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Exxon, oil giants prepared to sign no-bid oil deals in Iraq.

map_of_iraq1.jpgFour Western oil companies — Exxon Mobil, Shell, Total, and BP — are in the final stages of “talks with Iraq’s Oil Ministry for no-bid contracts to service Iraq’s largest fields.” The New York Times writes:

The no-bid contracts are unusual for the industry, and the offers prevailed over others by more than 40 companies, including companies in Russia, China and India [...]

There was suspicion among many in the Arab world and among parts of the American public that the United States had gone to war in Iraq precisely to secure the oil wealth these contracts seek to extract. The Bush administration has said that the war was necessary to combat terrorism. It is not clear what role the United States played in awarding the contracts; there are still American advisers to Iraq’s Oil Ministry.

These current contracts are reportedly a “foothold” in Iraq for companies striving for more lucrative, longer-term deals.



115 Responses to “Exxon, oil giants prepared to sign no-bid oil deals in Iraq.”

  1. ucsbclassics53 says:

    Operation Iraqi Freedom – OIL


  2. ucsbclassics53 says:

    Operation Iraqi Libertaion * whoops hehe


  3. barfly says:

    Operation: Uncle Sucker.


  4. hussein toasterhead says:

    In an interview with Newsweek last fall, the former chief executive of Exxon, Lee Raymond, praised Iraq’s potential as an oil-producing country and added that Exxon was in a position to know. “There is an enormous amount of oil in Iraq,” Mr. Raymond said. “We were part of the consortium, the four companies that were there when Saddam Hussein threw us out, and we basically had the whole country.”

    And there, ladies and gentlemen, are the WMDs we went into Iraq to find.


  5. Wayne A. Schneider says:

    NO! NO! NO!

    This must be stopped! Could one of you “free market” enthusiasts please explain to me how no-bid contracts are an example of the “competition in the free market” at work? Shouldn’t these companies be required to bid on these contracts? Isn’t that what real capitalism is about? Or is this just another example of Republican corruption at work?

    People, Republicans can not govern!


  6. hussein toasterhead says:

    From Greg Palast, last month:

    In 1928, oil company chieftains (from Anglo-Persian Oil, now British Petroleum, from Standard Oil, now Exxon, and their Continental counterparts) were faced with a crisis: falling prices due to rising supplies of oil; the same crisis faced by their successors during the Clinton years, when oil traded at $22 a barrel.

    The solution then, as now: stop the flow of oil, squeeze the market, raise the price. The method: put a red line around Iraq and declare that virtually all the oil under its sands would remain there, untapped. Their plan: choke supply, raise prices rise, boost profits. That was the program for 1928. For 2003. For 2008.

    Again and again, year after year, the world price of oil has been boosted artificially by keeping a tight limit on Iraq’s oil output. Methods varied. The 1928 “Redline” agreement held, in various forms, for over three decades. It was replaced in 1959 by quotas imposed by President Eisenhower. Then Saudi Arabia and OPEC kept Iraq, capable of producing over 6 million barrels a day, capped at half that, given an export quota equal to Iran’s lower output.


  7. barfly says:

    Well, trolls, now that they’ll be getting access to that sweet Iraqi crude, you’ll soon be wondering what all the fuss about drilling in the US was about, and why their congressional mouthpieces in the republican party are suddenly silent.


  8. anchor311 says:

    It was all about oil ………. 4 thousand plus dead, 10s of thousands injured, 3 trillion plus in costs …………… to benefit big oil.

    And Bush is foolish enough to think it is going to take 50 years to judge his presidency???? George Bush will be judged the worst President ever, the Republican Congress for the majority of his term will be judged the worst. They will, in fact, be judged criminals by historians. The Democrats who took control of Congress in 2006 will be judged harshly for putting elections before principal!!!!


  9. Namtillaku says:

    I too am prepared to get much richer. Do I win?


  10. ucsbclassics53 says:

    MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!

    ugh…


  11. Paul W says:

    We didn’t invade Iraq for the oil, what a ridiculous idea…yeah right. How transparently bogus, and no bid contracts on top of it all. Is it that they really think we’re stupid or is it that they just don’t care?

    I can’t wait for the price of gas to come down after they start pumping all that oil.

    http://progressiveworldreview.com


  12. RUCerious says:

    Here’s the good news.
    Obama leads electoral vote 347 to 191

    The Iraqis had better start planning for what they’re going to do without American Troops keeping the lid on their civil war.


