Cheney ‘tried to block North Korea nuclear deal.’
Cheney ‘tried to block North Korea nuclear deal.’
Earlier this week, the Bush administration the Bush administration announced that it was taking North Korea off the State Department’s list of state sponsors of terrorism after the country declared its nuclear program to the outside world. Vice President Dick Cheney has not hid his disapproval of the move. Now, the Telegraph reports that Cheney tried to block the deal before it happened:
Vice President Dick Cheney fought furiously to block efforts by Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice to strike a controversial US compromise deal with North Korea over the communist state’s nuclear programme, the Telegraph has learned.
“The exchanges between Cheney’s office and Rice’s people at State got very testy. But ultimately Condi had the President’s ear and persuaded him that his legacy would be stronger if they reached a deal with Pyongyang,” said a Pentagon adviser who was briefed on the battle.
On Friday, the New York Times described the North Korea deal as the State Department’s win in a “major battle against the Cheney camp.”
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Let me see if I understand this…
The deal is approved not on its merits, but largely because “… [Secretary Rice] persuaded [the President] that his legacy would be stronger if they reached a deal with Pyongyang.”
It’s really always been ‘about him,’ hasn’t it? How can even 25% find something to support in the conduct of this self-serving, narcissistic fool we collectively elected to once, but twice? We a doomed…
June 28th, 2008 at 3:37 pmrodgers Says:
So what, the deal happened.
Yep, and it was Bill Richardson who accomplished it, that is one of the things Darth is so pissed about.
June 28th, 2008 at 3:41 pmMore proof that Cheney doesn’t want peace and is murderous blood thirsty vile pig.
June 28th, 2008 at 3:42 pmIf anything, it shows that if you get nukes, you have more leverage to get your demands.
Way to go Bush, let them get the nukes first, before negotiating…what a great legacy indeed.
June 28th, 2008 at 3:42 pmOops. That should have read “…collectively elected NOT once, but twice?”
Is the throne itself vacant? There apparently exists an evil chamberlain, a conniving foreign minister, and a court jester. Fool me once…
June 28th, 2008 at 3:43 pmDROP DEAD soon, Dick!
Take TRAITOR Bush WITH you.
To your new home with your MASTER Satan and Traitor Ronnie Reagan, now DEAD and BURNING for ETERNITY for his GENOCIDE.
June 28th, 2008 at 3:49 pmrodgers Says:
upside99 Says:
billy who?.
Are you really this ignorant or are you trying to be funny?
Either answer is a loser. K?
June 28th, 2008 at 3:49 pmrodgers Says:
billy who?.
Wow, are you really that ignorant?
I am surprised you can type a coherent sentence.
June 28th, 2008 at 3:51 pmOh, wait…. you can’t type a coherent sentence.
never mind
rodgers Says:
upside99 Says:
billy who?.
Bill Richardson. A PATRIOT, a REAL American.
EVERYTHING the OPPOSITE of TRAITORS Cheney, Bush and Reagan, now DEAD and BURNING for ETERNITY!!
June 28th, 2008 at 3:51 pmDickie is so pissed at George he might take him hunting.
June 28th, 2008 at 3:57 pmHey Rog2, let us know if you need any help finding info on Bill R. and on N. Korea, OK?
June 28th, 2008 at 3:59 pmThe troll shows his true (lack) of thinking skills when he supports a deal with North Korea not based on a clear foreign policy strategy in the Bush administration, but crafted to strengthen Bush’s so-called legacy.
That is, if you had any doubt that the troll is a Bush personality cult follower.
June 28th, 2008 at 3:59 pmrogerse,
You have demonstrated, beyond any reasonable doubt, time and again, that you have no idea what you are talking about.
Whether current affairs, US history, geography, English grammar -pick your topic.
You speculation on what I would have said or done if, is no exception.
June 28th, 2008 at 4:13 pm15. rodgers Says:
and if the deal wasn’t approved, you’d still complain.
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About what? About th’ Axis o’ Evillll?
Wall, we’re all anti-Axis Americans. Why SHOULDN’T we b!tch ’bout deal-making with terr’ists?
We don’t TALK to’em — remember?
June 28th, 2008 at 4:15 pmAnd what is so interesting about this thread, isn’t that the deal was done, but WHY it was done (of course, with no mention of Bill Richardson by the WH). AND the fact that diplomacy actually works, which is a blow to the BOMB BOMB Iran school of thought(lessness). AND the fact that Darth got so pissed about it. That alone will be worth watching.
June 28th, 2008 at 4:19 pmrodgers Says:
Gregor Samsa Says:
and if the deal wasn’t approved, you’d still complain.
