McCain adviser: Another attack on the U.S. ‘would be a big advantage’ for McCain.
McCain adviser: Another attack on the U.S. ‘would be a big advantage’ for McCain.
Earlier this year, after former Pakistani prime minister Benazir Bhutto was tragically assassinated, pundits speculated that the shocking attack may have benefited Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) politically. Now, McCain’s chief strategist, Charlie Black, tells Fortune that the “unfortunate event” of Bhutto’s death “helped us.” Asked if another terrorist attack on U.S. soil would help McCain as well, Black told Fortune that it would be “a big advantage to him“:
The assassination of Benazir Bhutto in December was an “unfortunate event,” says Black. “But his knowledge and ability to talk about it reemphasized that this is the guy who’s ready to be Commander-in-Chief. And it helped us.” As would, Black concedes with startling candor after we raise the issue, another terrorist attack on U.S. soil. “Certainly it would be a big advantage to him,” says Black.
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and so…when are the Republicans arranging another one?
June 23rd, 2008 at 12:18 pmSo, the McChurian candidate wants another 9/11?
How American of you, McShame.
Charlie Black; another high paid lobbyist who’s mission is to perpetuate corporate welfare on an unimagined scale for all eternity.
Nice work, if you have no conscience.
June 23rd, 2008 at 12:20 pmDAMN!! I hate to always have to check under my bed for those bad boogeymen. I’ll just let Johnny Boy and the Repugs do it for me.
June 23rd, 2008 at 12:25 pmThat’s right because dead people don’t matter, Republican control of government is all that matters. After all, how will they cover up all their crimes if they’re out of control. Oh, and thanks Nancy Pelosi.
June 23rd, 2008 at 12:26 pmOh my God… are they planing another 9/11??!!!
June 23rd, 2008 at 12:26 pmAsked if another terrorist attack on U.S. soil would help McCain as well, Black told Fortune that it would be “a big advantage to him“:
Wouldn’t be the first time a Republican had profited off the misfortune of ordinary Americans.
June 23rd, 2008 at 12:26 pmAsked if another terrorist attack on U.S. soil would help McCain as well, Black told Fortune that it would be “a big advantage to him“
Yeah, another attack would really burnish the record of those “protect America” conservatives with which McSame aligns himself, right?
June 23rd, 2008 at 12:28 pmI think bombing Iran will be their next 9/11.
They will time it to give the McChurian candidate a boost, while blaming Obama for being ‘against the global war on terror’.
June 23rd, 2008 at 12:28 pmAsked if another terrorist attack on U.S. soil would help McCain as well, Black told Fortune that it would be “a big advantage to him“
Sounds to me as if Charlie Black is hoping for another attack on Americans.
June 23rd, 2008 at 12:29 pmOkay, someone has got to explain this logic to me.
If the worst terrorist attack happened during a Republican administration, and if another horrible terrorist attack happens during the same Republican tenure, then this benefits a new Republican administration, how exactly?
Ohhhh, that’s right.
June 23rd, 2008 at 12:29 pmBOO!
Scared?
Vote Republican.
(Don’t worry, rogerse(rogerdo). I’ll hold your hand)
Why does McCain’s campaign hate Americans?
June 23rd, 2008 at 12:30 pmThe fix is in.
June 23rd, 2008 at 12:31 pmIs this an October Surprise spoiler alert?
I’m sure that BushCo promised McCain that he would be next in line, if he’d just shut up and march in lockstep with BushCheney. I wouldn’t put it past any of them to “allow” another attack just to make sure the White House stays RED.
And I’m also sure that McCain would do NOTHING to stop such an attack because he (falsely) believes it would guarantee his win.
PEACE
June 23rd, 2008 at 12:31 pmAnother attack on the U.S. ‘would be a big advantage’ for McCain.
– - So….the BIGGER the attack, the better? What if the attack doesn’t come in a physical form, but is a cyber attack or biological? Does this help McCain even more? Black needs to do some polling research.
R.I.P., George Carlin.
June 23rd, 2008 at 12:33 pmThis is their “tax break Logic” if an attack happens it’s good because republicans are tough on terror-if it doesn’t happen it’s good because republicans have scared away the smelly brown people.
June 23rd, 2008 at 12:34 pmOf course another terrorist attack on American soil would benefit McCain, just as 9/11 was the greatest early Christmas present Bush and Cheney ever got.
The only problem McCain would have with it is that it would end the current GOP talking point that since Bush engaged us in “the War On Terror”, we have been safe from terrorist attacks.
June 23rd, 2008 at 12:34 pmdoes anyone else but me find it quite alarming that all these people can so arrogantly and nonchalantly express these views and not be taken to task over it?
I mean it’s pretty damn scary the amount of folks who have mentioned terrorist attacks happening or Bush attacking Iran in the past week. And yet, no alarm bells going off in the MSM.
June 23rd, 2008 at 12:37 pm.
What is with these psychotic phucks that keep wishing America would be attacked…?
REMEMBER:
THEY HATE US FOR OUR FREEDOMS…
Could this be why Charlie Black sees an attack on America as an advantage?
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June 23rd, 2008 at 12:40 pmIt’s more fear-mongering and calls for violence from the im-moral rightwingers…
The only people this tactic will work on are those who were already going to vote for McCain. The rest of us are unflinching.
June 23rd, 2008 at 12:40 pmSpoxLogic Says: And yet, no alarm bells going off in the MSM.
Private celebrations. War is good for their ratings…
June 23rd, 2008 at 12:41 pmI guess my question is why?
We were all here when the first attack happened. We were all hear when all of these decisions were made. Most of us are aware of who made them or, at the very least, most of us blame the President who everyone is aware is a Republican.
