 1:28 pm~roger_roger, June, 12, 2008
Rx2, just bring us the polling data you want to defend. That is all you have to do. We have ours, and you disagree. Go find the number which you want to talk about.
We'll wait here. You know where to find us.
June 12th, 2008 at 1:28 pmrogerX2, you see to make your arguments "with thought proof" rather than data, so why can't we?
June 12th, 2008 at 1:28 pmDr. Hussein Matt Says:
Oops
~roger_roger, June, 12, 2008
Actually, I thought it was hilariously accurate at 1008.
June 12th, 2008 at 1:29 pmR2D2 says: but you admit you have no proof for your claim of rasmussen being unreliable
Of course, ralph the wonder llama made no such claim but truth never gets in the way of R2D2's arguing "with thought proof".
June 12th, 2008 at 1:32 pmUm, Roger? You're at the bottom of a very deeeeeeeeeeeep hole.
Toss us up the shovel, buddy, and we'll have you out of there in a few moments.
June 12th, 2008 at 1:33 pmYeah, the disaster team headed by the Best-Democracy-Money-Can-Buy-Booze'n'Coke-Junkie-Idiot, Dick "strap-on" Cheney, Black-Moor-Goldfish Cuntoleeza Rice, and their supporters Drug-Rush Limbaugh, Ann "Crank-Skank" Coulter. All of DC, the White House, the monuments, all double-coated with SHAME!
June 12th, 2008 at 1:35 pmSilly discussion. Bush and Cheney are pariahs. We could talk all day about just how bad they are regarded, but it doesn't matter. Bush will be off to Paraguay and Cheney will buy Wyoming. After those transactions have taken place, we will never hear from them again - except when the war crimes trials begin.
Rx2, you had numerous opportunities to show us the polling data you prefer. I just hear crickets....
June 12th, 2008 at 1:36 pmOK, it's time to leave R2D2 alone. I realized that it is highly probable that as a middle school student (has it been a whole year!), he brought home a test in which he got 32% correct and wanted his mommy to be proud of the fact that he improved from the 28% on the previous test.
June 12th, 2008 at 1:38 pmDontcha love a link to a rassmussen web site for a statement about how great and unbiased rassy is?
June 12th, 2008 at 1:39 pmPLC- agreed, I've tried to help him, lord knows have... but sometimes you have to let them flail about and work it out on their own...
June 12th, 2008 at 1:40 pm39% favorable for rice is pure bull for that lying, incompetent, skank - there's some giant passel of ignorant fools out there.
June 12th, 2008 at 1:42 pmrogerse Says:
all I meant was the other polls were more well known and respectable
June 12th, 2008 at 1:28 pm
But, your implication was that the Harris poll is somehow inaccurate and offer no reasons which stand up other than you don't like the numbers. And, the best numbers from your preferred polls still show that the American public is increasingly coming to the conclusion that what's being done ain't working.
Of course the really scary trend, to frightened trolls, is that the whole neocon movement is being rejected. And why not when they have failed so miserably? But, they'll always have the trolls who just can't, or won't, believe the evidence of their own senses.
June 12th, 2008 at 1:42 pmrat, I see your slow…see post #41.
R2D2, you have no capitalization on "rat" or "see". The word you want is "you're", a contraction of "you are". There should be a period after slow. I'm sorry, but this still is only a grade of 32%.
June 12th, 2008 at 1:43 pmrogerse Says:
StratRat Says:
rat, I see your slow…see post #41.
I am a charitable man; always have been. I am simply asking you to show us the 'particular' data which you want to use to defend the abysmal approval ratings for this president. The polling you refer to in 41 has several low ratings. I thought you had polling data which elevated the ratings for your imperial wizard, but it appears you are merely trying to make us beleieve that a 28% approval is somehow good for Bush.
I guess if your tool kit is empty, it is difficult to construct a meaningful arguement. Cheers to you.
June 12th, 2008 at 1:46 pmso roger_roger debate_dodger (and name changer),
So, the polls showing Bush's approval rating after 9/11 being nearly 90% was inaccurate?
What is wrong with you?
June 12th, 2008 at 1:50 pmand roger_roger name_changer,
Just so we're clear. I have no problem with you defending your hero.
I do, however, "fart in your general direction" with the idea that you feel he's a popular president by finding a poll with approvals of 32%.
