ABC reports:
Sen. John McCain on Friday abruptly cancelled a Monday fundraiser that had been scheduled at the home of a Texas oilman, after ABC News contacted the campaign inquiring about a verbal blunder the Texan made during an unsuccessful 1990 campaign for governor.
Clayton Williams stirred controversy during his 1990 campaign for governor of Texas with a botched attempt at humor in which he compared rape to weather. Within earshot of a reporter, Williams said: “As long as it’s inevitable, you might as well lie back and enjoy it.”
McCain’s campaign spokesman said he wasn’t sure what the senator would be doing with the more than $300,000 brought into the campaign by Williams. (HT: The Back Forty)
Repugnican crass and vulgar comments certainly belie the ‘family values” and “christian” morality they boast.
June 14th, 2008 at 12:49 pmSweet Jebus, I remember that idiotic comment when he said it. No surprise he’s a McCain supporter.
As for the $300,000, what $300,000 says the McCain campaign
June 14th, 2008 at 12:49 pmTypical. Knuckle-scraping baboon!
June 14th, 2008 at 12:52 pm“McCain’s campaign spokesman said he wasn’t sure what the senator would be doing with the more than $300,000 brought into the campaign by Williams.”
wtf?
June 14th, 2008 at 1:06 pmI think we all know what will happen to that money. Duck Michelle, incoming!
June 14th, 2008 at 1:10 pm$300,000? Why that is about the weekly income for the K Street Lobbyist/whores on the McCain Straight-talk Express train (to oblivion in November.)
June 14th, 2008 at 1:13 pmThey are going to keep the 300 grrr and they know it. McCain doesn’t care about women other than Cindy and his family. He is just like Bush and every other republican in history. They care about when only to get votes and then they dump them like a bad habit. Only stupid women vote for republicans anyway.
June 14th, 2008 at 1:16 pmRoger squared learned how to operate the copy and paste function. Isn’t that special.
June 14th, 2008 at 1:17 pmShadow,
I wonder if Johnny Boy’s ex will be endorsing him for Prez? She sure has the inside track on his loyalty issues!
June 14th, 2008 at 1:19 pmI, oh-so-remember this comment because I lived in Texas at the time — it virtually put Anne Richards in the Governor’s mansion.
But I’m not sure why McCain is choosing to distance himself from Clayton, anyone who would call his wife a trollop and a C* word can’t be too far from agreeing with Clayton and thinking that rape is OK.
June 14th, 2008 at 1:20 pm“Lay back and enjoy it?” Isn’t that what the corporate media and many Republicans are saying about the rapidly climbing gasoline prices? Now every American driver is being assaulted every time we buy gasoline. The Royal Corporate Chronicle newspaper finally decided to give a bit of coverage to the growing electronic oil futures trading scandal today in a page 3 article entitled, “Bill would limit trading in energy markets.” Even corporate Feinstein and corporate Liberman want to crack down (a little).
To help get you up to speed on this amazing electronic ripoff, here are my repeated words:
We’re being ENRONed again: this time by oil futures contracts speculators who are unnecessarily and very profitably driving up the price of crude oil and hence retail gasoline prices. Curious as to why you are suddenly paying over four dollars a gallon for gasoline? No, it’s not due to “supply-and-demand,” no, it’s not due to “OPEC,” nor is it due to “peak oil.” It’s due to totally unregulated electronic oil futures trading in world markets. Check out the very lucid article that explains the unseen financial machinations in oil futures markets written by F. W. Engdahl on May 2, 2008, entitled, “Perhaps 60% of Today’s Oil Price is Pure Speculation.” It may be viewed at .
http://www.financialsense.com/ editorials/ engdahl/ 2008/ 0502.html
In a nutshell, he suggests that the Bush Administration dropped the ball in January 2006, when they allowed totally unregulated electronic trading of oil futures contracts in New York. Previously these electronic trades had been made at the London Intercontinental Exchange (ICE) Futures Market. With that decision by the Bush Administration, all of the world’s oil prices were then opened to upward pressure from speculative futures contracts. In essence, oil futures contracts made by speculators, banks, hedge funds and pension funds all competed with real demand on the spot markets and had the effect of driving up both wholesale oil prices and retail gasoline prices. Speculators have made billions of dollars on their trading of oil futures contracts. All of their profits come right out of our pockets.
Even with a stable oil supply, there is a slow worldwide increase in demand for oil, which creates a long-term upward pressure on oil prices. However, with the relentless saber-rattling and war-mongering by Bush and Cheney in the last several years, and the more recent war talks by McCain and the Israelis, the oil futures markets are rife with speculation and paranoia. This war talk keeps ratcheting up the prices on the oil futures contracts and hence the wholesale spot market prices. It is an endless spiral of greed and paranoia.
As long as there is no tough and effective oversight of the electronic oil futures markets by the Bush Administration, the oil prices will climb endlessly. These oil prices will be quickly followed by hikes in the retail gasoline prices at the pump. The 60% speculation share of the $4.25/gallon gasoline price, is about $2.55/gallon, which is what we consumers are paying to these oil speculators as a “service fee.” Not a bad “fee,” since the speculators produce no usable goods or services…Just a few large greedy oil futures traders helping themselves to your gas money.
Without this added-on oil futures “service fee,” you would be paying about $1.75/gallon for gasoline. Write, call or smoke-signal your Representatives and Senators today and suggest that they read the June 2006 report by The U. S. Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations entitled, “The Role of Market Speculation in Rising Oil and Gas Prices.” Then demand that they investigate and then force the Bush Administration to firmly regulate the computerized oil futures contracts trading in New York, London and Dubai.
This electronic oil price futures scandal is costing US drivers about $969,000,000.00 per day! That number is based on 60% speculation fee of a gasoline price of $4.25/gallon and on US 2004 consumption of 380,000,000 gallons/day. Tell you Senators and Congresspersons to simply shut down this unregulated electronic oil futures contract trading market. Then the price of gasoline will slowly drop to about $1.75/gallon…The only way that oil price futures contracts make money is if the price of oil goes up in the future, say, 30, 60 or 90 days later. This futures market serves no social need. It is just for corporate greed. The corporate speculators are probably also gaming/ENRONing the wheat and corn futures markets the same way.
June 14th, 2008 at 1:25 pmWhat to do with the 300 large?
Perhaps a cash enema would help.
June 14th, 2008 at 1:29 pmGood afternoon rogerse. Nice day here. Hope the same is true for you. Anyway might you be willing to explain how your post relates to the topic?
June 14th, 2008 at 1:31 pmFlagged for being way off topic.
June 14th, 2008 at 1:33 pmSo, R-2, nothing to say about the McCain supporter who thinks women should just “lie back and enjoy” rape?
June 14th, 2008 at 1:35 pmre 14:
It doesn’t. rogerX2 is one of those trolls mcbush hired to post on liberal websites and disrupt the conversations.
