Gingrich: Supreme Court decision will ‘cost us a city.’
Gingrich: Supreme Court decision will ‘cost us a city.’
On Face the Nation this morning, former House speaker Newt Gingrich echoed the extreme rhetoric of the right wing to decry the Supreme Court’s recent decision restoring the right of habeas corpus petitions to Guantanamo detainees, charging the decision would “cost us a city”:
This court decision is a disaster, which could cost us a city. And the debate ought to be about whether you’re prepared to lose an American city on behalf of five lawyers — it was a five to four decision. … That ought to be a principled argument between McCain and Obama, about whether or not you’re prepared to allow any random, nutcake district judge who has no knowledge of national security to set the rules for terrorists.
Watch it:
Gingrich is taking his cues from Justice Antonin Scalia, who in his dissent declared that the majority’s decision “will almost certainly cause more Americans to be killed.”
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Last I checke the SCOTUS was staked to the right due to Bush’s selections. This just goes to show that their agument is so flawed even some of their own people cannot get behind it.
You notice that the judge that cast the 5th vote is not being called out by name, had it been a left leaning judge they would have been attacking personally.
June 15th, 2008 at 11:26 amIf it’s gonna happen, i sher as phuque hope the Newtster’s in it when it happens.
Jeezzis gouking christ, these people are evil bastards. Where’s Grover Norquist’s bathtub when you really need to drown somebody?
And y’all watch and see if the fear agenda doesn’t sweep Bombin’ Johnnie right into the ShiteHouse…
June 15th, 2008 at 11:27 amShh….hear that? It’s the gop sounding the drum beats of fear once again. They’re predications haven’t been very accurate - why would gingrinch and his ilk have any credability. Just more sour grapes from the goppers.
June 15th, 2008 at 11:27 amJayzus,
The Fear-mongering party is really going to the bottom of the latrine on this one!
Saying a constitutionally correct decision will “lose us a city” is a very desperate and deceitful response to falling behind in the polls.
But the Newt is just the guy to deliver it, other than oh, say, maybe that other upstanding Repug, Tommy Boy DeLay.
These guys are some really sick puppies!
June 15th, 2008 at 11:29 amThe United States of America is choking to death on “national security.”
June 15th, 2008 at 11:29 amAnd there you have the absolute bottom of republican rhetoric. They’re now rooting for an american city to be destroyed, simply to validate their Gitmo assertion.
June 15th, 2008 at 11:29 amGingrich and Bush have already cost us a city: New Orleans. They are the true terrorists.
June 15th, 2008 at 11:30 amSorry to be OT here, but this is priceless (from C&L).
June 15th, 2008 at 11:31 amMcCain says “it’s tough, it’s tough in some respects” to be proud of America
ThomasMc Says:
Gingrich and Bush have already cost us a city: New Orleans. They are the true terrorists.
I would throw Baghdad into that mix as well. We have turned that city and all of Iraq into a Repug quagmire, parts of it looking more like a movie set of, oh, say, a major war movie.
Gotta love those AssKlowns; all for Party, nothing for Country.
June 15th, 2008 at 11:33 amThey’re now rooting for an american city to be destroyed…
The bazstards would like nothing better than if a USer city were to be destroyed. They believe, with good reason, that that’s the sure path to Uber-hegemony in the USofA.
It’s win/win for ‘em. If it happens before November, nobody’ll blame the busheviks; they’ll blame the people who opposed torture and Gitmo etc. If it happens after November, they’ll blame Obama and the Dims for not “keeping the country safe.”
June 15th, 2008 at 11:34 amWhy don’t these learned fear-mongers connect the dots? If we allow a prisoner to confront his accuser, how does that blow-up a city?
These idealogues, Gingrich and Scalia, are not overly burdened by their use of logic.
June 15th, 2008 at 11:34 amThat ought to be a principled argument between McCain and Obama, about whether or not you’re prepared to allow any random, nutcake district judge who has no knowledge of national security to set the rules for terrorists.
How about knowlege of the Constitution? Why doesn’t that ever seem to matter to these so called patriotic Americans?
http://progressiveworldreview.com
June 15th, 2008 at 11:34 amNot to mention Falluja..
