Comments on: John and Cindy McCain would reap $373,429 if McCain’s tax proposal were enacted.

By: tommythecop

tommythecop — Wed, 25 Jun 2008 04:22:40 +0000

Let me see,a McCain tax plan that enormously benefits McCain? Whoda thunkit?

By: LoraS

LoraS — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 03:53:05 +0000

And John McCain broke from Rev. Hagee (who praised Hitler for trying to get the Jews out of Europe and back to the Middle East) because it became politially expedient for him to do so.
BTW, this thread is supposed to be about the candidates’ tax plans. Let’s stay on topic.
In any case, I’m about to go off to a modest fundraiser for Obama. So “sayonara” for tonight.

Tracy5 says:
Obama quit because it was politially expedient for him to do so.

By: LoraS

LoraS — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 02:06:04 +0000

Tracy5,
You apparently have not met Obama and, therefore, have no true idea of how much he was shaped by Rev. Wright. To wit, I had a grandmother, who disliked Catholics and Blacks. I had to listen to her, but that does not mean her views shaped mine or that of my siblings at all. One of my sisters even adopted a black child, and I have plenty of friends who are Catholic, some lapsed, some not.
And if you are holding “told a lie” the standard, you certainly should not be able to support the current occupant of the White House nor John McCain. Oh, and I recall your repeated fixation on Clinton’s blow job. Do you really think the admitted adulterer Senator McCain never had an extramartial BJ?
Just food for thought, as I don’t have time to go into a long drawn-out argument with you this weekend.

Tracy5 says:
Lies are lies. Saying that you had never heard any of Wright’s anti-American BS, that you relied on him to shape your personal beliefs but expect people to believe that you don’t share his views when you made a choice to stay in the church is important when you are asking people to vote you in as president of the U.S. Political positions or actions you may or may not take as president is(SIC–the subject is plural here) directly related to your personal beliefs which in Obama’s case were shaped by Wright.

By: shoeless

shoeless — Fri, 20 Jun 2008 16:34:28 +0000

Tracy5 Says:

#133

I have family and friends in the military so please don’t feed me a line of your BS.

That reminds me of a comment Tracist made on another thread yesterday.

Tracy5 Says:

Oh and BTW one of by best friends is black so don’t start making bigoted judgements about me being a racist when you have nothing to back it up.

June 19th, 2008 at 2:38 pm

By: livelongandprosper

livelongandprosper — Fri, 20 Jun 2008 14:07:20 +0000

Tracy5 Says:

#139

Do you really want this liar in the White House?

They are all liars. It comes down to what lies are more tolerable to the good of the people. Somehow, lying about a blowjob and what was heard at a church is much more serious to some people than lying about going to war for oil etc. I would like to “hear” what was said at the meetings Cheney had with the oil industry – unfortunately, you can’t find that on youtube!

By: LoraS

LoraS — Fri, 20 Jun 2008 07:01:41 +0000

The really sad part is that given Cindy’s vast inheritance, the McCains probably don’t even regard $370,000 as a lot of money. Yet that is more than over 90% of Americans earn annually.

By: dbadass

dbadass — Fri, 20 Jun 2008 04:22:26 +0000

Your sensitivity seems to indicate that I already have.

By: dbadass

dbadass — Fri, 20 Jun 2008 04:03:24 +0000

“dbadass Says:

When you live using just what you need and making just what you need to to access those things you need just to get by, you will find peace”

So since you don’t need a computer to be posting here to “get by” tell us when you plan on leaving.

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When I am done making a fool of you…

By: WaltTheMan

WaltTheMan — Fri, 20 Jun 2008 01:47:06 +0000

A positive sign about G W Bush, he makes Mugabe’s practices in Zimbabwe take on a positive light!

By: barfly

barfly — Fri, 20 Jun 2008 00:38:11 +0000

Well, it’s good to see TP finally took the suggestion I e-mailed to them two months ago!

Now there’s a rapid-response team!

By: belac

belac — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 23:49:14 +0000

Tracy-
I have friends and family in the military too, so please stop eating the BS that the Bushies feed you… we can’t afford more of this right-wing insanity.
and yes, I really, really want Barack in the White House but no, he’s not a liar- his church isn’t a scary black people church, it just plays one on TV.
BTW, I have family and friends in the UCC church as well, so please don’t feed me your line of BS about that either, ‘kay?
Cool.