June 14th, 2008 at 1:37 pm*Flagged* off-topic
June 14th, 2008 at 1:37 pmRalph the wonder Llama, r-2 is a republican, that’s what they call “consummating the marriage”
June 14th, 2008 at 1:39 pmLibertylover,
Also remember when KKKarl was running Dubya’s campaign to be Gov, they smeared Ann with innuendos about her sexual orientation.
And Williams was a big contributor to that campaign as well as to Pappy Bush, as they are butt-buddies from WAY back in the “awl bidness”.
June 14th, 2008 at 1:43 pmrogerse Says:
June 14th, 2008 at 1:52 pm
*Flagged* inflammatory, flame baiting, and off-topic
June 14th, 2008 at 1:55 pmSo, R-2, still nothing to say about the McCain supporter who thinks women should just “lie back and enjoy” rape?
June 14th, 2008 at 1:58 pmralph the wonder llama Says:
So, R-2, still nothing to say about the McCain supporter who thinks women should just “lie back and enjoy” rape?
Maybe he/she agrees with the comment.
June 14th, 2008 at 1:59 pmAfter all, we all have been raped by BushCo for the past 7 1/2 years.
June 14th, 2008 at 2:00 pmrogerse Says:
ralph the wonder llama Says:
are you saying its wrong for candidate supporters to express such strong views?.
well, yes, when that supporter spouts sexist remarks and condones an illegal act.
Again, do you agree with Williams’ comment or not?
June 14th, 2008 at 2:04 pm>candidate supporters to express such strong
“strong”? how about “crazy”? if one of the female members of your family was being raped would you recommend they relax and enjoy it rodgerdraftdodger?
June 14th, 2008 at 2:05 pmVote foe Johnny Mcflipflopper and we wiil keep on being raped and pillaged by the Reich……
June 14th, 2008 at 2:06 pmAre you saying it’s RIGHT for candidate supporters to express such “strong views”?
June 14th, 2008 at 2:08 pmrodgerdraftdodger before you answer my hypothetical question, let me add one thing to the hypothetical…this time, it isnt YOU doing the raping…
June 14th, 2008 at 2:09 pmR2D2 has already admitted that it’s ok to call a woman a “B***h” and now she claims that it’s ok to rape women. In other words, r2d2 is a typical reich-winger.
June 14th, 2008 at 2:10 pmrogerse, when you rape a woman do you call her a “B***h” as well?
June 14th, 2008 at 2:15 pmPukes also enjoy raping the earth.
June 14th, 2008 at 2:16 pmrogerse, obviously you don`t see the connection between the old man and Williams and his remark,but if the shoe was on the other foot, let`s say Obama`s you would be all over it, wouldn`t you?
June 14th, 2008 at 2:17 pmSo, Roger, you agree with Williams?
And, yes, it does reflect on Johnny Boy, hence the decision to distance himself from him, at least publicly. But he will still take his money.
And what was your thoughts on the Republican News Network and their use of “Obama’s Babt Mama”?
June 14th, 2008 at 2:18 pmrogerse,
June 14th, 2008 at 2:19 pmmaybe I missed it. Did you already explain how your post relates to the topic? Thanks
“Babt” s/b “Baby” in #37.
June 14th, 2008 at 2:19 pmroger2 “…are you saying its wrong for candidate supporters to express such strong views?.”
What strong view?
June 14th, 2008 at 2:21 pmThe comment in question is anything but a strong view. It is a weak, demeaning and sick attempt at humor.
It’s not a statement by any stretch of the imagination.
Is this not exactly what a serial rapist would say?
A strong view would be what Rev Wright has said when he speaks to the inate racism that exists in republican white America, but that will not be allowed because obviously the white racists are in power.
June 14th, 2008 at 2:22 pmMe thinks the troll went trolling elsewhere…..
June 14th, 2008 at 2:23 pmWilliams said that he needed to help McCain raise money to stop an Obama campaign that would enact “socialist” policies if elected to office.
“Much of the media, particularly the TV media, are to the left,” Williams told the newspaper. “To combat that we must have money to put our case to the people. We are way behind on [fundraising]. If Obama wins, it could move our country to the left, from which we will not recover.”
Williams needs a reality check, I think the Texas sun has completely fried this man’s brain. And there are actually Republicans on the ABC website posting comments to this original article that aren’t taking issue with what he has said about rape. Oh NO, they are bashing Obama about Rev. Wright, like there is anything to compare. In the same breath calling Obama a social elitist, those people are nuts. Not one of them expressed any outrage whatsoever.
On another note, don’t any of his many campaign workers do a background check or research on a person wanting to host a fundraiser? I think it’s time he found some new help, the lobbyists he hired don’t seem to know how to use Goggle.
June 14th, 2008 at 2:25 pmJust imagine the fake outrage from Faux if Obama was closely tied to a fund raiser that said “Rape is like the weather, if it’s inevitable relax and enjoy it.”
June 14th, 2008 at 2:26 pmchristopher wiwi Says:
June 14th, 2008 at 2:27 pmMe thinks the troll went trolling elsewhere…..Either he is downloading the latest talking points or his mom called him up from the basement for lunch.
Flag the bonehead troll.
June 14th, 2008 at 2:28 pmWilliams said: “As long as it’s inevitable, you might as well lie back and enjoy it.”
Like the collapse of the Republican party.
http://progressiveworldreview.com
June 14th, 2008 at 2:42 pmrogerse Says:
Dr. Hussein Matt Says:
hey jerk, its not off-topic as much as it is a similiar situation..
off topic.
again.
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June 14th, 2008 at 2:52 pm*flagged* off-topic
June 14th, 2008 at 2:52 pmpmavrk Says:
Good for McCain, he did the right thing.
“McCain’s campaign spokesman said he wasn’t sure what the senator would be doing with the more than $300,000 brought into the campaign by Williams. (HT: The Back Forty)”
keeping the money is the “right thing”?
pmavrk proving once again that conservatives lack a firm moral base.
:)
June 14th, 2008 at 2:55 pm>The messiah with funny ears Obama appears to have some >skeletons in his closet too.
wow, never heard THOSE allegations before, ya babyf#cker.
when is the next Ayres fundraiser for Obama?
thats funny you freak out about someone being a slumlord..these days “slumlord” is a pretty apt description
for most people running the republican party.
you think workers who want fair treatement in places like the Cayman islands get alot of symptathy from your repubelican heroes..oh..that would make them “slavelords” not “slumlords”..sorry!
ever heard of the “keating five”? how do you feel about McStain being admonished by a senate panel about it? partisan hackery, right?
June 14th, 2008 at 3:01 pm>pmavrk Says:
oh yes, a real “maverick” here.. someone who thinks that someone whose had 50 pages worth of medical problems PER DAY for the last 8 years should be president!
June 14th, 2008 at 3:04 pmMcGrampa hangs out with people who support rape. But, McGrampa gets a free pass because reich-wingers are misogynists.