June 15th, 2008 at 11:36 amThese idealogues, Gingrich and Scalia, are not overly burdened by their use of logic.
on issues like these, if you have to resort to logic, you’ve already lost.
June 15th, 2008 at 11:37 amspeaking about being wrong…
…how is that republican revolution and contract with america going for ya newt?
June 15th, 2008 at 11:38 amI find it sad that our whole approach since squandering our World support has come because of BushCo’s crapping on our Consitution; a document that is admired all over the world.
Maybe, if we were to move back to being a true Constitutional government that doesn’t invade and occupy sovereign nations, we would have more than a token support from everyone else, which would be the best way to stop world terrorism..
June 15th, 2008 at 11:39 amI hate to see this guys lips moving. He is a perfect example of a conservative idiot a liar a fool that some other fool called an intellectual. Now that is a stretch beyond the breaking point.
June 15th, 2008 at 11:40 amYet the so called Liberal media keeps putting reich wing nutcase fools on all their shows, why is that do you suppose?
could it be that the liberal media is really the reichwing fascist corporate media?
these republicans are just like the good nazi’s.
Morning, Tokin. Their two-headed coin strategy has worked well in the past, but at this point, there’s no way Bush could just fuzz over a destroyed city with goofy malaprops - especially if it were to happen in the South.
June 15th, 2008 at 11:42 amWhat extremists the GOP has become. Those “5 Lawyers” are defending the Constitution something that the GOP has taken a wrecking ball to for 7 1/2 years.
Home of the Free and Land of the Brave, only if the government doesn’t call you the enemy and lock you away indefinetly. It is the only shield we have against government abuse. It is the very cornerstone of our Constitution.
Without habeas corpus no other freedoms and rights would even matter. And as far as losing a US city as Newt Gingrich professes, that is only a scare tactic like the ones the GOP used to scare the Citizens at the beginning of the War. With all the colors on the News about the Alert Status of the US, control by fear. We aren’t afraid and we are not going to give up our rights out of made up Fear Factors.
More propaganda and no facts to back it up, same sh*t different day. These guys will have to do better than that if they think we are dumb enough to fall for that line.
June 15th, 2008 at 11:43 amThe essential point that Gingrich and Scalia seem to be missing on this issue is that the SCOTUS decision does not mean that anyone in Guantanamo will be released. It simply means they have the right to contest their imprisonment. I don’t see how that might cost us a city. Why are conservatives so afraid of democracy?
June 15th, 2008 at 11:45 amI keep wondering why the salamander’s cousin newt keep’s showing up of late…Is he hoping for some kind of basement post if the reich winger’s steal another election.?….Newt’s are elected when 63% of the voting public don’t vote…
Happy Father’s day to all dad’s…..Blessings
June 15th, 2008 at 11:46 amIs it just me or does this Repug fear-tossing remind anyone else of the McCarthy era; when there was a Commie behind every tree.
That activity just about destroyed this country, much like BushCo is doing today.
June 15th, 2008 at 11:46 amGingrich? Hasn’t he been out of office since ‘99? What is he selling? Is he building a bomb? It’s unAmerican not to speculate. Someone should tell the FBI.
June 15th, 2008 at 11:47 am#8 Marie Says:
Sorry to be OT here, but this is priceless (from C&L).
McCain says “it’s tough, it’s tough in some respects” to be proud of America
It is pretty funny, I read that this morning.. :)
June 15th, 2008 at 11:47 am(He should know, he is trying to make it worse)
As Cheney would say, “So?”
Why would anyone listen to this reprehensible human being that divorced his wife on her deathbed and was having an extramartial affair at the same time he was vilifying the Clenis for the same thing?
June 15th, 2008 at 11:48 amhttp://www.washingtonpost.com/ wp-dyn/ content/ article/ 2008/ 06/ 12/ AR2008061201695.html?hpid=topnews
Loose an American city? How?
June 15th, 2008 at 11:48 amUnder the reign of our boy-king, we have already lost one city and large portions of others have been lost to the economic policies of Bush&Co.
June 15th, 2008 at 11:49 amEmploying scare-tactics like this, the newt is pandering to the fears of the public which allowed our Constitution to be compromised by the unitary executive.