DROP DEAD soon, TRAITORS Cheney and Bush.
For the GOOD OF THE USA and the WORLD.
Join your MASTER Satan, and TRAITOR Ronnie Reagan, now DEAD and BURNING for ETERNITY!
June 28th, 2008 at 4:20 pmDeadeye Dick don’t want no reviews when he shoots a old guy in the face.
Let’s have another martini.
June 28th, 2008 at 4:23 pmFirst of all, anything you hear from Bush, Cheney, Condi, etc. is a LIE.
When has Bush done anything for the American people? We’ve seen his evil Fascist policy’s strictly benefit wealthy cooperations and his own ego infested legacy.
June 28th, 2008 at 4:23 pmBut THEY have the KNOWLEDGE to make nukular weapons, which is supposed to be enough for W to “keep all options on the table”, i.e. send in the bombers and missiles when he needs an adrenaline rush.
June 28th, 2008 at 4:25 pmThat’s the standard he set for Iran anyway.
Nice to see him contradict Cheney, though.
22. rodgers Says:
Yup, forget what happened, just its merits.
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Like th’ neocon/Bushista Iraq disaster.
June 28th, 2008 at 4:25 pmFlag racist_rog. She’s just taking this thread off-topic and drawing attention to herself.
June 28th, 2008 at 4:29 pmrodgers Says:
hey r, since you seem to want to hang out where you’re not wanted. Why don’t you explain why bush abandoned talks with North Korea. They had stopped all acitivity and the UN verified that they had stopped their nuclear activities.
shortly after bush reversed our treaty with N. Korea they started up again and now they have nukes…..how’s that sound when you put it in perspective.
Now we’re right back where we were before bush came along, except the N Koreans have leverage that they did not have before…..bombs.
Same with the stock market fool. We are just about where we were when bush took over except for the lost lives and treasury…..thanks fool, you are responsible for that.
June 28th, 2008 at 4:32 pmLet’s not forget this is the second time the Bush administration claims diplomacy works, Libya being the first.
In both cases, the Bush administration had to deal with countries with an ongoing nuclear weapons program, and that supposedly had terrorism-sponsoring regimes.
So, IMHO this situation highlights that 1) diplomacy works, 2) Iraq is a war of choice, 3) American military presence in the MiddleEast is to secure oil resources, 4) George Bush is very concerned with how things look (read opinion polls) in spite of his claims to the contrary, and 5) he still has hopes that he will be redeemed by history. Fat chance on that last one.
June 28th, 2008 at 4:34 pmI forgot to mention:
That the Bush administration does talk to terrorists after all.
June 28th, 2008 at 4:37 pmI say HA HA….the end of darth didn’t come by heart attack after all.
June 28th, 2008 at 4:40 pmSupreme Leader Dick ‘tried to block North Korea nuclear deal.’
Well, there goes the bubble-in-chief’s last result for a so called legacy, thanks to President Cheney. Now, people can see who is really running the White House for 7 1/2 years.
“The exchanges between Cheney’s office and Rice’s people at State got very testy”
And this tells you that Darth Cheney had taken over shoe shopping Girlfriday’s job as National Security Adviser and Secretary of State from the get go.
June 28th, 2008 at 4:44 pmTheRight,
Are you now entrenched in your basement bunker with all your assault rifles, waiting for the N. Koreans to come get you? Or maybe all those turrsts from Iraq that BushCo has created? Or maybe that a man of (non-white) color will be your new CiC?
Any of those sound familiar?
June 28th, 2008 at 4:44 pmBut ultimately Condi had the President’s ear and persuaded him that his legacy would be stronger if they reached a deal with Pyongyang,”
So, it is Bush’s legacy that is important? Who would have known.
June 28th, 2008 at 4:45 pmTheRight Says:
upside99 Says:
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TheRight,
Are you now entrenched in your basement bunker with all your assault rifles, waiting for the N. Koreans to come get you? Or maybe all those turrsts from Iraq that BushCo has created? Or maybe that a man of (non-white) color will be your new CiC?
Any of those sound familiar?
More insults. Yay!
Not insults, just questions. Which of those are insults or or incorrect?
June 28th, 2008 at 4:50 pmThis statement is rich with ignorance….thanks for saying that. What happened, did you get pissed and finally show your hand?
June 28th, 2008 at 4:50 pmLet’s see what MSM has on the news… from cnn.com
Latest News
* Malaysian opposition leader accused of sodomy
* Bush wants more penalties for Zimbabwe
* CNNMoney: How Obama would tax wealth
* Child prostitutes sell themselves on Craigslist
* McCain, Obama court Latino voters
* Ticker: Obama forced to flash ID
Not a hint of this story…
June 28th, 2008 at 4:51 pmThis is the same deal that Clinton had worked out back when bush first left office. minus the nukes that n korea built once bush reneged on the Clinton deal. Way to go george. If only we could just start over with everything and pretend that bush never happened….
