Comments on: Iraq Vet: McCain’s ‘Not The Only Person Who Suffered In War,’ ‘He Doesn’t Get A Free Pass’

By: SP Biloxi

SP Biloxi — Thu, 12 Jun 2008 22:17:56 +0000

The Kanye West infamous 7 words come to mind concerning Mr. Straight Jacket Talk Express:

John
McCain
doesn’t
care
about
the
troops!

Memo to Grampa:

1. You are not the only person on this earth who served in the military nor was injured while serving.

2. Iraq leaders don’t want the U.S. troops there anymore and they want the meddling in their country to stop.

3. The troops are human beings and not casualities nor a number!

Finally, the war in Iraq is not a war but an invasion on false pretenses!

By: TeleMan

TeleMan — Thu, 12 Jun 2008 19:29:12 +0000

Shayne Says:
Teleman, W is afraid to ride a horse, I’m pretty sure he hasn’t piloted anything since he went AWOL.

How about the time he was getting the photo op’ where he was running the big excavation equipment and about ran over the press?

He’s literally like a kid when they let him run the big gear for photo op’s.

By: Max-1

Max-1 — Thu, 12 Jun 2008 18:09:44 +0000

What Senator Johnny McTORTURE meant was:
“As long as we protect the troops from ‘death’ we can keep them in this clusterfu(k for life…”

By: Erroll

Erroll — Thu, 12 Jun 2008 18:03:36 +0000

I wrote a comment which was neither vile nor containing ad hominem attacks against anyone yet Think Progress has seen fit to “moderate” my comment. What exactly are they moderating? It seems that I may have been under the mistaken belief that liberal blogs have been great believers in tolerance and wishing to encourage critical thinking. Perhaps I may have been wrong in making that assumption.

By: Shayne

Shayne — Thu, 12 Jun 2008 17:47:52 +0000

Teleman, W is afraid to ride a horse, I’m pretty sure he hasn’t piloted anything since he went AWOL.

By: Shayne

Shayne — Thu, 12 Jun 2008 17:46:54 +0000

McCain isn’t a jerk because he was a POW or because he’s old. He’s that way in spite of his experience. He’s got the same personality disorder that W has as exhibited by his lack of empathy for his fellow man. He was a privileged brat flaunting his connections throughout his Naval Academy who didn’t have enough discipline to “act” like he gave a crap. He has exploited his POW status to stop all the negative facts about him from being discussed. We cannot elect a president because he dictates what is off topic in regards to his personal flaws.

By: TeleMan

TeleMan — Thu, 12 Jun 2008 17:38:15 +0000

McCain may have been a lousy pilot but looking at Bush, I just don’t see how that mush-for-brains was ever qualified to fly a Cessna much less a jet. Would you even get in a car with him?

By: upside99

upside99 — Thu, 12 Jun 2008 17:28:24 +0000

celtic cynic Says:
Since when is being a former lousy pilot qualification for commander in chief of the military?

Well, our current CiC, went to flight school, just couldn’t bother to show up for his monthly weekend training sessions in the ANGUS. And he finished about at the same levels as Johnny Boy in his legacy-purchased ed-U-kashon.

Some very similar traits between these two AssKlowns!

By: TeleMan

TeleMan — Thu, 12 Jun 2008 17:21:38 +0000

celtic cynic Says:
Since when is being a former lousy pilot qualification for commander in chief of the military?

Whaddya mean lousy? He’s an Ace! He took out 5 aircraft! (What? They were our planes?)

By: Castelcomerkid

Castelcomerkid — Thu, 12 Jun 2008 17:16:51 +0000

Many want to attribute the callowness of McShame to his age rather than to his basic intelligence. He didn’t get to be ranked 894/899 in his graduating class from Annapolis because he was the brightest bulb in the pack. His was a legacy enrollment. If his father was not an admiral and another relative also a line officer, it is really doubtful that he would have been accepted on his own merits.
A large number of those who served their country suffered as much or more than McShame did for their service, but have not tried to use that to advance their careers. I am tired of hearing about McShame the hero. His accomplishments since the service are less than remarkable. Given how he treated his first wife and his kids, he doesn’t qualify for hero status in my book. Nor is the homewrecker who is his current wife anything to write home about.