Sleepy Fred Thompson was on Steffi’s show, making the same argument - but with the added twist of an assertion that the detainees have always had (since Hamdan) the right to judicial review in a district court.
June 15th, 2008 at 11:50 amGingrich: Supreme Court decision will ‘cost us a city.’
what does that have to do with new orleans?
(or, new or-lee-ans, as gramps calls it)
June 15th, 2008 at 11:50 amespo Says:
speaking about being wrong…
…how is that republican revolution and contract with america going for ya newt?
June 15th, 2008 at 11:38 am
All is going according to plan - the country’s still headed in that hell-in-a-handbasket direction. At least until November…
June 15th, 2008 at 11:50 amand wait till you hear about george will on abc…
“if the economy is as bad as you think it is…” repealing thos tax cuts for the very wealthiest will make it worse…
what planet IS he on?
June 15th, 2008 at 11:51 amIf we lose a city, or even our country because we turned into the next Nazi Germany or a rogue genocidal dictatorship, then maybe it should happen. We don’t deserve to survive under those conditions.
June 15th, 2008 at 11:51 am#22 upside99 Says:
Is it just me or does this Repug fear-tossing remind anyone else of the McCarthy era; when there was a Commie behind every tree.
That activity just about destroyed this country, much like BushCo is doing today.
It seems exactly like that. There use of fear and hate made many people do things they wouldn’t normally do. It was a very tragic time in our history. Which they are trying to repeat. Now it is Terrorists instead of Communists.
June 15th, 2008 at 11:52 amand, ALI, to be fair, and we always TRY to be, newt said “could”
June 15th, 2008 at 11:55 amnot “will”… you should fix that headline…
katy Says:
and wait till you hear about george will on abc…
“if the economy is as bad as you think it is…” repealing thos tax cuts for the very wealthiest will make it worse…
what planet IS he on?
After last week’s disastrous “China drilling off Cuba” stumble, he needed to distract, with a bit of political fluff.
June 15th, 2008 at 11:56 amThat’s an impressive amount of factual errors in Gingrich’s spew:
1—they are Judges, not lawyers
2—the decision was made on behalf of the nation, consistent with the Constitution—not on their own behalf
3—A President has no authority over judges’ decisions
4—They aren’t district judges, they are Supreme Court Justices.
5—Nor is any judge “random”—unless the GOP picks them in which case they are random as in often being professionally unqualified
And not surprisingly then his ‘arguments’ are the ravings of a lunatic.
To make any sense of this, Gingrich’s verbal and mental diarrhea needs to be excised somewhat, viz:
“This court decision is […] about […] rules.”
June 15th, 2008 at 11:58 ami wasn’t listening close enough to hear who, but on george’s panel one of the guests (i know it wasn’t will) declared that some people are making too much of this decision, it’s not as scary or bad as some would try to make it seem…
June 15th, 2008 at 12:00 pm“any random, nutcake district judge”
Especially the randon nutcakes who selected bush.
June 15th, 2008 at 12:00 pmDemocracy has its disadvantages. Get used to it.
June 15th, 2008 at 12:01 pmWithout Habeus Corpus, we get Kafka;
We were told you are a terrorist:
Who told you that? We can’t tell you.
What did they say I did? We can’t tell you.
What am I accused of? We can’t tell you.
This ruling by the Supreme Court, if anything, has REDEMED the tarnished opinion of America in the rest of the World.
June 15th, 2008 at 12:01 pmBTW I am actually AMAZED that the SCOTUS managed to rule in favor of upholding the law, the Constituion and the Bill of RIghts. I never saw that coming.
June 15th, 2008 at 12:03 pmAmusing how “Strict Constructionalist” Scalia loses the plot when he doesn;t get his way.
upside99 Says:
Is it just me or does this Repug fear-tossing remind anyone else of the McCarthy era; when there was a Commie behind every tree.
That activity just about destroyed this country, much like BushCo is doing today.
June 15th, 2008 at 11:46 am
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No, it’s not just you.
And it doesn’t just remind me of the Cold War Communophobia - it also reminds me of the fear of Roman Catholic immigrants in the mid 19th Century, the fear of Negroes in the early-to-mid 20th Century, and fear of women’s suffrage in the early 20th Century. All of these evils were, at one time, going to destroy our fair country.
