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Bush: Critics Of Gitmo, Abu Ghraib And Rendition Are ‘Slandering America’»

During an interview with President Bush on Britain’s Sky News yesterday, Sky political editor Adam Boulton noted that while Bush talks “a lot about freedom,” there are many who say that some of the Bush administration’s torture and detention policies represent “the complete opposite of freedom.” But Bush quickly snapped back, saying those criticizing his policies are slandering America:

BOULTON: There are those who would say look, lets take Guantanamo Bay, and Abu Ghraib, and rendition and all those things and to them that is the complete opposite of freedom.

BUSH: Of course, if you want to slander America.

Watch it (beginning at 15:50):

So, according to Bush, below is a short — but by no means exhaustive — list of those who have suggested that Bush’s terrorism policies represent “the opposite of freedom” and thus have slandered America:

The United States Supreme Court: The Court ruled last week that “terrorism suspects held at Guantanamo Bay have a right to seek their release in federal court” saying that Bush’s policy compromised “the Constitution’s guarantee of liberty.”

The Federal Bureau of Investigation: An FBI report issued last month said that according to its agents, “[m]ilitary officials at Guantanamo Bay used some aggressive techniques before they were approved, possibly in violation of Defense Department policy and U.S. law.”

McClatchy Newspapers: An eight month McClatchy investigation found that after the Sept. 11, 2001, the U.S. has wrongfully imprisoned “perhaps hundreds” of men “in Afghanistan, Cuba and elsewhere on the basis of flimsy or fabricated evidence, old personal scores or bounty payments.”

Boulton told Bush that the Supreme Court “ruled against what you have been doing” at Guantanamo but Bush wouldn’t budge, arguing that the district court, appellate court and Congress agreed that Gitmo detainees do not have to right to challenge their detention.

Boulton, a Briton, then had to remind Bush of America’s checks and balances system: “But the Supreme Court is supreme isn’t it?”

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110 Responses to “Bush: Critics Of Gitmo, Abu Ghraib And Rendition Are ‘Slandering America’”

  1. RUCerious Says:

    Bush’s actions as President have slandered this great nation.

    Resign now, you derelict, before you cause any more damage to our country.


  2. lefty Says:

    GO F YOURSELF BUSH


  3. ralph the wonder llama Says:

    George W. Bush is what we get when we allow the Supreme Court to select the political equivalent of a blog troll to serve in the highest office in the land.

    No critical thinking skills.

    Poor command of language.

    Reflexive recitation of talking points.

    just a bad scene, man.


  4. hil_1 Says:

    Wait what…

    tryign to understand this ‘reasoning’ will only liquify your brain… and its just too damn hot today for that.


  5. spencers mom Says:

    Bush only believes the Supreme Court is supreme if they are in lockstep with his policies. Or if they are appointing him to office.

    Geez, this guy is a lunatic. The entire world is awaiting his departure into oblivion. At least civics classes will have this administration to use as an example of what happens when people are cowed into fear, laws are allowed to be violated without consequence, and power goes unchecked.

    Too bad there isn’t a legislative branch. Oh, wait…

    PEACE


  6. Rowdy Says:

    ARGH!! I can’t wait for his one-way ticket to Crawford, Texas!


  7. Bob Says:

    We have a system of checks and balances? Someone should tell Congress. The Supreme Court is only supreme when the wing-nuts agree with the majority decision.


  8. joe cantwell Says:

    dictators do get annoyed by the technicalities of democracy, don’t they?


  9. spencers mom Says:

    lefty Says:

    GO F YOURSELF BUSH

    Lefty, wouldn’t that be “GO CHENEY YOURSELF BUSH”?


  10. upside99 Says:

    No, Dubya, “all this talk about Abu Ghraib and Gitmo” slanders you and the NeoCon BushCo regime.

    And the world knows this, in spite of what Faux NoNooz tries to tell your 23%ers. The rest of the world is smarter than that.


  11. barfly Says:

    BUSH: Of course, if you want to slander America.

    The sound you hear is the political sludge-pump, finally hitting moral-relative bottom…


  12. StratRat Says:

    Mr. Cantwell is a genius. I wish I would have written those words.


  13. woodguy Says:

    Hey, Chimpy, why don’t you just “fold up your tent” and get your sorry ass back to Texas?