The day of people wanting to run to a Republican leader in times of military action is almost completely out the door now. They’ve managed to completely ruin that concept for themselves for what is clearly a majority of the American people.
The simple idea that McCain would win out because of that and his more “hardlined” approach seems pretty ludicrous now. I’m also just taken aback by how candidly some of these people speak of these attacks as if they’re just political tools.
June 23rd, 2008 at 12:43 pmlock_box Says: I bet the Bush administration planed the 9/11 attacks.
Don’t be ridiculous. They aren’t that competent.
June 23rd, 2008 at 12:46 pmI don’t get it. Rupugs have destroyed the constitution to make us safer and say, look we haven’t been attacked. If there is an attack, wouldn’t smart people say, wow, you took all those civil liberties and our privacy away and we were still attacked? Remind me again why we gave them up? Oh, hold on, were talking about smart people who seem to be in diminishing numbers these days.
June 23rd, 2008 at 12:46 pmAll this wishing for terrorist attacks and promising attacks on Iran is elected, isn’t this some form of treason? It does after all try to usurp our normal system of government by threatening us with dire result if we don’t vote for the status quo.
June 23rd, 2008 at 12:46 pmOK lockboy and roger, we get it, the talking point from RNC today is “gotcha question”.
June 23rd, 2008 at 12:49 pmNice….they are praying for more death and destruction on American soil so they have a better chance in the upcoming GE. Doesn’t that want to make anyone want to hop on the GOP bandwagon?
June 23rd, 2008 at 12:54 pmToo bad all of the Beach Boys aren’t alive to record “Bomb, bomb, bomb Iran…
lock_box-
I have a rock that prevents bear attacks… I will sell it to you for $20.00… I know it works because in all the time I have had this rock I have not been attacked by a bear once!
Honestly, when ‘The Simpsons’ knows more about logical fallacies than you do it’s time to lock it up once and for all and throw away the key…
June 23rd, 2008 at 12:55 pmAwwww geez.
June 23rd, 2008 at 12:55 pmlock_box(and hide from the scary big black gay man) and
rogerse(rogerdo) are having a “gotcha question” circle jerk.
Isn’t that special?
#23 rogerse Says:
When your done apologising and supporting Black’s overt anti-American sentiment, he could have said that ANY terrorist attack on America would be an unfortunate thing. He could have said, “What kind of question is that?” But no, rogerse, you see some redeeming quality to Black’s statement.
… Care to parse it for us rogerse?
Who do you support rogerse…
The terrorists or America?
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June 23rd, 2008 at 12:57 pmmisshusseinmolly Says:
The only problem McCain would have with it is that it would end the current GOP talking point that since Bush engaged us in “the War On Terror”, we have been safe from terrorist attacks.
This talking point gets no traction with the American public. The fact that there has not been another attack on U.S. soil is “luck”. No way it is due to anything Bush has done – impossible.
Or, as some have suggested, it is because we haven’t launched another attack on ourselves.
June 23rd, 2008 at 12:57 pmI think the McSame strategy, judging from this and Doug Holtz-Eakin, is to make McSame’s advisers look more senile and incoherent than their candidate.
June 23rd, 2008 at 12:57 pmlock_box(and hide from the big scary gay black man) Says:
The bigger question to this question is: the American people’s lack of confidence in the Democratic Party when it comes to national security.
ummmm, where’s the question?
June 23rd, 2008 at 12:57 pmBox_of_Rocks says:
hy do you think we haven’t had another attack on American soil sense 9/11?
THE ANTHRAX ATTACKS!
But, IOKIYAR, right?
June 23rd, 2008 at 12:58 pmWe all know that republicans aren’t human. They love dead bodies, blood, etc. as long as it keeps them in power.
However, it would no longer be an advantage for Republicans. Polls make it clear this is no longer their strong suit. And with the country knowing they have screwed up everything else this would just be another in a long line of Republican monumental screw ups.
And the reason we haven’t ha another attack on American soil . . . ? Two reasons primarily. Terrorists groups are simply not well organized and not overly bright. Doesn’t mean they can’t do a lot of damage, it just means that coordination is, and has been, overly difficult for them. A standard fact.
The second reason. There is no need to. All that needs be done is to sit back and watch the U.S. destroy itself with the shredding of the constitution and civil war.
But to even suggest that the Keystone Republicans have made us safer is akin to arguing the moon is made of cheese. Terrorism has been around for well BEFORE 9/11 with few attacks in the U.S. It wasn’t U.S. genius that has stopped it. it is for the reasons above.
And finally, let’s not forget that 9/11 occurred WITH the Repugs in charge. They were warned and did nothing.
June 23rd, 2008 at 12:58 pm.
Lock_box @28,
can you say ANTHRAX ATTACKS…?
Lock_box, they should have thrown away the key you lying piece of propagandising sh!t!
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June 23rd, 2008 at 1:00 pmOoooo… and another talking point shot down.
On the matter of whom they trust on these issues, the Democrats are more trusted on the economy buy 48% to 36% and are in a virtual tie with the Republicans on national security, an issue that the Republicans usually win out on, with the Democrats at 44% and the Republicans at 43%.
The War in Iraq is viewed at very important by 62% of the voters and the Democrats are more trusted by 49% to 38%.
We know you’re doing your best, lockjaw. That’s what’s important.
June 23rd, 2008 at 1:00 pmlock_box Says:
Why do you think we haven’t had another attack on American soil sense 9/11?
June 23rd, 2008 at 12:51 pm
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Saudi princes are basking in $130/barrel oil and don’t want to rock the boat just yet.
