CNN’s Ware: Iraqis Reject Security Agreement Draft, May ‘Go It Alone’ And ‘Take Over This War’ From U.S.
CNN’s Ware: Iraqis Reject Security Agreement Draft, May ‘Go It Alone’ And ‘Take Over This War’ From U.S.
The Bush administration is currently trying to push Iraqis into accepting a indefinite long-term security agreement, with demands including nearly 60 permanent bases, immunity for foreign contractors, control over air space, and authorization for war with Iran.
But Iraqis are rejecting the administration’s stubborn attempts to control Iraq’s future. Today, Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki remarked, “The American version of the agreement infringes hugely on the sovereignty of Iraq and this is something that we cannot ever accept.”
Today, CNN’s Michael Ware said the U.S. presented a second draft of the agreement, but Iraqis rejected it because the draft is “the same as the first.” According to Ware, many Iraqis now want to “go it alone” and may even “take over this war”:
WARE: What we’re also hearing from the Iraqi government is they may go it alone, using a hangover snippet of law left over from the original American occupation authority of Paul Bremer.
They could create their own legislation in their own Congress or Parliament, and thereby dictate to America what U.S. troops can and cannot do in this country, where they can go, where they must stay, and how many you’re allowed to have. So you may see the Iraqis taking over this war, and you may see a lot of U.S. gains being drawn back.
Watch it:
Ware explained that in his conversations with U.S. officials, they have accepted that Iraq “going it alone, passing its own laws” is indeed a “legally viable option.”
The negotiations on the long-term agreement are going so poorly that today, a senior government official “expressed doubt an agreement could be reached before the U.S. presidential election in November,” according to the AP.
The administration and its allies are still in a state of denial, however. “We know the Iraqis want us there,” said White House Press Secretary Dana Perino this week. Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-CT) absurdly claimed the dissent in Iraq regarding the agreement is a “sign of our success.”
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Isn’t that cute … they think it’s still their country!
June 13th, 2008 at 7:43 pmThey think it’s still their oil!
OMG! I bet Darth and the rest of the NeoCons are having a total cranial implosion! This totally screws theirs plan for making Iraq the 51st state.
This won’t be good!
June 13th, 2008 at 7:45 pmThey stand up, we stand down.
How do you move the goal posts on that one?
June 13th, 2008 at 7:46 pmMichael Ware is the diamond in the goat’s a$$ that’s otherwise known as CNN…
June 13th, 2008 at 7:52 pmTrudy Rubin on tonite’s Newshour on PBS, said the US will most likely have to give up on IMMUNITY for Contractors.
That means Blackwater will be held accountable under Iraqi Law.
Iraqi Nationalism and Iran’s Influence are throwing a monkeywrench in Bush’s plans for Iraq.
June 13th, 2008 at 8:07 pmWare explained that in his conversations with U.S. officials, they have accepted that Iraq “going it alone, passing its own laws” is indeed a “legally viable option.”
Indeed a “legally, viable option. How dare they! Next thing they are going to do is present us with a bill for “illegally” invading and destroying a sovereign nation so we could steal their oil.
But Dana “brain-dead” Perino knows better than they do and just knows that they really do want us there. Holy crap…they just don’t have a clue.
June 13th, 2008 at 8:17 pmYeah, win those hearts and minds neo-cons.
June 13th, 2008 at 8:23 pmThey want to be self-determining… they want democratic rule. How DARE they?? Bush will never stand for it!
June 13th, 2008 at 8:36 pmWar? What war?
June 13th, 2008 at 8:36 pmYankee Go Home, we will sort out our differences and have no war.
Sincerely,
Iraq.
DAMN! How did they take our model of Democracy and out-democracy us?
BushCo, you tutored the student too well!
June 13th, 2008 at 8:37 pmrogerse Says:
That’s old news, and no longer valid:
But Iraqis are rejecting the administration’s stubborn attempts to control Iraq’s future. Today, Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki remarked, “The American version of the agreement infringes hugely on the sovereignty of Iraq and this is something that we cannot ever accept.”
Say hello to Saddam, when you see him in hell, al-Maliki.
June 13th, 2008 at 8:46 pmPrime Minister Nouri al-Maliki remarked, “The American version of the agreement infringes hugely on the sovereignty of Iraq and this is something that we cannot ever accept.”