Also worth noting - fear of all of them was extremely profitable for someone.
June 15th, 2008 at 12:04 pmWell, the GOP only have themselves to blame. Three of the five justices that voted for this decision were appointed by Republican presidents.
-GSD
June 15th, 2008 at 12:06 pmSo Gingrich actually said “could”; it could also lead to a restored international credibility, and a renewed commitment by the world community to partner with us in international operations - and wasn’t that one of the goals of the “Coalition of the Willing?”
June 15th, 2008 at 12:07 pmGiven the choice between losing a city and losing the Constitution, Lincoln chose the former.
Think about it.
June 15th, 2008 at 12:08 pmAnd Bobby Jindal, on Face the Corporate Media Nation, just had to defend his past views on Intelligent Design. I hope McCain chooses him as VP. The country needs to see how whacked-out these guys really are.
June 15th, 2008 at 12:11 pmBriseadh na Faire Says:
Given the choice between losing a city and losing the Constitution, Lincoln chose the former.
Think about it.
June 15th, 2008 at 12:08 pm
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Wait - which Lincoln? Abraham? The Lincoln that Republicans are always comparing themselves to?
Huh. Interesting…
June 15th, 2008 at 12:12 pmFunny….Gingrich didn’t mind losing an entire country to a 5 to 4 decision when the court paid the rent due on their robes to bush and cheney.
June 15th, 2008 at 12:13 pmHe’s also saying the decision was worse than Dred-Scott. The man is such an open racist.
June 15th, 2008 at 12:17 pmA few thoughts:
Did you know that the rest of Newt Gingrich’s family pronounces their last name “Gin-grick”? When Newt first ran for Congress, the people of Georgia didn’t know how to pronounce his name, and he never bothered to correct them. He just started going by “Gin-gritch”.
While it is highly improbable that it would ever happen, if we really did lose a city because of this decision, it will mean that we, as a nation, have a moral center.
AMcG773 Says:
Why are conservatives so afraid of democracy?
June 15th, 2008 at 11:45 am
It’s not democracy they fear, it’s the truth. If the truth were generally known and believed by the public, conservatives would be exposed for the liars and hypocrites they are.
Finally, from Newt’s own pie hole:
This court decision is a disaster, which could cost us a city. And the debate ought to be about whether you’re prepared to lose an American city on behalf of five lawyers — it was a five to four decision. … That ought to be a principled argument between McCain and Obama, about whether or not you’re prepared to allow any random, nutcake district judge who has no knowledge of national security to set the rules for terrorists.
When he says “on behalf of five lawyers - it was a five to four decision”, is he referring to the majority of the Supreme Court as mere “lawyers”? And this decision was not the result of “any random, nutcake district judge who has no knowledge of national security”, this was the Supreme Court that ruled this. He is making shit up to defend his indefensible position. Someone turned him into a Newt, alright, except he never got better.
June 15th, 2008 at 12:19 pmGingrich is obviously an Atheist. Everyone knows we only lose an American city when they plan a gay parade causing the big guy to smote the hell out of them.
June 15th, 2008 at 12:19 pmThe republicans have decided that the best defense is offense. They are definatly on the defense. The country has had enough of them but we can’t get them out of our face until we re-instate the fairness doctrine.
They own the media but the message is the same old bs we have been hearing forever from them.
soon they will be just what they are supposed to be….the minority obstructionist party.
June 15th, 2008 at 12:21 pmbarfly Says:
After last week’s disastrous “China drilling off Cuba” stumble, he needed to distract, with a bit of political fluff.
well, he should’ve taken the day off for that one…
really, he is sounding so delusionally obstinate!
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question to you, barfly (and any who know) - totally off topic:
what is the best time of year, weather-wise especially, to
visit the LA area, pasadena specifically…
i need to plan a road trip - illinois to california to visit my son in the coming year…
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speaking of which -
it wouldn’t be Fathers Day if not for the moms… be sure to
thank the moms today also…
Happy Fathers Day wishes to all the dads out there…
never stop paying attention to your children AND your parents.
and never stop hugging your daughters AND your sons…
… especially your sons… and your parents.
have a good day all… later.