June 23rd, 2008 at 1:01 pmCareful there, Keltoi… you’re putting your troll credentials in jeopardy.
June 23rd, 2008 at 1:02 pmlock_box Says
June 23rd, 2008 at 12:55 pm
The bigger question to this question is: the American people’s lack of confidence in the Democratic Party when it comes to national security.
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Link, please.
June 23rd, 2008 at 1:03 pmscytherius Says:
And finally, let’s not forget that 9/11 occurred WITH the Repugs in charge. They were warned and did nothing.
That bears repeating, scytherius.
June 23rd, 2008 at 1:03 pmlock_box Says:
Why do you think we haven’t had another attack on American soil sense 9/11?
Yea, that logic applied to Iraq is just like me going to the Doctor with a broken arm and he amputates my leg. But, Hey! I wake up from the surgery and am still alive, so he must have done a good job!
June 23rd, 2008 at 1:04 pmmisshusseinmolly Says:
Link, please.
June 23rd, 2008 at 1:03 pm
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He can’t – it’s just another figment of the conservatroll imagination, like Islamofascism or the liberal media.
June 23rd, 2008 at 1:05 pmMcCain adviser: Another attack on the U.S. ‘would be a big advantage’ for McCain.
Yeah , because nothing says ‘control’ more than an adulterer who can’t keep it in his pants ; except maybe a loser who can’t even keep his plane from smashing into everything………..
June 23rd, 2008 at 1:07 pmlock_box Says: Why would a McCain Adviser say another attack on America would be beneficial to McCain’s campaign?
That’s a very good question, why don’t you tell us…
June 23rd, 2008 at 1:07 pmAre you posing this question as a way of reasserting your false claim about the American people not trusting Democrats on national security, even though I conclusively proved you wrong on that talking point?
June 23rd, 2008 at 1:08 pmlock_box Says:
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The bigger question to this question is: the American people’s lack of confidence in the Democratic Party when it comes to national security.
June 23rd, 2008 at 12:55 pm
Which makes plenty of sense seeing as how the worst attack on US soil , ever , occurred during a Democratic administration presidency and majority controlled Congress , right ?
June 23rd, 2008 at 1:10 pmAh… “islamofascism”… I kinda miss that phrase. It was so ripe with all of the absurdity and fantasy that seems to sustain the wingnut wordlview… calling Obama a communist just doesn’t have the same panache.
June 23rd, 2008 at 1:11 pmI always read with interest the angle of Bush doing well because we haven’t been attacked since 9/11. Since Bush probably ordered the hit on the WTC and Pentagon, I won’t waste time discussing these places (remember the neocons problem? They needed another ‘Pearl Harbor Moment’ to push their agenda on a frightened public).
The lack of another attack is a specious arguement because we have been attacked since we invaded their soverign territory. Over 4000 of our brave soldiers have been attacked and they are being attacked everyday. OBL’s fighters are getting better trained, better skilled, and killing more of our brave citizens than if they attempted to hit our mainland. Anytime one of our less than patriotic posters mention ‘no attack’, please ask them to recite the number of dead and wounded Americans since we illegally invaded Iraq and Afghanistan.
June 23rd, 2008 at 1:11 pmralph the wonder llama Says:
Careful there, Keltoi… you’re putting your troll credentials in jeopardy.
Impossible.
I sense you are spoiling for a fight this morning, my ungulate McFriend.
Or as Monty Python would say,
“Hullo! I am here for an argument.”
“No you’re not.”
June 23rd, 2008 at 1:12 pmlock_box Says:
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Zimzone Says:
Why hasn’t there been an attack on American Soil Sense 9/2001?
June 23rd, 2008 at 1:08 pm
Because one need not travel 3,000 miles or more to cripple the might of the US military ; they are right in someone elses backyard (where they simply do not belong) , open to potshots , you simp……
BTW
Why risk your own life when you have the absolute morons in this garbage administration removing all those so-called “freedoms” they hate us for , with the help of spineless , brainless Dems to further assist them ?
June 23rd, 2008 at 1:14 pmBut his knowledge and ability to talk about it reemphasized that this is the guy who’s ready to be Commander-in-Chief.
Can’t these people find a way to make money off of peace ?
June 23rd, 2008 at 1:15 pmWait, I almost forgot, they war for peace, they-they bomb for peace, yeah, that’s it, how stupid of me.
Charlie sounded almost gleeful about the prospects of another 9/11 didn’t he? McCain the great American would be glad to have 3000 Americans killed if it meant he’d get to be president? Gag. What despicable people. That is the most disgusting gaff I ever heard and if the media don’t play that at least as often as they played Jeremiah Wright, we’ll know who’s paying them. What an appallingly repugnant thing to say.
June 23rd, 2008 at 1:17 pm“Is this the right thread for an argument?”
“I’ve told you once.”
June 23rd, 2008 at 1:19 pmOne would think with the millions Charlie black is worth he’d at least take time out in his busy life, to get his teeth cleaned!
June 23rd, 2008 at 1:20 pmHis sewer-laden mouth has teeth that look like dirty worn-out keys on a piano; dark,dingy black coming out of the gums, and a chicken-sh*t,off-base white color, for the tops?
The assassination of Benazir Bhutto in December was an “unfortunate event,” says Black. “But his knowledge and ability to talk about it reemphasized that this is the guy who’s ready to be Commander-in-Chief. And it helped us.”
How come no one has the balls to ask anyone who makes this type of asinine statement why , if McWindbag has so much knowledge and ability as his backers claim , why he was such a horrible student with a very low IQ and an even worse pilot ?