Defend him all you want, it doesn't change the fact he's a failure. An unpopular failure. And will go down in history as
June 12th, 2008 at 1:54 pmWorst.
President.
Ever.
Here's the latest five polls from pollster.com
NBC/Wall Street Journal RV
6/6-9/08
Approve - 28
Disapprove - 66
Dunno - 6
Diff -38
CNN/Opinion Research
6/4-5/08
Approve - 32
Disapprove - 65
Whaa? 2
Diff -33
CBS
5/30 - 6/3/08
Approve - 25
Disapprove - 67
Huh ? 8
Diff -42
USA Today/Gallup
5/30 - 6/1/08
Approve - 28
Disapprove - 68
WMW? 4
Diff -40
Quinnipiac RV
5/8-12/08
Approve - 28
Disapprove - 67
ZZZZ - 5
Diff-39
So, the lowest DISAPPROVAL rate was what, roger suet ear?
June 12th, 2008 at 1:55 pmrogerse Says:
rat, I see your slow…see post #41.
June 12th, 2008 at 1:37 pm
See post #41? I think you should see every non-troll post, once you muster the courage to remove your blinders.
June 12th, 2008 at 1:57 pm.
And yet they are good enough to let stay in Office...
.
June 12th, 2008 at 1:59 pmAnd the polls above average out to :::
Approval 28.2%
June 12th, 2008 at 2:01 pmDisapproval 66.6% (NO SHIT!)
And in other news, 24% of people surveyed said that they enjoyed the taste of road kill skunk.
R2D2 argued that the skunk was worthy of a full 28% and the survey methods were flawed.
Let him have this one. There are probably 28%ers who won't admit that Bush is about as popular as a cockroach in your half empty cereal bowl.
June 12th, 2008 at 2:02 pmliberal traitor, how do you force her to rescue herself?
June 12th, 2008 at 2:07 pmMmmmmMMMmmm...I'm hungry! Someone pick me a chery!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!
(Pssst, Rogers, did anyone ever tell you that if you're unarmed, you probably shouldn't engage in a battle of wits...?)
June 12th, 2008 at 2:15 pmWe get it Rog. Different polls come up with different numbers. They probably use different weighting methods. I'll even bet they use different questions and ask different people.
However, none of the polls cited can be viewed as anything but condemnation for Buschco and the neocon movement. Each poll shows that the chances of neocons legally maintaining a significant presence in our government is very slim. And, I guess, that's why Rog doth protest to much.
He's just plain terrified about what kinda nuttiness them "libruls" will force down his throat. Probably make him marry a man, a Muslim, or a sick dog.
June 12th, 2008 at 2:15 pmSo there are minor differences among the major polls -- each having their own set of usually loyal voters.
Do you believe, rogerse, that the poll results not matching up to the decimal points validates your argument? The fact that the results of multiple polls are within close range of each other shows that this president -- and the GOP -- is in the deep.
What were the previous polling numbers for this president for USA Today/Gallup poll/NBC/Wall Street Journal/
June 12th, 2008 at 2:18 pmCNN/Opinion Research? Upon further research, you may or may not find that those are record lows for those companies' polls, respectively.
I'd like to point out that I have a comment "awaiting moderation" -- probably because it has so many links in it. Links to discussions and evidence of Rasmussen's rightward bias.
Also, just in case that post never makes it past whatever gatekeepers TP has assigned to sniffing it, R-2, I never said Rasmussen was "unreliable" -- that was your word for Harris, which you have refused to defend. I made quite clear that Rasmussen is a respected polling organization, albeit with a consistent conservative tilt.
And second, I never "admitted" that I had no proof of my claim. I simply requested that you prove yours first, since yours had been made first. This was something you declined to do.
June 12th, 2008 at 2:20 pmTypical of TP to stifle a thorough argument through flawed moderation.
Sorry, ralph. Indeed, I would like to see the links you have provided.
June 12th, 2008 at 2:25 pmMcWars Says:
Typical of TP to stifle a thorough argument through flawed moderation.
Sorry, ralph. Indeed, I would like to see the links you have provided.
And wankers like JinJin can continue to pollute us with its embedded spam crapola! What's the deal here, TP?