June 14th, 2008 at 3:06 pm> So your savior Obama has a firm moral base
> when he hangs out with terrorists and slum lords?
You mean scumbags like THIS?
http://www.nsm88nj.com/images/saddam_rumsfeld.jpg
It amazes me that people like you can claim indignity about things like hanging out with scumbags and keep a straight face
June 14th, 2008 at 3:07 pmAt this rate by November we will have trolls who are too dumb to even to remember to breathe.
June 14th, 2008 at 3:17 pmpmaverick,
WTF does Ted Kennedy have to do with Obama and Johnny Boy. Oh, maybe about as much as all the Repug congressmen attached to Jack Abramoff’s financial teat. Or maybe Mark Foley or Larry Craig or Jeff Gannon.
This won’t even be a fair fight, Heh Heh.
June 14th, 2008 at 3:20 pmAccording to ‘Rogerese’s Thesaurus’:
Rape: Coerced sexual activity, invariably violent.
Synonyms:
1)Favorable mortgage
2)Political nepotism
Example: “A Central Park jogger who was found bruised and bloody and currently lies in a coma was determined to have recieved favorable mortgage terms furing the attack, according to doctors. Police suspect an agressive mortgage broker with political ties and are canvassing the public for information.”
As to McCain’s reaction, all he has to decide is whter the money os worthy more than the ‘guilt by association’ charge.
300K is a lot to turn down even for a front runner. Clinton returned far less than that in similar circumstances and Bush if I remember rightly donated a couple of grand to charity but kept 80% of a donation from a dubious source when it was publicized.
300K though is a lot of money from a single source, and a hell of a lot given McCain’s finances. I’ll bet the McCain campaign will rely in the MSM to completely ignore this “gotcha”, do nothing for a week and it will all be over. He’ll keep the money.
Personally I don’t care about the money, and the guilt by association game is easily played but rarely of any real use–politicians have to lie down with dogs to gwt elected–it’s whether they get up with fleas that matters and McCain has plenty of fleas already so one more isn’t a big deal to me in this circumstance. There are bigger issues to challenge McCain on–huge ones in fact.
June 14th, 2008 at 3:21 pmpmavrk Says:
June 14th, 2008 at 3:15 pm
Chappaquiddick? Whitewater?
You’re shooting blanks, pardner.
June 14th, 2008 at 3:22 pm“Ted Kennedy in Chappaquiddick: The dead womans name was Mary Jo Kopechne. http://www.ytedk.com/”
Do you want me to list the 4,100 Americans who have died in your hero Bush’s illegal war? You really are a knuckle dragging cretin, aren’t you? You just regurgitate tired, pathetic, unimaginitate crap. Do you like being a fascist stormtrooper whore (but not serve in the miilitary because you are a coward) for a party that hates America? I guess you already answered that….
June 14th, 2008 at 3:23 pmpmavrk = larry sinclair* = clayton williams = jack abramoff = larry craig, et al.
the beat goes on.
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June 14th, 2008 at 3:25 pmpmavrk Says:
upside99 Says: —
If you read my posts and the responses, you would see that I was simply exposing the democrats are equally guilty of immoral behavior.
Step back and take a deep breath upside. It makes reading much easier.
step back and check your grammar.
eh?
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June 14th, 2008 at 3:27 pmpmavrk Says:
upside99 Says: —
If you read my posts and the responses, you would see that I was simply exposing the democrats are equally guilty of immoral behavior.
Step back and take a deep breath upside. It makes reading much easier.
I actually breathe quite well and sleep well at night, too.
As I have said before, your accusing all the “big government spending” on Bush is ludicrous. It took all your “Conservative congressmen” in the republic party to vote all that pork and all that war debt into being. They have followed his arse down the road like the tail behind a circus elephant.
and I wonder why all the special elections have been won by Democrats, even in heavily repub districts? November is going to have your party feeling like a rented mule.
June 14th, 2008 at 3:28 pmpmavrk Says:
You could blue state bob —
And I could proceed to name off the democrats that started the KKK. The fact that Martin Luther King was a Republican. The fact that it took a Republican to free the slaves dispite opposition from the democrats in the south. His name was Abraham Lincoln, bob.
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step back and spell check.
eh?
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June 14th, 2008 at 3:30 pmpmavrk Says:
Ooooooo Joe caught a type-o. Congratulations, do you want an award now?
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step back and go to your quiet place.
eh?
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June 14th, 2008 at 3:31 pmSo you are going back to a man who died 143 years ago to find a good republican. Whatever makes you able to sleep at night supporting an administration that HATES this country.
June 14th, 2008 at 3:33 pmpmavrk Says:
The fact that it took a Republican to free the slaves dispite opposition from the democrats in the south. His name was Abraham Lincoln, bob.
How’s that
June 14th, 2008 at 3:39 pm“malice toward none” working for you, Mr. P?
pmavrk Says:
you’re getting hysterical. try not to hurt yourself or anyone else.
ok?
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June 14th, 2008 at 3:42 pmA “man” who supports a dictatotship and the destruction of the Constitution because he is too scared of the big bad terrorists, who exactly is a pussy?
BTW, where do you live? I live in Manhattan and work in the financial district a few blocks from the WTC…..you??
June 14th, 2008 at 3:43 pmpmavrk,
Dude, you need to chill!
Talking to the leaders of other countries isn’t appeasement. If it is, then Dubya is doing that as we speak on his farewell personal space invading dog and pony show.
And which terrorists are being appeased? Maybe OBL, but that is because Dubya “Doesn’t care where he is and doesn’t think much abiout him anymore”. Maybe because of the Bush Crime Family ties to his family?
And social programs like retaining Social Security, a national health care plan like almost every other industrialized nation has or maybe a decent GI Bill for us returning combat veterans to use? Guess those aren’t as important as funding an illegal invasion, a bridge to nowhere, no-bid contracts to Halliburton and Blackwater.
And if you are so worried about your own safety, it is probably because if someone does shoot you or rape your family, it will be with a gun they bought from a gun show fanatic because they could.
As I say, this is too easy.
June 14th, 2008 at 3:44 pm“agents of freedom“?
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June 14th, 2008 at 3:47 pmJohn McCain would need the Verdun Memorial to hold his skeletons.
June 14th, 2008 at 3:47 pmpmavrk.
try to find a better way than this.
June 14th, 2008 at 3:49 pm>Are you afraid that the government hand outs will get cut >further if McCain gets is Choco?
Bwhwahahahahah. Your think corporate welfare for big oil and no-bid contracts to contractors with past history of fraud arent government handouts? You think giving multimillion dollar “aid packages” to sunni chieftans who were taking pot shots at our soldiers and working with al-queda mere months ago arent “handouts”? You’re ok with all this stuff,right?
