Comments on: House passes surveillance bill with telecomm immunity.

By: Keith H.

Keith H. — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 16:03:30 +0000

Well, my guy’s in the ney column.
Good for you Earl.
I’ve thought that Obama provided hope.
That is now gone, and with it, my vote.

By: upright left

upright left — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 05:15:20 +0000

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curmudgeon Says:

Have you ever done anything in your life that you wouldn’t want your closest family members and friends to know about? Alternatively, have you ever done anything that might appear suspect to an outside observer, but for which a rational explanation exists?

Should the government ever decide to take away a right that is meaningful to you, including those “protected” under any and all of the amendments to our constitution, would you still be willing to voice your objection if your past actions were to be publicized to all?

If you have nothing to worry about in this regard, send in your application for sainthood. Approval should be a “slam dunk.”

With regard to members of Congress, can you imagine the power that whoever possesses and controls such information has over everyone?

Could that be why, absent significant reform with regard to how business is conducted in Washington, we will never see the opposition (e.g., Dems voting against this bill) rise to the point that the overall goals of those running this country are impeded?
June 20th, 2008 at 2:17 pm
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We’ve all done things of which we are not proud, but things over which we would allow ourselves to be blackmailed? I have nothing to hide that is that serious, how about you? You don’t honestly believe that the 105 Dems are closeted gays or criminals? If so, then one would have to assume the same for Repubs and the reasoning for their votes. More likely, none of them are being blackmailed and they are all acting like politicians. Some votes are cast in the interest of their constituents and some are cast in their own interest.

By: COProgressive

COProgressive — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 04:02:38 +0000

A sad day for the rule of law. I have nothing against the Telco’s, but giving them immunity before trial is ridiculous. Immunity will keep the question I have from ever being asked and answered. I want to hear the question to the Telco’s, “When you knew that there would be no warrant for the wiretap, under whose authority did the surveillance continue?”

The answer to that question would lead investigators to those in the highest levels of our government who are trampling our liberties and laws.

Are we a nation of laws, or a petty little dictatorship run a petty little dictator?

“If this were a dictatorship, it would be a heck of a lot easier – just so long I’m the dictator.” December 18, 2000 George Bush

“Our government… teaches the whole people by its example. If the government becomes the lawbreaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy.” – Justice Louis Brandeis

By: Brain From Planet Arous

Brain From Planet Arous — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 03:32:49 +0000

These Yes people all have stocks in Verizon or AT&T, and practically all of the Red Companies like Intel, GE, Northrip, Lockheed, ExxonMobil, Wyeth, and Good Year. If We The People actually follow the Constitution, and rightfully sue a company, administration, or individual for 4th Amendment violations, then there is the fear that their stocks will go down. This is the Ultimate Fear of the Corporatist/Globalist.

http://www.bluefund.com/why-blue/blue-companies

Obama’s vote on this will determine his compromising with The Enemy, thus being the enemy, or will he be a true patriot. Anyone who votes Yes is a Traitor. Anyone who votes No is a Patriot.

Another question I have….Is Dumbya sniffing around Pelosi’s…………….Table?

By: leekinny

leekinny — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 03:05:56 +0000

We all have a solution for the future.

Support Cindy Sheehan for Congress rather than Pelosi.

Put your anger and disgust to work!

http://www.cindyforcongress.org/

ka-ching

By: Witch1

Witch1 — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 02:52:07 +0000

Yah Kira I know that….I”m voting green or any one for the constitution….I fell so much better now that I have made a final decesion..Dump all the bad guy’s is my moto and that include;s the one’s saying they are dem and enabeling rep’s…Time to clean out the white house, house and senate..Blessings

By: questioneverything

questioneverything — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 02:30:50 +0000

Maybe the Center for American Progress knows more than I do, but any indication that Obama will support this abomination is abhorrent to me. He better change his tune.

By: djreedps

djreedps — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 02:29:44 +0000

Bush was the greatest threat to our freedom, now it’s Pelosi and Hoyer.

Democrats suck just as much as Republicans.

Dump them all!

By: Kira

Kira — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 02:06:05 +0000

Witch1 – Kucinich was my candidate, too. He has endorsed Obama – I still agree with Kucinich.

By: pbg

pbg — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 01:10:26 +0000

The thing that REALLY make me angry is that they waited on this until the primary race was over.
Had they done this while the primary battle was going on, one side or the other would have jumped on the opponent as cavin to the Republicns. Now that it’s just Barack, well…
I would very much like to see Hiillary speak out on this.

But one thing: for all of you saying there’s no difference between the Democrats and Republicans, that’s crap.
One party had a majority rebel against the leadership, and another voted in lock step.

By: KYJurisDoctor

KYJurisDoctor — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 01:04:52 +0000

Barack Obama’s statement supporting the FISA amendment suggests he is slowly moving to the center, while his Democratic colleagues in the U. S. House and Senate (particularly in the House) demonstrate that they are INCAPABLE of delivering on their promises which got them control of Congress! OsiSpeaks[dot]com

By: abarts

abarts — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 00:56:51 +0000

but..but..Sen Obama is going to be different! Change!

uh huh….

He’d vote “present” if he could still get away with that.

By: Witch1

Witch1 — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 00:29:26 +0000

Look’s like we were together in thought and action’s today Uncle Ho..I also dumped and left remark’s on all the site’s for the dem’s that have been sending me email’s for money….It’s a done deal..By, By to the present big party of criminal’s..Only a few good guy’s left…..Blessings

By: Uncle Ho

Uncle Ho — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 00:07:46 +0000

I just fired off an e-mail to Nancy Pelosi saying that by taking impeachment “off the table”, she is not only protecting war criminals, but aiding and abetting, and even collaborating with them.
I also said that the Democratic party should rename itself the Vichy Party.

By: marlow

marlow — Fri, 20 Jun 2008 23:54:33 +0000

This really is a horrible day, for all Americans. Sad to see our party simply not able to rise to the challenge of the fascist war-pig traitors of the hard right. The Fourth Amendment was really the cornerstone of freedom, which allowed people to go out and exercise their rights of speech and assembly, no matter what side of the aisle, knowing they could not be individually monitored and persecuted (in theory at least). Everyone who truly loves this country and all the blessings of Liberty it promised has lost today. There are simply too many people who feel that it is reasonable to sacrifice that liberty for a promise of safety. The deal is a rip-off. the next strike that happens, the air will be filled with calls for yet more infringement. And so on until nothing is left. Osama could never have done this. I’ll bet he’s laughing his ass off now. Good to see republicans hate facts finding time for pissant little cheap shots as well, as if Hillary had demonstrated her ability to stand firm for the Constitution when it was easier to just go with flow. Good one,RHF.

By: House of Roberts

House of Roberts — Fri, 20 Jun 2008 23:44:54 +0000

So you can be held harmless if the government orders you to break the law? Wasn’t that premise rejected at Nuremburg?

By: Witch1

Witch1 — Fri, 20 Jun 2008 23:40:00 +0000

For the dem’s here that are screaming wait and see and continue with the same status quo of voting for these rotten dem’s let me make it perfectly clear, there is not diffrence in the reich wingers and the lieing dem’s at this point…Only a handfull of good dem’s remain and none are in the race….I’m writing my own rules….I’m for the constitution…..Blessings

By: Witch1

Witch1 — Fri, 20 Jun 2008 23:27:52 +0000

Well that tear’s it, Obama is 3 strike’s your out in my book..First he’s for the continuing war. back’s Israel all the way and now the fisa bill..No way will my vote go there..Remember when I said there wasen’t a dime’s worth of diffrence between him and Hillery…Atleast with her and I wasent for her BTW but with her we would of got a twofer..Her and old Bill..Ha!

I’m gonna go with write in’s and the green party..Kucinich is still my guy…..No more Dem’s except the handful of good one’s…Gonna go be a puppy now, anything I don’t like gonna piss on it…Blessings

By: Kira

Kira — Fri, 20 Jun 2008 23:14:44 +0000

Jumping to conclusions is what’s dumb.

I say – let’s wait and see what happens.

BTW – republicans hate facts – who in their right mind thinks any human is “pristine”?

Oh, yea. I forget — my relatives who thought bush would bring Honor and Dignity to the White House!!! Hahahahah!

By: Kira

Kira — Fri, 20 Jun 2008 22:19:31 +0000

It scares me to death to think that the party of John McCooties/McInsane/McBombers might win this election.

If that happens, we are truly SUNK as a country – and the devastation will be global.

DU is polluting the world as we speak. We’ve GOT to stop this insane bush WAR.