June 15th, 2008 at 12:21 pmbarfly Says:
He’s also saying the decision was worse than Dred-Scott. The man is such an open racist.
June 15th, 2008 at 12:17 pm
But the SCOTUS ruled correctly in Dred Scott v. Sandford. I don’t think it was a bad decision at all. The court protected private property rights and the necessity of due process, as well as paved the way for the 13th and 14th Amendments. If anything, this recent case is an homage to the good days when the Supreme Court sided with the Constitution instead of political whims.
June 15th, 2008 at 12:22 pmThe guy is ominous .Anyone want to lay odds on there being a false flag opertion , possibly with the help of a group of Isreali’s who are as representative of Isreals population as the Bush administration is of ours within the next 7 months ?
June 15th, 2008 at 12:29 pmRemember the Maine ?
We’ve have already had a fire in the Reichstag .
June 15th, 2008 at 12:30 pmThe right of habeas corpus began with the signing of the Magna Carta by King John in 1215, and only in recent years is has become a dangerous luxury?
If claiming the right to detain and torture suspects is so critical to safety, then can anyone list other countries that have already adopted this approach? There are likely a few. How are these countries doing in terms of providing freedom for its citizens?
Couldn’t Iraq take a similar approach toward its occupiers from the United States? Couldn’t they detain and torture U. S. citizens by merely relabeling them as “enemy combatants” claiming that by identifying them as such relieves them of any need to observe the Geneva Conventions. And even if Geneva Conventions did apply to U. S. soldiers, might contractors fall into another category?
Even when such actions are confined (at least initially) to foreign soil, the risk that such practices will migrate to our shores is prohibitive.
“The means of defense against foreign danger historically have become the instruments of tyranny at home.” - James Madison
June 15th, 2008 at 12:32 pm#57 curmudgeon
“Couldn’t they detain and torture U. S. citizens by merely relabeling them as “enemy combatants”
I’m thinking Hamdi was an American citizen arrested on American soil and deprived of Habeas corpus and I believe that the law works on presidence so …… Yes .
June 15th, 2008 at 12:36 pmSome additional reading from McCaltchy:
Here’s the link: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/detainees/story/38773.html
June 15th, 2008 at 12:37 pmIt could cost us a city.
How?
Well, let’s see.
That would betrue if a) these people were ultra-super cyborg ninja masterminds who are far, far more dangerous than the thousands of fanatics flocking to the terrorist cause, and b )We don’t have a good case against them.
They’re not just ordinary fighters! Everybody there is ultra-scary (except, of course, for all the ones we’ve been letting go! But of course we don’t have any evidence that would stand up in a court of law–but you’ve got to believe us! They’re really Death-eaters! They serve He Who Must Not Be Named! Let them go, and cities will fall! We just KNOW, that’s all! The mark on our forehead burns! The INVISIBLE mark!
Newt, two points:
!) if you wanted to make sure they don’t rejoin the struggle, you could have declared them prisoners of war. That way, no embarrassing trials, they are out for the duration of the war–whatever that means. Of course, you can’t torture them then, and letting them see lawyers and the International Red Cross allows them to use there Bene Gesserit mind tricks and run Al Qaeda from Camp Pendleton.
2) Plating the fear cards has a problem to it: that you guys don’t even seem interested in capturing Osama Bin Laden. Screaming about eevil super Dementor terrorists does tend to point out that the Bush Administration is a miserable failure. And that, in turn turns your scare warning into a confession that what we’re really in danger from is your blithering incompetence.
“Don’t give them their rights! We’re too stupid too convict them!” does, in fact scare people–just not in the way you want.
June 15th, 2008 at 12:46 pmSorry Knute(Knewt), but fearmongering won`t work anymore…..
June 15th, 2008 at 12:49 pmWhere are all our favorite trolls this morning? I thought this topic would be right up their collective, errr, alleys.
Heh Heh
June 15th, 2008 at 12:58 pmWhat a forkin’ demagogue!
June 15th, 2008 at 12:59 pmSpeaking of Usama bin Laden (the spelling was changed to “Osama” shortly after 9/11, apparently because the first three letters of his name spelled “USA”), has anyone checked the FBI’s Ten Most Wanted List recently?