Sorry, but your new talking point “all politicians are the same, so no reason to bother picking one over the other” isnt sticking pal. for every “skeleton” in Obamas closet, MCCain has 100. If you go back you can find mccain contradicting himself in video over and over again.. taxes, privatizing social security, habeas corpus, etc. one thing i can say, at least the man can go a week without sticking his foot in his mouth..
June 14th, 2008 at 3:49 pmpmavrk Says:
Let me ask you this, WHAT THE HECK HAS OBAMA DONE? Obama gives a real good speach, but the guy has done absolutely nothing notable.
For the record:
http://www.dailykos.com/ storyonly/ 2008/ 6/ 10/ 10532/ 8283/ 610/ 533309
The Lugar-Obama Cooperative Threat Reduction.
Introduced by Sen. Barack Obama, Sen. Dick Lugar and Sen. Tom Coburn. First introduced in November 2005 and enacted in 2007, this bill expanded upon the successful Nunn-Lugar threat reduction, which helped secure weapons of mass destruction and related infrastructure in former Soviet Union states.
Lugar-Obama expanded this nonproliferation program to conventional weapons — including shoulder-fired rockets and land mines.
Federal Funding Accountability and Transparency Act of 2006
This act of Congress, introduced by Senators Obama and Coburn, required the full disclosure of all entities or organizations receiving federal funds in FY2007.
Democratic Republic of the Congo Relief, Security, and Democracy Promotion Act.
This law helped specify US policy toward the Congo, and states that the US should work with other donor nations to increase international contributions to the African nation.
Honest Leadership and Open Government Act
In the first month of the 110th Congress, Obama worked with Sen. Russ Feingold to pass this law, which amends and strengthens the Lobbying Disclosure Act of 1995.
Specificially, the changes made by Obama and Feingold requires public disclosure of lobbying activity and funding, places more restrictions on gifts for members of Congress and their staff, and provides for mandatory disclosure of earmarks in expenditure bills.
The Obama-McCain Climate Change Reduction Bill
The Obama-McCain bill, which is co-sponsored by Sen. Joe Lieberman, I-Conn., would cut emissions by two-thirds by 2050.
The Comprehensive Nuclear Threat Reduction provision.
Working with Sen. Hagel and Rep. Adam Schiff, Obama authored this provision, which would require the president to develop a comprehensive plan for ensuring that all nuclear weapons and weapons-usable material at vulnerable sites around the world are secure by 2012 from the threats that terrorists have shown they can pose.
That’s a partial list. See the link if you are really interested ( which I doubt)
June 14th, 2008 at 3:49 pm“As long as it’s inevitable, you might as well lie back and enjoy it.”
Pure unadulterated RePugniScum foreplay. Every RePugniScum wife hears this from their useless limp noodle husbands every birthday.
And the hatered for women in that quote is exponentially stupid!!
June 14th, 2008 at 3:50 pm> republicans have been agents of freedom
bwhahahahahah.
http://www.nsm88nj.com/images/saddam_rumsfeld.jpg
why do republicans love to shake hands with terrorists?
June 14th, 2008 at 3:51 pmChocolate Jesus Says:
>pmavrk Says:
oh yes, a real “maverick” here..
more like a pee-mark…
should probably step around it…
June 14th, 2008 at 3:57 pmClayton Williams in His Own Words
June 14th, 2008 at 4:00 pmpmavrk?
pmavrk…?
June 14th, 2008 at 4:01 pmNoone has been able to connect MLK, Jr. with any single political party, but I doubt that it had anything to do with Republicans as he is quoted as saying:
June 14th, 2008 at 4:03 pm“There must be a better distribution of wealth, and maybe America must move toward a democratic socialism.”
ref:Franklin, Robert Michael (1990). Liberating Visions: Human Fulfillment and Social Justice in African-American Thought. Fortress Press, 125. ISBN 0800623924
Guess ‘p’maverick has gone to the school library for some more research on American political history.
June 14th, 2008 at 4:05 pmrepublicans have been agents of freedom
bwhahahahahah.
I heard benidict arnold was a republican
June 14th, 2008 at 4:06 pmprn etc: Democrats as well as Reblicans have skeletons in the closet.
Indeed they do, and progressives complain about them ad-nauseum, all the damn time; “simeless democrats” is a common refrain, “Clinton = Bush” is another common charge.
The things that separate McCain from Osama are very clear. McCain was a war hero who spend time as a POW.
‘Cute’ transposition of ‘Osama’ for Obama, moron.
Obama was 16 when the Vietnam war ENDED, you dumb f–k! And like you and a hundred million other Americans he never joined the military–so not a lot of opportunity to become a war hero, was there?
McCain’s 6 years as a POW doesn’t qualify him for anything other than sympathy and admiration at his endurance. Anything he’s done since for the common good has been negsted five-fold by every self-serving utterence and action over his entire political career and most expecially since 2004.
June 14th, 2008 at 4:10 pm‘Noone’ s/b ‘No one’, I hate it when I screw up like that!
June 14th, 2008 at 4:10 pmMcGrampa is NOT A WAR HERO. Fact. Destroying 5 military aircraft and getting shoot down because you are incompetent is not heroic.
June 14th, 2008 at 4:13 pm5th Estate,
Looks like p couldn’t stand the heat. Seems to be a common theme around here; a troll makes an asinine post and then digs the latrine deeper as the responses pile up.
Gotta suck to be a Repug in a Dem world!
June 14th, 2008 at 4:15 pmsame story, via C&L… The Back Forty:
[…]
He should donate every single dirty dollar that this man has raised for him - all $300,000 - to an organization working to combat rape in our society - like RAINN or RVA.
And he should apologize immediately and completely to his female supporters for daring to entertain the thought of keeping company with this despicable, disgusting individual.
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June 14th, 2008 at 4:19 pmupside99 Says:
Guess ‘p’maverick has gone to the school library for some more
research on American political history.
Must be the same bizarro library roger2 gets his info from, upside. So far, just on this thread, our troll friends have shared with us the following:
Saying that rape victims should “lie back and enjoy it” is merely a “strong view.”
John McCain taking money from a person with such a “strong view” is doing “the right thing.”
MLK Jr. was a Republican.
June 14th, 2008 at 4:21 pmupside99,
June 14th, 2008 at 4:23 pmNo, some of his offensive comments were erased. TP is in control of the situation, nice!
LFG and Walt,
I can’t tell if some of their comments are just meant to inflame or they actually believe some of the crap they say. Either way, it is kinda creepy.
June 14th, 2008 at 4:28 pmupside99,
June 14th, 2008 at 4:37 pmThey missed #46. Look fast, it alludes to that sock puppet in a sense.
#95 Little Freep Goofballs Says:
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MLK Jr. was a Republican.
Uhhh?
How? Since he was fighting for the right to vote? Please inform me how a black man can be a useless RePugniScum without the right to register and vote!!!!
June 14th, 2008 at 4:45 pmI see pee-mavrk was assigned the midday Saturday shift this week.
They must have sprung it on him at the last minute. Looks like he didn’t have much time to prepare material.
