ThinkFast: June 27, 2008
ThinkFast: June 27, 2008
Polar scientists say that “for the first time in human history, ice is on course to disappear entirely from the North Pole this year.” The scientists “believe the chances of a totally ice-free North Pole this summer are greater than 50:50 because the normally thick ice formed over many years at the Pole has been blown away and replaced by huge wathes of thinner ice formed over a single year.”
California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger (R-CA) said John McCain is “blowing smoke” about the impact of offshore oil drilling. “Anyone who tells you that this will bring down our gas prices immediately or anytime soon is blowing smoke,” Schwarzenegger said. “To look for new ways to feed our addiction (to oil) is not the answer.”
Conservative senators blocked a Medicare bill yesterday, meaning that doctors will “face a 10 percent cut in Medicare payments next week.” The bill averting the cuts overwhelmingly passed the House Tuesday, in a 355-59 vote.
“Barack Obama will travel to Iraq and Afghanistan before the Democratic convention in August, Democratic sources tell CBS News. Earlier today, Obama spoke to Iraqi president, Jalal Talabani, and told Talabani he will be visiting the war zone soon.”
On the trail today: Sen. John McCain will hold “an employee town hall meeting at 10:30 a.m. Friday at the General Motors Lordstown Assembly Plant in Warren.” Sens. Barack Obama (D-IL) and Hillary Clinton (D-NY) hold a “Unite for Change” rally Friday at Unity Elementary School in Unity, N.H.
The Senate yesterday approved at $162 billion war spending plan, which includes “a doubling of GI Bill college benefits for troops and veterans” and “a 13-week extension of unemployment benefits and $2.7 billion in emergency flood relief for the Midwest.” The bill now heads to President Bush for his signature.
According to research done by Faith In Public Life, James Dobson’s attack on Barack Obama was mentioned a total of 189 times on CNN, MSNBC, and Fox News yesterday. By comparison, a new Pew Survey “documenting the diversity and tolerance of people of faith and the growing consensus around issues like poverty and the environment” was mentioned only 8 times.
Oil prices reached a record high of $140 yesterday, which, combined with “mounting anxiety over the health of such disparate industries as banking, auto manufacturing and technology,” sent the Dow Jones industrial average “tumbling by 3 percent to its lowest level in almost two years.”
Yesterday the Supreme Court struck down the so-called Millionaires Amendment, which imposed special rules for wealthy political candidate financing their own campaigns. The 5-4 decision said the law forced wealthy candidates to “choose between the First Amendment right to engage in unfettered political speech and subjection to discriminatory fund-raising limitations.”
And finally: Senate Appropriations Committee chairman Robert Byrd (D-WV) was in high spirits yesterday. He was “wheeled into the hearing room just before the start of a committee markup” and bellowed, “Hello, folks!” to the packed room. People then cheered when he yelled, “Applause, applause, applause!” Seeing Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) walk in, he welcomed her with, “Hello there, darling Dianne” and began singing, “Diaaaanne, oooh Dianne!” He also pointed out the “growth” on Sen. Pete Domenici’s (R-NM) face.
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It’s a shame that Medicare payments to doctors is going to get cut 10% because of obstructionist repuglycans.
Seniors, please help us vote these pricks out of office.
Thank you.
June 27th, 2008 at 9:04 amPolar scientists say that “for the first time in human history, ice is on course to disappear entirely from the North Pole this year.” The scientists “believe the chances of a totally ice-free North Pole this summer are greater than 50:50 because the normally thick ice formed over many years at the Pole has been blown away and replaced by huge wathes of thinner ice formed over a single year.”
Conservatives are blaming this on “La Nina”. What excuse do they use next year, as El Nino/La Nina is a once every 7 years phenominon?
June 27th, 2008 at 9:05 amER,,, is=are, God I hate the smell of bad grammar in the morning…
June 27th, 2008 at 9:05 amConservative senators blocked a Medicare bill yesterday, meaning that doctors will “face a 10 percent cut in Medicare payments next week.” The bill averting the cuts overwhelmingly passed the House Tuesday, in a 355-59 vote.