By: hilojodi

hilojodi — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 23:27:17 +0000

Can you imagine finding out your husband’s or wife’s real age on your wedding day, and thinking it’s funny that you had both lied to each other about this?! Don’t take my word for it, watch Cindy McCain tell this story. Do you really want these two people in the White House?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hv7LUT1ezm0

By: ucsbclassics53

ucsbclassics53 — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 23:01:36 +0000

#31

“How can anyone be proud of the way BushCo has squandered our grandchildren’s money by lining the pockets of his cronies?”

That pales in comparison to the amount of money our wastful federal government has done.

I agree Tracy! This war in Iraq is one example of our wasteful federal government’s spending…and it’s just that under this administration, they’ve turned government into a funneling operation straight to their cronies…Waste indeed!

I would wager that programs which the right-wing love to hate take up far less money than corporate subsidies…

By: Leftside Annie

Leftside Annie — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 22:44:19 +0000

Tracy5 Says:

#23

“Well, when you increase military spending, like Bush has, thats keeping peoples money. How can you be proud of that?”

FYI providing from the defense of country is mandated by the Constitution…so yes I am proud to send my tax dollars to support our troops.

Tracy5, I repeat: Got stupid?

You aren’t “supporting our troops” idiot. You’re supporting KBR, Halliburton, Blackwater and a whole other host of parasites, compliments of the Chimpy adminstration.

Maybe you’re just too friggin’ stupid to know you’re getting screwed, eh?

By: gummitch

gummitch — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 22:32:03 +0000

rogerse Says:

#88 gummitch Says:

your quoting of my source hasn’t proven anything, it gave the real cost, and the liberal estimate that you seem to prefer, but nothing about funding with debt.

As I already said, your ignorance about the “funding with debt” is so profound that I despair at being able to convince you. Of course, I don’t really care whether you understand or not, and your stubborn insistence on remaining ignorant is really your own problem, not mine.

However, to be merciful, here is an article from a reputable newspaper that spells it out.

The US can certainly afford the war, says budget @n@lyst Stan Collender, a managing director of Qorvis Communications in Washington. But the spending is taking resources from other areas, he notes. Because the US is borrowing to finance the war, the cost will be borne by future generations. “And it’s still going to be one of the most expensive wars we have ever fought,” he says.

Unlike in previous major wars, the United States has cut taxes at the same time it has increased military spending. “It’s fair to say all of the money spent on the war has been borrowed,” says Richard Kogan, a senior fellow at the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, a think tank in Washington. “But eventually everything has to be paid for.”

This may eventually turn out to be a double post. I made the mistake of not editing the dreaded “a n a lyst”.

By: dbadass

dbadass — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 22:28:57 +0000

Tracy5:
Don’t sweat it. When you live using just what you need and making just what you need to to access those things you need just to get by, you will find peace. It is the desire to have more than you need that creates your inner stress and causes you to feel resentment toward those whom have more and those whom have less. Who is deluded? The one who lacks peace of mind

By: upside99

upside99 — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 22:28:16 +0000

shoeless Says:

Tracist5 LOVES the Iraq war. He loves it, loves it, loves it. It’s the best war ever!

Most likely, he has never served and has a job with one of the defense contractors.

By: shoeless

shoeless — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 22:26:53 +0000

Tell us Tracist5, what is your favorite part of the Iraq war? Is it the hundreds of thousands of dead women and children, or perhaps the billions of taxpayer dollars being stolen by private defense contractors?

By: AMcG773

AMcG773 — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 22:26:52 +0000

Tracy5 Says:

That is your are under the dilusion that tax revenues decrease when taxes are reduced.

Huh? No seriously, your writing is incoherent. Or perhaps you’ve had an “optical delusion.”

By: RUCerious

RUCerious — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 22:24:27 +0000

When government takes 60 cents of a high-income person’s next dollar of wage income, the taxpayer has less incentive to work but more incentive to game the tax system with complex tax planning,” says Prante.
Tell Prante to get his panties unknotted…

For those making over $100,000 a year, they aren’t going to be ’shirking’ or lacking incentive to work. Losing that high paying job might just be incentive to work..
Straw man argument extraordinairre!