June 14th, 2008 at 4:45 pmWalt,
The “messiah w/ the funny ears” comment?
I guess we all will have to have thick skin tp get past November.
When they got nothin’ to use, they use nothin’ but racist and swiftboating tactics. The sign of a scared and defeated party.
Their paranoiac FUD factor is alive and well, unfortunately.
June 14th, 2008 at 4:46 pmupside 99…
Yeah, these trolls usually show and then blow. I don;t go on LGF or FreeRupblic and needle them, but those of that ilk love to come here. ( I used to be an “original” AAR Franken blog member and boy did we have some dogfights then!)
June 14th, 2008 at 4:50 pmHowever it is important keeping the comments open. It is important to hear the ‘Right’s’ arguments–sometimes they can catch one off-guard, (though I’ve invariably I;ve found a claim about which I was completely ignorant I’ve found through research to be easily debunked).
dixie blood Says:
#95 Little Freep Goofballs Says:
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MLK Jr. was a Republican.
Uhhh?
Hey, don’t blame me! Check post #73.
June 14th, 2008 at 4:51 pmdixie blood Says:
#95 Little Freep Goofballs Says:
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MLK Jr. was a Republican.
Uhhh?
How? Since he was fighting for the right to vote? Please inform me how a black man can be a useless RePugniScum without the right to register and vote!!!!
June 14th, 2008 at 4:45 pm
DB,
June 14th, 2008 at 4:58 pmI think that LFG is in support of the premise that MLK, Jr. was most likely not a Republican. In his time, neither was he a Democrat. His primary goal was equality for everyone in every sense.
I retract that last comment, LFG is an anarchist.
June 14th, 2008 at 5:01 pmClayton and all repugs are idiots.
Why does he lie back and enjoy the tornado ball snip?
June 14th, 2008 at 5:06 pmI just find it odd that the Reichwing is sticking with the “guilt by association” angle. Granted, Obama doesn’t seem to have many legit weaknesses, but, when one compares McCain’s associates with Obama’s? Well, we can start with the Keating 5 and move on from there.
June 14th, 2008 at 5:07 pmI know where rog is going…he aint too swift.
What Rev. Wright and the Priest has said didn’t break any laws rog. Is that so hard to understand?
June 14th, 2008 at 5:19 pmLGF,
#73 is most likely from a known RePugniScum troll. Is this your source?
June 14th, 2008 at 5:25 pm#46 pm
This is funny! you want me to believe someone bombed the pentagon and got away with it?
I think Sen. Obama was 2 at the time.
June 14th, 2008 at 5:26 pmpm you are off topic once again.
Why does the truth hurt you so much?
It’s about your third term mcchimpy and his present relationship with more goons. Face it, mchimpy loves the company.
I know it’s hard for trolls to focus but you are ridiculous.
June 14th, 2008 at 5:40 pmpmavrk Says:
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upside99 Says: —
If you read my posts and the responses, you would see that I was simply exposing the democrats are equally guilty of immoral behavior.
Step back and take a deep breath upside. It makes reading much easier.
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It may help reading, but evidently it has an adverse effect on spelling and basic reasoning.
Still obsessed with Obama’s ears, huh? You should probably bet help for that fetish.
June 14th, 2008 at 5:58 pmpmavrk Says:
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And you guys will vote your messiah of change into the highest office.
YOU BETTER MAKE SURE THAT IS THE CHANGE THAT YOU DESIRE FOLKS?
Higher taxes?
Socialist Programs that promote dependence on government?
Appeasement of dictators and terrorists?
Disregard for the second amendment and each individuals right to arm and protect themselves?
He will basically turn us into a pussy nation.
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Higher taxes? On Paris Hilton and Cindy McShrub-you bet!
Socialist programs? Universal healthcare-you bet!
Disregard for the Second Amendment?- You’re living proof that not everyone should be allowed to own a gun.
He will basically turn us into a pussy nation.-Most normal people don’t live in constant fear like you do.
You’re a joke.
Socialist programs? Universal health care-you bet!
June 14th, 2008 at 6:08 pmpprvrt,
Do some reading, if you’re capable, and weep for your treasonous candidate:
http://www.vvof.org/mccain_hides.htm
June 14th, 2008 at 6:19 pmGoogle on “McCain USS Forrestal fire” to see how our “hero” fared in that incident. Besides five(or six) planes, he took out one aircraft carrier.
June 14th, 2008 at 6:32 pmWaltTheMan Says:
Google on “McCain USS Forrestal fire” to see how our “hero” fared in that incident. Besides five(or six) planes, he took out one aircraft carrier.
I guess graduating 5th from the bottom of your class might foretell your aviation skills.
Maybe we ought to be thankful that Dubya went AWOL from the ANGUS. With his limited intelligence and total lack of common sense, who knows how much damage he would have inflicted on our troops and weaponry.
Ohhhhh, wait …… He has done all that damage, just 35 years later.
June 14th, 2008 at 6:46 pmAh yes. The fear of “change” that drives the conservative.
First, just to get it out of the way, the biggest “change” offered by Obama is a return of accountability to the Executive Branch. We the People need to take care of weeding the Legislative Branch.
The Judicial Branch is where the real battles will be fought and Obama’s, hypothetical, first hundred days will largely depend on how swiftly and ruthlessly he purges appointed Bushbots. If there’s a single Liberty U grad left after, say, 6 months? He’ll be in serious trouble.
Second, the “change” offered by Obama is an honest assessment of remedies to existing problems. And, unless he takes on greater dictatorial powers than Bush himself, he will still need Congress to draft the legislation. The Reichwing hysteria that seems to include fears that, with a pass of his pen, Obama will force wholesome youth to marry animals of the same sex and he’ll take away our cars and boats; are ridiculous.
Third: The next President is going to have to devote his entire term to fixing emergencies inherited from Bush including what could well be a full-blown depression and two occupations of hostile lands. Where the Hell would they find the time to promote: atheism, immorality, communism, Islam, black racism, white racism, radical black Christianity, abortion, gay marriage, polygamy, bestiality, pedophilia, misogyny, miscegenation, kiddie-porn, socialism, globalization and foreign languages?
Speaking only for myself. I am thrilled at the opportunity to vote for someone who might take risks to fix things that are effed up. And I’ll tolerate beginners mistakes. But there’s no way in Hell I could conservatively support letting things ride and hoping the law of averages will eventually help. Four more years of neocon control could well destroy what good is left in the grand American experiment. I am not willing to risk that.
June 14th, 2008 at 7:17 pmOk, so I know this sounds corny but-
Tracy Russo, you go girl!
Senator McCain should publicly reject and denounce this man.
He should donate every single dirty dollar that this man has raised for him - all $300,000 - to an organization working to combat rape in our society - like RAINN or RVA.
And he should apologize immediately and completely to his female supporters for daring to entertain the thought of keeping company with this despicable, disgusting individual.