  13. stewarjt says:

    The three largest known oil reserves in the world are in Saudi Arabia, Iraq


  14. stewarjt says:

    The three largest known oil reserves in the world are in Saudi Arabia, Iraq and Iran.

    Iran’s next.


  15. spencers mom says:

    There was suspicion among many in the Arab world and among parts of the American public that the United States had gone to war in Iraq precisely to secure the oil wealth these contracts seek to extract.

    Trust me, there’s suspicion here, too, and I’d strongly advise that Iraq hold off signing such deals until after January 20th, 2009. These deals are in the best interest of some, just not the Iraqis or the American public.

    PEACE


  16. Zooey says:

    Ah yes, the whole reason we’re in Iraq is finally coming to fruition.

    Next up — Iran!

    ~FSM save us from these sick f_cks.


  17. bumpkis says:

    Aint.gonna.happen. Iraqi nationalists, otherwise known as insurgents will kill them all.


  18. Above the Clouds says:

    Since China is increasingly needing more and more oil to make junk to send to Wal-Mart, I assume they will ultimately have something to say about Iraq and Iran’s oil.


  19. wizard2000 says:

    The Bush administration in the run up to invading Iraq in 2003 claimed that Iraqi oil would pay for the invasion and reconstruction, no problemo, trust them, would they lie, bwahahaha???

    We, the American taxpayer, are still waiting for this promise to be honored.

    We know the new Iraqi government will be loathe to reimbursing U.S. taxpayers for the trillions of U.S. taxpayer dollars that U.S. taxpayers have sunk into the Fiasco in Mesopotamiasco, but maybe the western oil companies, who stand to profit so enormously through these no-bid contracts will find it in their hearts to hand over half of their projected profits to the Federal Reserve, as a good faith demonstration to American citizens, especially those who believed the pure crap shoveled by Bush administration officials, on behalf of the western oil companies, before invading Iraq in 2003.

    Yep, like this would ever happen.


  20. RUCerious says:

    Why on earth would any (chuckle) sovereign nation want no bid contracts for their oil field servicing?


  21. RUCerious says:

    As soon as you take your lips of the collective BushitCo member, DasReich.


  22. RUCerious says:

    of=off, I think you may just get it…


  23. Above the Clouds says:

    The reason Bush invaded Iraq was to re-elected. Ask Karl Rove.


  24. abarts says:

    Wow. How could have guessed?!


  25. pete says:

    Extorting oil from a country we destroyed. Nice. I hope no American intends to travel for the next 50 years or so.


  26. Krazny says:

    I think the guy on get your war on had it right. We invaded Iraq to so Bush would have a reason to give up golf. Makes about as much sense as anything else. Unless you count US oil companies taking all Iraq’s resources.


  27. Zooey says:

    “TheRight” is one stupid piss-soaked troll.

    Better trolls, TP!


  28. buzzbomb says:

    Hey don’t confuse the rightwing pigface with facts. And how about that original name… TheRight, wow, took you a long time to come with that one, eh moron.

    If you honestly believe invading Iraq wasn’t about oil, you sir, are the one who needs to take off the tinfoil hat, oh and remove your head from yr arse too.


  29. pete says:

    WTF can’t they understand about, “IT”S NOT OUR OIL”?

    It’s the heritage of the Iraqi people and they would be well within their rights to refuse us a single drop.


  30. Zooey says:

    Pete,

    That’s the sticking point, isn’t it?

    Big Oil thinks it IS our oil, and they want to know what the f_ck Iraq is doing on top of it.


  31. junogoose says:

    Currently reading:

    It’s the Crude, Dude: Greed, Gas, War, and the American Way

    Even for those of us who have clearly recognized the war scandal from the beginning, the book fills many of the details I had been missing for years… not the least of which being the arrangement of how Iraq was to be sliced up between the oil biggies, conceived well before 9/ll.

    voila…


  32. Freedom Rebel says:

    #37 Zooey Says:

    That’s the sticking point, isn’t it?

    Big Oil thinks it IS our oil, and they want to know what the f_ck Iraq is doing on top of it.

    Zooey nice to see you back, missed you…:)

    Goodnight everyone….


  33. Zooey says:

    Nice to be back, Freedom Rebel — just got home today. :-)

    Take care.


