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	<title>Comments on: White House Shoots Down Army&#8217;s Effort To Increase Oversight Of Defense Contractors</title>
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		<title>By: Pernell</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/06/23/waste-army-proposal/comment-page-1/#comment-5042072</link>
		<dc:creator>Pernell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 21:03:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Conservative&#039;s OMB = MUADHA

&lt;strong&gt;&quot;Money Up A Dead Hog&#039;s Ass&quot;&lt;/strong&gt;

video report on MUADHA

http://www.thedossier.ukonline.co.uk/video_iraqwar.htm

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;strong&gt;BBC Panorama - Daylight Robbery: What Happened to the $23billion?&lt;/strong&gt;

Jane Corbin investigates claims that as much as $23bn may have been lost, stolen or not properly accounted for in Iraq. Now more than 70 whistleblower cases threaten to reveal the scandals behind billions of dollars worth of waste, theft and corruption during the war. The US justice department has imposed gagging orders which prevent the real scale of the problem emerging &lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Conservative&#8217;s OMB = MUADHA</p>
<p><strong>&#8220;Money Up A Dead Hog&#8217;s Ass&#8221;</strong></p>
<p>video report on MUADHA</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thedossier.ukonline.co.uk/video_iraqwar.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.thedossier.ukonline.co.uk/video_iraqwar.htm</a></p>
<blockquote><p><strong>BBC Panorama &#8211; Daylight Robbery: What Happened to the $23billion?</strong></p>
<p>Jane Corbin investigates claims that as much as $23bn may have been lost, stolen or not properly accounted for in Iraq. Now more than 70 whistleblower cases threaten to reveal the scandals behind billions of dollars worth of waste, theft and corruption during the war. The US justice department has imposed gagging orders which prevent the real scale of the problem emerging </p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: ucsbclassics53</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/06/23/waste-army-proposal/comment-page-1/#comment-5041618</link>
		<dc:creator>ucsbclassics53</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 19:12:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wait, no trolls to say how this is efficient government at play here? No trolls to say how defense contractors stealing billions of our taxpayer dollars is not a waste, but Social Security or our schools are?

I AM SHOCKED I tell you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wait, no trolls to say how this is efficient government at play here? No trolls to say how defense contractors stealing billions of our taxpayer dollars is not a waste, but Social Security or our schools are?</p>
<p>I AM SHOCKED I tell you!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5041618', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: trollsbwild</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/06/23/waste-army-proposal/comment-page-1/#comment-5041018</link>
		<dc:creator>trollsbwild</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 16:57:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;SHHH!&lt;/you&#039;ll destroy the gravy train.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong><em>SHHH!&lt;/you&#8217;ll destroy the gravy train.</em></strong><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5041018', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: helenahandbasket</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/06/23/waste-army-proposal/comment-page-1/#comment-5041002</link>
		<dc:creator>helenahandbasket</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 16:54:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bush&#039;s O.M.B. =

Office of Maintaining Bullsh@t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bush&#8217;s O.M.B. =</p>
<p>Office of Maintaining Bullsh@t.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5041002', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Shayne</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/06/23/waste-army-proposal/comment-page-1/#comment-5040960</link>
		<dc:creator>Shayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 16:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For all we know there could be marching in the streets against this administration every day.  Would the media tell us if there was a rebellion going on?  They don&#039;t even show us the coffins of dead soldiers we know exist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For all we know there could be marching in the streets against this administration every day.  Would the media tell us if there was a rebellion going on?  They don&#8217;t even show us the coffins of dead soldiers we know exist.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5040960', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: alphainfinityomega</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/06/23/waste-army-proposal/comment-page-1/#comment-5040934</link>
		<dc:creator>alphainfinityomega</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 16:32:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Caption:
&lt;em&gt;&quot;Look away from my cod-piece, young man, yonder is the Mission Accomplished sign.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;_AIO_&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Caption:<br />
<em>&#8220;Look away from my cod-piece, young man, yonder is the Mission Accomplished sign.&#8221;</em></p>
<p><strong>_AIO_</strong><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5040934', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Shayne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 16:29:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, it&#039;s only money and at least it isn&#039;t going to hungry kidsd or national healthcare because that would be wasteful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, it&#8217;s only money and at least it isn&#8217;t going to hungry kidsd or national healthcare because that would be wasteful.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5040914', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: misshusseinmolly</title>
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		<dc:creator>misshusseinmolly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 16:25:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm...I think I can understand why the Army wants some oversight of contractors.  They are probably tired of their soldiers getting electrocuted in the shower, or getting sick from having to bathe and launder their clothing with contaminated water.

