ThinkFast: June 24, 2008
ThinkFast: June 24, 2008
An Iraqi city council member opened fire on U.S. forces outside Baghdad on Monday, killing two soldiers and wounding three others. “The U.S. forces returned fire, killing the city council member, according to two Interior Ministry officials.”
Several measures the Bush administration uses to demonstrate progress in Iraq “are either incorrect or far more mixed than the administration has acknowledged,” according to a new GAO report. Though data on the declines in overall violence is generally accurate, administration figures “broadly overstate gains” in other categories like the readiness of the Iraqi Army and electricity production, the report finds.
According to a new Department of Justice (DOJ) Inspector’s General report to be released today, high-ranking political appointees, beginning under former attorney general John Ashcroft, moved to “exert more control” more over the DOJ’s prestigious hiring program. They reportedly tried to stock it with “young conservatives in a five-year-long attempt to reshape the department’s ranks.”
After voting against the Webb GI Bill, Sen. John Cornyn (R-TX) now “has the gall to try and take credit for its passage.” Brandon Friedman writes, “It is an admirable attempt at spin, however. Either way, the troops know Cornyn is a flip-flopper who supports them when it’s politically expedient.”
On the trail today: Today, Barack Obama (D-IL) will travel to Las Vegas for a “Change that Works for You” discussion on energy and green jobs. Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) will speak alongside California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger in Santa Barbara.
A military attaché has told investigators that that the United States ambassador to Albania “helped cover up the illegal Chinese origins of ammunition that a Pentagon contractor bought to supply Afghan security forces.” The ambassador endorsed a plan to repackage the ammunition “to disguise its origins” and then ship it from Albania to Afghanistan for a Miami Beach arms-dealing company.
“For almost two years former Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge failed to register a nearly half-million-dollar lobbying contract that he had with the government of Albania.” Ridge, who just registered earlier this month, said he “didn’t think it was [necessary] to register,” even though federal law requires “agents to register with the DOJ within 10 days of signing a contract with a foreign government.”
The flights of nearly 40,000 travelers were canceled or delayed at Heathrow Airport to accommodate President Bush during his stopover in London on June 15 and 16. British Airways chief executive Willie Walsh criticized the disruption, stating, “The decision to allow President Bush and his fleet of aircraft to fly into Heathrow rather than a military base was one all of Heathrow’s users could have done without.”
During his congressional testimony yesterday, NASA climatologist Dr. James Hansen urged the U.S. to phase out coal plants. Warning that “we’ve passed the tipping point” regarding global warming, Hansen advised, “I think the most important near-term thing is to say let’s have a moratorium on coal.”
In an effort to “communicate directly with students, dissidents and others without endorsing the government,” the Bush administration “is considering setting up a diplomatic outpost in Iran in what would mark a dramatic official U.S. return to the country nearly 30 years after the American embassy was overrun and the two nations severed relations.”
And finally: Pearl Jam’s Eddie Vedder was in DC yesterday for a concert, during which he “went on a tear” about, among other topics, conservatives’ “proposed plan to lift the ban on offshore drilling” and “the ‘corporate’ mentality of the Bush administration.” There was reportedly “some muffled booing,” including from attendee House Minority Leader John Boehner’s (R-OH) spokesman Brian Kennedy, who nevertheless said it was a “great show.”
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A human-animal hybrid nonproliferation treaty?
So many congressional hearings lately have focused on the housing crisis, credit crunch or energy prices that one tends to forget that there are other pressing matters to attend to. Like, how to stop an international arms race in biotechnological engineering, in which humans are redesigned with superior intelligence, human-animal hybrids start popping out of laboratories all over the planet, and direct brain-machine interaction becomes the stuff of daily life.
But the hearing of the House Committee on Foreign Affairs, Subcommittee on Terrorism, Nonproliferation, and Trade held last Thursday was all too real, even though my eyes did start to roll when the prospects of eternal life and an “end to scarcity” were raised.
The question at the heart of the hearing was fascinating: How do we come to an international biotechnological equivalent of the nuclear nonproliferation treaty, when there are widely varying views, globally speaking, on where to draw the line between what’s kosher and what isn’t when we start tinkering with how humans are put together at a fundamental genetic level? How do you balance, for example, maintaining a competitive position at the forefront of modern medical research with a particular set of values? From a globalization standpoint, the most interesting subplot of the hearing had to do with the impact that restrictive (or permissive) laws governing what kind of research is acceptable has on the flow of ideas and scientists across the planet.
Earlier this year, said Metzl, “Britain passed a new embryology law that allows for the use of chimeras, human-animal hybrid embryos, up to 14 days for research purposes.” And now U.S. politicians are discussing biotech research nonproliferation. Good luck. Once upon a time, the U.S. ruled the global science roost. But in today’s world, if the U.S. doesn’t build it, it will go elsewhere.
http://www.salon.com/tech/htww/index.html
For the life of me I do not understand why this country allows religious zealots to dictate pure research. Why stem cells are the anti-christ, when in actuality they are the key to curing Parkinson’s Disease, spinal cord injuries, and so many other horrible diseases. The government has allowed religion to get in the way of making many significant breakthroughs. I have no issue with how anyone worships; but don’t force it on the rest of society. Religious beliefs in all of it’s manifestations has no place in science or any research project.