June 23rd, 2008 at 1:20 pmlock_box Says:
Zimzone Says:
Why hasn’t there been an attack on American Soil Sense 9/2001?
Actually, a very serious question. There are many theories. In no particular order:
1. Cheney hasn’t ordered another one because 9/11 fit the bill. Absurd, but many believe it.
2. AQ has actually been damaged by aggressive US military action in Afghanistan and Black Ops in Waziristan. BTW, you can tell a lot about your place on the political spectrum by which of #’s 1 or 2 you find more outlandish.
3. AQ is patient and is looking for a home run as opposed to a set of singles. Ergo, only a WMD style attack will satisfy them, so they are taking their time, running silent, running deep. Frighteningly, this option has lots of logic behind it.
4. AQ realizes 9/11 was the biggest mistake they ever made and the high command is ordering no new attacks because they don’t like living in caves full time.
The truth is, it would be pretty damn simple to launch all kinds of attacks in the US, and yet they haven’t. Remember the DC sniper a few years back? That was two loser psychos in a modified sedan. Give me 50 two man teams so equipped and you could shut this country down. But they don’t do it. Why?
June 23rd, 2008 at 1:21 pmKlem Kiddilehopper Says:
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One would think with the millions Charlie black is worth he’d at least take time out in his busy life, to get his teeth cleaned!
His sewer-laden mouth has teeth that look like dirty worn-out keys on a piano; dark,dingy black coming out of the gums, and a chicken-sh*t,off-base white color, for the tops?
June 23rd, 2008 at 1:20 pm
How clean can teeth actually be , when the person’s constantly spewing stupid shit ?
June 23rd, 2008 at 1:22 pmlock_box Says:
Why hasn’t there been an attack on American Soil Sense 9/2001?
June 23rd, 2008 at 1:08 pm
May 2002: Luke Helder injures 6 by placing pipebombs in mailboxes in the Midwest. Motivation to protest government control over daily lives and the illegality of marijuana and promotion of astral projection
June 23rd, 2008 at 1:22 pmJuly 4, 2002: An Egyptian gunman opens fire at an El Al ticket counter in Los Angeles International Airport, killing two Israelis before being killed himself.
October 2002: John Allen Muhammad and Lee Boyd Malvo conduct the Beltway Sniper Attacks, killing ten people in various locations throughout the Baltimore-Washington Metropolitan Area from October 2 until they are arrested on October 24.
May 5, 2005: Two grenades thrown at the British Consulate in New York
March 3, 2006: Mohammed Reza Taheri-azar, an Iranian-born graduate of the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, drives an SUV onto a crowded part of campus, injuring nine.
August 30, 2006: An Afghani Muslim hit 19 pedestrians, killing one, with his SUV in the San Francisco Bay area.
April 16, 2007: Seung-Hui Cho kills 33 people, including himself, in the Virginia Tech massacre, the worst civilian shooting spree in United States history and the worst case of mass murder in the United States since 9/11.
October 25, 2007: A pair of improvised explosive devices are thrown at the Mexican Consulate in New York City. The fake grenades were filled with black powder and detonated by fuses, causing very minor damage. Police investigate the connection between this and a similar attack against the British Consulate in New York in 2005.
February 7, 2008: Kirkwood, Missouri. A gunman storms into city hall, killing six people before being shot and killed by police.
February 14, 2008: DeKalb, Illinois. A gunman shoots 23 people in a specific sector of an Oceanography class, killing 5, at Northern Illinois University, before killing himself.
MCMetal Says:
The assassination of Benazir Bhutto in December was an “unfortunate event,” says Black. “But his knowledge and ability to talk about it reemphasized that this is the guy who’s ready to be Commander-in-Chief. And it helped us.”
How come no one has the balls to ask anyone who makes this type of asinine statement why , if McWindbag has so much knowledge and ability as his backers claim , why he was such a horrible student with a very low IQ and an even worse pilot ?
This seems to be the requirements for the Repug CiC candidates lately!
June 23rd, 2008 at 1:23 pmrogerse Says:
He was making a point, then the interviewer brought up the question of another terrorist attack.what was he supposed to say to a Gotcha-question?.
How about: “We have no wish to win the presidency under those conditions. We believe our candidate has the qualifications to lead our country domestically and in foreign affairs without contemplating how some tragedy to our country might help his candidacy or hurt it.”
June 23rd, 2008 at 1:25 pmKeltoi Says:
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lock_box Says:
Zimzone Says:
Why hasn’t there been an attack on American Soil Sense 9/2001?
Actually, a very serious question. There are many theories. In no particular order:
1. Cheney hasn’t ordered another one because 9/11 fit the bill. Absurd, but many believe it.
June 23rd, 2008 at 1:21 pm
You believe a jackass who is willing to out a CIA agent over retribution , shoot a friend in the face while out hunting and attempt to have it completely covered up , meet with oil executives to set national energy policy , and is the most secretive non-elected official in US history is incapable of more acts against his fellow countrymen ?
Wow , you truly are gullible and stupid…………
June 23rd, 2008 at 1:28 pmPatrioticLiberalChristian,
See, rogerse sees some redeeming quality to attacking America…
Because he sees terrorist activities against America as something that merits a defense…
… eh rogerse?
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June 23rd, 2008 at 1:29 pmRight wingers are so easily frightened, being the ignorant cowards that they are.
June 23rd, 2008 at 1:30 pmI wasn’t talking to you I was talking about you.
June 23rd, 2008 at 1:32 pmHow to respond to a “gotcha” question:
What the f***. You’re kidding me right!?”
In this case, the guy could’ve just said, “I strongly doubt it”.