June 28th, 2008 at 4:52 pmgeez, ya come here and sling shit and snot in our faces and won’t discuss anything and then you are suddenly the victim? It’s an old formula. We see trolls trying it all the time.
June 28th, 2008 at 4:53 pmYou never pointed out in my post at June 28th, 2008 at 4:50 pm , what was an insult or was incorrect.
Sh!t or get off the keyboard, Dude.
June 28th, 2008 at 4:54 pm34. TheRight Says:
Peace Through Strength. More Guns, Less Crime.
Death Through Gabbing About Nothing. More Regressives, More Crime. Criminals are victims. The victims are to blame.
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Oh, goody. Spared a week’s worth of swastika-radio drooling points.
Thanx, ace.
June 28th, 2008 at 4:55 pmand in response he says:
Go Away! flagged for off topic, again.
June 28th, 2008 at 4:56 pmYou wish. I guess Jimmy Carter didn’t have anything to do with the recent peace accord between israel and palestine either, right.
Oh by the way. I keep responding to you with real responses but you just keep insulting, why?
June 28th, 2008 at 5:01 pmTheRight Says:
… Bush’s 6 party talks got this done….
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Pfui. Bush don’t talk to no one, let alone 6 parties. Said so himself. Callin’ th’ Pretzeldent a liar, are ye?
June 28th, 2008 at 5:02 pmY’all,
TheRight reminds me of several past trolls whose desire to defend their own unabated stupidity in public just served to make the RePugniScums look more useless with each and every post.
Please…Mr or Ms. TheRight,
Please keep posting here…It’s makes it so much easier to remove more RePugniScums in NOvember…That’s right!!!
NOvember!!!
NOvember!!!
No, No, NOvember!!!
I flipping you the bird too!!!!
June 28th, 2008 at 5:03 pmI see we have a new troll to deal with. I’m reading the posts and the troll seems as confused and belligerent as always. Shows up, pushing the same old stuff - insults, no facts, lies, distraction, nonsense - all the things Cheny tells them to spew.
Feel sorry for them - our trolls. The know not what they do. As they grow older, they will realize how cowardly they appear. Scared of all sorts of things - cause bush says so.
Hey trolls….BOO! Ha Ha…
June 28th, 2008 at 5:04 pmI’ve had enough…flagged for spamming and I am done with your foolishnes. Go find some animals to torture.
June 28th, 2008 at 5:05 pmTheRight Says:
upside99 Says:
Yep, and it was Bill Richardson who accomplished it, that is one of the things Darth is so pissed about.
Another outright lie. Bush’s 6 party talks got this done. Bill Richardson played no major role.
Is that so? Read below:
June 28th, 2008 at 5:06 pmTanqueray Says:
… Can’t be dissin the Messiah….
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No? My imaginary friend is named Winkie. And HE’s th’ Messiah.
And — unlike mainstream imaginary friends — he don’t give a puke if you diss him.
HE know’s yer funny.
June 28th, 2008 at 5:10 pmJune 28th, 2008 at 5:11 pm
Another Regressive lie. Libya volunteered to give up its nuclear program because it feared it would be invaded just like Iraq was. Talking did not trigger this surrender.
~TheRight
You are wrong on two counts. Pres Bush originally claimed that Libya’s decision was a result of his “quiet diplomacy”.
Libya didn’t spontaneously give up its WMD program after Iraq was invaded: They had tried for years to get international sanctions lifted. Settling the Lockerbie mess and giving up their WMD program were all part of that strategy.
It seems someone here has a knack for spouting ignorant nonsense, and it ain’t me.
June 28th, 2008 at 5:11 pm59. TheRight Says:
You suckers pay my salary!!!
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No wonder right-wingers are all futched-up about welfare — confusin’ food stamps with salary.
June 28th, 2008 at 5:12 pmfacts trolls, we are dissapointed and bored. What happened to the good trolls. All we are left with is adolecents who didn’t finish their appreniceship.
June 28th, 2008 at 5:13 pmIts true. I work for VP Cheny. I get paid $150,000 per year of taxpayer money to post on this blog. You suckers pay my salary!!!
At least you admit you are a worse rip-off of the BushCo government than those Halliburton $70 cokes and $90 hamburgers.
Too bad the Repugs can’t do any better than the likes of you, Rog2 and Tanq. Such a lack of value for the investment of our hard-earned tax dollars.
Sigh!
June 28th, 2008 at 5:14 pmThey obviously hired them the same way they did good ole brownie and the rest of the inept in this administration. They must be someones kids. Only thing that makes any sense.
Cronies maybe??
June 28th, 2008 at 5:17 pm#58 is another OT troll (Barry? his name is Barack, show some respect a$$hole) who needs to be completely ignored!
Along with TheRight!!
June 28th, 2008 at 5:17 pmwell, at least you’re good for something I guess. Oh yeah, git out of my yard.
June 28th, 2008 at 5:18 pmTheRight Says:
… Excuse me! Did you know I won the MoveOn.org Troll of the Year award? ….
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Oh. Yeah. ‘N Bildo O’Reilly won a coupla Peabody Awards.
That’s the cool thing about right-wing awards — they’re so FLEXIBLE.
June 28th, 2008 at 5:18 pmNot true. Sorry dude.
~TheRight @ 5:13 pm
Let’s have a little refresher, shall we?
Straight out of the White House’s website:
[A]s we have found with other nations, old hostilities do not need to go on forever. And I hope that other leaders will find an example in Libya’s announcement today.
Our understanding with Libya came about through quiet diplomacy. It is a result, however, of policies and principles declared to all.
President Bush: Libya Pledges to Dismantle WMD Programs
Sorry dude, but such is reality and its liberal bias.
June 28th, 2008 at 5:20 pmjonny says:
That’s the cool thing about right-wing awards — they’re so FLEXIBLE
That is a major requirement for the Repugs. Just like for Mark Foley, Larry Craig Ted Haggard and Jeff Gannon. I guess these trolls have to pass the Flexibility test as well.
June 28th, 2008 at 5:21 pmJust flag the trolls, don’t pick up their feces and play with it. Yuck.
The TP moderators seem to have taken the day off =P
June 28th, 2008 at 5:25 pm76. upside99 Says:
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Wide-stance Larry & the Sh!tter Vitter are sponsoring a “Save-Marriage” bill.
Can the right wing GET any funnier?
June 28th, 2008 at 5:28 pmMaybe even the moderators know ineffective and weak troll dung when they see it.
Never an answer to a question, never any proof of their assertions.
Gotta be the junior varsity, with no talking points; a very sad combination. The 21%ers just keep speeding up that death spiral til they hit bottom in November.
June 28th, 2008 at 5:28 pmjonny Says:
76. upside99 Says:
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Wide-stance Larry & the Sh!tter Vitter are sponsoring a “Save-Marriage” bill.
Can the right wing GET any funnier?
I KNOW! When I first read that, I thought it was either from The Onion or a Jon Stewart monologue.
These Repugs crack me up!
June 28th, 2008 at 5:31 pmYour regressives have the best insults.
Just calling a spade a spade!
June 28th, 2008 at 5:32 pmTheRight Says:
Freedom of speech only exists for Regressives. Censorship only exists for us trolls.
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Once again, a right-wing microcephalic confuses 1A rights with gummint suppression. As if right-wing microcephalics ain’t got soapboxes. Or the 21st-century equivalent thereof.
Can and will the right wing GET any funnier?
June 28th, 2008 at 5:35 pmI get paid $150,000 per year
It’s finally sinking into my hard head — flag and don’t be so easily jumpy to the trolls. Very tough thing to do, but the best revenge is being well. The trolls will be hurting in November and are inclined to set us up to fall to their level.
Batshit GOP Trolls
June 28th, 2008 at 5:39 pmREST IN HELL
2001-2008
upside99 Says:
I KNOW! When I first read that, I thought it was either from The Onion or a Jon Stewart monologue.
These Repugs crack me up!
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Nope. it’s for real. The dirtbags even paraded their poor WIVES for the cameras. Imagine what THEY were thinking.
June 28th, 2008 at 5:41 pmTheRight:
June 28th, 2008 at 5:48 pmIt seems the goal is negative attention…
TheRight Says:
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Your guys are boring me. Cya in a few days.
Keep the insults going while I am gone.
Another looser troll checks out…no brains = I’m gone!!!!
Whoever you are (TheRight) I hope you suffer in this life beyond your current stupidity…I’m waving buh-bye at you…
But, I will admit that you are so cute on the little short orange bus…besides your brain are you otherwise physically crippled?
June 28th, 2008 at 5:52 pmjonny Says:
June 28th, 2008 at 5:35 pm
Very witty retort. Well done.
June 28th, 2008 at 5:52 pm81. TheRight Says:
… Keep the insults going while I am gone. …
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Translation: pussy is as pussy does.