June 24th, 2008 at 9:01 amUS army to get its first female four-star general
A 33-year veteran of the US military, Lieutenant General Ann Dunwoody, on Monday became the first woman to be nominated to the highest rank in the US Army, four-star general. “This is an historic occasion for the Department of Defense and I am proud to nominate Lt Gen Ann Dunwoody for a fourth star,” Defense Secretary Robert Gates said in a statement.
Dunwoody’s nomination has to be approved by the US Senate. She would take over as commander of Army Materiel Command, a branch of the army that provides logistics support to tens of thousands of US soldiers stationed around the world. Dunwoody was named deputy commanding general of Materiel Command only last week, following the retirement of Lieutenant General William Mortensen.
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/US_army_to_get_its_first_0623.html
Wow, I’m impressed she even received a nomination. How progressive of the Army; it’s nice to see a woman may actually break another barrier in my lifetime. This will set a great precedence to any woman you wants to make a career in the military.
Don’t Let Bush Cut Funding for Public Broadcasting
The Bush administration has slashed the proposed public broadcasting budget by 56 percent – putting at risk vital news, educational and cultural programming that millions of Americans say they prefer to commercial media. By taking action, you can push Congress to pass legislation that not only restores but increases funding for diverse public media.
https://secure.freepress.net/site/Advocacy?cmd=display&page=UserAction&id=271
If you go to this link you can; Sign the petition to your senators urging them to protect public broadcasting. Bush Administration hates diverse public media, it’s something that they have no control over unless they cut their budget. Rotten SOB’s.
June 24th, 2008 at 9:02 amSeveral measures the Bush administration uses to demonstrate progress in Iraq “are total bullcrap,” according to a new GAO report.
June 24th, 2008 at 9:05 amIn an effort to “communicate directly with students, dissidents and others without endorsing the government,” the Bush administration “is considering setting up a diplomatic outpost in Iran.
Is this appeasement? NO! This is exactly what Bush should have been doing 6-7 years ago. Most of Iran’s youth is pro-Western. Iran just elected a new Speaker, who doesn’t agree with many of Iran’s current foreign policies.
I just hope this isn’t a sham to be used later as we begin bombing, saying, ‘well, we tried, but diplomacy just can’t work in Iran.
June 24th, 2008 at 9:06 amAn Iraqi city council member opened fire on U.S. forces outside Baghdad on Monday, killing two soldiers and wounding three others. “The U.S. forces returned fire, killing the city council member, according to two Interior Ministry officials.”
But, but, they were supposed to greet us as liberators and be grateful that we have occupied them…
Sheesh! How much bigger of a message to the Republicans need before they get the message that we’re not wanted there?
June 24th, 2008 at 9:07 amThe flights of nearly 40,000 travelers were canceled or delayed at Heathrow Airport to accommodate President Bush during his stopover in London on June 15 and 16.
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Whenever the POTUS travels anywhere, all traffic is disrupted, whether it’s Air Force One, the presidential motorcade, or any other mode of transportation. And I agree with the BA exec that it’s a pain in the butt for everyone else.
I know that whenever the president (or the vice president) travels anywhere near my town, traffic patterns are disrupted for the entire time he’s here. Therefore I greet the news of a presidential visit with dread.
And it’s not just the traffic tie-ups — imagine how much fuel is consumed by large planes and large motorcades (not to mention greenhouse gases churned out)!
I don’t blame Bush for this, though. This happens no matter who the president is, or how I feel about him politically. It’s the system that we have in place to keep our president safe.
I don’t support relaxing presidential security, but perhaps our president could return to the WWII mindset — “is this trip necessary?”
June 24th, 2008 at 9:09 amJudge: Why Litigate When You Can Arrest?
In a motion hearing in federal court today, U.S. District Judge John Bates questioned why Congress didn’t simply arrest former White House counsel Harriet Miers and Chief of Staff Josh Bolten after both refused to respond to subpoenas issued by the House Judiciary Committee:
Congress has the authority to hold someone in contempt, U.S. District Judge John Bates said. Did it really need to go to court? House counsel Irvin Nathan said it did. The hearing is the latest in an ongoing battle between Congress and the White House, to have senior aides testify about the U.S. attorney firings. Bates also queried whether he should make a decision at all:
“Both sides have the same argument,” Bates said. “Whether I rule for the executive branch or I rule for the legislative branch, I’m going to disrupt the balance.”
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/06/judge_why_litigate_when_you_can_arrest.php
The judge asks why Congress doesn’t just arrest these two. Great question judge, we have all been wondering the same thing. It’s a lack of accountability and an unwillingness to do their job. Many of them obviously should never be allowed on this Judiciary Committee again.
June 24th, 2008 at 9:11 amDuring his congressional testimony yesterday, NASA climatologist Dr. James Hansen urged the U.S. to phase out coal plants. Warning that “we’ve passed the tipping point” regarding global warming, Hansen advised, “I think the most important near-term thing is to say let’s have a moratorium on coal.”