    This clown is an embarrassment to Americans wherever he goes and opens his pie-hole.


  14. bonzo 1958 Says:

    Guess he thinks he’s the Supreme Court also.


  15. RUCerious Says:

    It’s pretty obvious that Bush really meant it when he said, in effect:

    It’d be great if we were a dictatorship, and if I were dictator.

    Lots of folks thought he was kidding.


  16. RUCerious Says:

    Here’s the exact quote

    “If this were a dictatorship, it’d be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I’m the dictator.”

    A legend in his own mind.


  17. Max-1 Says:

    .

    W(orst) BUSH says:

    This is FREEDOMS march…”

    Is that what Gitmo is…?
    Is that what Abu Ghraib is…?
    Is that what rendition is…?
    Is that what torture is…?
    Is that what warrantless wire tapping is…?
    Is that what wars based on lies is…?

    Dear Mr. President,
    Please show me ONE terrorist that has harmed the march of FREEDOM and I will show you a Congress filled with FREEDOM haters.

    .



  18. CitiDC Says:

    Not that Bush has ever claimed he has command of the English language but I don’t believe one can “slander America.”

    One can slander a person, but not a country.

    Unless Bush thinks he is America, which is a possible scenario.


  19. hussein toasterhead Says:

    Isn’t Sky News the British version of Fox News?


  20. upside99 Says:

    hussein toasterhead Says:
    Isn’t Sky News the British version of Fox News?

    Yep,

    And guess who owns it ……. Rupert Murder-dock!

    Nuff said.



  21. po Says:

    truth is the ultimate defense to a charge of slander.

    the person slandering America here is Bush himself.


  22. misshusseinmolly Says:

    “Slander” is yet another term that has lost its meaning the last few years. Once upon a time it meant “oral communication of false statements injurious to a person’s reputation.” Now it’s just another vague accusation one hurls at anyone offering criticism one doesn’t want to hear, even if the statements are true.

    Other words that have lost their literal meanings since Bush took office: treason, traitor, freedom, liberty, security, terror/terrorist/terrorism, patriot/patriotic/patriotism, and I’m sure the other posters here can think of many more.


  23. stateofthedivision Says:

    Bush profanes the idea of America and any notion of competent leadership nearly every time he opens his mouth.


  24. RUCerious Says:

    Another four years of Republican rule, and this nation, it’s ideals and standards it was founded on, will be dead. It’s limping badly right now, the rest of the world sees that with a mixture of anger, resentment, pity and outrage.


  25. upside99 Says:

    RUCerious Says:

    And if it wasn’t so terribly sad, it would look like a live version of the Keystone Kops, the 3 Stooges and DUmb and Dumber, all rolled into one.


  26. leftzone Says:

    You know what the worst part of all this is? That Fratboy is doing all the talking to the BRITISH Press..how come our vaunted “librul” media doesn’t ask him that sh*t?


  27. Bob Says:

    misshusseinmolly Says:
    Other words that have lost their literal meanings since Bush took office: treason, traitor, freedom, liberty, security, terror/terrorist/terrorism, patriot/patriotic/patriotism

    Conservative

    I question if Georgie knows these vocabulary words:
    free or freedom
    democracy
    slander
    co-equal
    innocent

    This goes way beyond, “More death and violence means we’re winning.” Now prisons are a symbol of freedom? ‘Freedom’ is hardly synonomous with ‘rendition’.


  28. Paul W Says:

    BOULTON: There are those who would say look, lets take Guantanamo Bay, and Abu Ghraib, and rendition and all those things and to them that is the complete opposite of freedom.

    BUSH: Of course, if you want to slander America.

    It’s only slander if it isn’t true numbnuts.

    http://progressiveworldreview.com


  29. Wayne Says:

    BOULTON: There are those who would say look, lets take Guantanamo Bay, and Abu Ghraib, and rendition and all those things and to them that is the complete opposite of freedom.

    BUSH: Of course, if you want to slander America.

    Ummm, its only slander if its NOT TRUE, Dumbya.

    Unfortunately, it is true and thus NOT SLANDER, numb nuts


  30. stateofthedivision Says:

    I guess slandering is a hair better than causing people to die. Leaving out the obvious wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, President Bush presided over our healthcare system, which grew by 7 million uninsured and 9 million underinsured. But he does have private insurance companies back. Hear that, Uncle Bucky?

    http://www.kff.org/uninsured/upload/7451.pdf


  31. Above the Clouds Says:

    So now a British journalist needs to lecture our President on how checks-and-balances work in our form of Government?


  32. had enough Says:

    the original preamble as the founding fathers intended it to be:

    We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence,[1] promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

    Notice how provide for the common defence appears to be the ONLY area with NO capital letters? Now when you google this, many sites have changed the entire preamble to all caps or all lower case.


  33. StratRat Says:

    If you want to hear what 6.6 billion handclaps sound like, poke your head out the window in late January, 2009. The entire planet will be cheering Bush out of office. It should be quite a noise.

    BTW, where are the trolls to defend their ‘dear leader’? Maybe they are embarassed too.


  34. Leftside Annie Says:

    Ah yes. God forbid we should commit the crime of lèse majesté!


  35. McWars Says:

    Georgie is holding this country hostage with a knife agaisnt her throat, and the supreme body telling him to put it down is “slander”?


  36. Guido the Loving OBGYN Says:

    lol he was about to say that congress passed a law that trumps the constitution. They have always thought they could legislate their way out of thier crimes.


  37. spencers mom Says:

    misshusseinmolly, I’d add “truth” to your list. Steven Colbert nailed it with “truthiness”.

    Whenever I hear a politician begin with “The fact of the matter is…” I know I’m about to be lied to.


  38. WaltB Says:

    Only person slandering America is George, whenever he opens his mouth!


  39. Arn Gunnutes Says:

    COXUCKER
    PUNK
    TRAITOR
    BUSH
    THE
    GENOCIDAL
    PSYCOPATH

    God WILL remember…


  40. Wayne Says:

    Above the Clouds Says:

    So now a British journalist needs to lecture our President on how checks-and-balances work in our form of Government?

    Bush: “Damn uppity feriners, hey Dick, is he one of them there enema combatants? Damn feriner reporters better watch out.”


  41. rmwarnick Says:

    I wouldn’t be surprised to learn that everybody in the United Kingdom knows more about the U.S. Constitution than Bush does.


  42. Zimzone Says:

    Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich: Supreme Court’s detainee decision will “cost us a city.”

    TP Poster: Bush’s NeoCon government has ‘cost us our Country’


  43. galmud Says:

    Criticism of Gitmo = Slandering America?

    Why is this dangerous fool still your president, the most powerful person on the face of the Earth??


  44. Bilbo Hussein Baggins Says:

    The Bush Crime Family is the one who has slandered America. It is going to take a very long time to regain the respect and the trust of the rest of the world. If anyone can do it, Obama can.


  45. Bilbo Hussein Baggins Says:

    Can you imagine how the poor world leaders feel being forced to spend time with this idiot. I’m sure they are just very happy that this is the last time they will ever have to suffer in the presence of this man.


  46. Uncle Ho Says:

    NOBODY could slander Amerika. However, someone can tell the TRUTH.


  47. upside99 Says:

    Criticism of Gitmo = Slandering America?
    Why is this dangerous fool still your president, the most powerful person on the face of the Earth??

    I hear you, but don’t blame us on this site (other than the trolls). WE didn’t vote for him either time and still are as amazed as the rest of the world as to how that happened.


  48. liberal traitor Says:

    Well, it seems that Bush has a lot in common with Bushies, surprise surprise.

    George, get this through that mush-bag of a brain of yours, and this goes for your followers as well:

    GEORGE W. BUSH IS NOT AMERICA. WE THE FU(KING PEOPLE ARE AMERICA. AND WE ARE VERY, VERY PI$$ED OFF.

    Repeat after me:

    GEORGE W. BUSH IS NOT AMERICA. WE THE FU(KING PEOPLE ARE AMERICA. AND WE ARE VERY, VERY PI$$ED OFF.

    Man, that feels so good, how about just one more for good measure? Sure.

    Repeat after me:

    GEORGE W. BUSH IS NOT AMERICA. WE THE FU(KING PEOPLE ARE AMERICA. AND WE ARE VERY, VERY PI$$ED OFF.


  49. Zimzone Says:

    In reference to the Supreme’s decision last week, Lindsay the Cracker spoke at the ‘Center for American Security’ or some such bullshit last week. He was slowly & carefully trying to set the stage for circumventing the Supreme’s decision.
    This guy is a worm, at best. He brags about being a military lawyer while denouncing the Court’s decision as being tainted by lawyers.
    Cracker, you can’t have it both ways. Take McCrash & LIEberman & go jump off a high bridge into shallow water, please.
    After all, it was military lawyers who couldn’t justify eliminating habeas corpus for Gitmo detainees, wasn’t it?

    Mr. Cracker sums up the entire McCrash campaign…lots of empty words with no substance, spinning facts to fit your agenda and imposing fear wherever they think it will stick.


  50. Arn Gunnutes Says:

    COXUCKER
    PUNK
    TRAITOR
    BUSH
    THE
    GENOCIDAL
    PSYCOPATH

    70 YEARS of Bush Crime Family TREASON against the USA.

    God WILL remember…


  51. MapleStreet Says:

    I thought for it to be slander, it had to be false ?

    Of course, as mentioned above, Shrub = absolutely no critical thinking skills. What do you expect from Mr. Gentleman’s C ?


  52. Marcus Aurelius Says:

    What does Bush know about America?

    Nothing.


  53. RUCerious Says:

    If I were a chimpanzee, I’d be sooooooo embarassed for my species.


  54. Leftside Annie Says:

    That you’re an assh*le, Rogerse. Now go cheney yourself, you unamerian FOOL.


  55. Saint Augustine Says:

    I wish the Brits would give Chimpy a visit to the Tower of London, about a 30 year visit.


  56. LibertyLover Says:

    What does that tell you?.

    That Roosevelt had alot of other POSITIVE attributes to fall back on: — putting people back to work, Social Security, etc. than the anomaly of that horrendously vile act — that was also widely criticized as wrong TO THIS DAY.


  57. Lusmu Says:

    Spencer’s Mom says:

    The entire world is awaiting his departure into oblivion.

    No, not into oblivion. The USA cannot afford to make another Nixon out of this president. Most of the damage is already done, the only way for the US to redeem itself is to convict these criminals.


  58. woodguy Says:

    And in rolls Roger the Dodger, master of diversion, right on schedule, with no facts to back him up.


  59. Wayne Says:

    rogerse Says:

    What does that tell you?.

    That you are an idiot.

    Comparing the actions of Bush with anyone else will not make Bush’s actions right, moron.
    Two wrongs will never make a right.


  60. Patty Says:

    Once again, #55 message @ 3:25 p.m. has no defense for president Bush’s actions and words.

    The good news for the rest of us is that human nature allows for learning from mistakes and misguided deeds.

    Let’s all squawk a little until this president gets the message of our disdain toward his decisions.

    Slander indeed. He’s so inept he doesn’t even comprehend the word.


  61. StratRat Says:

    rogerse Says:

    Well, even roosevelt authorized internment camps…and somehow ranks 5th amongst presidents.

    What does that tell you?.

    We were wrong then, and king dufus is wrong now. And to this day, we are trying to make amends with the abusive policies of a past administration. History knows that what happened in WWII was an asault on our American citizens when they were taken to internment camps. It is and continues to be a huge shame for our country.

    Who knows, maybe next time people with mis-spelled names (rogerse) will be interened. That would be a good day, don’t you think?


  62. Arn Gunnutes Says:

    rogerse Says:

    Well, even roosevelt authorized internment camps…and somehow ranks 5th amongst presidents.

    What does that tell you?.

    Roosevelt was LOVED by the MAJORITY of AMERICANS and the WORLD.

    TRAITOR Bush is DESPISED by the MAJORITY of AMEROCANS and the WORLD. Who STARTED a “war” of AGGRESSIVE CHOICE.

    And as such is a MURDERER and a COXUCKER punk TRAITOR to the United States of America and ALL it ONCE stood for.

    I can’t wait for Bush to DROP DEAD and BURN in HELL…

    THAT’S what it tells ME.

    Thanks for asking…


  63. RUCerious Says:

    Perhaps he meant to say ’slender’ America?
    After all, we are a bit overweight as a nation.

    And with his history of mangling phrases, it would be just as likely than slander. Like Freedom = Weight Watchers.

    Makes just as much sense as his blather.


  64. AMcG773 Says:

    rogerse Says:

    Well, even roosevelt authorized internment camps…and somehow ranks 5th amongst presidents.

    What does that tell you?.

    It certainly doesn’t tell me that two wrongs make a right.


  65. woodguy Says:

    Since the troll is totally off topic, I would humbly suggest we flag him. He has never made any sense and will never make any sense. In short, he is a waste of sperm, skin, oxygen , time and bandwidth.

    “Will no one rid me of this meddlesome troll?” (apologies to WS).

    Flag him. Bye, troll.


  66. galmud Says:

    Criticism of Gitmo = Slandering America?
    Why is this dangerous fool still your president, the most powerful person on the face of the Earth??

    upside99 Says:
    I hear you, but don’t blame us on this site (other than the trolls). WE didn’t vote for him either time and still are as amazed as the rest of the world as to how that happened.

    Well I’m not blaming anyone in particular, especially not this site. I’m just frustrated I guess. The last time I checked the US is a democracy based on a just and powerful constitution which was written specifically to guard the people against this kind of abuse of power. But in practice it seems the US constitution is little more than an old piece of paper that the president can just disregard at will with the excuse of “national security”. Because despite all the lies and deceptions of this administration, hes not anywhere near being impeached. I mean what this man has done to your country and the world would probably make Nixon look like a petty criminal and Nixon was at least forced to resign. So why is Bush still occupying the White House?


  67. IgnoranceIsNotBliss Says:

    This guy Boulton had the perfect opportunity to follow up with Bush’s “I don’t think about him that much” remark and he blew it!! Is Sky News the British version of Faux Noise?


  68. Bobwurst Says:

    “Boulton told Bush that the Supreme Court “ruled against what you have been doing” at Guantanamo but Bush wouldn’t budge, arguing that the district court, appellate court and Congress agreed that Gitmo detainees do not have to right to challenge their detention”

    So, using bush logic (don’t think about that one too much…) the Supreme Court was wrong when they installed bush in 00.


  69. 5th Estate Says:

    I’ve nothing serious to add to these comments so here’s some suggestions for light ( yet deep) relief:

    On Google Video, search for Bird and Fortune

    I recommend the following videos from pages 1,2 and 3.
    Washington Diplomat
    Between Iraq and Hard Place ( utterly brilliant, a comedic documentay, 3 parts)
    Beyond Iraq and a Hard Place ( brilliant)
    The Sub-Prime Market Explained
    The Admiral’s Interview
    George Parr (Army)

    Note “George Parr” is a generic name that ‘Bird and Fortune’ apply to to the ersthwile interviewee ( either of them play the character) –i.e. Minister of Education George Parr” or “General Sir George Parr”

    These sketches are a a wonderful poke at languid British deference to authority, but with a subtle acknowledgement to serious inquiry, underpinned by actual truths. Just take a note of search and view when you can.


  70. Wayne Says:

    rogerse Says:
    Yeah, But one still maintained a strong legacy, so…

    And that explains the price of eggs in Armpit, Alabama…..

    **eyes rolling**


  71. Wayne Says:

    galmud Says:
    So why is Bush still occupying the White House?

    Elementary, Dr. Watson galmud
    Because Nancy Pelosi, and the rest of Democratic Leadership are protecting George Bush from Impeachment.


  72. GeeDubs Says:

    See, here’s the thing, McBushStump doesn’t have enough critical thinking to evaluate exactly what the Supreme Court did…he just knows that as ‘The Decider,’ the justices’ decision was wrong. Does that mean Souter, Kennedy, et al are slandering America?


  73. GeeDubs Says:

    And I agree with Wayne…let’s recall or impeach Pelosi and Reid…enablers to the worst of the worst. Which makes them…the worst as well.


  74. DallasNE Says:

    Bush saying you are either with us or you are with the terrorists is not news. It is a broken record.

    This just shows how desperate Bush is to hang on to some sort of legacy. It won’t work this time.


  75. Buckie Boy Says:

    WTF - this is priceless stuff, the man sees himself as the “Total Fascist Dictator”.

    Impeach Now.


  76. Lusmu Says:

    IgnoranceIsNotBliss said:

    Is Sky News the British version of Faux Noise?