  34. pete says:

    Evening Zooey. Right you are. It’s “Manifest Destiny” with 21st century equipment and 12th century mindsets. All held together by a stunted, childlike, intellect who refuses to stop decidering.


  35. Zooey says:

    Sickening, isn’t it, pete?

    Our “free market” at work. **shudder**


  36. RUCerious says:

    Anybode else recall Cheney’s Oil map of Iraq, the result of the ‘Energy Summit’ in 2001?


  37. RUCerious says:

    Definition of ‘free’ market

    Any scam which puts outrageous profits in big bidness, free of any oversight, regulation, or other annoying hindrance.


  38. Gregor Samsa says:

    There is a very telling paragraph in the NYT article:

    For the American government, increasing output in Iraq, as elsewhere, serves the foreign policy goal of increasing oil production globally to alleviate the exceptionally tight supply that is a cause of soaring prices.

    Now, why would the Bush administration even think that they can increase the output of oil from Iraq, if there was no way they could somehow control the spigot, so to speak?

    And the troll still thinks the occupation is not about oil? Some people suffer from self-inflicted stupidity… sheesh…


  39. Zooey says:

    Yep, that’s the one I was thinking of, RUC.

    **weeping**


  40. Tawdry says:

    Blood for oil. How do the people running the oil companies sleep at night. Very well, I suppose, in their multi-million dollar mansions while the parents of the dead soldiers cry themselves to sleep.


  41. Briseadh na Faire says:

    I scrolled down, so I apologize if someone has already pointed this out, but:

    an attack on anything controlled by these companies is an attack on “American interests.”

    If it were claimed that Iran was behind such an attack, Bush would be “justified” in bombing Iran back to the stone age.

    Covert ops, anyone?


  42. Keith H. says:

    Okay, let’s do a quick review of events, in order of occurrence.

    1. Bush is installed as president.
    2. The Pearl Harbor event quickly follows.
    3. Iraq is tied to it and invaded.
    4. Big oil prepares for no bid contracts.

    Must be coincidence.


  43. ucsbclassics53 says:

    I’m sure you’re right, Keith…after all, if the Bush administration says it’s not about oil, then we must bend over backwards and receive the pee that they say is rain…

    unfortunately, I think some trolls on this board rather enjoy it…


  44. shellyT says:

    You know what would be really cool? If we had clean forms of energy and didn’t need this dirty oil lying underground in other countries that hate our guts. And it would also be cool if we quit burning this crap and quit polluting with it and stopped the C02 emissions that are causing global warming. But instead these greedy clowns will continue to suck this stuff out and sell it to us at grossly inflated prices until we’ll all end up choking and gasping for our last breath because these frakkers can’t stop burning this stuff. Short-sighted greedy ba$terds.


  45. Chocolate Jesus says:

    >We invaded Iraq to remove Saddam because
    > he would NOT allow UFOs
    > from landing in his country!

    hey, thats never been disproven. also, i heard the aliens were zionist!


  46. bonzo 1958 says:

    Zooey says
    Big Oil thinks it IS our oil, and they want to know what the f_ck Iraq is doing on top of it.

    Sorry Zooey have to correct. Big oil thinks it’s their oil.


  47. Dharma says:

    We’re all being screwed to the wall by the World Bank, the IMF, the PNAC neocons and big oil. BushCo continues to give us new reasons why they want to bomb Iran but the real reason is that Iran has said they plan to flood the world market with cheap oil and trade it using the Euro.
    http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/344.html


  48. chomot says:

    We’re all being screwed to the wall by the World Bank, the IMF, the PNAC neocons and big oil. BushCo continues to give us new reasons why they want to bomb Iran but the real reason is that Iran has said they plan to flood the world market with cheap oil and trade it using the Euro.
    This comment makes more since than any of them so far about going after Iran……….


  49. Art says:

    “These current contracts are reportedly a “foothold” in Iraq for companies striving for more lucrative, longer-term deals.

    No wonder McCain wants to maintain troops there for 100 years.


  50. blogenfreude says:

    Nobody could have predicted this ….

    And I’m sure gas prices will be under two bucks in a matter of a few weeks!


  51. Omnipotency says:

    ITT: A gaggle of hippies that think they understand how the world works because a professor told them once.

    Let’s stop for a second and weight what has truly happened.