AND nuclear power.
Solar panels are now down in cost to a one time investment of $1 per watt. Wind farms don’t pollute or explode. Geothermal is clean and produces no wastes. There are far better renewable, green, and safe alternatives than ethanol, coal or nuclear power. Let’s get real about alternative fuels.
June 24th, 2008 at 9:11 amSeveral measures the Bush administration uses to demonstrate progress in Iraq “are either incorrect or far more mixed than the administration has acknowledged”
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I predict this won’t stop these “measures” from getting entrenched in the GOP sock puppet talking points, though.
June 24th, 2008 at 9:11 am> There was reportedly “some muffled booing,”
most of which was coming from Exley and his mom..
June 24th, 2008 at 9:16 amFreedom Rebel Says: But the hearing of the House Committee on Foreign Affairs, Subcommittee on Terrorism, Nonproliferation, and Trade held last Thursday was all too real, even though my eyes did start to roll when the prospects of eternal life and an “end to scarcity” were raised.
Hmmm. So, it’s okay for these religious nuts to ‘play god’ when it comes to artificial selection of dogs and cattle, or with invitro fetilization to allow barren couples to have babies, but not okay for Science to ‘play god’ to use non-viable cells for the sake of curing Alzheimers or other such diseases that plague us?
How exactly to they decide when it is okay to ‘play god’ and when it isn’t? When it fits with the bibles? Seems quite hypocritical to me.
We really need to get actual Science back in Science classes. Soon.
June 24th, 2008 at 9:18 amSo, Chertoff (I), can now waive Federal environmental law and override local jurisdiction in the name of Homeland Security over a ‘freak’n fence?
And the military can test sonar, overriding several maritime and animal safety laws while endangering or harming large mammals?
Meanwhile, the Bush report on Iraqi progress appears more than ‘tainted’. Only 10% of Iraqi forces are combat ready, but our Pentagon keeps lying to Americans, stating over 50% are ‘ready’.
Ever feel like you’re being lied to? Want to do something about it? Let’s make this a ‘November to remember’. Vote all crooked pols out, be they Dem or Rep.
We need a new way forward, and it’s not going to happen under these Congress critters’ watch.
June 24th, 2008 at 9:18 amunbelievable Says
June 24th, 2008 at 9:18 am
Hmmm. So, it’s okay for these religious nuts to ‘play god’ when it comes to artificial selection of dogs and cattle, or with invitro fetilization to allow barren couples to have babies, but not okay for Science to ‘play god’ to use non-viable cells for the sake of curing Alzheimers or other such diseases that plague us?
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Silly rabbit — you KNOW it’s only OK to “play God” when there’s a lot of money to be made. It’s the Republican way!
June 24th, 2008 at 9:25 amrogerse:
June 24th, 2008 at 9:28 amIs supply running low as this seems pretty much almost nothing of significance.
#11 unbelievable Says:
Hmmm. So, it’s okay for these religious nuts to ‘play god’ when it comes to artificial selection of dogs and cattle, or with invitro fetilization to allow barren couples to have babies, but not okay for Science to ‘play god’ to use non-viable cells for the sake of curing Alzheimers or other such diseases that plague us?
How exactly to they decide when it is okay to ‘play god’ and when it isn’t? When it fits with the bibles? Seems quite hypocritical to me.
We really need to get actual Science back in Science classes. Soon.
Good Morning unbelievable :) Good question, one I would love them to answer. “Playing God” when critical research needs to be done to find cures is not advantageous to anyone.
You are right about the Science Classes. Science and Religion can never co-exist on the same plane, it’s impossible. Too many theologies.
June 24th, 2008 at 9:29 amAfter voting against the Webb GI Bill, Sen. John Cornyn (R-TX) now “has the gall to try and take credit for its passage.”
Sen. Cornyn retorted, “Why are you picking on me? John McCain is claiming credit for the bill after opposing it, and then not showing up for the vote. President Bush threatened to veto the bill, and now he’s taking credit for it too.”
June 24th, 2008 at 9:32 amIgnorance breeds fear and fear breeds Republicans
June 24th, 2008 at 9:36 amFreedom Rebel Says:
US army to get its first female four-star general
Wow, I’m impressed she even received a nomination. How progressive of the Army; it’s nice to see a woman may actually break another barrier in my lifetime. This will set a great precedence to any woman you wants to make a career in the military.
The cynic in me is wondering if this is an election year ;)
June 24th, 2008 at 9:36 amGood morning FR :)
June 24th, 2008 at 9:37 amWhat did we miss? Let us know in the comments section.
How about this story via WaPo- Is IG Glenn Fine at last going to start releasing the reports on the politicization of the DoJ?