June 28th, 2008 at 5:52 pmWhy has this thread degraded into an “Animal House” food fight?
June 28th, 2008 at 6:06 pmGawd damnit Faiz…I need another Troll…put up another post…I have an appetite for troll tonight…TheRight was rancid…and more shallow than a shiney fork…
June 28th, 2008 at 6:09 pmWe need more troll bait!!!!
Cheney = evil. Period.
June 28th, 2008 at 6:10 pmThe only thing that rogerse can pick is (?)his nose.
June 28th, 2008 at 6:50 pmMilitary action against North Korea is insane. N. Korea has enough artilery and conventional weaponry targeted at Soeul, to totally destroy a city of millions.
Multilateral Negotiations are the only sensible solution.
Bush and Cheney wanted Missle Defense, so they poked the North Korean hornets nest with a stick. Now they have a Nuclear Power to deal with.
Cheney, Rumsfeld, and the neocons have been at odds with Colin Powell, Rice, and the State Dept. Up until now, Bush has always gone with Cheney’s advice…resulting in our current Foreign Affairs Nightmare.
June 28th, 2008 at 7:07 pmIt must be dawning on President Bush, how wrong Cheney and the neocons have been.
Hopefully this trend towards following the advice of Defense Sec. Gates and Sec. Rice will continue, especially regarding Iran. We sure don’t need another Foreign Policy Disaster before Bush leaves office.
Why is the U.S. making nice with North Korea?
Do they have lots of oil?
June 28th, 2008 at 7:22 pmI love threads where people call each other “loosers.” Always a hoot.
June 28th, 2008 at 8:01 pmJohn McCain wanted to bomb North Korea in 2003, and (of course) also in 1994, when we were on the verge of Clinton’s historically peaceful Agreed Framework solution.
Want war? McCain’s got it!
June 28th, 2008 at 8:12 pmDaddy Love Says:
I love threads where people call each other “loosers.” Always a hoot.
Unless the reference was to trolls who have lost control of their sphincter muscle and forgot to put on a Depends resulting in them needing to head to the Bushroom to take a crap.
June 28th, 2008 at 8:24 pmCal Malenky Says:
But THEY have the KNOWLEDGE to make nukular weapons, which is supposed to be enough for W to “keep all options on the table”, i.e. send in the bombers and missiles when he needs an adrenaline rush.
That’s the standard he set for Iran anyway.
Nice to see him contradict Cheney, though.
For real! Does chimpy want to imprison their scientists too?
BTW — congress approved 170b in additional funds to Israel. Yep they want peace in the Middle East.
June 28th, 2008 at 8:55 pmNo doubt that now that Bush has “given into” Condi Rice over North Korea, Bush will now feel compelled (his idea of a compromise) to “give into” Dick Cheney’s insane foreign policy position on Iran, bombing all suspected nuclear sites inside Iran and possibly even using tactical nukes against underground sites, the first time nukes will have been used since the end of World War II, thus making Bush and Cheney worse than the crazed leaders of their so-called Axis of Evil.
As a nation, we need to keep all of our options on the table, including impeaching Bush and Cheney RIGHT NOW.
June 28th, 2008 at 9:15 pmNow if someone can either cut off the supply of puppy blood, or drive a wooden stake where it would really do some good, we’d be so much better off.
June 28th, 2008 at 9:47 pm150k my ass. Troll don’t have to be paid, they are innately stupid. It called Club Retard.
June 28th, 2008 at 10:03 pmBTW — Mandela celebrated his 90th birthday. chimpy finally took him off the terrorist list.
June 28th, 2008 at 10:16 pmAs for Rice telling W that it would improve his legacy, that’s really the only way to get through to the sociopath. It is all about Bush. The man’s ego is ridiculous.
As for Cheney, go f*** yourself. You’re not going to restart the Korean War, even though he would love to.
June 28th, 2008 at 11:03 pmHmmmm. I’ve heard plenty of rumours that Chimpy and Condi are …er, ah…an “item.”
Perhaps it was pillow talk.
Ew. I need to go wash my brain with bleach now. :o/
June 28th, 2008 at 11:54 pmNever thought I’d say this but- congratulations, Condi. You’ve earned yourself a great pair of shoes. Go shopping. Cheney, don’t forget to fall into hell and burn for eternity, you sneering bastard.
June 29th, 2008 at 1:01 am“A stronger Legacy”, my A$$!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
June 29th, 2008 at 1:37 amrepublican = insanity!
June 29th, 2008 at 8:44 amWhy be a Richard when you can be a Dick?
E Pleb Neesta
June 29th, 2008 at 8:31 pmGODISNOWHERE
Blessed are the cheese makers.