    1. The war cost a lot of money. Money is paper and electrons and is not required for survival.

    2. 4,000 dead against what, 300 million? Small price for:

    Guaranteeing access to energy and the continuation of America being the Alpha Male.

    Sure there are contenders, but when it comes to raw brute force, no one can top the US. “But Omni, that’s so barbaric of you!” Why yes stinky hippie, it is. However, this is how the world works currently. Humans are no different than a tiger in Africa. We are territorial, we are violent, and we will fight for our own survival. THIS is the reason you should honor fallen soldiers; For their selfless acts that perpetuated your existence.

    TLDR: Pacifists are stupid.


  52. upside99 says:

    This is just like the way they sold us on the ’surge’; send in 35,000 more troops, we get used to the numbers, then draw down 10,000 and BushCo can say ‘we are withdrawing our troops, but it is still at a level higher than before.

    The oil companies have gotten us used to the price of gas at $4, so now they will lower it 10-15 cents and say, ‘See, we lowered the price’. But it is still WAAAAY above where it was. Quite effective price point management.


  53. upside99 says:

    Omnipotency is 1 sick MoFo!


  54. hussein toasterhead says:

    Omnipotency Says:

    2. 4,000 dead against what, 300 million? Small price for:

    Guaranteeing access to energy and the continuation of America being the Alpha Male.

    June 19th, 2008 at 9:24 am
    _______

    So you’re saying that the deaths of 4,100 American soldiers, the deaths of 1.2 million Iraqis, and the displacement of another 4 million Iraqis, was all worth it if the world can see that the US has a big dick.

    And you’re calling us pacifists stupid?


  55. Fred says:

    Well, Omni has outlined the mentality that has prevailed the last 8 years…..is it what we want our world to look like? I don’t think so and so we shall sit the violent children down and make them behave like civil human beings.

    Can we say evolution? Time for omni to be punished for childish behavior that is destructive and non-productive.

    What a whiny little cry baby suck a titty baby omni will be when its stick is taken away.


  56. christopher wiwi says:

    Rotten re-pukes bastards, millions of Iraq`s displaced and ruined lives. well the SHRUB got what he wanted,OIL.Ihope he and his crime family all rot in BLAZES.Impeachment is to good for this bastard for what he has done in the name of Democracy and Freedom is dispicible and downright disgusting.I thinks we should include hanging from the GIBBETT


  57. shoeless says:

    Of course Bush invaded Iraq in order to get US oil companies a piece of the Iraqi oil pie. But, at the time there was a more immediate reason. In 2003 the UN was set to lift the sanctions against Iraq, Saddam would have been free to sell as much oil as he liked, and he was threatening to sell it for EUROS!

    The invasion was a shot across the bow to any other oil producing countries who would dare to trade oil for anything other than greenbacks, and don’t think they don’t realize it.


  58. upside99 says:

    Is it just me or does Omni sound like one of our old banned trolls from a third-tier Mid-Atlantic school?

    HMMMM


  59. A Patriot Acting says:

    Omnipotency- Is that you Dick? Well go Cheney yourself!! Seriously, maybe lay off on the cafeine a bit before you have an aneurysm. Are you, like most supposed alpha-males, trying to compensate for that teeny wienee of yours?


  60. shoeless says:

    Omnipotency Says:

    …when it comes to raw brute force, no one can top the US.

    I’m so proud! I think we should replace “In God We Trust” on our currency with “When It Comes To Raw Brute Force, No One Can Top The US”.


  61. Omnipotency says:

    El oh El…

    Really? A suggested banning for voicing an opinion differing yours? Then a wiener joke?

    At least I know the age group I’m dealing with now…

    Nope, I just happened to stumble across this infestation thanks to Digg.

    I’d like to add before going back to work that the death and displacement of Iraqi’s is of no consequence. They are in the way of the US and while unfortunate, is nothing to cry about. I would never suggest that we should rampantly murder innocent civilians, but they are not Americans. You like to think you’re evolved. I find this amusing since a truly evolved person would realize that as a whole humanity has not gotten past the “Club your neighbor and take his stuff” mentality.

    It would be nice if we could all join hands and sing, but it is not possible and likely never will be. Get off your high horse, travel outside your borders, and realize that the world is a harsh place. If we want to survive, we must secure energy and resources. Can’t bake a cake without breaking a few eggs.