Report Says Partisanship Reigned in Justice Department Hiring Program
June 24th, 2008 at 9:38 amhttp://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/23/AR2008062301796.html?nav=rss_politics
rogerse:
June 24th, 2008 at 9:45 amIn all honesty, I don’t care what you do or do not believe. My point was that relative to your other cut and pastes this one seems basically meaningless
rogerse Says
June 24th, 2008 at 9:26 am
Barack Obama’s campaign has shelved the quasi-presidential seal that it unveiled just Friday. Critics called the design a sign of bad judgment and arrogance.
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Yes, this was a cheesy marketing idea that bombed. That happens sometimes. However, I doubt many people will make their voting decision based on this.
Do you have anything with a bit more substance this morning?
June 24th, 2008 at 9:52 ambarackocarter Says:
IAEA Chief: Iran Could Make Nuke In 6 Months
His exact quote.
Neocon “reporters” and trolls…. **sigh**
June 24th, 2008 at 9:54 am
#19 Exit Stage Left Says:
Freedom Rebel Says:
US army to get its first female four-star general
Wow, I’m impressed she even received a nomination. How progressive of the Army; it’s nice to see a woman may actually break another barrier in my lifetime. This will set a great precedence to any woman you wants to make a career in the military.
The cynic in me is wondering if this is an election year ;)
Good Morning Exit Stage Left:) I wouldn’t be surprised if that was one of the guiding motivations. Don’t feel bad with this government it’s hard not to be a cynic.
But part of me is hoping that she actually is the most qualified for the promotion. Even if it is for the wrong reason (an election year) this has been a long time in coming and I’m finally glad that women are starting to get recognition for their sacrifices and their service to our country.
Good to see you this morning. Have a great day!!
June 24th, 2008 at 9:54 amrogerse:
June 24th, 2008 at 9:55 amI never said I have nothing to say about it. What I said was it really wasn’t much of an issue. All campaigns come up with ideas which they later change gear on when they reflect more upon them. Since you seem to think it has deep meaning, would you be kind enough to expound on the sugnificance you seem to find here?
What was Al Gore Doing in Texas?
June 24th, 2008 at 9:57 ambarackocarter Says:
EU approves sanctions against Iran’s biggest bank
sanctions and diplomacy are the right path.
Notice no European leaders are singing “Bomb, Bomb Iran”.
June 24th, 2008 at 9:58 amLooks like the tom delay cult has a representative too.
Do you guys have knees that hinge in the back like flamingo’s? Just wondering because you always walk backwards.
FDR said a conservative is someone with two perfectly good legs that steadfastly refuse to walk forward.
June 24th, 2008 at 10:01 amTheRight Says:
About 2 months ago, Western Texas experienced a stage 2 power emergency. Businesses and other large users of electricity like Al Gore had do cut back on their usage.
Exactly when did Al Gore move to Texas?
June 24th, 2008 at 10:04 amHmmm?
unbelievable Says
June 24th, 2008 at 9:11 am
Solar panels are now down in cost to a one time investment of $1 per watt. Wind farms don’t pollute or explode. Geothermal is clean and produces no wastes. There are far better renewable, green, and safe alternatives than ethanol, coal or nuclear power. Let’s get real about alternative fuels.
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If our oil companies were really serious about exploring and investing in the development of alternative energy sources (instead of pretending to as a condition for all the corporate welfare they receive), we would have made a great deal more progress toward using these sources as our norm.
I support technology that increases the efficiency and lowers the cost of photovoltaic panels. I support research into the harnessing of landfill gas. I support the use of biofuels (such as livestock waste) as an energy source instead of allowing it to be the environmental pollutant that it is (I live in NC, and there are a LOT of hog farms here). And I support more development of vehicles that use less (or no) fossil fuels BEFORE our planet runs out of oil. Why in the world would anyone be against these things — except perhaps energy companies who don’t want people to stray from the energy source that’s currently making obscene profits for the company?
June 24th, 2008 at 10:04 amThe Right:
I doubt you have the balls to tell the US military that they are part of a “cult”
WASHINGTON, D.C. (April 16, 2007) Global climate change presents a serious national security threat that could affect Americans at home, impact U.S. military operations and heighten global tensions, according to a study released today by a blue-ribbon panel of retired admirals and generals.
June 24th, 2008 at 10:05 amYou just make yourself look foolish. Wind power is not responsible for any of the energy you quote….a de-regulated electrical grid….not maintained properly because regulation has been dropped is the cause.
June 24th, 2008 at 10:07 am>An Iraqi city council member
>opened fire on U.S. forces
As they stand up, we’ll get gunned down.
Apparently this guy wasn’t making enough at his former Us Taxpayer funded job of “not shooting at us”..
June 24th, 2008 at 10:07 amAl Gore lives in Texas?
June 24th, 2008 at 10:09 am> The Global Warming Cult has a
> strong presence on this website.
Clamydia has a strong prescense in your mothers nether regions
June 24th, 2008 at 10:10 am#32 the Right
The Global Warming Cult has a strong presence on this website.
About 2 months ago, Western Texas experienced a stage 2 power emergency. Businesses and other large users of electricity like Al Gore had do cut back on their usage.
Why did this happen? The wind stopped blowing and all the windmills ground to a halt producing NO electricity.
Unreliable energy…now that is a great regressive plan…just like in the old Soviet Union.