As has been the case for at least the past several years, there is absolutely NO mention of his being wanted in connection with the events of 9/11.
To see this for yourself, you can find it at the following FBI website address: http://www.fbi.gov/ wanted/ topten/ fugitives/ laden.htm
June 15th, 2008 at 12:59 pmThat’s correct about bin Laden’s FBI wanted status. He is not wanted in connection with the attacks of 9/11 because there is not enough evidence connecting him to those attacks.
June 15th, 2008 at 1:07 pmOk, again, why don’t these so-called journalists do their job, and ask these asswipes how giving a prisoner his day in court “embolden the enemy” or endanger a single US soldier, not to mention a whole city!
Ask them what are they afraid? Finding out that a there are more than a handful of innocent people in US custody?
June 15th, 2008 at 1:09 pmA city like, oh, say, NEW ORLEANS? STFU, Kermit!
June 15th, 2008 at 1:11 pmLike 911, when we are attacked again it wil be because of the failure of the intelligence community. Not because of our judges.
June 15th, 2008 at 1:31 pmIf this is a decision that will kill more Americans newt than maybe you should reflect on the fact that our strategy to combat the enemies who we created ( Saddam and Osama ) last year with billions of dollars in aid and special training to do our dirty work has actually killed and wounded far more Americans than our adversaries ever did on 911.
June 15th, 2008 at 1:32 pmThe CIA and America’s former international policies and those who employed them without the American citizen’s knowledge or approval are the real cause of our miseries and yet are still being carried out in this hemisphere and around the world .
They hate our freedom, so the answer is to get rid of our freedoms. Then our cities will be safe. Right Newt?
June 15th, 2008 at 1:50 pmApparently, “five lawyers” are good enough to hand the presidency of our country to a total buffoon, but not good enough to uphold the rule of law…
What a crock of steaming feces the GOP has become!
June 15th, 2008 at 1:55 pm… WITH video…
June 15th, 2008 at 1:58 pmGingrich quips Bush should have allowed some ‘reminder’ attacks
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Dear Newt,
How am I safer WITHOUT my Haebeas Corpus Rights…?
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it agian, unless Newt proves me wrong, he’s a Fascist.
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June 15th, 2008 at 2:04 pmCitizens of Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union probably were not afforded the right of habeas corpus. That certainly kept them safe, didn’t it?
June 15th, 2008 at 2:08 pmkaty Says:
question to you, barfly (and any who know) - totally off topic:
what is the best time of year, weather-wise especially, to
visit the LA area, pasadena specifically…
It depends upon your tastes. If you like it cool, with a usually low pollen count, the late fall (late october, early november). If you really want to see something spectacular, though, late March, to early August is also cool, but the blooming fields of wild flowers,(a trip through the Camp Pendleton area is particularly vivid) is a truly awe-inspiring sight, like driving through an impressionist painting.
June 15th, 2008 at 2:13 pmOops, make that early April.
June 15th, 2008 at 2:13 pmMax
June 15th, 2008 at 2:15 pm“I think the greatest danger to our liberty is to actually have the country end up in the kind of attack that would lead us to favor a dictatorship for security.”
Goebels has got to take a back seat to these people .Very scary people !
ps . and talking about Goebels …. did I happen to mention that on 911 1973 the CIA overthrew the democratically elected government of chile which led to the deaths of 30 000 people ?
Newt couldn’t predict the sun rising in the east.
June 15th, 2008 at 2:16 pmRecuerdo .
June 15th, 2008 at 2:16 pmfreeman,
June 15th, 2008 at 2:27 pmShhhhh…
Too much truth.
It makes people’s heads explode.
I will be surprised if anybody gets out of Guantanamo due to the Supreme Court decision. But the majority upheld our Constitution, which guarantees the right of habeas corpus except in case of rebellion or invasion. My question is, what’s the matter with the four dissenting justices? Send them back to law school!
June 15th, 2008 at 2:28 pmWho the hell is Newt Gingrich and why does anyone care? The age of the dinosaurs has passed
June 15th, 2008 at 2:44 pmrmwarnick Says:
I will be surprised if anybody gets out of Guantanamo due to the Supreme Court decision. But the majority upheld our Constitution, which guarantees the right of habeas corpus except in case of rebellion or invasion. My question is, what’s the matter with the four dissenting justices? Send them back to law school!