If you haven’t noticed, Bush isn’t too big on respecting sovereignty, except his own.
June 13th, 2008 at 8:49 pmCheck out the sequence of events that led to this possibility… or impossibility. Not so fast…
Operation Iraq Takeover
June 13th, 2008 at 8:55 pmEven in the troll’s quoted article, there were signs that not everything was rosy between the Iraqi government and the Bush administration:
[Iraq’s Vice President Adil Abdul-Mahdi]said the government would announce within days a “declaration of intent” that would not involve military bases but would raise “issues on organising the presence of the multinational forces and ending their presence on Iraqi soil“
It was clear since November of last year that the military presence on Iraqi soil would be a very sticky point in the negotiations, since the Bush administration is hell-bent on a permanent occupation of Iraq.
Why the troll thought his article proves otherwise, I have no clue.
June 13th, 2008 at 8:58 pmGregor Samsa what ever gave you the impression that trolls know how to think?
June 13th, 2008 at 9:04 pmWe’ll haul ass out if the Iraqis say go.
Not under BushitCo.
But,
Under Obama.
June 13th, 2008 at 9:23 pmFor those few Iraqis who fit so nicely into the puppet outfits we gave you, watch your backs.
The strings might just get cut by your own people, and
Bye buh!
June 13th, 2008 at 9:24 pmIt was hilarious when Boy George was talking about the sovereign stuff we got here in the US.
Yeah Bush knows about that stuff. LOL
June 13th, 2008 at 9:41 pmBush is going to push harder, if history has taught us anything the US government does not take no for an answer. They don’t take a possible defeat, they kill more people.
I’m amazed that Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki is giving Bush his pink slip. I bet Bush and Cheney are frothing at the mouth over this indignity. I hope they stand their ground and don’t back down to Bush. That is the only way the Iraqi’s are ever going to have some form of peace.
June 13th, 2008 at 9:49 pmAttaboy!
June 13th, 2008 at 9:49 pmBush is stupid. Period. He doesn’t know what to think, ’cause he knows not how to think.
June 13th, 2008 at 9:52 pm#22 Nevar Says:
Bush is stupid. Period. He doesn’t know what to think, ’cause he knows not how to think.
True. But he wants his launching point for Iran and he is not taking his eye off that goal.
June 13th, 2008 at 9:55 pmSen. Joe Lieberman (I-CT) absurdly claimed the dissent in Iraq regarding the agreement is a “sign of our success.”
I’m sick and tired of Joe being Bush’s cheerleader. He needs to cut the Independent crap out and just admit he is a diehard Republican. He has no redeeming quality left.
June 13th, 2008 at 10:00 pmIraqis Reject Security Agreement Draft, May ‘Go It Alone’ And ‘Take Over This War’ From U.S.»
It would be an insult to the intelligence of the Iraqi people to think otherwise…. that THEY would settle for Bush’s theft deal.
Of Course THEY want US out. There are no words that can erase our actions to the Iraqi people and I fear we may be getting what is due.
June 13th, 2008 at 10:09 pmThe conservative war hawks in the Bush administration are trying to blackmail the Iraqi government (by threatening billions in Iraqi assets in the U.S.) to try to force them into ceding over their nation’s sovereignty permanently…just like the Bush administration sought to blackmail Louisiana Governor Kathleen Blanco into ceding control over her state’s national guard units in the critical and deadly days following Hurricane Katrina’s landfall and the flooding of New Orleans by withholding desperately-needed DHS/FEMA emergency disaster relief assets from saving lives and mitigating suffering in New Orleans and at the Superdome.
During this same time, the Bush administration (with Karl Rove running things), as they sought to blackmail Gov. Blanco into doing their bidding, these same Republicans blocked attempts by anyone trying to get into New Orleans to help, and anyone that did try to help was punished for daring to interfere with this blackmail scheme against Gov. Blanco.