I still haven’t heard anyone explain why Republicans are blocking bills, but Democrats are not. If this tactic is acceptable, then the war funding, FISA and the Patriot Act should all be in bill limbo!
June 27th, 2008 at 9:06 amConservative senators blocked a Medicare bill yesterday, meaning that doctors will “face a 10 percent cut in Medicare payments next week.”
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Why do these senators hate the elderly?
June 27th, 2008 at 9:09 amInformation only found via the British press:
US wars have helped al-Qa’eda, says report
The Senlis Council, which has an extensive network of researchers in Afghanistan, Iraq and Somalia, said frustration with war and unemployment was underpinning the insurgency against western forces.
A survey conducted in Iraq last month found that 46% of young men said they were “angry all the time”.
“The unstable and increasingly angry populations of these countries need to hear why they can live in a stable and prosperous future,” she said. “Otherwise they are very vulnerable to violent recruitment by violent groups.”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iraq/2199469/US-wars-have-helped-al-Qa%5C‘eda,-says-report.html
June 27th, 2008 at 9:10 amCalifornia Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger (R-CA) said John McCain is “blowing smoke” about the impact of offshore oil drilling. “Anyone who tells you that this will bring down our gas prices immediately or anytime soon is blowing smoke,”
And yet Arnie was campaigning with McSame the other day in California.
June 27th, 2008 at 9:12 amPolar scientists say that “for the first time in human history, ice is on course to disappear entirely from the North Pole this year.”
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Not only will there be a race among industrialized nations to drill for oil in the previously inaccessible Arctic, but I’m sure commercial developers are looking at the area as the next tourist spot — complete with floating luxury resorts…
June 27th, 2008 at 9:13 ammisshusseinmolly Says: Why do these senators hate the elderly?
What I find interesting is the number of Conservatives who despise government run programs, but work for the military, post office, government in general (such as politicians), or public education system.
My former Principal actually went off on why socialism would never work, utterly failing to recognize that she’d spent 25 years of her life in socialized education.
June 27th, 2008 at 9:13 amPolar scientists say that “for the first time in human history, ice is on course to disappear entirely from the North Pole this year.”
Something that wasn’t predicted to happen until about 2020 previously and has some scientist freaking because things are accelerating and compounding.
June 27th, 2008 at 9:16 am“Barack Obama will travel to Iraq and Afghanistan before the Democratic convention in August, Democratic sources tell CBS News. Earlier today, Obama spoke to Iraqi president, Jalal Talabani, and told Talabani he will be visiting the war zone soon.”
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Just keep your BS detector on full alert, Senator. You’re likely to get a dog-and-pony presentation, plus you will be permitted to talk to carefully vetted members of our military who can be counted on to tell you how we’re “winning”.
June 27th, 2008 at 9:17 amunbelievable Says
June 27th, 2008 at 9:13 am
My former Principal actually went off on why socialism would never work, utterly failing to recognize that she’d spent 25 years of her life in socialized education.
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She probably never realized that she drove on socialized roads to get to her job, either.
June 27th, 2008 at 9:18 amCNN’s Electoral Map: Two states shift to Obama
(CNN) — Two more states have shifted to Barack Obama’s column in the new CNN Electoral Map that charts the candidates’ strength leading up to the November election.
“Toss-up” states Minnesota and Wisconsin were re-designated to “Lean-Obama” Friday, giving the presumptive Democratic nominee another 20 electoral votes in CNN’s current estimate. The Illinois senator now has 231 electoral votes — 39 shy of winning the nomination.
CNN made the change after new polling conducted by Quinnipiac University showed that Obama holds double-digit leads over presumptive Republican nominee John McCain in both states. CNN’s analysis estimates McCain has 194 electoral votes.
This is only a CNN estimate and is likely to change many more times in the lead up to the election.