But why would the White House have any objections to making sure that our contractors demonstrate some compentence?  Oh right -- it would cut into their profit margin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm&#8230;I think I can understand why the Army wants some oversight of contractors.  They are probably tired of their soldiers getting electrocuted in the shower, or getting sick from having to bathe and launder their clothing with contaminated water.</p>
<p>But why would the White House have any objections to making sure that our contractors demonstrate some compentence?  Oh right &#8212; it would cut into their profit margin.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5040888', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: MapleStreet</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/06/23/waste-army-proposal/comment-page-1/#comment-5040876</link>
		<dc:creator>MapleStreet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 16:20:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dumb Question:  Why would the &quot;Accountability President&quot; object to auditing controls ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dumb Question:  Why would the &#8220;Accountability President&#8221; object to auditing controls ?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5040876', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Zimzone</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/06/23/waste-army-proposal/comment-page-1/#comment-5040856</link>
		<dc:creator>Zimzone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 16:15:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Caption:
&lt;em&gt;&#039;If I were a real pilot, I&#039;d take off at the end of this carrier, right over there&#039;.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Caption:<br />
<em>&#8216;If I were a real pilot, I&#8217;d take off at the end of this carrier, right over there&#8217;.</em><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5040856', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: gitrdone</title>
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		<dc:creator>gitrdone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 16:15:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whats a few billion dollars here and there for Bush&#039;s buddies, when the country is already trillions in debt? Americans are not paying attention to the publics finance, so why not plunder it while their not looking? Their busy being distracted by the latest news on Britney Spears, they won&#039;t notice!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whats a few billion dollars here and there for Bush&#8217;s buddies, when the country is already trillions in debt? Americans are not paying attention to the publics finance, so why not plunder it while their not looking? Their busy being distracted by the latest news on Britney Spears, they won&#8217;t notice!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5040854', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Freedom Rebel</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/06/23/waste-army-proposal/comment-page-1/#comment-5040820</link>
		<dc:creator>Freedom Rebel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 15:58:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;The Army Contracting Command will be headed initially by Jeffrey Parsons, a civilian official, an appointment that underscores how few senior Army officers there are with extensive credentials in defense contracting. (April 2008)&lt;/em&gt;

This is to help the Army combat Contract Fraud from an article back in April.  The problem is they are understaffed and are not prepared to deal with this many wars all at the same time.  In April, the Army had plans to hire 1,400 new personnel to help with these ongoing problems.  But it will take 2 to 3 years to hire that many people.  

This administration is only perpetuating the problem, with an inadequate amount of people doing the acquisitions and investigating potential fraud.  

&quot;Since 2005, the Army Criminal Investigation Command has opened 168 investigations related to contract fraud in Iraq, Kuwait and Afghanistan, according to spokesman Chris Grey. Ninety-five of those cases are ongoing. Of the 73 that have been closed, the subjects were indicted, the allegations turned out to be false, or the inquiry ended because of a lack of evidence.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>The Army Contracting Command will be headed initially by Jeffrey Parsons, a civilian official, an appointment that underscores how few senior Army officers there are with extensive credentials in defense contracting. (April 2008)</em></p>
<p>This is to help the Army combat Contract Fraud from an article back in April.  The problem is they are understaffed and are not prepared to deal with this many wars all at the same time.  In April, the Army had plans to hire 1,400 new personnel to help with these ongoing problems.  But it will take 2 to 3 years to hire that many people.  </p>
<p>This administration is only perpetuating the problem, with an inadequate amount of people doing the acquisitions and investigating potential fraud.  </p>
<p>&#8220;Since 2005, the Army Criminal Investigation Command has opened 168 investigations related to contract fraud in Iraq, Kuwait and Afghanistan, according to spokesman Chris Grey. Ninety-five of those cases are ongoing. Of the 73 that have been closed, the subjects were indicted, the allegations turned out to be false, or the inquiry ended because of a lack of evidence.&#8221;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5040820', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: upside99</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/06/23/waste-army-proposal/comment-page-1/#comment-5040786</link>
		<dc:creator>upside99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 15:45:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Squeaky Wheels Says:
“That typical Repug attitude: I got mine, Cheney you!”

