Reid plans a ‘Coburn Omnibus.’
By on Jun 26th, 2008 at 12:29 pm
Reid plans a ‘Coburn Omnibus.’
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) is planning to bring forward a “Coburn Omnibus” in July that would “wrap most if not all of the bills held by Sen. Tom Coburn (R-Okla.) into one large measure to be voted on by the Senate.” Coburn is blocking roughly 100 bills, including ones that fund breast cancer research and screen soldiers for signs of suicide risk. Most recently, Coburn placed a hold on an HIV/AIDS prevention bill, although Senate negotiators have reportedly reached a “tentative” agreement to move forward on that legislation.
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I guess I don’t understand the process. If Coburn can put a hold on 100 bills, why can’t Dodd or Feingold put a hold on the FISA bill?
June 26th, 2008 at 12:34 pmSomeone please explain to me how one Republican Senator can block 100 bills, but 15 Democratic Senators couldn’t block one today (FISA immunity)?
June 26th, 2008 at 12:34 pm#2 – Great point. I don’t get it either.
June 26th, 2008 at 12:36 pmkraftysue – great minds? :)
June 26th, 2008 at 12:37 pmHopefully one of those bills involves giving Oklahoma back to the Indians.
June 26th, 2008 at 12:42 pmOnce in a while ol’ Harry Reid comes up with a winning idea.
June 26th, 2008 at 12:43 pmThis is, in my understanding a Senate ‘convention’ as opposed to a rule. Any Senator can place a hold on a bill, but there’s no legal basis for it, outside the Senate rules. If the Senate gets pissed enough, they could revoke the rule.
June 26th, 2008 at 12:43 pmThey should slip Coburn under that ‘bus’ while they are at it.
_AIO_
June 26th, 2008 at 12:43 pmThe more I examine Republican motives, the even more I dislike what organized religion represents. George Carlin was right. All the things they oppose – especially humanitarian issues – are based in a false sense of religious morality against other people they unfairly judge as inferior, or worse.
If only these people could be subjected to the very ills they seek to allow to perpetuate… Then there might indeed be justice.
June 26th, 2008 at 12:44 pmCoburn is blocking roughly 100 bills,
Okay, if this one idiot can hold up this much progress, why is it so damn hard for the (D)’s to stop the anti-Constitutional FISA crap!
June 26th, 2008 at 12:45 pmrogerse Says: how can they block something they support…duuh.
Fifteen Democrats voted against it.
Try reading some actual news, please.
June 26th, 2008 at 12:46 pmOops, kraftysue beat me to it. (Note to self, read all comments first, then post.)
June 26th, 2008 at 12:48 pmWeren’t the republicans complaining just recently about not getting an up or down vote? Bush made that part of his State of the Union speech.
June 26th, 2008 at 12:48 pmYou’ll have to excuse rogersse.
He’s stupid.
June 26th, 2008 at 12:54 pmrogerse Says: minority shouldn’t block majority, no matter what.
No matter what? So, if your family members all want to fulfill a suicide pact, and you, the sole voice of dissent do not, then, by your argument, you should have to go along with it just because you are the minority?
See, the problem with absolutist statments is that if someone can offer a single excpetion to them, they are immediately invalid.
Instead, try saying, in most cases, the majority should rule. Exceptions should be in cases where the majority rule hurts others. (Thomas Jefferson said that a democracy is mob rule where 51% have the right to repress the other 49% – and why the US is a Republic Democracy instead of a true majority rules Democracy. The majority is not always right).
June 26th, 2008 at 12:57 pmI shouldn’t have said that about rogerse. He does try.
He’s just… not very bright.
June 26th, 2008 at 12:57 pmralph the wonder llama Says: You’ll have to excuse rogersse. He’s stupid.
LOL
Interesting how much he hangs out here. I think he must like it. :)
June 26th, 2008 at 12:58 pmrogerse Says: minority shouldn’t block majority, no matter what.
try telling Mitch McConnell that.