U.S.A.F. helicopter pilots out of Pensacola Florida were reprimanded for rescuing New Orleans’ citizens off rooftops. A U.S. Navy hospital ship anchored off Louisiana’s coast after the hurricane hit flew some helicopter rescue mission, but then were ordered to stop. Hundreds of Louisiana citizens with boats rushed to New Orleans to help pluck people off rooftops, but were turned away, ordered to keep out. Trucks carrying ice to New Orleans were rerouted away from New Orleans instead. And, of course, we all know how the Bush administration turned down over $100 million in hurricane-related foreign aid, even going so far as to deny landing rights to a German cargo plane loaded with disaster relief supplies, forcing it to turn around and return to Germany.
And where was the Red Cross during the first week following Hurricane Katrina hitting? The conservative-controlled Red Cross, and all its workers, were ordered to stay out of New Orleans, to not attempt any rescue efforts nor provide assistance to the thousands of people huddled at the Superdome.
Well, at least the crooked and dangerous Republicans in the Bush administration are consistent…whether in trying to blackmail the Iraqi government or in what they did to Louisiana and New Orleans as they sought to blackmail Gov. Blanco into submission.
Oh, and about a year later, Republicans in Congress added a provision to a bill giving George W. Bush, in case of a state of emergency declared and defined by him, the “right” to seize control over any state’s national guard units. All fifty governors, Republicans and Democrats, protested, but to no avail. Mission Accomplished. Usurption of state’s rights complete. All governor’s neutered.
June 13th, 2008 at 10:10 pmWe’ll stand down when they stand up. We should have given them six months from the getgo and left.
June 13th, 2008 at 10:33 pmThis is fantastic. We should declare victory and get the phuck out.
June 13th, 2008 at 10:34 pmWhat we’re also hearing from the Iraqi government is they may go it alone…
So…most Americans don’t want us there and the Iraqis don’t want us there…why are we still there?
The reason of course, is that the neocons, oil companies and the war profiteers want us there. Could it be any more obvious that neither our national security nor their “freedom” ever had anything to do with invading Iraq?
http://progressiveworldreview.com
June 13th, 2008 at 10:38 pmSimply put we have
1. Shocked and Awed the Iraqi people with 4000 bombs in a 48 hour period on Baghdad a population half under the age of 16… and we watched this on TV for entertainment.
2. We kept the chaos going, not allowing the Iraqi people rebuild their own country AS THEY REQUESTED and through this confusion corporations were able to profit while the Iraqi people became increasingly displaced. 2 million Iraqi people left Iraq?
3. Through our ‘”rebuilding”‘ of Iraq we kept the living conditions unfit and extremely unsanitary causing more chaos, death and disease in Iraq.
3. now we want an outrageous oil agreements, 50+ military bases and God knows what else.
Someone please tell me WHY Iraq would want US there.
June 13th, 2008 at 10:45 pmSo. I’m guessing that Georgie’s new motto is:
“When the Iraqis stand up? We’ll knock ‘em down. Otherwise they’ll make me put my toy soldiers away before I’m ready for bed.”
June 13th, 2008 at 11:04 pmThey haven’t wanted us since day one. We weren’t going to stay any more than needed. It’s been proven that our presence causes more turmoil than our absence would. So why are we still there? Bush, Inc. is making money!
June 13th, 2008 at 11:40 pmNeocon Criminal Runaway Gravy Train this is where you STOP!
June 14th, 2008 at 12:11 amLet’s see… KBR can and does charge $99 per load of laundry they wash for the troops. That’s each load, per person! Halliburton male employees can have all the deviant, perverted, brutal sex they want with the Halliburton female employees they want with impunity. Blackwater can run amok and murder at will with all their death toys, again, with impunity and be rewarded with new contracts. The most blatant abuse is that we’re told that over $23 billion is missing and unaccounted for. Hahahahahaha! Are you kidding me?! That money was counted and divided up and sent to the Caymans long ago. Our country has been reduced to those that have the power to take the money win and those that don’t lose.
June 14th, 2008 at 12:29 amNow, for my mean rant. I wish nothing but the absolute worst for George Bush and everyone on down from him. They are amoral, sociopathological people that have no idea or desire of how to be human. They are sick, demented and delusional. Some how, some way they must be held accountable for the atrocities they’ve perpetrated. If not then this country is lost.