First, you need to state all of the facts>>>>>>
A drop in wind generation late on Tuesday, coupled with colder weather, triggered an electric emergency that caused the Texas grid operator to cut service to some large customers.
(Some Large Customers)
System operators curtailed power to interruptible customers to shave 1,100 megawatts of demand within 10 minutes, ERCOT said. Interruptible customers are generally large industrial customers who are paid to reduce power use when emergencies occur.
These customers are paid to reduce power use. You are going to have to do better than that. Or are you assuming I will not do the research?????
June 24th, 2008 at 10:10 amTheRight Says:
The Global Warming Cult has a strong presence on this website.
Did you know that Saudi Arabian oil profits are used to fund the Wahabi cult, 15 members of which were among the 9/11 hijackers. Why do you support Islamic extremists, who hate us for our freedom and want to destroy America?
June 24th, 2008 at 10:11 amChocolate Jesus Says:
Al Gore lives in Texas?
The trolls are a hoot this morning, eh CJ?
June 24th, 2008 at 10:12 amHilariously idiotic =)
TheRight Says:
No link equals no credibility.
Why do trolls enjoy their own golden showers?
June 24th, 2008 at 10:13 am> Barack Obama’s campaign has shelved the
> quasi-presidential seal
Thanks for the IMPORTANT stuff Rodgerdraftshaftdodger. You have any info on the whereabouts of Obamas flag pin? Do you think Dumbya would mind if Obama borrowed his mile long “Mission Accomplished” banner as he can REALLY show a sign of bad judgement and arrogance?
June 24th, 2008 at 10:15 amTheRight Says:
Comon righty, tell us some more stuff. You know like progressives are keeping black people down with welfare…..problem with all of your arguments is that they are not factual. Single, white women make up over 80% of welfare recipiants…..
June 24th, 2008 at 10:16 amMaybe McCorpse can have his picture taken with The Terminator (the only U.S. citizen who owns a Boeing 747) along the shoreline in Santa Barbara, with the offshore oil rigs clearly in view.
The Repuke faithful would love it.
June 24th, 2008 at 10:19 amTheRight Says:
reightie,
do you know this guy?
you both have so much in common.
i thought you might know him.
got some trouble on his hands.
poor guy.
good luck.
&
June 24th, 2008 at 10:23 amI did and I have to say it doesn’t make any more sense than this one.
June 24th, 2008 at 10:24 amcurmudgeon Says:
Maybe McCorpse can have his picture taken with The Terminator (the only U.S. citizen who owns a Boeing 747) along the shoreline in Santa Barbara, with the offshore oil rigs clearly in view.
That’s not going to happen. If all those Republicans on the west coast of Florida see that scene, they will all scream, “Not on my beach you don’t!”
June 24th, 2008 at 10:26 amHi rogerse
June 24th, 2008 at 10:27 amGlad to see your return. So might you explain the deep meaning you find in the seal deal?
rogerse Says:
Chocolate Jesus Says:
hey dingus, did you even see my last post…
no one reads them.
like you
they’re boring.
good luck.
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dingus?
are you trying to win friends
and influence people?
because you’re going about it the wrong way.
good luck.
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your comment requires a question mark (?)
good luck.
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June 24th, 2008 at 10:27 amTheRight Says: The wind stopped blowing and all the windmills ground to a halt producing NO electricity. Unreliable energy…now that is a great regressive plan…just like in the old Soviet Union.
Don’t be ridiculous. There’s this thing called a storage battery that allows energy harvested by natural resources to be stored for use when the wind isn’t blowing, or the sun isn’t shining (that’s called ‘night’).
I know it hurts to think, but if you practice, it’ll eventually become natural.
June 24th, 2008 at 10:29 ammisshusseinmolly Says: Why in the world would anyone be against these things — except perhaps energy companies who don’t want people to stray from the energy source that’s currently making obscene profits for the company?
It’s like you said earlier – it’s all about money to these greedy pigs.
The odd thing is that they could make profit off other forms of energy too, while protecting the environment…
These people are irrational.
June 24th, 2008 at 10:32 amGood Morning all….Do’s any one know when the FISA bill is going up before the Senate.? When do’s the senate go on vacation again.?..Thank’s…Blessings
June 24th, 2008 at 10:35 amWitch1 Says: Good Morning all….Do’s any one know when the FISA bill is going up before the Senate.? When do’s the senate go on vacation again.?..Thank’s…Blessings
I was trying to find news on it this morning, but it seems to have fallen off the radar. It’ll probably come up for vote at 3:00 am so we won’t know about it until after the fact.
June 24th, 2008 at 10:38 amrogerse Says
June 24th, 2008 at 9:26 am
barackocarter Says
June 24th, 2008 at 9:39 am
barackocarter Says
June 24th, 2008 at 9:41 am
rogerse Says
June 24th, 2008 at 9:55 am
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Is it asking too much that our trolls put forth as much effort into their posts as the rest of us do? All of the posts above pretty much follow the same troll pattern. Post a link to some news story, then copy and paste part of the content within the linked article. No comment, no original thought — just troll spam.
C’mon, guys — if you actually have an item worthy of discussion, you have to start the discussion. Take a cue from Freedom Rebel. If you scroll to the beginning of the comments, you will see that he/she posts an article, then adds his/her own comments to it.
Try doing that, and we just MAY respect your posts a bit more even if we still disagree with the content. Right now, they’re just troll droppings and flag-worthy.
June 24th, 2008 at 10:39 ambush appointee judge suggests congress take matters into its own hands and use inherent contempt on bush aides..
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080623/ap_on_go_co/congress_contempt;_ylt=AnVwjDWy7cqU9vrzWYhfWQNh24cA
June 24th, 2008 at 10:40 amunbelievable Says:
I know it hurts to think, but if you practice, it’ll eventually become natural.
And the Republicans would lose yet another supporter.
No, I think this one is going to stay firmly in the group of 23% deadenders. That’s much easier for it than learning to think for itself.
June 24th, 2008 at 10:41 amcome on rogerse:
June 24th, 2008 at 10:44 amYou put it out there, I didn’t. Is it too much to ask you to explain why you felt the need to post it? It has nothing to do with my attitude toward it. It wasn’t my baby. Failure to explain why you felt the need to suggest it had meaning makes you look weak
>hey dingus, did you even see my last post…
you dont post, you plagarize. the closest thing your trailer trazsh web-tv posting self ever comes to actually posting is a few incoherent words uttered in a desparate and perpetually fruitless attempt to escape the logical tree shredder your cut n paste “arguments” invaribaly fall into.
June 24th, 2008 at 10:45 amThey reportedly tried to stock it with “young conservatives in a five-year-long attempt to reshape the department’s ranks.”
Hopefully Obama will clean out this nest of vipers. Unfortunately many of these may be civil servants, so it may be rough for him to clean out the DOJ. I’m sure that is something that Bush was counting on.
June 24th, 2008 at 10:46 amWhat a campaign, trolls, what a campaign. The payoff for McCain is evident with his -15% lead.
June 24th, 2008 at 10:46 amroger can cut and roger can paste
but reading his stuff is all a waste
‘cuz he’s got no reason, he makes no sense
you can find more logic in the post of a picket fence
roger, the truth dodger
June 24th, 2008 at 10:47 amroger, the basement lodger
roger, roger,
over and out
misshusseinmolly Says:
Is it asking too much that our trolls put forth as much effort into their posts as the rest of us do? All of the posts above pretty much follow the same troll pattern. Post a link to some news story, then copy and paste part of the content within the linked article. No comment, no original thought — just troll spam.
The trolls hurriedly scan through their lists of the latest RNC talking points for original thoughts to cut and paste.
June 24th, 2008 at 10:47 amshoeless Says: And the Republicans would lose yet another supporter. No, I think this one is going to stay firmly in the group of 23% deadenders. That’s much easier for it than learning to think for itself.
Well, then he will get to enjoy being in the minority for a very long time. Fortunately for him, we respect minorities more than his party does.
June 24th, 2008 at 10:48 amGood morning, Freedom Rebel.
I’m pleasantly surprised that John Bates would point out Congress’ authority to arrest these two Bush cronies. What are the odds, however, of congress getting the message? Why does Pelosi insist on continuing to play nice?
June 24th, 2008 at 10:52 amDr. Hussein Matt Says:
the National Republican Senatorial Committee — uses three different likenesses of the official seal…for fund raising purposes:
I wonder why the liberal biased news media hasn’t raised a big stink about this?
June 24th, 2008 at 10:52 amDr. Hussein Matt Says:
The glass houses effect will cost the republicans dearly this round. Obama will have the money to point out every instance of the republicans finger pointing while being guilty of the same offense….only worse.
June 24th, 2008 at 10:54 amRoger2,
Give us a good cut-and-paste Repug talking point to this:
Oh, wait, that is the SOP for the GOP; take credit for someone else’s work, but blast it before hand. Gotta love those Texas boyz, just like the Bugman DeLay and the Bush Crime Family., huh?
June 24th, 2008 at 10:54 amrogerse – why exactly are you here?
Haven’t you learned by now that we do research and don’t just accept the things you post, as you simpy accept the things you read on fake “news” websites?
June 24th, 2008 at 10:54 amEver feel like you’re being lied to? Want to do something about it? Let’s make this a ‘November to remember’. Vote all crooked pols out, be they Dem or Rep.
Therein lies the rub. If you are a Democrat and your congressperson is one of those who are crooked, are you supposed to vote for the Republican? The only time we have a real choice to get rid of the crooked members of our party is in the primaries.
June 24th, 2008 at 10:55 amso I will assume you have no opinion relative to this “news”. Is that correct rogerse?
June 24th, 2008 at 10:55 amMcWars Says:
I’m pleasantly surprised that John Bates would point out Congress’ authority to arrest these two Bush cronies. What are the odds, however, of congress getting the message? Why does Pelosi insist on continuing to play nice?
Because Nancy was complicit in many of the crimes that the Bush Crime family has committed. She doesn’t want them blowing the whistle on her complicity so she is keeping her mouth shut. She will go down in history as the Worst Speaker of the House ever.
June 24th, 2008 at 10:57 amBilbo Hussein Baggins Says:
Because Nancy was complicit in many of the crimes that the Bush Crime family has committed. She doesn’t want them blowing the whistle on her complicity so she is keeping her mouth shut. She will go down in history as the Worst Speaker of the House ever.
And following Tommy Boy DeLay and Denny ‘Coach” Hasturd and the Boner, that is saying something!
June 24th, 2008 at 11:00 amI think ‘The McChurian’ candidate’s logo is offensive. It, at first glance, appears to be one of our military ’star & wings’ logos.
This is a subliminal marketing message, equating McChurian with our military. Now, Gramps hasn’t been in the military for nearly 40 years, has he? WTF?
Full disclosure, I also didn’t like Obama’s logo.
June 24th, 2008 at 11:05 amrogerse,
I guess IOKIYAR:
June 24th, 2008 at 11:08 amRepublican logos
Unbelievable, I just checked on the senate through C-Span and the bill hasen’t come up yet, it is scheduled for this week some time…..My guess late on a Friday..
AH, yes..The madam of the whore house is part of the guardian group to protect and run with bull shit bush, that’s why she and all the one’s that voted with her passed this and other bill’s to screw us, our country and the constitution..She knew before 9/11…It does not get any clearer than that..
A tiny note on the enviroment..One very beautiful little spot The Cataldo Mission area of Idaho may soon be a dump site for pollution…If allowed it could palloute the entire aqua fir area clear into Spokane, southern Idaho and beyond…Sad, dangerious time’s…..Blessings
June 24th, 2008 at 11:13 amrogerse Says:
It was just news you apparently considered insignifiant, forget it… is #31 insignificant as well?.
bad spelling.
bad punctuation.
if you don’t care enough to get it right
then you really don’t care about the issue.
which makes it insignificant.
why do you constantly undermine yourself?
good luck.
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June 24th, 2008 at 11:13 amWitch1 Says: Unbelievable, I just checked on the senate through C-Span and the bill hasen’t come up yet, it is scheduled for this week some time…..My guess late on a Friday..
Thanks for the update. I bet you’re right. Figures…
June 24th, 2008 at 11:18 amSeveral measures the Bush administration uses to demonstrate progress in Iraq “are either incorrect or far more mixed than the administration has acknowledged,” according to a new GAO report. Though data on the declines in overall violence is generally accurate, administration figures “broadly overstate gains” in other categories like the readiness of the Iraqi Army and electricity production, the report finds.
So Bush was misrepresenting the truth about Iraq? That sounds familiar, where have I heard that before?
http://progressiveworldreview.com
June 24th, 2008 at 11:19 amTheRight Says:
By the way. The hot air coming out of the mouths of Global Warming Cult members raised the Earth’s temperature by one degree.
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who writes your material?
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June 24th, 2008 at 11:23 amTop 5 Reasons Democrats caved on FISA
5 – They really just want to protect America
June 24th, 2008 at 11:25 am(willing to sacrifice liberty for security)
4 – Afraid of being painted weak
3 – Blackmail
2 – Want to cover own complicity in wiretapping crimes
And the number one reason Democrats caved on FISA:
1 – They want the power for themselves!
Hi The Right:
June 24th, 2008 at 11:26 amSo how do you explain the US military’s stand on global climate disruption?
TheRight Says:
I love it that Mr. Al Gore annoys people like you so much. By the way, what the hell does that hve to do with anything?
June 24th, 2008 at 11:26 amwho writes your material?
Alan Smithee?
June 24th, 2008 at 11:26 am#92 Joe, who write’s your material.? Funny question you are asking the troll…LOL.I have a guess of an answer…We all know how elephant’s are about peanut’s…These troll’s get paid peanut’s by their bloated fat elephant runner’s…,10 cent’s per post my guess….It’s hard to get good help these day’s when the big guy’s keep all the real money for themselve’s….Blessings
June 24th, 2008 at 11:34 amTheRight Says: A storage battery works fine for a home or small building. But it would take a battery the size of Tennessee to hold enough electricity to power Western Texas for even 10 minutes.
Nonsense. Why, instead of making up the answers you wish were true, don’t you do some research?
You do realize that you can have multiple storage systems – not just one big one, right?
June 24th, 2008 at 11:35 amTheRight Says:
joe cantwell Says:
who writes your material?
Al Bore, Nobel Peace Prize winner writes my material.
Take that Regressives!!!
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not your mom?
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June 24th, 2008 at 11:40 amHave fun playing with the troll’s today Unbelievable and all….I’m off to plant some little tree’s and run the Bear…Blessings
June 24th, 2008 at 11:40 amWitch1 Says:
#92 Joe, who write’s your material.? Funny question you are asking the troll…LOL.I have a guess of an answer…We all know how elephant’s are about peanut’s…These troll’s get paid peanut’s by their bloated fat elephant runner’s…,10 cent’s per post my guess….It’s hard to get good help these day’s when the big guy’s keep all the real money for themselve’s….Blessings
reightie,
you get a dime?
do you share it with your mom?