What does the verb, “to Cheney” mean? To go F- yourself or to get shot in the face?&lt;/em&gt;

Yep, can mean both, depending on the situation. Quite a useful little term, isn&#039;t it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Squeaky Wheels Says:<br />
“That typical Repug attitude: I got mine, Cheney you!”</p>
<p>What does the verb, “to Cheney” mean? To go F- yourself or to get shot in the face?</em></p>
<p>Yep, can mean both, depending on the situation. Quite a useful little term, isn&#8217;t it?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5040786', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: House of Roberts</title>
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		<dc:creator>House of Roberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 15:41:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny how even the military knows they aren&#039;t getting a fair job done for their budget money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny how even the military knows they aren&#8217;t getting a fair job done for their budget money.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5040772', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Paul W</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/06/23/waste-army-proposal/comment-page-1/#comment-5040770</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 15:41:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Last year, the White House tried to block legislation that would limit the use of no-bid contracts and require greater congressional oversight. Despite Bush’s opposition, the Senate passed the bill unanimously, and the House approved it with 347 votes.&lt;/em&gt;

This is hardly surprising for a privatization ideologue like Bush where free markets rule and if innocent Iraqis should get killed then &lt;em&gt;caveat emptor&lt;/em&gt; and if tax payer dollars are lost/wasted/stolen, then it&#039;s just another reason to lower taxes.

http://progressiveworldreview.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Last year, the White House tried to block legislation that would limit the use of no-bid contracts and require greater congressional oversight. Despite Bush’s opposition, the Senate passed the bill unanimously, and the House approved it with 347 votes.</em></p>
<p>This is hardly surprising for a privatization ideologue like Bush where free markets rule and if innocent Iraqis should get killed then <em>caveat emptor</em> and if tax payer dollars are lost/wasted/stolen, then it&#8217;s just another reason to lower taxes.</p>
<p><a href="http://progressiveworldreview.com" rel="nofollow">http://progressiveworldreview.com</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5040770', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Squeaky Wheels</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/06/23/waste-army-proposal/comment-page-1/#comment-5040760</link>
		<dc:creator>Squeaky Wheels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 15:40:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;That typical Repug attitude: I got mine, Cheney you!&quot;

What does the verb, &quot;to Cheney&quot; mean?  To go F- yourself or to get shot in the face?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;That typical Repug attitude: I got mine, Cheney you!&#8221;</p>
<p>What does the verb, &#8220;to Cheney&#8221; mean?  To go F- yourself or to get shot in the face?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5040760', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: WaltinTexas</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/06/23/waste-army-proposal/comment-page-1/#comment-5040738</link>
		<dc:creator>WaltinTexas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 15:35:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fascism can&#039;t work if there&#039;s oversight and accountability.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fascism can&#8217;t work if there&#8217;s oversight and accountability.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5040738', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: lokidog</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/06/23/waste-army-proposal/comment-page-1/#comment-5040732</link>
		<dc:creator>lokidog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 15:33:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Off topic&quot;, but sheds light on just how f***ed up the Pentagon is and out of whack their priorities are thanks to this criminal administration and their &quot;leadership&quot; (makes me want to puke):


&lt;em&gt;Ken Ham, chief wackaloon at Answers in Genesis, was invited to speak…at a Pentagon prayer breakfast.

Just let that sink in.