The Quinnipiac surveys, released Thursday, showed Obama with a 17-point lead in Minnesota, 54-37 percent, and a 13 point lead in Wisconsin, 52-39 percent.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/06/27/cnns-electoral-map-two-states-shift-to-obama/
June 27th, 2008 at 9:20 amAccording to research done by Faith In Public Life, James Dobson’s attack on Barack Obama was mentioned a total of 189 times on CNN, MSNBC, and Fox News yesterday. By comparison, a new Pew Survey “documenting the diversity and tolerance of people of faith and the growing consensus around issues like poverty and the environment” was mentioned only 8 times.
Clicking through to the AP article about Dobson will evoke eerie connections for TP regulars — Obama is criticizing Dobson for acting just like Daryll, selectively quoting from the OT when convenient and dismissing inconvenient OT laws (slavery, shellfish) as “expired.” Pretty funny. And Dobson sounds just as ridiculous as Daryll in his response.
June 27th, 2008 at 9:21 ammisshusseinmolly Says: She probably never realized that she drove on socialized roads to get to her job, either.
Good point.
Or realized that she drank water from socialized pipes, used socialized mail, went to a college funded by socialized subsidies, etc. For someone with a PhD, she wasn’t terribly bright. Was always parroting other successful people, and never had an original thought of her own, in true neocon fashion.
June 27th, 2008 at 9:23 amConservative senators blocked a Medicare bill yesterday, meaning that doctors will “face a 10 percent cut in Medicare payments next week.” The bill averting the cuts overwhelmingly passed the House Tuesday, in a 355-59 vote.
Why bill can’t the Democrats block the FISA bill?
Oh, yeah, because Reid will just ignore a block, like he did with Dodd’s hold on the first round of giving immunity to lawbreakers.
Why does Reid honor Republinut holds while screwing his own party members over?
June 27th, 2008 at 9:24 amConservative senators blocked a Medicare bill yesterday, meaning that doctors will “face a 10 percent cut in Medicare payments next week.”
In other words the Republicans threatened to filibuster the bill and the Democrats said, “Oh well”. Why do the Democrats roll over and play dead like that? Why don’t they make the Republicans read the phone book for days to enforce their filibuster?
Bush has been doing this to Medicare ever since he came to office. He is starving the doctors and hospitals to force Medicare patients to purchase the add-on insurance offered by the for-profit insurance companies just to get basic medical care.
Hopefully this is one of the first things that Obama will fix.
June 27th, 2008 at 9:26 amunbelievable Says
June 27th, 2008 at 9:10 am
US wars have helped al-Qa’eda, says report
A survey conducted in Iraq last month found that 46% of young men said they were “angry all the time”.
“The unstable and increasingly angry populations of these countries need to hear why they can live in a stable and prosperous future,” she said. “Otherwise they are very vulnerable to violent recruitment by violent groups.”
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And this is exactly the way Bushco likes it. This entire administration depends upon being “at war” in order to keep the populace in a state of fear and to advance their nefarious agenda. And in order to keep the war running, they have to have an evil boogeyman to fight.
We have been the greatest recruiting tool Al Qaeda and other violent groups have ever seen. The anger of the young men in Iraq and other ME countries fuels the boogeyman, which gets trotted out as often as possible to ramp up our fear. And we can kill enough to be able to claim we’re “winning” without vanquishing the entire beast.
June 27th, 2008 at 9:27 amAnd the AMA continues to support Repugnicans because…?
June 27th, 2008 at 9:28 amAt last!
Housing bill, FISA delayed until after July recess
Objections by Sen. Russ Feingold (D-Wis.) will push back an overhaul of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) until after lawmakers return in July, Democratic leaders said Thursday. Feingold is strongly opposed to language that would likely give telephone companies that participated in warrantless surveillance retroactive immunity from lawsuits.
http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/housing-bill-fisa-delayed-until-after-july-recess-2008-06-26.html
June 27th, 2008 at 9:28 amgummitch Says
June 27th, 2008 at 9:21 am
Clicking through to the AP article about Dobson will evoke eerie connections for TP regulars — Obama is criticizing Dobson for acting just like Daryll, selectively quoting from the OT when convenient and dismissing inconvenient OT laws (slavery, shellfish) as “expired.” Pretty funny. And Dobson sounds just as ridiculous as Daryll in his response.