But, PULEEZE, not to Regent U., home of the whacko legal program, designed to totally destroy the fabric of this country.
June 15th, 2008 at 3:02 pmI bet thousands and thousands of the 28%ers canceled their father’s day plans after hearing this from Newt.
June 15th, 2008 at 3:14 pmAbsolutely ridiculous! Talk about your Hitler appeasers. These guys would’ve drawn a map for the easiest way into Poland. Hitler was a methhead. What’s this guy’s excuse?
June 15th, 2008 at 3:21 pmThis court decision is a disaster, which could cost us a city. And the debate ought to be about whether you’re prepared to lose an American city on behalf of five lawyers
What the hell difference does that make ?
Didn’t 5 laywers in 2000 cost us trillions of $’s , respect around the world and over 1 million dead since then ?
Where’s this slimy salamander’s disgust for that ?????
June 15th, 2008 at 3:42 pmYeah Newt killed his party because of his ego and his knee-jerk comments. What a baffoon.
June 15th, 2008 at 3:55 pmFunny..I think the pictures from Abu Ghraib & Ghuantanamo will end up costing us cities, counties, countries etc and may well do so in the future. Who knows?
Idiot and self-indulgent Gingrich of course scarcely bothers to consider this. What a jerk
June 15th, 2008 at 4:18 pmI bet Gingrich et al blames Sy Hersh and the rest of the media for making a fuss about Abu Ghraib, not the people in high places who are actually responsible
June 15th, 2008 at 4:23 pmA failed foreign policy insisted by a POS reich-wing administration will cost us cities.
June 15th, 2008 at 4:46 pmDoes Gingrich care at all that the many of the people who he seeks to strip of haeas corpus rights won back in medeival days are innocent?
We’re holding people handed over in exchange for bounty!
When were habeas corpus rights first established again?
June 15th, 2008 at 5:05 pmI meant to add to my post above, hat-tip to Eschaton and the source story from McClatchy.
June 15th, 2008 at 5:10 pm“Going to cost us a city.”
I vote for Crawford,TX when the dickhead is there clearing brush.
June 15th, 2008 at 5:20 pmI’ve never been all that fond of Elmira NY. Still I love the people of Elmira. Can we atleast give them I heads up?
June 15th, 2008 at 5:27 pmIf we have to lose one of our cities, how about Tel Aviv?
June 15th, 2008 at 6:01 pmMUSHROOM CLOUDS!!! AIEEEEE!!!!!!
June 15th, 2008 at 6:24 pmNewt Gingrich - Is he still alive???
June 15th, 2008 at 6:31 pmNewt Gingrich - Is he still alive???
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June 15th, 2008 at 6:39 pmA friend thinks they may have waited on him recently. He was hanging with Bob Barr. They insisted on separate checks and tipped poorly.
dbadass Says:
A friend thinks they may have waited on him recently. He was hanging with Bob Barr. They insisted on separate checks and tipped poorly.
They insisted on separate checks
They use the stub at the bottom to lie about thier taxes. They just wanted two separate stubs to cheat the entire working class out of their hard earned money by cheating on their own taxes.
Tipping poorly is a pretty much a redneck, peckerwood thing. Especially if there’s some blacks or brown ones waiting the table!!
June 15th, 2008 at 7:08 pmPlease note how they are NOT proposing the Gitmo arguement, just the emotional “need” for the loss of Civil rights.
IMPEACH:
ROBERTS
SCALIA
ALITO
THOMAS
MUKASEY
None of them even comprehend the Consitution, let alone fully understand it. They also have shown CLEARLY that they do not intend to PROTECT AND DEFEND IT NEITHER.
June 15th, 2008 at 7:26 pmSackaliesa couldn’t have said it better. You’re a pathetic amphibian, Newt. With encouragement to all amphibians everywhere to evolve faster than this slime…
June 15th, 2008 at 8:04 pmI get the feeling that the issue for these people isn’t so much about the court’s decision as it is about the fact that one thing didn’t go their way.