  62. Fred says:

    Omnipotency Says:

    What a god damned retarded fool


  63. hellinabucket says:

    That’s the kind of Bush Democracy he’s been spreading for some time now.

    This is crap


  64. shoeless says:

    Omnipotency Says:

    I would never suggest that we should rampantly murder innocent civilians,

    Really?

    Omnipotency Says:

    …the death and displacement of Iraqi’s is of no consequence. They are in the way of the US…


  65. Fred says:

    Omnipotency Says:
    I find this amusing since a truly evolved person would realize that as a whole humanity has not gotten past the “Club your neighbor and take his stuff” mentality.

    I think this speaks to all intelligent people in the world. This fool defines evolving civilizations thusly…..need I say more?

    Omnipotency Says:
    ITT: A gaggle of hippies that think they understand how the world works because a professor told them once.

    A true bushie. One who wants to redefine reality to suit their evil agenda.

    I’m sorry that I can’t let this trolls bs go but these are the most outrageous statements that a human being can make. This person is advocating violence as a solution to all problems and should be banned from society, not just this board.


  66. dbadass says:

    Omnipotency, what’s up? I’m a little bored but I might be amused by you.


  67. gus smith says:

    If Iraq is offering these no bid contracts, that is one thing. If the U.S. has any say, that is entirely different and bidding is proper. I hope the regulatory agencies that oversee American industries are doing their jobs.


  68. GeeDubs says:

    I’d be bored by Omnipotency if I had been listening, which I wasn’t so I’m not. Hmmm…record profits…record deals…we live in an age of busting all sorts of records. Perhaps when the last drop of oil is finally spent spinning that last engine, we’ll understand how OIL should actually have been called Only In our Lifetime. Future generations will need something else, and it looks like you won’t be getting Karo Corn Syrup much longer.


  69. GeeDubs says:

    Gus, SERIOUSLY? Regulatory agencies in America that oversee American industries are doing their jobs? That…that’s classic!


  70. Luis M says:

    Omnipotency Says:
    I’d like to add before going back to work that the death and displacement of Iraqi’s is of no consequence. They are in the way of the US and while unfortunate, is nothing to cry about.

    Replace Iraqis with Americans, US with Al Qaeda, and you sound eerily similar to Osama bin Laden.

    And then you wonder why people fly planes into buildings.


  71. Omnipotency says:

    This is some great stuff here. The guys in the office are pretty amused by you. Keep it up!

    Oh, and shoeless, you must work for the MSM. No one is more adept at taking snippets out of context and twisting them to their own agenda. Feel free to attack me for any of my beliefs, but do it right. There should be plenty of ammunition without resorting to misrepresentation.

    As for the rest of you, continue to think your opinion is valid and people are listening. Clearly they are since no one is shooting at anyone else today. Where were you stinky hippies when Mugabe killed the opposition leaders wife after raping and torturing her in front of children? Where’s the outcry over the true atrocities? THAT is how I know you’re all a bunch of MSM apostles and not nearly as enlightened as you claim to be.


  72. dbadass says:

    So what’s up Omnipotency? Why you select that monikker? Just curious.


  73. Fred says:

    Omnipotency Says:

    You represent all that is wrong with not only our country but our world. You are the enemy of mankind. You are what we as humans strive to not be.

    You are an embarassment as a human being and the fact that you can make the kind of statements that you make here are justification for your imprisonment.

    I assume that you are just saying them for shock effect but freedom of speech does have it’s limits and you sir have crossed the line.

    You represent the mentality that brought us the nazi’s and the imperial japanese…..the aggession that will always be opposed by sensible human beings. You are the reason the gop is now a dead entity.


  74. tarazan says:

    If this war in Iraq indeed was about oil,as Henry Kissinger,Alan Greenspan and others said…then the oil companies should pay for most of this war operations’s cost…
    If they are the beneficiaries..then they should share the biggest dollar cost.


  75. Tawdry says:

    Omni-Impotency just admitted he’s nothing more than a cave man, with a cave man’s little teeny brain. Ugh!


  76. Fred says:

    Omnipotency Says:
    This is some great stuff here. The guys in the office are pretty amused by you. Keep it up!

    runnin a paper route out of your mothers basement?


  77. Omnipotency says:

    db: Omni has been my internet persona for 15ish years, not gonna change it now.

    Fred: LOL. You crack me up. Imprison me for my beliefs, yet I’m the Nazi. How very ‘civilized’ of you.


