wouldn’t this obvious and blatant sh*tting upon and giving the middle finger to our representatives (I mean actually putting it “in writing”) make the lowest knuckle dragging rightwingnut stop for a second and realize THEY, too, are being ignored, sh*t on and laughed at?

Research shows authoritarian followers will allow any behavior on the part of their authoritarian leaders, even that which contradicts their proclaimed “beliefs” and/or “values”.

Fookin nuts innit?

That has been bandied about much here. But cancelling the election would cause this country to explode. No way it happens, even if Cheney really were Emperor Palpatine.

See? Bush is gonna leave Iraq just the way he found it!

I am actually heartened by Maliki’s performance of late. And never forget, he came to power by the ballot box, not a coup d’etat.

Don’t get me wrong, it is indeed a clusterfck, but Maliki is no Saddam.

June 18th, 2008 at 1:02 pm
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It wouldn’t surprise me. Though I imagine that wouldn’t be a very popular measure among the Sunnis in the GOI, as it would be a de facto declaration of autonomy for the Kurdish north, a major oil-prodicing sector.

And the Shi’ite south would probably cry foul and want to negotiate their own separate agreements with Iran and the US, further isolating the Sunni Arab region. In which case we’ll probably have to protect both of these from Sunni aggression with the enforcement of no-fly zones.

Meanwhile, we can get the UN to help overcome Iraqi food shortages and reduce the world price of oil with some sort of trading scheme – food for oil, something like that. Of course, to keep all of this in line, we’ll need to put in a much stronger leader – someone who can really hold Iraq together with an iron fist. Maybe someone we gave some CIA training to at one point.

See? Bush is gonna leave Iraq just the way he found it!

Sheesh – what a clusterfcuk.

You got that right.

Anyone want to take odds on Bush trying to negotiate a seperate agreement with the Kurds if Maliki doesn’t blink? I am sure the threat is already on the table.

I guess I am confused as to why, six years later, we are still defending Iraq. What happened to you stand up we stand down? Why won’t the Iraqi’s stand up. Oh yeah, I forgot, it’s much easier to stand behind US soldiers so we can protect them than it is to set up a system whereby they can protect themselves.

It isn’t going to happen until we leave. They have no incentive.

It’s not like smart people have not recognized this criminal administration’s contempt and disregard for the opinions of the American people for the past 7+ years now, but wouldn’t this obvious and blatant sh*tting upon and giving the middle finger to our representatives (I mean actually putting it “in writing”) make the lowest knuckle dragging rightwingnut stop for a second and realize THEY, too, are being ignored, sh*t on and laughed at?

Nahhhhhhhhhhh. Lost my mind there for a second.

These right wing numbnutz keep looking at Germany and Japan as their models completely misguided comparison anyway) in order to justify their schemes instead of looking at the local history staring them right in the face.

This would be, pure and simply, a defense treaty, and MUST have congressional approval. The White House cannot commit to anything, because they cannot appropriate funding…again, a function that belongs to Congress alone.

June 18th, 2008 at 11:19 am
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Now that’s an interesting twist. So the two countries with a paralyzing fear of their own Kurdish populations are proposing a competing security agreement. No wonder the Kurds want to push our agreement through.

Sheesh – what a clusterfcuk.

June 18th, 2008 at 11:19 am

bumpkis – do you have a link to this newspaper (that’s translated into English?)

These are some key words in this line of crap.
Pure and complete BS.
What was that quote again ?
‘War becomes perpetual when it’s used as a rational for peace.’

Iraqi government asked both Turkey and Iran to provide written guarantees on security cooperation with Iraq, in exchange for abandoning the security agreement the U.S.

The newspaper uncovered, that Baghdad is waiting for answers from Tehran and Ankara, and will cancel the whole idea of the agreement in case Iran and Turkey provide such guarantees.