“Absurdly” indeed! Amazing! lieberman is just a lying court jester.
chimpy shocked and awed the shit out of Iraq. Bremer dismantled the country’s protective force. looting was ok’d by rummy. they hunted down and killed the Iraqi head of state along with other friends and family members. chimpy stole billions of dollars from US taxpayers.
chimpy and his blackwater force uses Iranians as target practice. chimpy ok’d torture, habeas corpus is out the window. he has sanctioned killing and maiming our finest and doing more damage on the other side. unaccountability is the norm, and on and on.
all for chimpy greed and lies. now chimpy wants to take over their country and he has the nerve to put in his demands the right to invade Iran. WTF?? For What??
finally chimpy is in his full immaturity mode and plays a sick game by sending the demands back without a single compromise. Sick ahole.
Get the fuk out of Iran chimpy. The Iranians told you this several months ago. And get out of US too.
June 14th, 2008 at 1:21 amI want the IDIOT chopped! And his criminal devil worshipping family NUKED!
June 14th, 2008 at 1:23 amDon’t you guys get it? This IS the exit strategy for Iraq for the Bush administration. The Republicans know that they can’t squeeze much more juice out of this fruit, so they’re forcing the issue. If they remain, then they become the idiots who left a mess for the Democrats to fix. If they voluntarily leave, then they look like wimps to their own party. If they get Iraq to demand we leave, they get to look like the good guys to their party for WANTING to stay, they get to say “We’re done, so anything bad that happens now is the Dems fault” AND when Iraq falls on their face, they can say “See!! We said it was a bad idea to leave,” and even better, if they get the Whitehouse back in four years and Iraq is still in a civil war, they can offer to come back in and “fix” things.
It also frees up a bunch of soldiers if they still have plans to go after Iran before their time is up.
Hell! This is a win-win-win for BushCo.
And about Blackwater being held accountable…. out of sight, out of mind. We’ll just take out ball and go home. In the unlikely event that it does go to trial, whether we are in Iraq or not won’t matter at all.
June 14th, 2008 at 2:18 amWare says this:
I thought we weren’t making gains in Iraq?
Ware says that the U.S. officials admit that it’s an option for Iraqis to make their own law. That is their choice.
If they want us to leave, and the democratically elected leaders of Iraqi decide they don’t want us for security, we should leave.
June 14th, 2008 at 4:12 amAny chance we could negotiate a quick exit by next weekend in exchange to agree to run the Green Zone as a amusement park and house the George W.Bush International Peace Center and Lieberry?
June 14th, 2008 at 4:58 am>rogerse Says:
crow about it after it actually happens, mental midget.
arent you tired of being dead wrong about so many things? WMD? greeted with flowers? insurgency in its “final throes”. conflict only lasting 6 months at most?, iraqi oil money paying for its reconstruction? do you ever get tired of supporting people who have been so amazingly, incredibly wrong?
June 14th, 2008 at 6:06 amGee, most of the American people and the current government in Iraq are in agreement, its their country get the hell out of there Now! Of course, Bush,Lieberman and the other ne0-cons have NOT gotten that message.
June 14th, 2008 at 6:44 am#34 Mr. Evil Says:
Let’s see… KBR can and does charge $99 per load of laundry they wash for the troops. That’s each load, per person! Halliburton male employees can have all the deviant, perverted, brutal sex they want with the Halliburton female employees they want with impunity. Blackwater can run amok and murder at will with all their death toys, again, with impunity and be rewarded with new contracts. The most blatant abuse is that we’re told that over $23 billion is missing and unaccounted for.
What is worse than the US losing money is the fact that Bush & Cheney have systematically annihilated 4% to 5% of the Iraqi population. That doesn’t include the one million that have been displaced since March 2003. All of this death and destruction is a replay of Vietnam. Now they are responsible for many still born babies and deformities from the use of Chemical Weapons, when Bush ordered the destruction of Fallujah in late 2004.
Then we have Vice President Dick Cheney once again stating that the only way out in Iraq is “total victory”. “Total Victory” in Cheney’s mind, means that the Bush Administration has never been interested in democracy for Iraq or the Middle East. What matters is control over crude oil (over 300 billion barrels), a cluster of 60 military bases, the largest Embassy in the world, and the perfect strategic position in the Middle East.