June 23rd, 2008 at 1:32 pmI think that would’ve pretty much said it all. Yet he went out on a limb to actually say “YES”. If this was a “gotcha” question, then Charlie Black is an idiot for answering in the affirmative.
lock_box Says:
Zimzone Says:
Why hasn’t there been an attack on American Soil Sense 9/2001?
June 23rd, 2008 at 1:08 pm
Why attack the USA when you have hundreds of thousands of soldiers in neighboring areas that you can kill everyday and turn the public sentiment in those areas against them with relative ease. Face it, by invading Iraq, Bush & Co. used our own soldiers as lambs for pure greed. And of course if we are attacked before the election it would benefit McCain, that’s a Karl Rove tactic; take the truth and reverse it.
June 23rd, 2008 at 1:32 pmMCMetal Says:
You believe a jackass who is willing to out a CIA agent over retribution , shoot a friend in the face while out hunting and attempt to have it completely covered up , meet with oil executives to set national energy policy , and is the most secretive non-elected official in US history is incapable of more acts against his fellow countrymen ?
June 23rd, 2008 at 1:28 pm
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Judging by the sheer incompetence of this administration in accomplishing even basic governmental tasks, I find it highly unlikely that Bushco could have actually orchestrated and perpetrated the 9/11 attacks.
June 23rd, 2008 at 1:35 pmPLC,
Ahhhhh, the gotcha “gotcha” response!
Gotcha!
We wait and see if rogerse(rogerdo) head explodes under too many “gotchas”.
June 23rd, 2008 at 1:37 pmWhat I find deplorable is the fact that he is pimping the memories of the victims of 9/11 for political gain.
Ohhh, wait. That’s the standard ROP (Republican Operating Procedure) since 9/12/2001.
My bad.
June 23rd, 2008 at 1:39 pmhussein toasterhead Says:
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MCMetal Says:
You believe a jackass who is willing to out a CIA agent over retribution , shoot a friend in the face while out hunting and attempt to have it completely covered up , meet with oil executives to set national energy policy , and is the most secretive non-elected official in US history is incapable of more acts against his fellow countrymen ?
June 23rd, 2008 at 1:28 pm
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Judging by the sheer incompetence of this administration in accomplishing even basic governmental tasks, I find it highly unlikely that Bushco could have actually orchestrated and perpetrated the 9/11 attacks.
June 23rd, 2008 at 1:35 pm
I don’t recall mentioning the Chimpy administration……….
Simply Dick(head) Cheney ; nor did I specifically state that he was indeed behind 9/11.
I’m merely pointing out Kelt Boy’s continued ignorance and stupidity and (typically) false statements ; he wants to question conspiracy theorists and view them with a certain disdain , that he doesn’t even possess for the worst president and administration in US history , that he himself at one time backed blindly , stupidly and without question.
June 23rd, 2008 at 1:40 pmKeltoi Says:
lock_box Says:
Zimzone Says:
Why hasn’t there been an attack on American Soil Sense 9/2001?
Actually, a very serious question. There are many theories. In no particular order:
You forgot No. 5: The US has conveniently located masses of Americans in the Middle East, where they are much easier to kill, and the killers don’t need to stay in a Holiday Inn.
June 23rd, 2008 at 1:42 pmgummitch Says:
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Keltoi Says:
lock_box Says:
Zimzone Says:
Why hasn’t there been an attack on American Soil Sense 9/2001?
Actually, a very serious question. There are many theories. In no particular order:
You forgot No. 5: The US has conveniently located masses of Americans in the Middle East, where they are much easier to kill, and the killers don’t need to stay in a Holiday Inn.
“Are you a secret member of the Mossad?”
“No, but I did stay at a Holiay Inn last night.”
June 23rd, 2008 at 1:44 pmgummitch Says:
You forgot No. 5: The US has conveniently located masses of Americans in the Middle East, where they are much easier to kill, and the killers don’t need to stay in a Holiday Inn.
The problem with this assessment, Gummitch, is that it supports the idea of fighting them there so we don’t have to fight them here…..
June 23rd, 2008 at 1:45 pmKeltoi Says:
gummitch Says:
You forgot No. 5: The US has conveniently located masses of Americans in the Middle East, where they are much easier to kill, and the killers don’t need to stay in a Holiday Inn.
The problem with this assessment, Gummitch, is that it supports the idea of fighting them there so we don’t have to fight them here…..
Not at all, because the corollary is that the very presence of US troops in Muslim/Arab lands increases the production of killers. And simply feeding them cannon fodder is not only unfair to our military personnel, but is destroying combat readiness.
June 23rd, 2008 at 1:48 pm“Islamic extremism”? “Islamic extremism”?
Now where have I heard that phrase before? Who keeps bringing it up?
Oh, that right – GI never served JOE Lieberman!!!!
June 23rd, 2008 at 1:53 pmbarackocarter Says:
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Historically, having a Democrat in the White House has not resulted in peace.
WWI – entered during Democratic party administration.
WWII – entered during Democratic party administration.
Korea – entered during Democratic party administration.
Viet Nam – entered during Democratic party administration.
But hey, with all of Barack O’Carter’s military experience, he’d make a great Commander in Chief.
June 23rd, 2008 at 1:47 pm
Yeah , but we won both World Wars behind Democratic presidents.
But your grasp on history is about as accurate as Chimpy’s public speaking ability.
The US went into Vietnam originally under a GOP president , genius ; it escalated under a Dem one……..
June 23rd, 2008 at 1:54 pmbarackocarter Says:
Historically, having a Democrat in the White House has not resulted in peace.
WWI – entered during Democratic party administration.