  78. Omnipotency says:

    runnin a paper route out of your mothers basement?

    uh oh… here comes the nerd rage.


  79. Fred says:

    omni, fact is your methods have failed…..what do you say to that?


  80. Fred says:

    omni…I noticed you capitalized nazi..


  81. hussein toasterhead says:

    Omnipotency Says:

    Where were you stinky hippies when Mugabe killed the opposition leaders wife after raping and torturing her in front of children?

    June 19th, 2008 at 10:49 am

    Why do you care? Tsvangirai’s family is just a bunch of non-American negroes, right? They’re no better than the worthless Iraqis whose deaths you say are “of no consequence,” right?


  82. Omnipotency says:

    Fred says:
    omni…I noticed you capitalized nazi..

    Yes thank you, I do make an attempt at correct punctuation. You don’t get to pick and choose your proper nouns, much to your chagrin. Care to address any actual points? Or were you just trolling?


  83. Omnipotency says:

    Hussein Toasterhead says:

    Why do you care? Tsvangirai’s family is just a bunch of non-American negroes, right? They’re no better than the worthless Iraqis whose deaths you say are “of no consequence,” right?

    Me personally? I don’t. But this is the kind of thing that pacifists should be up in arms over. Not someplace we’re actually making an attempt at improving peoples lives. I am against nation building, but even I realize that there is some good going on here. It’s a shame you can’t see past your own personally placed blinders to appreciate it.


  84. shoeless says:

    Fred Says:

    You [Omnipotency] represent the mentality that brought us the nazi’s and the imperial japanese…

    …and the Bush administration.


  85. gitrdone says:

    Wow, not only do we subsidize big oil by over a trillion dollars, we wage wars and sacrifice innocent lives for them…all so we can keep polluting fueling ours cars and polluting the air.

    It’s like a cocaine addicted prostitute, willing to sell her body for the addictive substance and in the end, when her body is all used up…is tossed away like a rag doll.

    The nation of America needs major rehab!


  86. shoeless says:

    Omnipotency Says:

    I am against nation building,

    So, you are only for nation destroying.


  87. Omnipotency says:

    girtdone Says:
    The nation of America needs major rehab!

    The rising costs of fuel will cause this to happen naturally. Remember, nothing happens unless there is a profit behind it. We must be nearing the breaking point of cost of current fuel / development of new sources.

    The fact remains though, only about %15 of a barrel of oil becomes fuel. The rest goes into things like plastic, waxes, and countless other uses. This is where we need to worried, not the fact it costs $100 to fill up your SUV.

    My raw material costs have skyrocketed in the last year and these prices are going to be reaching the end user very shortly. You think the economy is bad now? Wait another year when we REALLY start to feel the full effect of these soaring costs.


  88. Omnipotency says:

    shoeless Says:

    So, you are only for nation destroying.

    Correct


  89. hussein toasterhead says:

    Omnipotency Says:

    Me personally? I don’t. But this is the kind of thing that pacifists should be up in arms over.

    June 19th, 2008 at 11:27 am
    _____

    It is, and we are.


  90. upside99 says:

    Omnipotency Says:

    The fact remains though, only about %15 of a barrel of oil becomes fuel. The rest goes into things like plastic, waxes, and countless other uses. This is where we need to worried, not the fact it costs $100 to fill up your SUV.

    My raw material costs have skyrocketed in the last year and these prices are going to be reaching the end user very shortly. You think the economy is bad now? Wait another year when we REALLY start to feel the full effect of these soaring costs.

    So all you care about is your cost of raw materials? If there was no oil in Iraq, you wouldn’t care one way or another?

    Good thing your kind will be a true minority in Washington in January!

    As I said before; you are one sick MoFo!


  91. shoeless says:

    Omnipotency Says:
    ——————————————————————————–

    shoeless Says:

    So, you are only for nation destroying.

    Correct

    I see. That’s why people like you and your leaders are destroying our nation.


  92. pete says:

    Isn’t it cute? Our pet troll thinks he’ll be one of the “chosen few” if our nation falls into totalitarianism. And no doubt he’s well prepared should out creditors call our notes due.


  93. ForTruth says:

    I’m guessing one of us pacifists can kick Omni’s ass. Pass-the-fist.