Rape isn’t something that’s funny, it’s tragic. It’s a blight on all of society. Women should be able to trust Senator McCain to recognize that, and to do the right thing.
June 14th, 2008 at 7:24 pmpm
OOOOh it will be so peaceful to have a pussy nation.
It’s sure better than being dic by you repug types.
Whats so wrong with fixing our infrastructure? What’s wrong with helping our people become better? What’s wrong with spending the money on the people who pay taxes? Your type would rather spend it on illegal occupation of what ever land you want, death and the chimpy administration and his cronies especially their legal fund. (Give a buck for your monkeyman)
Yep your type will be in the way, step aside you come with zero reliability, zero honesty and definitely without clear thought. you also come without the necessary cognitive skills needed to post on a Bingo forum, let alone this forum.
June 14th, 2008 at 7:28 pmGod forbid Clayton Williams get caught with any illegalities. He may end up in prison sharing a cell with a hefty, sexually curious individual who just may end up telling him the same thing!
June 14th, 2008 at 7:56 pmP-maverick: “Guys like me will band together if/when this country gets invaded. Consequently, it will be guys like me that risk our lives to protect idiots like you.”
LOL
June 14th, 2008 at 9:16 pmYeah, you guys will bond alright, until the beer runs out and then you’ll be at each others throats.
Where are you going to hide out when the sh!t hits, huh?
Which one of your wives or mothers will put up with a half dozen juvenile delinquents in the basement fighting over whether to watch Nascar or Survivor reruns?
LOL
pmavrk,
No I do not understand.
June 14th, 2008 at 9:22 pmAt this point, the only way we’re going to dig this country out of the deep sh*t Drunky McStagger has put us in the past eight years is to raise taxes. It’s inevitable. Forever? No, but definitely inevitable.
June 14th, 2008 at 9:27 pmppvrt,
Everything in your diatribe above is wrong, including your statement that I used italics in my post. You can’t even get that right, can you? Keep using your bold type. It fits your personality to a T. In that regard, if your mom ever sends you to Europe and you find that the people can’t understand what you’re saying, TALK REALLY LOUD AND THEY’LL BE SURE TO UNDERSTAND YOU.
June 14th, 2008 at 9:28 pmpmavrk Says:
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Game of Life Says:
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pm
OOOOh it will be so peaceful to have a pussy nation.
Uhh, do you really believe that our enemies will discontinue their attacks on us of Obama is president? Remember, the terrorists plotted the 911 attack when Clinton was in the oval office getting his balls washed by an intern.
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Guess we won’t have to worry about that happening to you. Heh.
June 14th, 2008 at 9:30 pm“Ha, sorry Nevar, I gave up drinking a long time ago.”
That explains a lot, thanks.
June 14th, 2008 at 9:36 pmWas it about the same time Dubya quit drinking?
“Heck, now that I think about it, it was the same time I left the democratic party.”
That was your graduation party. You only left because you were the only one there.
June 14th, 2008 at 9:38 pmI don’t understand why the trolls have little things left other than to get into stereotypes.
Oh yeah, I do understand now, lack of depth.
June 14th, 2008 at 9:39 pmpmavrk Says:
Same old tired lies about progressive themes. Why don’t you start worrying about the future of your party….it seems to have crashed and burned. Probably won’t be hearing much more of your commie manifesto drivel for a long time now since you and your mentality have finally driven the right wing back into the shadows where they belong.
bye bye
http://news.yahoo.com/ s/ ap/ 20080614/ ap_on_el_ho/ gop_woes
June 14th, 2008 at 9:39 pm“You know, those corporations that employ individuals like you and me who constantly innovate and produce to enhance our lives.”
You and drock23 can band together in your basement when the US gets invaded and constantly inebriate and use enhancement products.
June 14th, 2008 at 9:42 pmpmavrk Says:
Heck, I could go on.
I could meet more guys in the airport men’s room toilet stall
btw pmarrk could you give these guys a little $$$?
please.
:)
June 14th, 2008 at 9:53 pmFred Says: “bye bye”
Here’s a classic example, Fred…
http://kob.com/ article/ stories/ S477533.shtml?cat=500
This is the race for Oily Pete Domenici’s Senate seat.
(Chortles of glee)
June 14th, 2008 at 9:59 pmNevar Says:
Fred Says: “bye bye”
Here’s a classic example, Fred…
http://kob.com/ article/ stories/ S477533.shtml?cat=500
This is the race for Oily Pete Domenici’s Senate seat.
(Chortles of glee)
(double for me!)
pmavrk , your thoughts?
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June 14th, 2008 at 10:02 pmNevar,
yep, last squeals of a dying breed of fools. Soon to resume their place as the anchor, a minority opposition party steadily keeping our country from moving forward.
republicans, Wonder how they explain the losses in the 2006 election?….
June 14th, 2008 at 10:05 pm7 years of showing us what you guys are all about has really been bad for your image. You can only hide the truth for so long, even if you own the media.
drock…….bla bla bs,,,bla bla
mcain great war hero….bla obama commie…bla bla bs
June 14th, 2008 at 10:20 pmmore koolaid drock?
June 14th, 2008 at 10:22 pmthis one goes out to pmavrk.
snap.
:)
June 14th, 2008 at 10:28 pmAre you guys congenitally damaged or do you huff paint?
The whole effing planet, including approx 70% of American voters, realize we need to pay for Bush’s mad adventures. Most of the rest of the world wants the blood of the guilty flowing around their wrists and ankles and you are worried about being able to tell your ill gotten children “America, Fu(k Yeah”! “I spend what I want, where I want”.
Grow up. Bush wrote checks that need cashing. If you really think that nothing needs fast, drastic, fixing? Vote your conscience and shut up. Most of us are of the opinion that we need to change things to survive.
June 14th, 2008 at 10:29 pmDrock23: “…I just think for myself and not from the CNN, ABC, NBC and George Soros websites.”
Did you build your own little newsroom out of cardboard boxes and some old track lighting?
“I just think for myself….”
That is glaringly apparent.
June 14th, 2008 at 10:35 pmLOL
Yeah, its kind of amusing to see them think we care what they think.
Funnier yet is that they spring the same old tired cliche’s just like they think we have never heard them before….
Addendum……never any facts to back up their accusations or assertions…..
June 14th, 2008 at 10:40 pmHa, pmavrk. I see you are holding down the fort against these brainwashed liberals once again. Thought that I would not see you again after you beat down the liberals on that discussion board about Michael Savage slamming on Ted Kennedy’s politics.
Good to see that you are back in action and strong as ever.
Here is my take on these wack jobs…
Blue State Bob on #62,
Don’t forget about the 58000 Americans that died when the democrat Lyndon B. Johnson sent them to Vietnam. pmavrk is not such a knucklehead when you compare the 4100 military deaths under Bush to the 58000 caused by your democratic president.