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good luck.
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June 24th, 2008 at 11:41 amTheRight Says:
why don’t you answer db’s question?
are they part of the global warming cult….I’m sure you know something about cults but you don’t know much besides that.
June 24th, 2008 at 11:42 amTake what? You act like you have delivered a death blow and all I see is the smoke that comes off of a hot turd early in the morning.
June 24th, 2008 at 11:45 amThe Right:
June 24th, 2008 at 11:48 amAre you going to respond or not. If you don’t come up with some reasonable explainations peaople will not only think you are a fraud but also a pussy
TheRight Says:
Al Bore uses as much electricity in his Tennessee home as 500 of us common folks.
How many ways can you tell this lie? First of all, Al Gore does not live in Texas, so your claim that a power reduction in west Texas caused him to turn off his lights is absurd, and makes you look very stupid. Secondly, his house is equipped with solar panels, a rainwater collection system, and geothermal heating, so your claim that he uses 500 time as much electricity as “common folks” makes you look like a liar.
Do you enjoy looking like a stupid liar?
June 24th, 2008 at 11:58 amshoeless Says:
TheRight Says:
Do you enjoy looking like a stupid liar?
“Looking like”?
June 24th, 2008 at 12:08 pmThe Right?
June 24th, 2008 at 12:18 pmCome on… I have things to do this fine day…
Sorry about your mom The Right. Now about the US miltary. Misguided cult members or what?
June 24th, 2008 at 12:23 pm#75 McWars Says:
Good morning, Freedom Rebel.
I’m pleasantly surprised that John Bates would point out Congress’ authority to arrest these two Bush cronies. What are the odds, however, of congress getting the message? Why does Pelosi insist on continuing to play nice?
Good Morning McWars:) Sorry it took me so long to reply. I wash getting my hair cut, that is one of those things women never miss an appt. for.
O/T I would say Congress has not been getting point for a very long time. This Judiciary Committee is such a farce, they really are a disgrace. I think Bilbo said it yesterday, He wished all the bad democrats would disappear. I’m with him. I don’t think it so much Nancy playing nice as it is she has completely gone to the right and with the media. I’m beyond disappointed in her, I hope Cindy Sheehan makes a very good run against her in this next election and takes her seat.
These congressial members need to learn a very hard lesson that people are watching. If they don’t do their job, they don’t get re-elected for another term. This country has paid too high of a price for their lack of leadership and majority. Of course, in southern Ohio we need to replace a few representatives down there also. Betty Sutton is in my district and she is the new kid on the block and she has done well as far as her voting record. So we will keep sending her money and emails congratulating her every time she votes the right way.
Great to see you McWars. Have a good day ;)
June 24th, 2008 at 12:25 pmThan say something intelligent. I smell pussy
June 24th, 2008 at 12:28 pmDamn! Only a pussy would stand quietly by while others imply they might be a pussy. Can we get an answer here The Right or not? I don’t want you to look bad but I did not create this situation. I just gave you the chance to explain why you seem to think the US military is part of some sort of misguided cult.
June 24th, 2008 at 12:51 pmThe Right,
June 24th, 2008 at 12:55 pmThank you for your honest response. I retrack any suggestion that you might not be up to the challenge. Now whereas you are on record suggesting that global climate may not be a serious matter, might you wish to expound upon the basis of your opinion? Is it that you just dislike Al Gore and wish to tie this much larger issue to this one individual?
dbadass Says:
Is it that you just dislike Al Gore?
Well, he has been telling stupid lies about Al Gore. So, I kinda thinking it’s personal.
June 24th, 2008 at 1:01 pmshoeless:
June 24th, 2008 at 1:26 pmLet’s give The Right a chance to answer for themself. It takes a pretty big person to tangentially ackowledge mistakes/weaknesses. The Right is not a pussy. I am with you though. For now it seems mostly a strong distaste for Mr Gore. Earlier The Right stated that Mr. Gore was the founder of the cult. I found that sort of odd as it seems to give Mr. Gore almost a messianic status. Please clarify, TheRight.
Ok, Rightie, were you telling stupid lies about Al Gore because of a personal dislike for him? And, now that you have had time to google the US military’s position on global climate disruption, do you consider the US military to be part of Gore’s “cult”?
The stage is your’s.
June 24th, 2008 at 1:56 pmand don’t be a pussy about it!
June 24th, 2008 at 2:01 pmSorry, I just couldn’t help myself…
Interesting solution to the problem. I suppose we will have to use alternative assessments. Look forward to catching you later. Good Guys?
June 24th, 2008 at 3:18 pmTheRight Says:
Sorry I have no links handy.
Big surprise.
June 24th, 2008 at 8:28 pm> Global Warming Cult members say the
> the CO2 causes the earth to get warmer.
while the friendly folks at Exxon are just here to edumacate us…
let me ask you one question.. can you name any category of pollution you think we should take any action on?
June 25th, 2008 at 2:05 am