  94. pete says:

    And isn’t it odd how we are all “hippie pacifists”? Now, I do wear my hair long and like “British Invasion” music, but, I almost never wear sandals and I think every person, and nation, has the right to protect their self from aggression. In fact, I can’t recall a single post, here at TP, which has suggested we should turn a blind eye to aggression. So? I would have to say that omnipotty is wrong on two more counts.


  95. spanky1984 says:

    The Bush and Cheney family fortunes have increased by billions over this war for oil. The current administration is still trying to get the war going in Iran so they can also control an even bigger supply of oil. Remember Iran and Iraq are number 2 and 3 in the world for having Oil reserves. No wonder those are the 2 we are after for the OIL. The leaders of this country know that they can only sustain a world war and control the other nations if they control the oil. Those that control the oil control the country’s, those that control the food control the people.
    The people of this country need to stand up and say enough.If we don’t, we wont have much of a country left by the time Bush and Cheney are done starting the wars over Oil the are starting now.


  96. shoeless says:

    spanky1984 Says:
    ——————————————————————————–

    The Bush and Cheney family fortunes have increased by billions over this war for oil.

    That’s what Republicans call the “free market”.


  97. junogoose says:

    Omnipotency,
    Can you give us your contact info? I’d like to do my part to fight terrorism.


  98. Omnipotency says:

    junogoose Says:

    Omnipotency,
    Can you give us your contact info? I’d like to do my part to fight terrorism.

    Uh oh… I think I’m being e-thugged. OH NOES!

    I would love it if someone could send me a buddy pass to this alternate reality that you live in. I wouldn’t mind checking it out.

    And through all this nonsense, no one has bothered to ever refute a single point. Instead, it’s just a bunch of posturing. It’s no wonder that the only people that take you seriously are your own kind. You can barely form sentences, let alone rational thought and I’m supposed to consider you my equal? Yeah… To quote the guy who got everything right except the Holocost, I consider you untermenschen.

    upside99 Says:

    So all you care about is your cost of raw materials? If there was no oil in Iraq, you wouldn’t care one way or another?

    Way to miss the point. **WHOOOOSH**

    I’m not the owner of the business, I’m not even an executive. I make roughly $40k a year. I’m a regular white color joe just like your parents. I stand to gain nothing, nor lose anything business wise no matter where the market fluctuates.

    However, every one of you should care. That $10 plastic keyboard you banged out your barely coherent nonsense with will end up costing you around $40 in the very near future.

    So keep on pretending people care what you think. Your dEMOcrats haven’t done a damn thing to help the poor since they took power. Why do you think their approval rating is less than your favorite demon, Bush?

    (And if anyone cares, Yes. I do believe Bush is complete retard that never should have been elected. But when you put up choices like Al “OMG THE SKY IS FALLING BUT I CAN’T PROVE IT” Gore, and John “Would you like to buy a used Toyota?” Kerry, what do you expect the rest of America to do? I’d probably vote for Obama if he didn’t have such a terrible foreign policy.)

    Let’s see if I get any real replies, or if you simps continue to troll.


  99. upside99 says:

    Omni,

    But you still have no feelings for human life or respect for other countries and their rights. Your attitude is: “I got mine, Cheney you!”

    And if you actually believe that we are better off now than if either Kerry or Gore had been elected, there truly is no hope for you.

    But salvation is coming in January, you will see.


  100. shoeless says:

    Omnipotency Says:

    Your dEMOcrats haven’t done a damn thing to help the poor since they took power.

    Poor uninformed little troll. Here are a couple of examples. You really need to get out from under your bridge more often.

    Congress Approves Minimum Wage Hike

    With little fanfare, Congress yesterday approved the first increase in the federal minimum wage in nearly a decade, voting to boost wages for America’s lowest-paid workers from $5.15 to $7.25 an hour over the next two years.

    Congress Acts to Assist Low Income Homeowners


  101. IAMZIM says:

    If you understood the economy you would know that oil prices are no more expensive including inflation as they were in the 1980’s but of course you were not born then.

    Today the poor have cable, cell phones, cheap transportation,
    Lots of food and drink. When Jimmy Carter was running the show we would get in line for hours to get gasoline, then interest rates were 21%. Carter ousted the Shaw of Iran and here we are still trying to fix the failures of Jimmy.

    We need more supply of oil and thank god that the Iraq Government is smarter that the Majority in the USA congress. Nancy is on her way out. Where is her “common sense” approach to lower gas? Her word is no good. Grow up and get an educated opinion!