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Dobson DOES sound as ridiculous as Daryll, but the sad thing is that some people listen to Dobson and take him seriously. Whereas we all know that Daryll is a parodist and a performance artist. And it’s especially entertaining whenever we manage to get both Daryll and bitblt in the same thread.
June 27th, 2008 at 9:31 amYesterday the Supreme Court struck down the so-called Millionaires Amendment, which imposed special rules for wealthy political candidate financing their own campaigns.
The Supremes think it is just fine for people to buy political office. Call me shocked…
June 27th, 2008 at 9:33 ammisshusseinmolly Says: We have been the greatest recruiting tool Al Qaeda and other violent groups have ever seen. The anger of the young men in Iraq and other ME countries fuels the boogeyman, which gets trotted out as often as possible to ramp up our fear. And we can kill enough to be able to claim we’re “winning” without vanquishing the entire beast.
The self-fulfilling prophesies of the Bush regime have definietly done more to undermine peaceful relations in the middle east than to help them, as is habitually claimed for being there.
What I don’t get is why we don’t have ‘victory’ in Iraq yet if our military is so powerful. Doesn’t say much about the quality of our military leaders if they cannot defeat these civilian armies…
June 27th, 2008 at 9:33 amSenator Richard J. Durbin of Illinois, the Democratic whip, said: “Who supports this bill? Doctors, consumer groups, pharmacists, hospitals. Who opposes this bill? The health insurance industry and the White House.”
In summary, who benefits? Big Pharma (as the rich get richer).
Who loses? Those that provide the service.
Who pays the ultimate price: The consumer (especially the elderly).
There is a reason why Congress has a such a damn low approval rating, and it’s not all about the Dems. Having the Repugs block such an important bill that would benefit the little man (patients and providers) is fcking ridiculous. America, I HOPE YOU ARE PAYING ATTENTION, especially with the upcoming elections.
June 27th, 2008 at 9:35 amYeah, I’m pissed!
unbelievable Says:
Conservatives are blaming this on “La Nina”. What excuse do they use next year, as El Nino/La Nina is a once every 7 years phenomena?
It will be Bill Clinton’s fault.
June 27th, 2008 at 9:37 amInteresting:
June 27th, 2008 at 9:38 am
While the elderly are being thrown to the winds, the wealthy are buying multi-million dollar paintings according to CNN this morning. Dick and George have accomplished what they set out to do in 2000. In Houston wealthy oilmen are living in the lap of luxury. Recession in the rest of the USA. Texas…oil$$…Dick…George. It all adds up, doesn’t it? And in just a few months Dick and George will curl right up in that lap of luxury.
June 27th, 2008 at 9:39 amWayne Says:
Why does Reid honor Republinut holds while screwing his own party members over?
I think this one was a threatened filibuster, not a hold by one Republican. Be that as it may, I think the Democrats should stop allowing the Republicans to get away with their “filibuster threats” and make them actually filibuster bills. The Republicans will get tired of that pretty quickly. I sure do wish there was some way we could get rid of most of the Democrats in the Senate. Unfortunately we will have to vote for Republicans in order to do that. Hopefully next time there will be people willing to challenge the sitting Senators in a primary. It will be nice to send them a message by voting for their opponent.
June 27th, 2008 at 9:39 amshoeless Says: It will be Bill Clinton’s fault.
Ah, yes, of course. And Al Gore’s. They like shooting messengers…
June 27th, 2008 at 9:40 amConservative senators blocked a Medicare bill yesterday, meaning that doctors will “face a 10 percent cut in Medicare payments next week.” The bill averting the cuts overwhelmingly passed the House Tuesday, in a 355-59 vote.
Is there an article or amendment in the constitution — something — that disqualifies people intent on destroying America from election to any form of office, that we failed to notice? Something?
June 27th, 2008 at 9:40 amMy community is among the many with doctors refusing to see Medicare patients, because of Medicare’s low rate of reimbursement. The Senate’s vote not to cancel a scheduled cut in reimbursement to doctors will surely result in more people who depend on Medicare being turned away. What the Hell do Senators care? They have their own gold-plated healthcare plan not available to ordinary folks.