WWII – entered during Democratic party administration.
Korea – entered during Democratic party administration.
Viet Nam – entered during Democratic party administration.
But hey, with all of Barack O’Carter’s military experience, he’d make a great Commander in Chief.
But, Hey, no one ever said YOU would make a great CiC, so what’s the point?
And Dubya’s lack of experience sure hasn’t stopped him from starting an ego/oil war, has it?
June 23rd, 2008 at 1:54 pmbarackocarter Says:
But hey, with all of Barack O’Carter’s military experience, he’d make a great Commander in Chief.
Bush’s “military experience” came from flying around Alabama and Cheney? Ooops. Avoided service during the Vietnam War? Multiple deferments? That really isn’t anywhere Republicans want to go, given the astronomical percentage of chickenhawks in the administration.
June 23rd, 2008 at 1:57 pmgummitch Says:
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Keltoi Says:
gummitch Says:
You forgot No. 5: The US has conveniently located masses of Americans in the Middle East, where they are much easier to kill, and the killers don’t need to stay in a Holiday Inn.
The problem with this assessment, Gummitch, is that it supports the idea of fighting them there so we don’t have to fight them here…..
Not at all, because the corollary is that the very presence of US troops in Muslim/Arab lands increases the production of killers. And simply feeding them cannon fodder is not only unfair to our military personnel, but is destroying combat readiness.
I would hardly call the Army and Marines cannon fodder.
There is no doubt our troops have become Jihadi magnets. It is a legitimate question to ask what those Jihadis would be doing were our troops not there. No doubt we have radicalized some…I think it is also true we have killed many that were already radical and would have instead been looking to attack us here. Sadly, it is totally unknowable which it is for sure or to what degree.
June 23rd, 2008 at 1:57 pmCollectively speaking, Repugs have become insane. Eight years of defending Bush, lying for him, and squelching every worthwhile Democratic proposal have paralyzed their brains, and put them into perpetual warlike mind-set. Look for them all to start painting their faces and carrying lances to Congress. I have never seen so many Repugs make complete a$$holes of themselves with their blood lust, warmongering, self-centered partisanship regarding everything under the sun.
June 23rd, 2008 at 2:07 pmLet’s make something perfectly clear here.
Zimzone Says:
Why hasn’t there been an attack on American Soil Sense 9/2001?
I DID NOT post that comment. That’s ‘lock em up’s’ response to a post of mine.
Furthermore, I have the ’sense’ to not use the word ’sense’ in place of ’since’…that’s Troll gobbleygook they call speech.
Thank you, posters, for your understanding. If I wanted to be a Troll, however, I would have to…
June 23rd, 2008 at 2:08 pm-Give up a job I love
-Be willing to lie for pennies
-Eliminate my conscience forever
-Support the 21st century’s biggest liars & crooks
-Speak & write like a grade schooler
-Smell like bad tuna
Considering the majority of the 9/11 attackers were of Saudi origin (run by Bush buddies) and further considering Osama Bin Laden’s deep ties to the Bush family (Arbusto bail out/Bush secrets Bin Laden family out of US after 9/11) I’d guess there may be a warped form of a gentleman’s pact (we won’t find/kill you, Bin Laden & no more attacky, ok?)
June 23rd, 2008 at 2:19 pmI bet BinLaden and the neocons are already together planning 9/11 part 2, coming soon before the election
June 23rd, 2008 at 2:28 pmHas anyone heard of a FALSE FLAG ATTACK??? When ellements of a country or government stage an attack on there own country and then use the attack as a tool to accomplish there goals.
Please watch http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com ….The media is not allowed to discuss the contents of this movie….Please watch and tell me if you ever vote republican again??????
False flag attack from Iran…will be the excuse this time. Can’t you hear the war drums beating!!!
June 23rd, 2008 at 2:29 pmA simple call to Saudi Arabia, and the plan is in motion. Two weeks before General…president will have to postpone elections. Until the rest of government wakes up (Dems), we will live in fear.
June 23rd, 2008 at 2:33 pmIs the new troll name suggesting that a Republican president would have appeased the Japanese after Pearl Harbor?
June 23rd, 2008 at 2:38 pmIf you think 9/11 wasn’t a false flag attack please answer one question and I will retract any comments I made with respect to our governments…..How can a building 110 stories, fall at free fall speed??? It’s impossible unless the building is assisted in it’s collapes…ie demolishion!!! Never in the history of construction has a building fallen at free fall speed without assistance. Expain that question????
One more question….why did’t the 9/11 commission ask the NY Port Authority why they removed bomb sniffing dogs and security details two weeks before 9/11 ???? anyone,,anyone….????
June 23rd, 2008 at 2:42 pmSomeone should run a betting line or lottery on what the Far Reich Wingers will do to undermine this election — how and when the threats, attack, retaliation will come to best affect the emotions of the electorate. Their objective is to generate the twin reptilian reactions they depend on to keep voters from considering things logically. Don’t call them Red America. The colors they want are White Hot Hatred and Yellow Fear.
June 23rd, 2008 at 2:48 pmThe Republican President had warnings three days prior to Pear Harbor from the Austrailian government for which the President did not repeat DID NOT notify the Pacific fleet…what better way to get involed in the war by allowing our enemies to attack….now we need to go to war!!! This is factual information…look it up. Why didn’t Bush notify FAA when he recieved the FBI report of a possible attack. The rich make money when a country goes to war!!!
June 23rd, 2008 at 2:48 pmExcellent. Bring it on. Mission accomplished.