Chocolate Jesus on #50,
Better do some research to find out who the real racists have been in American history. I get the feeling that your ancestors were on the wrong end of some very bad acts by the racist democrats, who incidently started the KKK. I also get the feeling that your liberal friends on this board and in the media have failed to tell you the truth.
Woodguy on #113,
You are a socialist of the worst order. Did you grow up in the former USSR? You are surly not an American. I pray that our nation will not fall for the idiocracy that you believe in.
Nevar,
I sense that you are a sleeper cell. Just a feeling that I get.
Enjoy!
June 14th, 2008 at 10:42 pmNevar,
I sense that you are a sleeper cell. Just a feeling that I get.
Yawwwnnnn.
June 14th, 2008 at 10:43 pmdrock23… Tim 43….
Do they give you guys the numeral suffix to tell you apart?
June 14th, 2008 at 10:46 pmor is it your respective IQ’s?
June 14th, 2008 at 10:46 pmWell tim that was just drivel.
June 14th, 2008 at 10:53 pmI see Troll Central sent in some back-up since pee mavrk was gettin’ its ass kicked so bad.
Unfortunately, their bench doesn’t look too deep.
These guys DO know their tired middle-school cliches, though.
June 14th, 2008 at 10:58 pmFirst, as has been pointed out, the bill is coming due and no matter who becomes predident, they will raise taxes. Who gets elected will just decide who will bear the brunt of the taxation……simple if you think about it and oh so obvious.
Oh and those government programs that you hate….like the FDA and FEMA. Those were valuable programs that did essential tasks for Americans. Under the republicans they have been defunded and rendered utterly useless just so they can be called a failure and abolished…….sorry I want them back and you guys are going to help pay for them…..wait and see.
Care to explain why we are in the economic crisis today? Please this should be good……lets’ see…..hmm…yep Clinton did it….no no, it was the democratic congress that took over in 06, yeah, that’s the ticket….it’s their fault.
Dream on losers.
June 14th, 2008 at 11:01 pmThey’re really lame, ralph, I’m nodding off here in my cell….
June 14th, 2008 at 11:03 pmObviously, Troll Central is trying to save money on paper and no longer printing up their talking points. That leaves pee mavrk to try to transcribe names from the morning briefing.
How else to explain his consistent misspellings of the names of tangential (at best) figures that they’re desperately using to try to smear Obama?
I mean, it would be hard to make their tactics look more pathetic, but pee mavrk has managed it.
June 14th, 2008 at 11:04 pmMan, you’re not kidding, Nevar. This is like the Washington Generals of trolldom, these clowns.
June 14th, 2008 at 11:06 pmI like the funny little numerals after their names.
June 14th, 2008 at 11:11 pmSerial numbers I guess.
Not even serial numbers, Nevar. I think the numbers are a scorecard of how many blogs they’ve been banned by. Or chicks that told them to get lost. I’m not sure the troll brain can tell the difference.
Either way, when a person takes a number, instead of a name, it indicates an ant-like hive mentality. A communist drone of the first order. And our trolls don’t even realize they sacrifice the best part of their humanity in order to conform. The world would be richer without them.
That being said, it is an interesting topic. Like microbiology without the need to squint through a microscope. Germs that shout at the walls are an easy study.
June 14th, 2008 at 11:26 pmI can beat that pmavrk. I disowned the neocons when they invaded THE WRONG EFFING COUNTRY!
I will gladly pay any price to right that wrong. How about you?
June 14th, 2008 at 11:29 pmpmavrk,
June 14th, 2008 at 11:32 pmYou need to reevaluate some of your criteria.
WaltTheMan Says:
pmavrk,
You need to reevaluate some of your criteria.
June 14th, 2008 at 11:32 pm
No, Walt. Our pet troll needs to grow up and realize that it’s going to take sacrifice to pay for his hero’s folly.
June 14th, 2008 at 11:35 pmTo be fair, pete, for these guys, that’s not much of a sacrifice.
June 14th, 2008 at 11:40 pmAw crap. The GD cat jumped on the keyboard. To continue…
All these Reichwing nut jobs need a lesson in responsibility, accountability and honor. Not to mention critical thinking and objective ana!yis. If they chose to believe the crap their masters feed them? There’s not a lot we can do. But, the truth of the matter is, Bushco has ravaged the wealth of the future and the trolls will hurt just as much, if not more, than anyone when the bills come due. The only conclusion a rational person can make is that they plan to die before the collection agency starts calling. I guess it just sucks to be their kids.
June 14th, 2008 at 11:44 pmdrock23 Says:
you guys have any argument or just dub comments towards pmavrk
June 14th, 2008 at 11:43 pm
Do you wish to discuss the issue of the scumbags McPander Bear has pandered to or, whine about your infantile fears that a Dem President is the Antichrist?
June 14th, 2008 at 11:47 pmAren’t their misconceptions amusing?
This troll, for instance, doesnt realize that liberal government isn’t expected to solve ALL problems, but the conservative government isn
t expected to solbe ANY. In fact, its track record is that of creating many more.
It also doesn’t realize that, based on results, government has a negative effect on the economy primarily when REPUBLICANS are in control.
Yet it thinks that, because Republicans are incompetent at governing, this means that government can’t work. Silly troll. Perhaps it ought to adopt more evidence-based practices. But then that would make it a liberal…
June 14th, 2008 at 11:48 pmWalt. Do you have any idea what he’s complaining about?
June 14th, 2008 at 11:58 pmYou make many inaccurate presumptions pmavrk. I’m an old school conservative who voted against JFK. Today? I’m a one issue “liberal” who wants our government to be accountable to the people who employ them. And I God damn well guarantee that I’m more conservative than any Bushbot neocon.
They are reckless radicals who have defied the will of the People. And they have made us pariahs on the world stage. And I will gladly pay for any half-baked social program to begin atonement for the idiotic crimes committed in our name.
June 15th, 2008 at 12:08 ampete, it’s kind of funny the trolls keep trying to tag you as a “big government lib”.
Just goes to show they don’t pay attention to their surroundings.
Of course, their support of the “Borrow and Spend” big-government Bush administration is adequate proof of that.
June 15th, 2008 at 12:14 amPerhaps I wasn’t clear? Bush invaded an innocent nation in MY name! That is unforgivable. Period. End of story. No negotiation.
Then there’s the whole issue of defying the subpoenas of our duly elected legislators. Every little nuance of our democracy makes oversight explicit. Bushco has defied oversight. So? They have to go. They are criminals by definition.
June 15th, 2008 at 12:15 amralph, it’s the whole, “with me or against me” mindset. They can’t conceive the idea that the good ol’ U.S.A, God and Jesus could be wrong. Then there’s faulty education, bad parenting, and a juvenile avoidance of responsibility.
June 15th, 2008 at 12:19 amShow me where it says in the Bill of Rights, Constitution or Declaration of Independence where we are supposed to be a welfare state and give free handouts to those of us that do not work?