  102. shoeless says:

    IAMZIM,

    Are you, like your fellow bloodthirsty neocon, Tracy, also an advocate for the slaughter of innocent women and children in the quest to steal the natural resources of their countries?


  103. pete says:

    “Real replies” to what, omnipotty. All I’ve seen from you is blustering. Been staring in a mirror while trying to think up devastating insults?

    I get the vague impression you like the U.S. military to wreck stuff. But, that’s about it.

    And, before you gloat too much, check how individual Democrats are fairing vs. the few Republicans who have the balls to face a humiliating election. Lots of people are fed up with Congress (Which some say is the natural state of a representative government.) but most know where to lay the blame. Most polls reflect that less than a quarter of the nation hasn’t figured it out. Doubtless the bottom quarter of the curve.


  104. pete says:

    THF is so hard to understand.

    IT’S NOT OUR OIL!


  105. pete says:

    Dnon’t know what I did there. It should read.

    WTF is so hard to understand?

    IT’S NOT OUR OIL!


  106. shoeless says:

    pete,
    These monsters understand that it isn’t our oil. That’s why they want to murder the people who have the oil.


  107. pete says:

    First “Carter did it” of the day.

    Here’s the deal. If you want to blame Carter then, logically, you must blame Reagan and both Bush’s for failing to “fix the failures of Jimmy”. They held the White House 20 of the last 28 years. Really want to go down that road Skippy?

    BTW. I have a new keyboard that’s giving me fits. Please excuse the sloppy typing.


  108. pete says:

    shoeless Says:pete,
    These monsters understand that it isn’t our oil. That’s why they want to murder the people who have the oil.

    June 19th, 2008 at 4:06 pm

    Sadly true shoeless. But, their responses provide data, if not ammo. And some of their fantasies are entertaining in a sick way.


  109. IAMZIM says:

    #109 shoeless Says: Are you, like your fellow bloodthirsty neocon, Tracy, also an advocate for the slaughter of innocent women and children in the quest to steal the natural resources of their countries?
    ——————————————————————————-
    .IAMZIM, I have never killed a man, but I have served my country! You know the USA the good guys!

    You are the question asking, name caller; what does that say for you? You assume too much and seem to know less.

    I am an American! The R and D’s are both sucking you off! They thieve and steal because…………that is where the money is: my money , even some of yours as you earn more you pay more so get ready to earn.

    Natural resources are for sale to the oil market at the futures price. No one steals anything. Read your history and you will see it once was worthless, they were looking for water.

    This statement shows the ignorance of a child or a disingenuous human! The USA attacked Iraq after 17 UN sanctions and an approval of the USA House of Representatives and the Senate, The Iraqi War Resolution of 2002.
    It is available on the congressional record. You know highlight and paste into a search engine.
    Have a swell evening.


  110. Omnipotency says:

    Continuing to troll. Fair enough, I can appreciate that logic has no place here.


  111. pete says:

    Well. At least the omnitroll realizes it doesn’t belong here. Here’s a “D-”. You earned every bit.


  112. dbadass says:

    Sure but I have a hotel on St James…


  113. shoeless says:

    Tracy5 Says:

    “The no-bid contracts are unusual for the industry, and the offers prevailed over others by more than 40 companies, including companies in Russia, China and India […]”

    If those other counties didn’t offer any support to oust Saddam then you are damn right they shouldn’t be allowed to bid on developing Iraq’s oil fields.

    You tell ‘em Tracist. The US invaded Iraq and slaughtered hundreds of thousands of innocent women and children to get that oil with no help from those countries. Iraq’s oil field belong to US oil companies now. If Russia, China, and India want oil, they can do their own invading and murdering in some other third world country.


  114. IAMZIM says:

    You are sick and have no regard for fact. Oil is sold on a world market and you have to invest to get the oil out of the ground and then it is sold on the open market. What do you all learn at those public schools. Clueless! Ignorant! You have the ability to learn and you attack America. Fools all of you!!


  115. IAMZIM says:

    Tracy5 is showing her age 5. You have a computer use the search engine of your choice and get the truth. you are such a “hate freak” Grow up child! Get out of your parents house and earn a living you will change your tune.

    Democrats are and have obstructed the legislation to drill oil that is the direct result of high oil prices. You are the problem along with congress. Congress has been incharge for 2 years and look at the results!



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