Isn’t this verging on treasonous? I though Republicans were more virtuous, patriotic, godly, clean, etc., than Democrats? Doesn’t wishing our country be attacked so your candidate can have an upper hand, seem a little wrong?
June 23rd, 2008 at 2:52 pmOf course Charlie Black wants a war with Iran. He has to keep his lobbying companying afloat somehow:
http://www.motherjones.com/mojoblog/archives/2008/02/7302_charlie_black_j.html
June 23rd, 2008 at 2:54 pmSo, if there is no terrorist attack between now & November, that means the terrorists want Obama. And, if they do attack us, that’s vote for McCain. And as Bush says, we must listen to bin Laden instead of to American citizens….
June 23rd, 2008 at 3:04 pmThe last big attack was staged
Jason Bermas, Alex Jones and Mark Dice discuss Barry Jennings’ (New York City Housing Authority worker) on film revelation that he witnessed explosions and dead bodies in WTC7 before WTC1 or WTC2 collapsed
June 23rd, 2008 at 3:08 pmNo, it’s God’s truth AND UBER-PATRIOTIC, 100 BECAUSE only the truth flows out the mouths of virtuous Republicans like a paean to the heavens…Whenever Democrats speak, a kitten dies…
just ask Daryll, LMAO…
June 23rd, 2008 at 3:10 pmand speaking of BFFs, let us not forget McCain’s other best buddy, the embezzling AhMAD Chalabi and his $97 mil oil ministering, Bilderberg Conference attending self.
June 23rd, 2008 at 3:23 pmIf politicians of all parties thought more about principles over demographics they might be less apt to making such asinine remarks and we might actually get somewhere.
http://progressiveworldreview.com
June 23rd, 2008 at 3:26 pmObama has to explain his father’s religion until he’s blue and yet McCain’s friends, be they Shi’a or not, can get away with rob us blind.
June 23rd, 2008 at 3:26 pmrobbing..
June 23rd, 2008 at 3:27 pmI dunno, Charlie Black sounds like another warmongering, disaster capitalist to me, what do you guys think?
June 23rd, 2008 at 3:35 pmNOLIESPLEASE Says:
If you think 9/11 wasn’t a false flag attack please answer one question and I will retract any comments I made with respect to our governments…..How can a building 110 stories, fall at free fall speed??? It’s impossible unless the building is assisted in it’s collapes…ie demolishion!!! Never in the history of construction has a building fallen at free fall speed without assistance. Expain that question????
One more question….why did’t the 9/11 commission ask the NY Port Authority why they removed bomb sniffing dogs and security details two weeks before 9/11 ???? anyone,,anyone….????
June 23rd, 2008 at 2:42 pm
Two huge airplanes were loaded with jet fuel for cross-country flights. That fuel…after those jets crashed into the towers…burned at the main structural supports located in the middle of both of the towers. The crash itself weakened the entire structure of both buildings by a significant margin, the added weight of hundreds of thousands of lbs. and the jet fuel basically melting the supports led to the collapse because of some things called gravity and physics.
I know for someone like you, the logical and most scientific answers don’t resonate because you want to believe that Bush is Dr. Doom, Cheney is Darkseid and reality needs to be convoluted beyond every reason for it to be true. Bring us more than one guy who “claims” that he saw the bottom of the tower he came out of explode, who could have very well convinced himself he saw that after the fact and disprove all scientific reason. If you think that the towers weren’t a ticking clock after the equivalent of two flying wrecking balls went into them, you and those who think like you need to be slapped around more by the likes of Bill Maher about your flippin’ retarded beliefs.
June 23rd, 2008 at 4:47 pmYou, sectionop92, know as much about physics as my daughter’s 10 month old terrier.
June 23rd, 2008 at 6:14 pmlock_box Says:
hussein toasterhead Says:
In 2005 an African descendant name Tron in Kosciusko, Ms Set up a trip line at an elderly care center tripping 20 elderly people!
What kind of national terrorist organizations were all your sited attacks done on behalf of?
June 23rd, 2008 at 1:59 pm
Can anyone explain why this comment has not been removed? While you are at it, remove this comment as well.
June 23rd, 2008 at 6:24 pm#110 sectionop92 — bullsh!t. If you believe what you just typed, you are ignorant & only read cover-up propaganda. Are you a JREFer?
One place you can visit for an education is Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth.
http://www.ae911truth.org
June 23rd, 2008 at 8:32 pm>Give me 50 two man teams so equipped
> and you could shut this country down.
>But they don’t do it. Why?
Did the possibility that there ARENT 100 people with both the desire AND ABILITY to coordinate their actions and come here and attack us cross your mind?
Moron.
Please list me ever single REALISTIC plot underway by muslim extremists to attack american soil that bush has stoppped since 9-11? Puhleese dont say Padilla because the man wasnt convicted of anything resembling a plot or conspriacy.
He was convicted of “aiding” terrorists based on the fact he had a few friendly phone conversations with some extremist sypathizers
Oh wait, there was the truck driver who was going to cut the brooklyn bridge with a blowtorch. hahaha
hahahah
June 23rd, 2008 at 10:51 pmKira and all the other conspiracy ideologues
Have you ever heard of Newton’s Laws of Motion? Or are those a bit to dull for you and your ilk’s need for a romantic and convoluted conspiracy where you and your kind need a dynamic plot to stoke the flames of your paranoia? It’s sad that science tells you all you need to know about how the towers fell, but you can’t accept that because you try to tie a few random, unanswered questions and what people under extreme stress in the situation say they saw, but have no proof to back it up. Nevermind that those unanswered questions and people are binded together to become the heralds of a grand, evil and outrageous conspiracy that threatens the world, that only can be spread through the internet and “dubious” sources, i.e. already known conspiracy, UFO and other like minded individuals who thrive on public access channels throughout the nation.