Could you show me where in the Constitution does it say to give free HANDOUTS to corporations that don’t need them and ship jobs overseas?
June 15th, 2008 at 12:27 amand if the government ever came for you drock23 or after your records, the ACLU would be the first to defend you. You may think it sucks, but it defends people like Rush Limbaugh who bash it all the time…
June 15th, 2008 at 12:29 ampmavrk your führer speaks:
Bush also delivered “a major policy address during his final presidential trip to Europe not in Britain, but France - which he called America’s ‘first friend,’” the Guardian notes.
suck. on. that.
June 15th, 2008 at 12:33 amI can’t speak for liberals. I haven’t met one since the late 70’s. But…
I don’t believe in God or Jesus, so, I can’t very well hate them. And, I love the U.S.A. very much. Your inability to reconcile those two, apparently irreconcilable, facts demonstrates a lack of imagination, insight and empathy.
June 15th, 2008 at 12:34 ampmavrk Says:
Well Pete,
Your democrats JFK extended by Johnson invaded Vietnam on behalf of the south.
Saddam was killing kurds
Ho Chi Minh was killing south vietnamese
What is the difference? Sounds to me that the democrats are not as peace loving as most would believe.
June 15th, 2008 at 12:29 am
WTF? Are you retarded or just illiterate?
I have tried to explain that I don’t see our country’s immediate future in “left/right” terms. I think in “right/wrong” terms. Any honest assessment will conclude that our government has done much wrong. It’s going to be drawn-out, painful, and expensive to right those wrongs.
I can’t make this any clearer: I would vote for a amoeba who promised to start paying our legitimate debts. No one in the GOP has proposed any such thing. They lose.
June 15th, 2008 at 12:42 amI agree with you, pmavrk. Many of us don’t actually worship Clinton or the ground he walks upon, but actually disagree with him on a lot of this. NAFTA was one of them for me personally. If corporations want subsidies, they should not be allowed to outsource jobs or something,imho…
June 15th, 2008 at 12:42 ambut I wonder if any Republican or Democrat would have the guts to actually write a law about that…
June 15th, 2008 at 12:43 amOne good thing about Bush’s oil price revolution is that; the profit margin will go up on domestic goods! If profit remains king? That’s a good thing. Too bad every other good, and most services, will go up too.
June 15th, 2008 at 12:49 amBTW. Our pet troll may want to do some research on paying debts as we go and avoiding lawful oversight. Two categories that neocons have been found lacking.
June 15th, 2008 at 12:52 amContrary to popular opinion, the ACLU does defend Christians…including one Christian who was protesting Walmart’s stance on TEH GAYS…
June 15th, 2008 at 1:01 amYa’ gotta givem credit, usb. That evil ACLU has set policies that have nearly bankrupted the country.
What’s that? he ACLU doesn’t set policy? Why are they evil?
June 15th, 2008 at 1:07 amOops! That should be “the ACLU”.
Who cares? They are all just Islamofacists anyway, sarc/off
June 15th, 2008 at 1:09 amHello? No devastating response?
June 15th, 2008 at 1:15 amYa’ got two minutes to reply or, you’re a commie, fag, junkie with the brain of a lancelet.
June 15th, 2008 at 1:18 amThere you go again, ucsbclassics53, trying to inject facts into the discussion.
Why, oh why, do you hate America?
June 15th, 2008 at 1:19 amDing! Ding! Ding!
We have a loser! You win a “Cheney” for outstanding cowardice in the face of reality.
June 15th, 2008 at 1:21 amSo the troll is saying that FoxNews made the ACLU toe the line?
LOL
That must be one of the stupidest statements ever typed by a mindless conservatroll & Bush boot licker.
June 15th, 2008 at 1:23 amBut Gregor. We must make an occasional attempt at educating the bottom 25%. The sooner they become 24% the better.
June 15th, 2008 at 1:23 amGregor Samsa Says:
So the troll is saying that FoxNews made the ACLU toe the line?
LOL
That must be one of the stupidest statements ever typed by a mindless conservatroll & Bush boot licker.
June 15th, 2008 at 1:23 am
I must admit this “new” breed of troll is not very challenging. But? Much like roaches, you stomp the trolls that remain when the light goes on.
June 15th, 2008 at 1:25 amI just might agree with you, pmavrk, except for one thing.
I’ll begin by saying we would be in far better shape if McCain had received the nomination in 2000. However, McCain has a 30 year history of saying something while voting against it. That’s how he received his “maverick” nickname.
And, his lust for the Presidency has driven him mad. Since he announced his candidacy he has managed to contradict every “staunch position” he’s ever propounded. At least once.
In fact, he seldom gets through a speech, interview, and sometimes a single sentence, without contradicting himself. He’s no “maverick”. He’s a loose cannon who promises more reckless policy. And his selling out American soldiers is beyond treason. It’s just plain, mean, political hackery. He could have built a future in 2000, but, he squandered his ability to fix Bushco’s follies in gaining the nomination. And he’s made it worse since.
June 15th, 2008 at 1:40 amRambling? If you can’t keep up go to bed.
You display more of your ignorant, primitive, fear with each post. I couldn’t care less if you are a realist or delusional. If you choose to vote? Vote your conscience.
But. If you want to spread lies and fantasies? Pick a less relevant forum. Try Psychochristians(TM) and fools for your obsolete subservience. I’ll choose to remain active in shaping the future.
June 15th, 2008 at 1:52 amG’night good people.
June 15th, 2008 at 2:05 amYou too trolls.
ucsbclassics53 —
ohm you mean that same ACLU that tried to tear a cross off of a war memorial in San Diego. That same ACLU that sued the boyscouts because they would not hire a gay boy scout leader? That same ACLU that sued a city forcing it to paint over the crosses on patrol cars but does not bat an eye when the koran is required reading in public schools?
http://www.american-partisan.com/cols/2002/king/qtr3/0819.htm
http://www.traditionalvalues.org/pdf_files/ACLU.pdf
Finally, THAT SAME ACLU that allowed muslim foot baths in the University of Michigan without batting an eye. Please do not tell me that the Anti Christian Liberal Union is not anti christian. They are anti christion at the core.
They may have taken on very few cases to appear fair. However, if you take your head out of the sand, you will see thta their actions speak volumes about where they really stand.
Perhaps YOU should take your head out of the sand…They have a clear stance when it comes to individuals practicing their religion and getting persecuted for it. But when governments like city and state governments try to impose religion, then they step in. Your myopia over the issue is astounding, and your attempts to brush off these clear examples as mere posturing shows your inability to see past your biases and objectively look at the facts.
June 15th, 2008 at 2:11 amyour myopia and inability to look past your bias and ignore the facts for mere talking points, drock23 are a joke…
June 15th, 2008 at 2:12 ambut I’m sure if Bush and his administration told you that if they needed your records to keep you safe, you’d be fine with that…
June 15th, 2008 at 2: