Comments on: McCain Now Says He’s ‘More Than Happy’ To Consider Flip-Flopping On Alaskan Oil Drilling

By: swordsbane

swordsbane — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 23:06:34 +0000

Wow. It’s getting so every time he says “I may reconsider my position” I have to wonder which position he’s has in mind.

By: upside99

upside99 — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 22:19:38 +0000

TheRight Says:
I have never been to Alaska.

Let me have it guys. Both barrels. Nuke me. Worse yet, make me read this blog 24 hours a day for one year.

I don’t see then, why you are trying to defend ANWR leasing when there is almost no impact on the price of oil and even that won’t hit for at least 10 years.

Either you work in the oil industry or your parents have deep investments in it.

By: dbadass

dbadass — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 21:44:02 +0000

Why the double post. Was it to get my to correct simply to simple?

By: dbadass

dbadass — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 21:43:19 +0000

I have been to Alaska. I think the term you might be looking for is Innuit. Simply lifestyle changes would yield greater returns than anything you will ever get out of ANWR

By: dbadass

dbadass — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 21:43:16 +0000

I have been to Alaska. I think the term you might be looking for is Innuit. Simply lifestyle changes would yield greater returns than anything you will ever get out of ANWR

By: pete

pete — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 18:30:26 +0000

Um. Here’s the problem. ANWR was envisioned as a reserve of last resort. For political reasons, the Reps throw it out every so often, but, no one mentions the biggest issue. COST.

Even if everything related to location and weather goes as planned? It will still be the most expensive crude on the planet. All of that, mind you, doesn’t include costs for spill cleanup and disposal.

That’s why the most aggressive plans, from the oil companies, don’t call for much production before 2018. And even then most projections are that they will pump/ship about 2-7% of our current demands. If our net consumption is still rising then? That 2-7% shrinks markedly.

I think that most would say that there are better targets for easing the current oil crunch. Personally? I would prefer to see the oil stay where it is until we use less for fuel. Then we can at least continue making plastics. But, the worst possible move would be to rush production, cutting corners and taking shortcuts, for political capital. The best that this could accomplish is the depletion of a reserve which may prove invaluable at a latter date.

By: upside99

upside99 — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 18:28:29 +0000

Guess TheRight found the kitchen a bit too hot for his arse.

By: Patriot46

Patriot46 — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 18:23:03 +0000

The Right says “If you have issues with the contents, please contact the Eskimos who wrote it. Watch the movie also. I will provide the popcorn.”
Just visit us in the Last Frontier and use that bigoted term, and see how far they Alaska natives can float your carcus down the Yukon. Changin my name to Still Just a Chechako.

By: Patriot46

Patriot46 — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 18:16:46 +0000

You say McFlip and I say McFlop, You say McSame and I say McBush. Anyway you cut it McNursing home ready is one helluva scary dude. If you liked Iraq you’ll really like Iran!

By: upside99

upside99 — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 18:14:01 +0000

TheRight,

You still are dodging my questions in numbers 27 and 28.

By: MyFreedomWings

MyFreedomWings — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 18:03:45 +0000

Also it should be noted: it would take far too long to get the estimated amount that exists there — which is small in comparison to America’s consumption…which means it’s pretty much a non-solution, period. Ignoring, of course, that we can’t rely on our government to care more about us than their corporate buddies and their profits…so even if we did go through with it, there’s no gaurentee they’d sell it to us anyway.

And it would do virtually nothing to the prices.

So basically the whole point is, this is a pretty stupid, waste of money and effort to do. We need real solutions. If our government devoted more time and money into alternative energy, alternative transportation technologies, and alternatives fuels (like my favorite, algae fuel).l. we would probably all be feeling alot better before the year is out.
But I doubt that this will happen.

By: MyFreedomWings

MyFreedomWings — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 17:59:37 +0000

TheRight Says:
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Read this Regressives!