By: Freedom Rebel

Freedom Rebel — Thu, 12 Jun 2008 17:10:07 +0000

#15 JMOHR Says:

There is an attitude that develops. You have probably heard it as well: “Do not complain to me. I had it a lot worse than you did.”McCain comes from a privileged military family (father and grandfather 4 star admirals) with a guaranteed admission and passage through the academy. The time spent in captivity must have been especially tough on him. Unfortunately, he has developed an attitude that no one else (at least very, very few) ever went through what he had endured and have no right to complain about their treatment in the system or to expect special consideration for their service. To McCain, few could earn or deserve it.

That is an excellent point. He has developed a callous attitude towards other vets. McCain has shown that unsympathetic side over and over again in the way he votes against Veterans Issues. What angers me is his hyprocrisy of saying how much he supports them. May 26th 2008 McCain said ”
I take a back seat to no one in my affection, respect and devotion to veterans.” That anyone would believe this is just astounding. Because every politician practically has a better voting record for veterans than he does.

Great post as always-thank you :)

By: celtic cynic

celtic cynic — Thu, 12 Jun 2008 17:09:59 +0000

Since when is being a former prisoner of war qualification for president of the U.S.?
Since when is being a former lousy pilot qualification for commander in chief of the military?

By: RUCerious

RUCerious — Thu, 12 Jun 2008 17:05:43 +0000

Hey, moderator! It took three tries before I realized that I had to modify the word ana!ytical to get past moderation.
Is your software that stupid?

By: RUCerious

RUCerious — Thu, 12 Jun 2008 17:04:51 +0000

As a VietNam war vet, I don’t give McIIIrd an inch on his supposed CINC qualification assertion.
He’s never commanded anything more complex than a training unit.
He’s never demonstrated any ana!ytic behavior that would lend itself to the complex equation of talk versus fight that a POTUS needs.
Now, as a POUTER, he’s eminently qualified.

By: robbez_92107

robbez_92107 — Thu, 12 Jun 2008 16:56:50 +0000

TeleMan Says:

Make that 30,000 feet and 30,000 B.C.!

I thought it was the finishing fifth from the bottom in your academy class and being the son and grandson of Admirals that gave you the free pass…..

By: JMOHR

JMOHR — Thu, 12 Jun 2008 16:53:06 +0000

McCain went through a lot as a POW. Normally one would think that this would make the vet a lot more sensitive to the needs of other vets. I am not to sure that that is true. Why does hazing continue in many fraternities? Why do some bosses who were abused at the beginning of their career (think associates at a law firm) turn around and abuse those coming up behind them? Why do some commanders in the military continue similar traditions on the new soldiers behind them?

There is an attitude that develops. You have probably heard it as well: “Do not complain to me. I had it a lot worse than you did.”McCain comes from a privileged military family (father and grandfather 4 star admirals) with a guaranteed admission and passage through the academy. The time spent in captivity must have been especially tough on him. Unfortunately, he has developed an attitude that no one else (at least very, very few) ever went through what he had endured and have no right to complain about their treatment in the system or to expect special consideration for their service. To McCain, few could earn or deserve it.

By: TeleMan

TeleMan — Thu, 12 Jun 2008 16:48:17 +0000

McCain does not relate to the troops. With all due respect to him as a serviceman and a POW — he was only a Navy pilot! What does he know about our Army and Marines on the ground? He only sees the 30,000 foot view (both figuratively and literally).

By: Leftside Annie

Leftside Annie — Thu, 12 Jun 2008 16:47:43 +0000

McShame!

By: larkohio

larkohio — Thu, 12 Jun 2008 16:46:18 +0000

He is certainly not the only one that served. I do honor his service, and that of all our veterans.

That being said, he needs to understand that we, the American people, are tired of this endless war for a lie! We want our veteran’s supported by passing the GI bill. Supporting the troops means more than little yellow ribbon magnets.

Obama is right, McCain is not.

By: upside99

upside99 — Thu, 12 Jun 2008 16:42:15 +0000

Add:

….in their personal lives.