June 26th, 2008 at 1:01 pmrogerse Says: minority shouldn’t block majority, no matter what.
try telling John Boehner that.
June 26th, 2008 at 1:01 pmWhere are the obstructionist senators when you need them? I hope Senator Dodd or somebody can stop the FISA bill. Majority Leader Reid could stop it by keeping it off the floor, why doesn’t he?
June 26th, 2008 at 1:02 pmrogerse Says: minority shouldn’t block majority, no matter what.
So I guess that means that Al Gore won in 2000 and the last 8 years have just been a really bad dream
June 26th, 2008 at 1:03 pmrogerse Says: minority shouldn’t block majority, no matter what.
So about that medical marijuana and death with dignity stuff?
June 26th, 2008 at 1:04 pmspot on!
June 26th, 2008 at 1:08 pmThere are people in Oklahoma that aren’t religous nut-cases. Just not very many of them.
June 26th, 2008 at 1:10 pmrogerse Says: since when is democracy more about whats right, which is relative, and not what is supported…
You really should go and audit a third grade history class… Seriously.
so you support the lone senator blocking 100 bills.
No, I think his reasons are religious and hurt other people. Sheesh, your reading comprehension is really appalling as well. It would help if you actually TRIED to think on occasion. Eventually, you’d start getting the ang of it.
June 26th, 2008 at 1:15 pmrogerse got thrown against all four walls of the basement by Dr. Matt for too long, and now the troll’s strategy is stalk unbelievable with the expectation of a different result?
You’ve got one chance of winning an argument here at TP, troll, and that’s against another troll.
June 26th, 2008 at 1:15 pmits jaw-dropping astounding that reid would honor holds by a supreme whack job like colburn on 100 bills Americans need and want, but when it came to protecting American’s civil rights and the Constitution with the very sane hold by Dodd on a very flawed FISA bill, Americans are out of luck.
Could someone please explain how reid survives – literally, how he can live with the cognitive dissonance in his brain?
June 26th, 2008 at 1:17 pm@29, spasticnapjerk Says:
There are people in Oklahoma that aren’t religous nut-cases. Just not very many of them.
June 26th, 2008 at 1:10 pm
And they leave as soon as possible.
June 26th, 2008 at 1:17 pmI spent 30 years in Norman, OK, from 1994 til 2000…
I don’t know what ranks above the other in terms of laughter — Grampy McSame or Dr. Matt’s rogerse quoteunquote parody.
June 26th, 2008 at 1:18 pmrogerse Says: Your only arguing ’cause you don’t support this bill, but its a bad blocking 1 bill or 100.
Prove it. Prove your argument.
I already explained that blocking a bill that hurts others – and blockng AIDS research hurts other – is wrong, while blocking a bill that violates the Constitution is noble. Can you truly not see the difference bewteen the two?
The ‘bad’ isn’t in blocking a bill – it’s in the bill itself.
Sheesh. You doesn’t even get how ridiculous you are.
June 26th, 2008 at 1:21 pmrogerse Says:
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minority shouldn’t block majority, no matter what.
June 26th, 2008 at 12:51 pm
So you agree with George W. Bush that the Constitution is a “god damn piece of paper.”
Stupid.
June 26th, 2008 at 1:24 pmAnd a hold cannot be put on the FISA bill why?
June 26th, 2008 at 1:25 pmExcuse me, EXCUSE ME, HELLO IS ANY ONE LISTENING AND WATCHING.? 105 in the whore house voted for this FISA madness…They call themselve’s dem’s? yah sure you betcha.Not,,,,Now even Patty Murrey in my state voted for it, shit..Had enough yet…I have..Blessings
June 26th, 2008 at 1:26 pmMcWars,
If nothing else, because I doubt rogerse is educatable, I think it’s done a lot of good to debunk these people in public forums. I’ve had many students tell me that they have developed their own views of such issues based on such dialog – ultimately chooing the better, more logical arguments. It’s the only point I can see in engaging him. Shrinking the Bush base even further…
June 26th, 2008 at 1:26 pmrogerse Says: I can, with your idea, argue aids research is a waste of money, and not worth adressing.