Lastly at the top of ANWR, there is a special area of 1.5 million acres on the Arctic Coastal Plain called the “10-02” Area. The 10-02 Area takes its name from the section of the Congressional bill, the Alaska National Interest Lands Conservation Act (ANILCA), that expanded ANWR in 1980. In Section 10-02 Congress set aside 1.5 million acres of the Arctic Coastal Plain specifically for “oil and gas exploration”. This 10-02 Area is classified legally neither as “refuge” nor as “wilderness”, rather defined and separated by Congress for oil and gas exploration due to its well-known geological evidence of potential large hydrocarbon deposits. The 10-02 area, is bordered on the north by the Beaufort Sea, on the east by ANWR “wilderness” area and the U.S. Canadian border, and on the west by the Canning River and ANWR outer border. It is completely flat and barren with no trees, hills, or mountains. Nine months of the year is covered with snow and ice and practically void of life. Three of those months are in total 24 hour darkness. In the 6 weeks of summer the coastal plain is dotted with thousands of lakes and is covered by boggy tundra on permafrost (permanently frozen ground).

The 10-02 Area is a further anomaly within ANWR’s border in that it contains 92,000 acres of private land owned by the Kaktovik Inupiat Corporation (KIC) of Kaktovik, ANWR’s only settlement and population. The subsurface rights of this 92,000 acres are owned by the Inupiat native organization the Arctic Slope Regional Corporation (ASRC).

It can’t be completely barren even if it’s flatland.
Wildlife even lives in the city, though in smaller amounts…there’s always life. Even where it’s cold and freezing, or haven’t you ever read about Antarctica?

Privately owned means that hardly anyone visits it. Most of Anwar is untouched. Millions of acres is ALOT for nothing to be on, if you ask me. And drilling there could potentially pollute surrounding areas, especially since I imagine you’d need special equipment because of how the weather gets in that particular area.

Sorry kid, no fortune cookie for you.

By: upside99

upside99 — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 17:47:53 +0000

Or, as the latest thread just appeared, maybe you work for Don Young R-AK, another Poster Child of the Repug Depraved Party.

By: upside99

upside99 — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 17:42:53 +0000

TheRight:

You gotta be a paid troll of the Repugs, the oil companies or on staff with Teddy “Bridge to Nowhere” Stevens.

Which is it?

I have been to Prudhoe Bay many times and that place is a f’ing disaster area. Ever been there?

Have you seen the aftermath of the Exxon Valdez? I have, and it is still killing wildlife this many years later.

Gotta hear your answer on this one.

By: regular_joe

regular_joe — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 17:12:04 +0000

McCain Now Says He’s ‘More Than Happy’ To Consider Flip-Flopping On Alaskan Oil Drilling”

At this point in his career, it getting hard to find an issue that he hasn’t Flip-Flopped on already.

POP QUIZ: Can anyone name an issue on which McSame has NOT Flip-Flopped?

By: pete

pete — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 17:08:07 +0000

LOL, Leftside Annie!

On a related note: I wonder how much global climate would be helped if we forbade politicians from wasting hot air? I once read that a normal person puts out three times the CO2 of a car over a year. We could probably double that for politicians, so, every politician who stops breathing would be equal to six cars!And some of them would be silly enough to vote for a “hold your breathe” Amendment.

By: pete

pete — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 17:00:56 +0000

While I am still amazed by the number and rapidity of McPander Bears “flip-flops”, it’s nothing new. If one examines his political career one will see a clear pattern. He will sponsor, co-sponsor or vocally support a particular piece of legislation; only to vote the Party line. Often leaving his colleagues in open-mouth astonishment.

He and his fans claim this makes him a “maverick”. I say it makes him deceitful, duplicitous and utterly unworthy of trust.

By: Leftside Annie

Leftside Annie — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 16:54:40 +0000

Too bad they can’t use the wind created by McLame’s F5 spinning to generate electricity!!

Jebus, he could power Los Angeles all by himself.

By: Zimzone

Zimzone — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 15:46:17 +0000

McFlipper flops again!

Tune in tomorrow to see his plan to invade Mesopotamia!

By: upside99

upside99 — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 15:39:26 +0000

TheRight Says:
McPresident said:

“I believe that ANWR is a pristine area.”

False statement.
The tiny area that will be drilled is covered with ice during the winter and barren land during the summer. View a movie and photos of ANWR at

Hey Dipsh!t,

Read below:

pris·tine Listen to the pronunciation of pristine
Pronunciation:
\?pris-?t?n, pri-?st?n, especially British ?pris-?t?n\
Function:
adjective
Etymology:
Latin pristinus; akin to Latin prior
Date:
1534
1: belonging to the earliest period or state : original 2 a: not spoiled, corrupted, or polluted (as by civilization) : pure b: fresh and clean as or as if new
— pris·tine·ly adverb

I REALLY wish we could get some better class of trolls, especially with a bit better grasp of the English language.