But don’t get the idea that Medicare is stingy in all cases: The NYTimes reported in a June 25, 2008 editorial: “According to federal officials, Medicare currently pays $1,825 for a hospital bed that can be bought online for $754, and $4,023 for a power wheelchair that can be bought online for $2,174.” The Times says intense lobbying is responsible for such Medicare generosity.
We have the best government that money can buy, and if old folks can’t get the care they were promised…TS.
June 27th, 2008 at 9:43 amunbelievable Says:
Conservatives are blaming this on “La Nina”. What excuse do they use next year, as El Nino/La Nina is a once every 7 years phenomena?
If Obama gets elected President, the terrorists will melt all the ice.
June 27th, 2008 at 9:43 amAfter-Tax Incomes Show Big Gains
(WASHINGTON) — The millions of economic stimulus payments gave a massive jolt to household finances in May, sending after-tax incomes up by the largest amount in 33 years.
The payments helped boost consumer spending by the largest amount in six months.
The administration is hoping that the $106.7 billion in stimulus payments being made this year to 130 million households will be enough to offset serious drags on the economy at the moment from a prolonged housing slump, a severe credit crisis and soaring energy bills.
However, economists are worried that the boost from the stimulus checks will be only temporary and once the checks are spent, the risks of the economy falling into a deep recession will rise.
http://www.time.com/time/business/article/0,8599,1818422,00.html
June 27th, 2008 at 9:44 amYou got it! We’re being played by the Democratic party. Their goal is not to serve “We the People” but to get power for themselves. Our “two party” system has devolved into a “good cop/bad cop” routine with both parties working towards the same end.
Thus far, conditions for a revolution haven’t been met.
June 27th, 2008 at 9:47 amBriseadh na Faire Says: Thus far, conditions for a revolution haven’t been met.
People dying en masse? If food prices become unaffordable…
June 27th, 2008 at 9:51 amMore innocent blood on our nation’s conscience and sample of the horror the neocons are planning for Iran.
http://www.gulf-daily-news.com/Story.asp?Article=221312&Sn=WORL&IssueID=31098
June 27th, 2008 at 9:51 amSupreme Court struck down the so-called Millionaires Amendment
Satirizing the court in light of its current makeup and depressing rulings is the only way to cope at this point.
I propose a name change to the U.S. Nacho Supreme Court. Might add to its luster, who knows.
June 27th, 2008 at 9:53 am#34 BnF, I was about to post a similar response and read your’s..Since you are so much better than I am in this area I will just say Thank you and I agree..Blessings
June 27th, 2008 at 9:57 amLast night’s News Hour welcomed back Jim Lehrer. He’s going to be working part time for awhile. One of the first stories was a quote from John Bolt-on regarding the agreement with N. Korea.
Bolt-on: “This is a sign of the final collapse of the Bush foreign policy“.
Is it not telling that the only relatively successful act of diplomacy carried out by Bushco is viewed as a “collapse”?
June 27th, 2008 at 9:57 amBolton is just mad because, despite his herculean efforts, he may not be able to bring about Armageddon before Jan. 21, 2009.
June 27th, 2008 at 10:08 amOne small item rarely ever mentioned on these site’s is the fact there are only 54 red wolf left in out south west state’s…..Like the senior’s and many other’s this government want’s to make extinct the are 54 away from being gone forever…Defender’s of Wild life sent me an email awhile ago about this..Think my fact’s are straight, contribute to these group’s if you can…Blessings
June 27th, 2008 at 10:12 am“Barack Obama will travel to Iraq and Afghanistan before the Democratic convention in August, Democratic sources tell CBS News. Earlier today, Obama spoke to Iraqi president, Jalal Talabani, and told Talabani he will be visiting the war zone soon.”
Why? So he can change his position on Iraq too, like he did on FISA?
http://progressiveworldreview.com
June 27th, 2008 at 10:18 amBriseadh na Faire Says:
Thus far, conditions for a revolution haven’t been met.