Just get over this notion that you and your other “conspiracy” friends are championing some great cause. You are all just like people in a small community who get caught up in a high profile murder trial: You’re trying to tie yourselves and your lives to this event because your lives were relatively meaningless before and will be well after as well. But with this you think you know more than everyone else and have married yourself to this cause, because how can you be wrong when you link your propaganda to other videos and search queries that have nothing to do with this subject on YouTube and other sites? You loons deserve to be bashed because your thought processes want a harlequin romance with a superhero comic book veneer to match your obsession with the grassy knoll, Loch Ness and Bigfoot.
Why listen to science, math and engineering professors when you can go trolling for like-minded individuals who think the Army Corps of Engineers, disguised as office workers and janitors, checked every fiber of their being at the door for two weeks to lay explosives all around the WTC? Yeah, it wasn’t like we were attacked before at the WTC. Maybe that was just a SEAL team who f’ed up, right?! Our enemies sure haven’t wanted to destroy the economic symbols of the west, because it is the world economy which is considered to be a harbinger of death for the Muslim world for these terrorist groups.
June 23rd, 2008 at 11:38 pmMcLame, controlled by the Senator from Tel Aviv, will either have to get a shovel, dig up bin Laden and somehow reanimate him or the CIA/Mossad/M16/ISI will have to find another boogey man. Be careful with that short selling of put options though. That one probably won’t fly this time around Mr. K.
June 24th, 2008 at 4:05 am“McLame, controlled by the Senator from Tel Aviv, will either have to get a shovel, dig up bin Laden and somehow reanimate him or the CIA/Mossad/M16/ISI will have to find another boogey man. Be careful with that short selling of put options though. That one probably won’t fly this time around Mr. K.”
June 24th, 2008 at 8:39 amXackly…….
That’s why I left the US of Israel.
All of the nutjobs running your Empire beleive the holohoax and the story of the chosen ( self chosen)
“Our greatest ally” What wars have they fought beside us ??
Zero. A bunch of idiots living life on a fairy tale………Just the way they planned it long, long, ago…….
Nobody there to stand up to them.
“OOOOOOOOO Britney doesn’t wear panties..heheheheh”
Idiots.
Enjoy your demise.
sectionop92 #115
First of all, you do understand you, yourself, are a conspiracy theorist, don’t you?
As for your long diatribe, you have provided nothing that proves or disproves anything.
There is no way 3 buildings would fall exactly into their own footprints the way the WTC buildings did — otherwise why would we ever need demolition companies again?
I pointed you to a link put together by Architects and Engineers. You really should take a look.
June 24th, 2008 at 11:36 amKira Says:
sectionop92 #115
First of all, you do understand you, yourself, are a conspiracy theorist, don’t you?
No, I believe in reality and science. You and your lemmings believe that some form of our government has turned into Cobra. You jump at shadows created by delusions of what you think is there, because you can’t deal with the simple reality of the answers.
As for your long diatribe, you have provided nothing that proves or disproves anything.
Damn science! Damn professors who don’t support your lunatic musings! That’s the problem with your type…a professional can walk you through all the answers, but as long as they aren’t the answers your group covets, they aren’t acceptable and are a part of the lie. Which makes it all a part of the conspiracy. You and your like-minded buddies will be at this for the next 20 years with the same non-answers, because your idea of reality is non-conformist and illogical.
There is no way 3 buildings would fall exactly into their own footprints the way the WTC buildings did — otherwise why would we ever need demolition companies again?
Yeah, they just didn’t topple from the top on down and pile on a huge complex, with those complexes having massive underground parking and other such things that created a crater. With all the media on the scene, broadcasting LIVE, don’t you think explosions at the base would have been seen? Especially when there’s a documentary that shows firefighters on the ground floor of one of the buildings when one of the towers collapses?
Do you also know what it takes to demolish just a large, empty building, stadium? To cause am implosion, the demolition teams need to put the explosives on the exposed struts and supports themselves all around the building. And even then, they have to have supreme knowledge in mathematics to know how to bring the given structure down with the right effect. The big problem with your people’s “theories” is that you suppose the jets were cruise missiles and that was the key to all of it. If anything, that would screw up a demolition instead of helping it. Explosives can be very sensitive, so having big jets ram themselves into two buildings could have very well set off a premature detonation since the best way to achieve it is to put the explosives directly on the supports. Plus demolitions takes a huge amount of explosives to begin with, so it isn’t like a team could take control of a small area of any of the towers and bring them down at the base. So you and your buds might want to rethink that. Since the WTC was under mass evacuation, how would your “experts” keep the explosives from being noticed? It’s not like explosives don’t make a sound, unless those flashes and bangs I see in all demolitions are just a fantasy of mine. When you get down to it, your groups “argument” has plenty of holes that can’t be dismissed unless you think this is the closest to a “flawless” argument that your “conspiracy” can get.
I pointed you to a link put together by Architects and Engineers. You really should take a look.
I don’t look at slanted, B.S. non-sense by skewed individuals…I’ve seen enough of your groups crap on YouTube already. I do however welcome the day you get some help from a medical professional, where you come down off your “my conspiracy is better than your science and facts” cross.
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June 24th, 2008 at 4:09 pmWow – you might need to take a sedative, Mark.
June 24th, 2008 at 4:20 pmAh, I see you’re singing “I got you under my skin”.
Epic.
June 24th, 2008 at 4:38 pmIs it true, that there is not a shred of physical evidence linking al Qaeda to the 911 Pentagon attack?
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