June 12th, 2008 at 2:31 pmCertainly, upside, you know the system is gamed when esteemed posters like ralph can't voice their full responses, therefore making trolls feel like winners (or quasi-losers).
June 12th, 2008 at 2:35 pmand “harriss” simple isn’t in the big leagues of news or polling..
Someone should clue him in to the fact that Harris is a conservative polling outfit...
Bush's numbers are probably even worse!
June 12th, 2008 at 2:37 pm**snort**
The trolls are twisting in the wind.
June 12th, 2008 at 2:48 pmcare to back up YOUR "baseless claim" --and “harriss” simple isn’t in the big leagues of news or polling
I mean, since you're all into "proof" and all... oh, that's right. You bailed on proving your "baseless claim".
Okay, I'll post my links one at a time and we'll see if that goes through.
June 12th, 2008 at 2:50 pmHere’s one from RealClearPolitics which demonstrates that Rasmussen in all three polls reported here polled Republicans above the other organizations and Democrats below.
June 12th, 2008 at 2:51 pmFrom Marc Armbinder’s discussion of Rasmussen at the Atlantic:
The problem with Rasmussen is that he is, as you mention, a conservative, and that this seems to affect his methodology. He consistently gets a right-ward bias in his numbers, compared to all the other pollsters.
June 12th, 2008 at 2:52 pmAnd just for kicks, you might enjoy perusing this comment board at the “fair and balanced” Pajamas media.
Nothing conclusive, except that the perception of Rasmussen’s conservative leaning is widely shared and varied. Enjoy.
Now, about that "proof" of Harris not being in the "big leagues" of polling?
June 12th, 2008 at 2:54 pmHmm... apparently it was a link to Mystery pollster that was the problem. That one is still awaiting moderation. Here's the quote:
Rasmussen from start 2005 has weighted to make Rep and Dem party ID equal at 37%. Yet his table of unweighted data since start 2004 shows that in every month, the Dem figure exceeded the Rep figure, often significantly. This weighting introduces a persistent bias which can be quantified if you know the cross-tab data.
June 12th, 2008 at 2:55 pmNow, R-2, when can we expect your "proof" that Harris isn't in the "big leagues"?
June 12th, 2008 at 2:56 pmHere are a few:
http://www.pollingreport.com/BushJob.htm
NBC/Wall Street Journal 28%
June 12th, 2008 at 3:00 pmCNN/Opinion Research 32%
CBS 25%
USA Today/Gallup 28%
Quinnipiac 28%
Oh SNAP! R2D2, you got served! Pwned!! LOL!!
(I thought if I wrote that in the 'parlance of our times' you might finally understand that this is over for you and your argument, Rogers. But that's the beauty of homeschooling... you can just move on to Mom's next assignment-Home Ec. Mmmm, cookies!)
June 12th, 2008 at 3:04 pmWhat the fukk is wrong with those 25%? There can't be that many inbred, home-schooled mongoloids in crawford, can there?
June 12th, 2008 at 3:18 pmSeriously, R-2? The links I provided were not enough to demonstrate that, as I said, Rasmussen is "well known to typically poll Republicans and Republican issues higher than other polling organizations"?
I offered you sample data (from RealClearPolitics). Small sample, sure. But it demonstrates my point. I'm confident a wider sample would confirm, since I have often compared similar poll results at the website you linked to earlier, pollingreport.com, and found that Rasmussen does indeed typically (not exclusively, but typically) poll higher for Bush, for example.
I offered you explanations of methodology. I even offered you opinion from a right-wing website.
All you asked for was proof of my statement. I think I've provided evidence that Rasmussen is "well known to typically poll Republicans and Republican issues higher than other polling organizations".
You, on the other hand, have repeated your assertion that Harris is somehow substandard, yet have offered not a shred of proof besides your whining.
June 12th, 2008 at 3:18 pmYeah, no sh!t, sherlock. He's about as righty-biased as they get in the blogosphere. I figured a) you would trust pajamasmedia more than The Atlantic or RealClearPolitics and b) it would demonstrate that it's not just the Left that has noticed a rightward tilt to Rasmussen's numbers.
But I guess those kinds of arguments are too subtle for you.
June 12th, 2008 at 3:21 pmErroll (Error) @ 35,
Could the reason be that impeachment must be initiated in the House of Representatives and not the Senate? Could the reason be that our next President is a Senator, not a member of the House? Could it be that you are unaware of these facts? Or could it be that you're just throwing talking points around to see what sticks?