June 27th, 2008 at 9:47 am
One wonders exactly what it will take.
June 27th, 2008 at 10:19 amA small correction Witch1. The Red Wolf are in the South East. One of the Carolinas I believe. I also think they were once thought extinct and were rediscovered. On a related note.
There was a great show on the local PBS station about the recovery of the Great Lakes and some of the new issues faced there. It was a fantastic reminder that we humans can fix some of the damage we do on a fairly large scale. We just might figure out how to fix things globally.
June 27th, 2008 at 10:21 amHell, Idaho has started a “wolf season.”
Can you believe that?
June 27th, 2008 at 10:26 amPaul W Says: Why? So he can change his position on Iraq too, like he did on FISA?
The inherent danger of going back on your word – loss of trust.
June 27th, 2008 at 10:26 amZooey Says:
Hell, Idaho has started a “wolf season.”
Can you believe that?
June 27th, 2008 at 10:26 am
Yep. The Gray Wolf, or Timber Wolf, is making a comeback.
June 27th, 2008 at 10:35 amCan we get a few climate disruption skeptics in here please?
June 27th, 2008 at 10:38 amCorrection’s, Thank you Pete…I was incorrect, mixing to source’s and 2 type’s of wolve’s….There are 52 wolve’s left in New Mexico…Read awhile back there were few of the Red one’s left also….Not enough coffee I guess….It seem’s there is still open season in many areas’…The big corprate rancher’s don’t think it’s good enough to get replacement cost of a few cattle they would much rather kill off all the wolve’s…It still pisses me off how cheaply they get their grazing right’s for the cattle that ruin all the stream bed’s and make it an ugly treck in the wood’s…Blessings
June 27th, 2008 at 10:44 am” U.S. handover of Iraqi province delayed indefinitely due to ‘weather’”
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080627/wl_nm/iraq_dc_26;_ylt=AkH9KZR9GeGWSy131PtPIYQUewgF
has nothing to do with the suicide bomber who took out 20 us allied sheiks, 3 us soldiers, and a mayor a few days ago, im sure..
the surge is working indeed..
June 27th, 2008 at 10:46 amQuick Question, Last night there was a thread here about Feingold causing a delay in the Fisa vote yet today there is a piece over at HuffPo bassically saying it’s over.
Am I missing something?
June 27th, 2008 at 10:46 amLook! It’s a photo of John Bolton’s family reunion!
June 27th, 2008 at 11:04 amZooey Says:
Hell, Idaho has started a “wolf season.”
Can you believe that?
It is a tribute to the species that they went from zero wolves in the Panhandle Rockies only 20 years ago to several flourishing packs scattered across the Bitteroots.
I am not a game management guy, but I tend to have a fair amount of respect for Fish and Game in these parts. If they say the population can support a limited hunt – and I assume it is a lottery thing, similar to moose – then I would take them at their word.
June 27th, 2008 at 11:09 amHey – has anyone heard anymore about BATF raiding Blackwater HQ yesterday?
June 27th, 2008 at 11:10 ampete Says:
More innocent blood on our nation’s conscience and sample of the horror the neocons are planning for Iran.
http://www.gulf-daily-news.com/ Story.asp?Article=221312&Sn=WORL&IssueID=31098
Morning, Pete. You’re up early.
It’s very sad how stories like these just fly under the radar. If someone here in the US had bombed and killed 4 innocent American children we’d be up in arms (literally) ready to bomb another country. But the public and our media callously glosses over their deaths.
June 27th, 2008 at 11:10 amZooey, when are we going to get a ‘neocon’ season?
June 27th, 2008 at 11:22 amWhen Cheny is pissed and Byrd is happy things must be going our way.
You would think that someone with the kind of health coverage that pete has that he would do something about that nasty thing on his face. It would be different if he couldn’t afford it like most Americans.
June 27th, 2008 at 11:49 amRUCerious, I’m ready,….Do I need to get a licence and tag’s? How many is the bag limit.? Can I sign up for all the special hunt’s.?..Wahoo….Reminder to self when they declare open season take extra vitamin’s and get lot’s of rest…LOL….Blessings
June 27th, 2008 at 11:54 amCan’t someone just post a link to some discredited group claiming to prove climate disruption is a nonissue?