There are people at the Pentagon who are in charge of planning where your sons and daughter and nephews and nieces and other beloved family members and friends will be sent to put their lives at risk. There are people there who can send missiles and bombers anywhere in the world. There are people there who control nuclear weapons.

And they think Ken Ham is a fine-and-dandy, clever feller.

It&#039;s almost enough to make me wish I could pray. It&#039;s not just Ham, either — it&#039;s that the people with the big guns have prayer breakfasts.

And then, somehow, he segues into babbling about the existence of life on other worlds. He doesn&#039;t think there is any. Look at the logic this kook uses:

The real world is the biblical world--a universe designed by God with the Earth at the spiritual focal point, not an evolutionary universe teeming with life. … Extraterrestrial life is an evolutionary concept; it does not comport with the biblical teachings of the uniqueness of the Earth and the distinct spiritual position of human beings.

Because the bible says we are the focus of the entire universe, there can&#039;t possibly be any competitors. Of course, this means that his god created this vast, empty, uninhabitable space for no reason other than that we&#039;ll have twinkly little stars in the sky at night…but hey, that&#039;s the crazy Christian deity, always doing irrational stuff and encouraging his followers to be equally nuts.&lt;/em&gt;

http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2008/06/now_im_going_to_have_nightmare.php</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Off topic&#8221;, but sheds light on just how f***ed up the Pentagon is and out of whack their priorities are thanks to this criminal administration and their &#8220;leadership&#8221; (makes me want to puke):</p>
<p><em>Ken Ham, chief wackaloon at Answers in Genesis, was invited to speak…at a Pentagon prayer breakfast.</p>
<p>Just let that sink in.</p>
<p>There are people at the Pentagon who are in charge of planning where your sons and daughter and nephews and nieces and other beloved family members and friends will be sent to put their lives at risk. There are people there who can send missiles and bombers anywhere in the world. There are people there who control nuclear weapons.</p>
<p>And they think Ken Ham is a fine-and-dandy, clever feller.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s almost enough to make me wish I could pray. It&#8217;s not just Ham, either — it&#8217;s that the people with the big guns have prayer breakfasts.</p>
<p>And then, somehow, he segues into babbling about the existence of life on other worlds. He doesn&#8217;t think there is any. Look at the logic this kook uses:</p>
<p>The real world is the biblical world&#8211;a universe designed by God with the Earth at the spiritual focal point, not an evolutionary universe teeming with life. … Extraterrestrial life is an evolutionary concept; it does not comport with the biblical teachings of the uniqueness of the Earth and the distinct spiritual position of human beings.</p>
<p>Because the bible says we are the focus of the entire universe, there can&#8217;t possibly be any competitors. Of course, this means that his god created this vast, empty, uninhabitable space for no reason other than that we&#8217;ll have twinkly little stars in the sky at night…but hey, that&#8217;s the crazy Christian deity, always doing irrational stuff and encouraging his followers to be equally nuts.</em></p>
<p><a href="http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2008/06/now_im_going_to_have_nightmare.php" rel="nofollow">http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2008/06/now_im_going_to_have_nightmare.php</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5040732', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Squeaky Wheels</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/06/23/waste-army-proposal/comment-page-1/#comment-5040726</link>
		<dc:creator>Squeaky Wheels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 15:31:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Call this the &quot;Three Monkeys&quot; initiative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Call this the &#8220;Three Monkeys&#8221; initiative.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5040726', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: 5th Estate</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/06/23/waste-army-proposal/comment-page-1/#comment-5040710</link>
		<dc:creator>5th Estate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 15:24:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zimzone, Unbeleivable: 

We&#039;ve been having a revolutiuon since the 2000 coup. It&#039;s just not been a public, take to the streets-type&lt;strong&gt;popular &lt;/strong&gt;revolution. Instead it&#039;s been the wrong kind of revolution. )Sigh(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zimzone, Unbeleivable: </p>
<p>We&#8217;ve been having a revolutiuon since the 2000 coup. It&#8217;s just not been a public, take to the streets-type<strong>popular </strong>revolution. Instead it&#8217;s been the wrong kind of revolution. )Sigh(<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5040710', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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