June 14th, 2008 at 6:54 amAmerica is arrogant, imperialistic, and dangerous
June 14th, 2008 at 7:07 amLieberman and McCain may be proof that stupidity is contagious
June 14th, 2008 at 7:38 am“… many Iraqis now want to “go it alone” and may even “take over this war …” “
Go for it. The U.S. should never have been there in the first place.
June 14th, 2008 at 8:49 ambackup Says:
Ware says that the U.S. officials admit that it’s an option for Iraqis to make their own law. That is their choice.
June 14th, 2008 at 4:12 am
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And this right here is the problem. Our officials “admit that it’s an option” for the government Iraq to actually control the country.
That shouldn’t be “an option,” that should be “reality.”
June 14th, 2008 at 9:55 amDoes this mean democracy is actually working in Iraq??
June 14th, 2008 at 11:14 amWare sums up nicely what I have been reading in bits and pieces from other sources. Ware did not comment on the latest development regarding al-Sadr’s announced reorganization of forces loyal to him. He will basically be splitting his Mahdi Army into units roughly resembling police and military units. The military units (outlaws according to Bush) will be limited to targeting the occupiers. The police units will be focused on local security and subject to his cease-fire order.
This could mean lower civilian violence and an increase in attacks on American forces.
June 14th, 2008 at 11:31 ambackup Says:
If they want us to leave, and the democratically elected leaders of Iraqi decide they don’t want us for security, we should leave.
Why do you persist in this self-delusion?
You may think your opinions have some relevance to the issue, but after four thousand dead soldiers, tens of thousands of physically and mentally maimed, hundreds of killed and crippled Iraqis, no WMD, trillions of dollars in current and future war costs, a devastated international reputation (and credibility), destruction and theft of many of mankind’s greatest archeological treasures, failure to bring the masterminds of 9/11 (which was the badly-crafted excuse for invading in the first place)to justice, outing a covert CIA officer to discredit her husband (and blowing the cover of an active CIA front, in the bargain), and not uttering a peep about any of it as it was going on — except to now offer a laughably-insincere posthumous regret, earns you nothing but the scorn of all true Americans who learned long ago to distrust authority, because they were, and are, capable of such acts.
So, offer your sentiments of concern and regret to the nearest fencepost, because you’ve squandered the right to offer your opinions, and to be taken seriously.
June 14th, 2008 at 11:56 ambackup,
In the true spirit of progressivism , I’ll offer you a deal (let’s call it the barfly compromise): if you (or any other conservative/republican) wants to offer serious comment on any issue that Bush and the republicans in power have demonstrably bungled,unchallenged, you first must preface your opening comment with “as a conservative (/republican), I know that in the past, my judgement has been terribly wrong, on this and many other issues, and that I have no right to speak on this topic, because of that past bad judgement, but still…”
If you will do that, whenever you offer your first post of the thread, I’ll cut you some slack.
It’s the virtual dead-chicken that you must wear, to attone for your past anti-American, pro-party synchophancy.
June 14th, 2008 at 12:26 pmBarfly says:
It’s the virtual dead-chicken that you must wear, to atone for your past anti-American, pro-party synchophancy.
How long can these 23%ers continue to prop up this sorry-ass excuse of a regime?
It reminds me more and more of Germany during the 30’s and early 40’s as the people stood around while Hitler and his Nazi thugs almost destroyed their country and the rest of the world.
Now if only Dubya had a bunker and a conscience to do the right thing, things might improve.
June 14th, 2008 at 12:33 pmIf they don’t accept our terms we should INVADE Iraq!
…oh wait!
June 14th, 2008 at 12:48 pmDOH!
:-o
Sounds like it’s time for American Troops to finally stand down coz it looks like The Iraqis are finally wanting to stand up.
June 14th, 2008 at 1:30 pmWare is wrong. The Iraqi ‘government’ doesn’t want the U.S. to leave Iraq. Members of Iraq’s ‘parliament’ are each paid $120,000 from the American taxpayer, so they will NEVER demand that U.S. troops leave.
June 14th, 2008 at 5:28 pmThe idiot is such a failure to such an extent it is starting to worry the global elite. The elite could very easily remove idiot Bush “surgically” from the picture. In fact the best case exit scenario for Bush right now is martyrdom. In this case an idiot who chooses death for his belief in Satan!
June 15th, 2008 at 12:26 am