    Actually, you’re not that far off. Sky News is the “sister channel” of Fox News in the UK. They have outsourced at least a portion of their US reporting to Faux News.


  77. republicanSScareme Says:

    The Republican Party is the Nazi Party. Pass the word.


  78. ralph the wonder llama Says:

    Wow. R-2 has broken new ground in trolldom, clearing “Clinton Did It™” in street shoes and going for a new record with “Roosevelt Did It™”

    Well done, R-2! We’re proud of you and your accomplishment.


  79. woodguy Says:

    Looks like our resident troll is outahere. Thank you one and all.


  80. christopher wiwi Says:

    The SHRUB needs to eat alittle FACSIST humble pie……. and choke on it.The SHRUB has taken just a few short years to make this country what it is today an embarassement and warmongering country and to think it took us 200 plus years to become the nation we were before he destroyed it,impeach him and his crime family before he goes into IRAN.


  81. Keith Says:

    from Wiki:

    “Sky News is owned by Rupert Murdoch’s News Corporation via his holding in British Sky Broadcasting.”


  82. Wayne Says:

    ralph the wonder llama Says:

    Wow. R-2 has broken new ground in trolldom, clearing “Clinton Did It™” in street shoes and going for a new record with “Roosevelt Did It™”

    Well done, R-2! We’re proud of you and your accomplishment.

    It never dawns in whatever passes for r-2’s brain that Roosevelt fought against war criminals, while Dubya IS the War Criminal.

    **And do strongly disagree with the Japanese internment camps. That was a constitutional violation that was a shame on our history. It was wrong on so many levels, and a historical lesson on the politics of fear we should have learned, but most of the country is too stupid.


  83. Gregor Samsa Says:

    Well, even roosevelt authorized internment camps…and somehow ranks 5th amongst presidents.
    What does that tell you?.

    ~rogerse

    Your post tells me two things: The first being that you have no idea what you are talking about, as it was FDR (the other Roosevelt) who authorized the internment camps, not Theodore.

    The second is that a president has to get an awful lot of things right, in order to outweigh a huge wrong (internment camps, in this case).

    Curiously enough, FDR -presumably the one you actually were referring to- ranks 3rd in your list because he got many things right: Among others, Social Security, the very same initiative your father figure George Bush wants to do away with.


  84. Gregor Samsa Says:

    In short, trollie-boy, your father figure Bush ranks so low not only for getting things wrong in the first place, but also for not getting anything right (Iraq’s WMD, Katrina, etc), and not even trying to correct course when it is plainly obvious he is steering the ship straight into the iceberg.


  85. nanlichi Says:

    I have to admit that I hate Bush more than any person I can think of. If there were ever a BDS case, I would be text book. But I come by it honestly. That miserable cowardly punk has taken the essence of American ideals, who we are, what we stand for and defiled it. He wipes his ass with the Constitution and sneers in the face of 75% of us Americans while he is doing it.

    I hope he does have his little Museum of Bush Horrors, I will pay good money to have a chance to publicly comment on the legacy of that hateful little POS.


  86. dbadass Says:

    with what?


  87. nanlichi Says:

    BTW r2d2, Bush has shit stains running down his leg on that one too. His claim to fight AIDS in Africa is tainted by his religious wires touching. Combat AIDS but don’t hand out condoms because that would be unGodly?

    Face it. Your God and Personal Saviour Bush is a fraud and a loser at every single thing he has touched. Our collective responsibility is to keep the bastard from doing any more harm before we can fumigate the White House next January.


  88. Gregor Samsa Says:

    bush could also logistically outweigh his supposed bad.

    I think you mean theoretically.

    And yes, theoretically speaking, Pres Bush could do something to redeem himself.

    Realistically speaking, however, George Bush hasn’t shown any incline to admit any errors while in office -the first step towards righting a wrong.

    If that were not enough, his screw ups are of such Gargantuan proportions (not “supposed bad”, but very real blunders both domestic an abroad -or have you forgotten about those evil Iraqi WMD?), that it’s going to take a true miracle for history to look kindly on his presidency.


  89. Wayne Says:

    rogerse Says:

    There are none so blind as those who won’t see.


  90. Gregor Samsa Says:

    Oh, and rogerse, if you still don’t know the difference between Franklin Roosevelt and Theodore Roosevelt, I suggest you a) pick up a book, b) take a refresher course on American history, and c) quit pretending you can argue intelligently about this subject.