June 15th, 2008 at 9:16 pmthank you, barfly, for that valuable information and insight…
i don’t think i could hussle enough to plan the trip for this fall (and i don’t think i could wait till next), though that sounds like perfect conditions for me…
however, i think it would be wonderful to drive “through an impressionist painting”… you may have sold this artist on the idea with only that description… thank you!
i’ve flown over the western states only 3 times, and want very much to drive this time, take my time and take in some sights…
just wish i could find my mid-life-crisis dream car to do it in… these days it’s a paradise blue MR2 SPYDER…
ah hahahaha! and the …$20k it’d take to buy it!
thanks again :-)
June 15th, 2008 at 9:36 pmNYC voted for Kerry by close to 70% (and if Staten island wasn’t part of the city it would have been much higher). DC went 90%+ for Kerry. What 2 cities were attacked? The people attacked see Gingrich’s fear mongering for just that, why are those in states Muslim terrorists couldn’t find on a map constantly pissing their pants in fear of being attacked? Can someone explain that to me?
June 15th, 2008 at 9:43 pmIf it has to cost us a city, or a town, the one this rabid amphibian resides in would be my pick.
June 15th, 2008 at 11:18 pmLose a city.
June 16th, 2008 at 12:20 amLike New Orleans?
Fortunately, “24″ won’t start until January 2009, so we won’t have Jack Bauer saving a city from destruction, justifying extreme executive power and torture for the GOP with the improbable ticking bomb scenario during the election.
June 16th, 2008 at 12:26 amCan I nominate Las Vegas, Nevada?
June 16th, 2008 at 6:59 amHabeas corpus predates our founding fathers. That is why it is built into the Constitution itself. How 4 Justices could rule against Habeas just shows how their agenda is political and not the rule of law. This extra-Constitutional behavior by 4 Justices just shows what a poor job the Senate does in vetting these Justices. The lessons are clear. We must never again allow the likes of Roberts to be confirmed to the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court is probably the most important issue American’s face when deciding in November whether to elect McCain or Obama. Another political appointment to the Supreme Court would mean that American’s will have voted to abolish the Constitution and the rule of law. At that point Democracy will have failed as a viable form of government. It is that desparate folks.
June 16th, 2008 at 8:58 amIf a US city goes up in smoke, my first thought would be the Neo-Cons and the PNAC guys. It would give them the support they need to take over the world. False Flag incidents usaully start wars and movements. Many think 911 was a false flag incident.
Who knows - not me.
Reinvestigate 911 and let us find out for sure.
June 16th, 2008 at 9:06 amIt’s comforting to know that there are “nutcake” district judges” out there. How about “fruitcake”? “pancake”? “pattycake”?
June 16th, 2008 at 12:14 pmThis is a nation based on the rule of law. The Supreme court rules on what the law is. If you don’t like it, change the law.
Of course Democrats are in power, and more will be taking office, soon, Newt. If they do not get us out of Iraq the is a movement taking hold to remove all incumbents.
http://tenurecorrupts.com/
The people need to rule the country, not incumbent career politicians put in place by special interest money. Eisenhower warned of the power of the military industrial complex.
June 16th, 2008 at 2:47 pmIsn’t this what Newt wanted? Another “event” to bolster Bush as strong against terrorism? Now he wants to blame it on the Supreme Court? He is another full of sh*t as a Christmas goose. And another who needs an ass kicking.
June 16th, 2008 at 5:34 pmIf we do lose a city someday it will be done by a terrorist created by people like Bush and Gingrich the last 8 years. This charge is patently absurd on its face. Then again, so is the source.
June 16th, 2008 at 6:11 pmThis story illustrates just how desperately we need a Democratic President for the next eight years, at least, on the issue of the Supreme Court alone. But of course that’s just one of the many, many reasons we’re all too well aware of…To MisterEC, FINALLY- I’ve been toying with the idea of somehow getting rid of nearly EVERY SINGLE member of Congress in one fell swoop (I should say “daydreaming about the idea of”) and though I’ve yet to check out the sight, good on ya- we need real, concrete change, while we can still recognize our country. It’s already bad enough…and just a shout out to “tokin librul”, I’m a big fan of phonetic spelling. Clever.
June 16th, 2008 at 6:28 pmThe only thing that is true here is the use of scare tactics but the Republican Party once again.
July 7th, 2008 at 6:52 pm