June 27th, 2008 at 12:07 pmKeltoi is too busy celebrating wolf killing to get around to climate change debunking. Give him time.
June 27th, 2008 at 12:12 pmTrue, maybe not immediate price relief. However, how does not creating more oil solve the problem of not having enough oil?
June 27th, 2008 at 12:19 pmIntermittant sniper fire with a chance of IED’s.
June 27th, 2008 at 12:28 pmgunclinger:
June 27th, 2008 at 12:28 pmHave you considered the other end of Father Guido Sarducci’s five minute university economics degree. Use less. Demand goes down, price goes down.
WichyOne ~ Open season from now till November 4. Shotguns only, aim for the face. You may use depleted uranium shells.
June 27th, 2008 at 12:52 pmBNF@#63…. That would be funny if it weren’t so damn true!
June 27th, 2008 at 12:53 pmNice.
http://tpzoo.wordpress.com/2008/06/27/conditions-precedent-to-a-revolution/
(I tried posting here, but the internet ate my homework)
June 27th, 2008 at 12:59 pmgunclinger Says:
True, maybe not immediate price relief. However, how does not creating more oil solve the problem of not having enough oil?
They don’t need more leases. They can drill right now. US oil companies are not using 3/4 of their current leases. Add to that the fact that there is not enough oil transports to move the oil from the offshore derricks… and they haven’t added anymore refinery capacity (which they could have easily done while the R’s had control of the gov’t for 6 years).
June 27th, 2008 at 1:02 pmWho told you there was a shortage. Did you, do you think the high cost is because of a shortage….wrong. Do you see any lines at gas stations.
June 27th, 2008 at 1:02 pmThank’s RUCerious. That new 12 gauge double barell side by will work great…Any idea where i can get that ammo?…LOL…
For some reason many poster’s, troll’s in particular seem to think the oil companie’s need more leases..Fact is the oil companies already hold thousand’s of leases they haven’t used yet..The lates’t bunch of hooie is repeated over and oever again in hope’s this administration can secure more land grab’s for their bloated friend’s in the oil business..Hell, they have even been eyeing all our park’s and wild land’s..
Any one believing everything any agency say’s even Fish and Wild life need’s to take a closer look…Regarding stream’s, grazig, wolf recovery and yes the timber industry all thing are relative and not well handled..All of our system’s need over sight….There are no job well done plaques hanging on the stumps of trees or tagged on wolf pelt’s….Haven’t been any in many year’s..Blessings
June 27th, 2008 at 1:11 pmSo, if Democratic legislators are changing their FISA vote in consideration of “campaign contributions”, isn’t there a word for that? (Sounds like they learned well from those Republican legislators like Duke Cunningham, et al.)
How many telecommunications companies were in attendance at the joint Obama/Clinton fundraiser, you s’pose?
A person just might become cynical, after awhile….
June 27th, 2008 at 1:17 pmjudyinnm Says:
We thought we were cynical about it before raygun but we have been shown that we really had no idea how bad it could be……now we know.
give me back the cynicysm of the 60’s any day. I’ll never complain again.
June 27th, 2008 at 1:21 pmYea, but what do you hear from conservatives? That this warming is natural. Bulllll crap. There is no way in hell this warming is natural when the fastest warmth we ever had in the past was a 5 degree increase in 10,000 years. (The Weather Makers by Tim Flannery). The pseudo-conservatives want us to believe it’s natural with their oil/coal paid propaganda so they can get maximize profits in the short term before Americans go “Heyyyy wait a minute!”.
Judging by all the recent weather events and all the unusual events happening around the world, I would say global warming is happening at a faster rate then we predicted and this could serious put our species at dangerous risk.
June 27th, 2008 at 1:21 pmMaybe the Supreme Court believes we need more guns in the hands of citizens to fight the spread of fascism in this country as propagated by Bushco. Either that or they’re nucking futz.
June 27th, 2008 at 1:46 pm