  91. dbadass Says:

    No, No I don’t. So maybe if you come up with a few more I might.


  92. Gregor Samsa Says:

    so your logic is indefinite detention of domestic citizens by ethnicity is fairly redemable
    ~rogerse

    No. I never said that.

    Reading comprehension issues?


  93. dasm Says:

    Criticising Bush = “slandering America”? Bush is totally sick, anti-American, and certainly anti-Constitution. Easily the worst president ever, blasting his own people for differing views. How dare he say he promotes democracy? He has no idea what it means. No wonder the rest of the world thinks of him as a blatant liar & hypocrite. If he promoted ‘dictatorship’. I would understand.


  94. Leftside Annie Says:

    And yes, theoretically speaking, Pres Bush could do something to redeem himself.

    Yes, he could commit seppuku on the White House steps. That would go a very long way toward his redemption.


  95. Gregor Samsa Says:

    Leftside Annie,

    LOL

    Good one. Yes, I suppose that could go a long way indeed.

    ;-)


  96. Dirty Hippie Says:

    I fervently hope Freedom marches your traitorous ass to prison


  97. Shayne Says:

    R2dumb2, why don’t you just go Cheney yourself. The nerve of you defending the worst “American” not just “President” who has ever inhabited this country not just the White House. His reputation is not redeemable. If he addmitted his mistakes tomorrow and left office it would be too late for all he’s done to ruin the reputation of this country. But he’s still defending his actions. Sure he wants to fight aids not that he’s looking for a last ditch effort at a legacy. Where has he been on Darfur all these years. AWOL just like he was during Viet Nam. He is disgusting and we all share the blame for letting him remain in office instead of marching in the streets and demanding justince. But you boot licking enablers are even more guilty than the rest of us.


  98. nycbassist Says:

    Gee, Laura saw a lot more agriculture in Afghanistan. Do you think anyone bothered to tell her they were opium poppies?


  99. Stevelane Says:

    I not that those defenders of freedom and free speech at Sky have pulled the video.
    It there an archived copy anywhere?


  100. Stevelane Says:

    my post should read:

    I notice that those defenders of freedom and free speech at Sky have pulled the video.
    It there an archived copy anywhere?


  101. woodguy Says:

    rogerse Says:
    ——————————————————————————–

    dbadass Says:

    you do know what the coloured, underlined word means, right?.

    June 16th, 2008 at 5:47 pm

    —————

    Yep. It means that you are stupid enough to believe a WH website, while we are wise enough to view it with skepticism.
    AGAIN


  102. SteveSOD Says:

    1. George, you are not America.
    2. It’s not slander if it’s the truth, you ignorant jackass.


  103. louise12345 Says:

    Just imagine! Barbara riding shotgun in an old Toyota Land Cruiser, bumping around the hills and valleys of Afghanistan. Personally, seeing to it that Democracy and personal freedoms are taking hold and that the Taliban remains as powerless today as they were the first day the US entered the region!

    Yea, I’m sure that’s how it happened.


  104. jnratliff Says:

    bush has slandered America hell he has shit on the constitution and the people!


  105. Mrhuh Says:

    Bush’s comments remind me of just how much modern American conservatism has become the new communism. It has no room for any kind of human rights or moral absolutes. It equates government with society in a grand Rousseauian marriage. They engage in a kind of paganistic idolatry of State, Empire, Emperor, and Military. Sure they’ll say that government is the problem, not the solution but as soon as you quote them on that they’ll accuse you of treason, anti-Americanism, not supporting our troops, etc.


  106. Mrhuh Says:

    I should add that the only exception to the rule was Ron Paul, but unfortunately he dropped out of the race and now I’m screwed.


  107. Dave T Says:

    All the stupidity of the last 7 years is not all Bush’s fault. We can also thank the Democrats in congress / senate who never put up any serious resistance to Bush, whether the Democrats were the minority or majority. Why do I bother voting for Democratic legislators if it makes no difference?


  108. phunky Says:

    You don’t understand Bush. To him, he IS America.

    When he talks about doing what is best for America, or protecting America, he’s talking about himself.

    There is no one else.

    He is a sociopath, and others do not exist.


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