June 12th, 2008 at 3:34 pmI know you're not too bright, R-2, so I'll type this slowly:
I made a claim in response to your claim.
My claim was that Rasmussen is well-known (i.e. widely shared opinion) to typically (i. e. often enough to be an established trend) poll Republicans higher than other polling organizations (fairly explanatory, no?)
To support that, I offered a sample of typical comparative polling data that showed the trend that i described. I offered a fairly authoritative opinion as to why this might be. And then, to help you get your mind around it, I offered a forum discussion from a right-wing site that described the same thing.
I'm not really interested in spending the time to synthesize dozens of comparative poll results across the last few years (although I'm confident I could) that demonstrate further this noticeable trend, because I'm also fairly certain that you would dismiss THAT evidence, too. Besides, you're really not worth the time.
But i would like to point out yet again, that while you have been whining about me proving my statement, and then whining about how unconvincing you find my evidence, the only "proof" that you have offered to buttress your original "baseless statement" is how many news agencies quot “hariss” polling, as opposed to zogby, rasmussen, or gallup polling?.thats my proof of its low-key nature.
I don't know, R-2, why don't you tell me how many?
If that is what you consider proof, then either you have to accept what I've offered as overwhelming proof, or you have to admit that you hold me to a higher standard than you hold yourself.
If the latter, then that's understandable, since you're so limited in your intellectual capacity. But still, it's not something i'd want to admit.
June 12th, 2008 at 3:44 pmVery few rep polticans even want to be seen with him.
June 12th, 2008 at 3:47 pmHe's destabzlized the entire world.
14 republican senators won't vote for him.
He comes across to 83% of the nation as being arrogant and unbalanced.
But our boy roger got a 300$ check, so he loves him.
I don't care if you use the Fred G. Sanford poll, he's still a loser (and maybe a big dummy.)
You did accomplish something, though, R-2, you successfully distracted me for a few moments from the abysmal across-the-board approval ratings of your president.
Not a problem, though, because the other posters kept things on track.
...And you're bragging about 32%. Hehehe.
June 12th, 2008 at 3:47 pmralph,
These idiots take pride in their low ratings, it makes them feel special and exclusive. They feel they are being persecuted and that makes them even more resolute.
And they are special, no doubt. Short bus special.
June 12th, 2008 at 4:34 pmThe sociopaths in charge could give two $hits about our opinions, thoughts, or anything else?
SO? Just give us ALL your money and STFU and go away.
The most disgusting pieces of human trash amongst us running the government. Amazing.
(On a side note: Are you a first class snarker? I am looking for YOU! You're gonna love this! Come join the fun and tell us why YOU are voting Republican.)
June 12th, 2008 at 4:41 pmThanks Ms Joanne. I can see that there are some valid reasons to vote Republican after all.
snark/snark/snark Damn snark button's stuck again. Sorry.
June 12th, 2008 at 5:05 pmThe rich thugs didn't think the public would notice that the Republican Party had become the Nazi Party.
They were wrong.
June 12th, 2008 at 5:21 pmSo, the USS Bush ratings sink like the Titanic.
Join for the USS Bush limbo:
June 12th, 2008 at 7:09 pmHow low can you go.
How low can you go.
How low can you go....
A person in office with a 24% approval is commander in chief of the most powerful military in the world AND has veto power over 538 Congresspersons? Does anyone see something out of kilter with this picture? Pres. Directive 51 gives this being the power to declare martial law and suspend elections.
June 12th, 2008 at 9:16 pmImpeachment had better be on the table.
dbadass Says:
How long till some freak shows up to make the lame “but what able Congressional approval ratings” argument?
Yeah, because it's important to only disclose the approval ratings for the side you support, anything else is lame.
June 13th, 2008 at 12:45 amGot any poll statistics on Pelosi? Reid? Conyers? I'll bet they are not "polling" all that well either....time to ask that question....
June 13th, 2008 at 1:34 pmIsn't it just possible that those who take comfort in the fact that congress is polling worse even than Bush-Cheney are barking up the wrong tree? Surely one can believe that much of the dissatisfaction with congress is their failure to perform their constitutional duty and impeach Bush-Cheney.
June 13th, 2008 at 10:10 pm