Then do it. By all means, do it. Make a valid argument. I bet you cannot.
June 26th, 2008 at 1:30 pmMcWars Says:
Grampy McSame, by far. Mock_roger is hilarious, but Grampy McSame makes me spray the monitor with coffee.
Oops, I think I have coffee grounds in my Depends!
June 26th, 2008 at 1:30 pmWe really do need to do something about this practice. I think it should be banned. It gives way too much power to one individual.
June 26th, 2008 at 1:34 pmrogerse Says:
unbelievable Says:
minority shouldn’t block majority, no matter what.
Well that’s what the Republiscums have been doing for almost two years now. Nice to know that you are opposed to what they are doing.
June 26th, 2008 at 1:37 pmOh rogerse – stop reasrching the kool-aid database for a scripted response and make your own argument…
June 26th, 2008 at 1:37 pmrogerse Says: what is there to argue, you believe a few individuals can sometimes know better than everyone else..
Argue that funding for AIDS research “is a waste of money, and not worth adressing.” You said you could do it with my logic, so go on and live up to your word.
June 26th, 2008 at 1:42 pmrogerse Says:
unbelievable Says:
what is there to argue, you believe a few individuals can sometimes know better than everyone else..
Case in point: abolutionists
Case in point: women’s suffrage
Case in point: civil rights movement
June 26th, 2008 at 1:42 pmarggh. Should be abolitionists
June 26th, 2008 at 1:43 pmWhy doe’s anyone want to play with roger dodger? Send him back under the bridge where he belong’s or back to a wet basement like a newt….Blessings
June 26th, 2008 at 1:45 pmYou get stupider throughout the day. What time do you start drinking?
June 26th, 2008 at 1:46 pmPure democracy is 5 wolves and a sheep voting on who is for dinner.
That’s why we have a CONSTITUTION. (even though freedom scares sissies like rogerse sooooooo much)
June 26th, 2008 at 1:47 pmRantingTommy Says:
Pure democracy is 5 wolves and a sheep voting on who is for dinner.
Nice. Did you make that up? I love it.
June 26th, 2008 at 1:51 pmMcWars Says:
“I don’t know what ranks above the other in terms of laughter —Grampy McSame or Dr. Matt’s rogerse quoteunquote parody.”
I second that emotion! Hilarious!
June 26th, 2008 at 1:51 pmunbelieveable, I swear you’ve become like one of those parents who understands their infant’s babbling language and can translate it for the aunts and uncles.
June 26th, 2008 at 1:52 pmI share a computer lab with another Instructor. Last night, while my students were solving a problem I’d given them, I was watching the other Instructor teach his students.
His method was to tell them what to do, step by step, and watch as they simply repeated his commands. They didn’t have to do any critical thinking for themselves, or solve any problems.
I think this is indicative of our education system, and why too many people like rogerse exist in our country. They simply follow a leader and never once learn a single critical thinking skill for themselves.
June 26th, 2008 at 1:54 pmralph the wonder llama Says: unbelieveable, I swear you’ve become like one of those parents who understands their infant’s babbling language and can translate it for the aunts and uncles.
LOL. Unfortunately, I have a rightwing conservative brother who is just like him. Really – I wish I didn’t understand… :)
June 26th, 2008 at 1:56 pm1. KraftySue and 2. Unbelievable
Unfortunately, the system will only let me hit recommend one time each.
June 26th, 2008 at 1:59 pmOk, I’m late, but #26, Dr.Hussein Matt, That was hilarious!
Dyslexic People Untie!!!
June 26th, 2008 at 5:42 pm#26 still makes no sense to me. I cannot decipher it. I have not had enough rogerse. No, I do not want more, I just want to be in on the laugh.
June 26th, 2008 at 10:19 pm