Hagel floats possibility of a new third party, says GOP has ‘come loose of its moorings.’
Hagel floats possibility of a new third party, says GOP has ‘come loose of its moorings.’
On Bloomberg TV this weekend, host Al Hunt asked Sen. Chuck Hagel (R-NE) whether he is considering changing parties. “I don’t know forever, but right now I’m not considering changing my registration,” Hagel said, while declining to endorse John McCain. He then floated the possibility that there could be a “new party” created to replace the GOP:
Parties are bigger than individuals. It happens that George Bush has been the leader of a party. I think the party has veered, and shifted, and come loose of its moorings. It’s not the party that I first voted for in 1968. I’m an Eisenhower Republican, and the party today is not an Eisenhower Republican Party.
Will it come back? I don’t know. Will we have a new party? Maybe.
Watch it:
Hagel had previously floated the idea of teaming up with New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg to forge a “bipartisan unity ticket.” He later ruled out an independent bid for the White House.
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Thought that already happened & already sh!t the bed with the Looneytarians.
Well, maybe Chuck's right -- time for another GOP waterhead baby to sh!t the bed.
June 28th, 2008 at 11:32 amIf Obama keeps taking advice from Hillary Clinton's former advisors on acting like a conservative in regard to the death penalty, FISA, and gun issues, then a valid third party (which Nader and Barr are not), could gain real momentum.
June 28th, 2008 at 11:36 amChuck Hagel sounds just like the teacher in Charlie Brown, and just as effective.
June 28th, 2008 at 11:36 amI think the party has veered, and shifted, and come loose of its moorings.
Translation: The party has lost all contact with reality, and become a fear & war mongering, science hating, Bible thumping, gay bashing, minority bashing, fascist-like personality cult for the easily led.
June 28th, 2008 at 11:38 am" . . . GOP has come loose of its moorings" by those who "conservatives" thought were "Republicans." What a con job.
June 28th, 2008 at 11:45 amThe "third party" calls are coming from Republicans disgusted by their own behavior. Any "third party" would clearly not welcome them or their kind--they have already done enough damage to America and the world.
June 28th, 2008 at 11:49 amThe last 8 or 10 years has allowed the bigoted and hateful that are inherent in the republican party to have a vocal say in the direction of the republican party.
Americans are seeing the heart of the conservative movement and it's not pretty.
Soon they will be once again, the minority opposition party which is all they are good for.
June 28th, 2008 at 11:49 amWow. Even "Reagan Republican" is falling into disfavor. It's about time something trickled down on the Republican Party.
June 28th, 2008 at 12:06 pm2. unbelievable Says:
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I'm an unregenerate anticorporatist, too, unbelievable. But -- at this point -- let's keep it real.
Plenty of time to wick the Molotov cocktails once the right wing kakks.
I'm serious. Then again, I may be the world's biggest sucker. I have been before. ;)
June 28th, 2008 at 12:08 pmTheRight Says:
as usual you are talking out of your ass..asshat. Try to make some kind of sense please. Your rhetoric cannot be backed up. All you have to do is pay attention right now to know what failures the conservatives have are, have been and walways will be.
Don't try to project your bigory and hatred onto me.
June 28th, 2008 at 12:11 pmUnbelievable,
Good afternoon (EST).
I am against a full Obama-Clinton campaign integration, but I don't want the party split. If you asked me which staffer on the Obama campaign I would like to be out, that would be Merrill McPeak, the former controversial AF Chief of Staff, who doesn't have a good reputation.
Dennis Kucinich is still the hidden gem of the democratic party.
June 28th, 2008 at 12:11 pmTheRight:
June 28th, 2008 at 12:12 pmYou don't actually believe that. Your are just trying to go over the top to kindle chatter I assume. No real person could possibly hold such simplistic and exxagerated views of complex systems
If anything, they should create a conservative party that reflects REAL conservative values, like preservation of the environment for future generations, small government, REAL moral values, like respect for all lives, and the party would keep the troops here on American soil where they belong to defend our freedoms...not far away in some foreign land serving the interests of corrupt corporations. These real conservatives would actually respect the constitution. They would protest big government spy programs that Bush supports, they would protest the government can take you away without a warrant or hold detainees indefinitely. These ARE REAL conservative values....the PARANOIA of the government! Now it sounds like Democrats are espousing these values. The world has turned upside down!
June 28th, 2008 at 12:15 pmAnd by the way, I used to be a Republican but after the 8 years of big government by Bushocrite, I have changed my ways and am voting for the party that reflects my conservative values...and that so happens to be the Democrats now.
June 28th, 2008 at 12:18 pm9. TheRight Says:
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Jeebus Herbert Cripes. The right-wingers who smoke fat see-gars (ala the OxyMoron) WANT kiddies to live -- especially in the Dominican Republic.
Why Right-Wingers Want Kiddies Alive:
http://www.armchairsubversive.com/
June 28th, 2008 at 12:21 pmTheRight Says:
Democrats have moved to increased the GI Bill and Pell Grants.
So yes, everybody will be able to go to college.
Democrats have attempted to raise cigarette taxes, which verifiably reduce smoking rates. But thanks to Republican obstructionism, it never passed.
Oil companies refuse to drill on the 68M+ acres they have leased of oil. They have reigned in on supply in order to keep the price of gas steadily rising. Speculators, also part of the problem, are also knocking the poor.
Free health care, good paying jobs, bring the troops home now
All of those things have been accomplished, or a good plan is in place for accomplishment. The neocon mind isn't very good at setting goals.
June 28th, 2008 at 12:23 pmdbadass,
I do believe you are underestimating TheRight's capacity for spouting ignorant babble. I am afraid he actually believes all of the stupidity he just typed, down to the smoking 5yos...
June 28th, 2008 at 12:25 pmYou're right dbadass. I have taken the troll's bait, but I couldn't help posting a response. Probably because it doesn't take much energy to debunk a troll.
June 28th, 2008 at 12:25 pmWhy do we need a "third" Party? We already have an anti-cuckoo bird Party, they're called Democrats.
June 28th, 2008 at 12:28 pmMcWars:
June 28th, 2008 at 12:30 pmDon't misunderstand me. I think it is tons of fun to take the bait. Whereas so many of these folks don't fish very well, taking the bait and leaving them with an empty hook seems the only logical thing to do.
Seem's to me the voting public will once again vote against their own best intrest...Dismanteling the constitution and rule of law is the bigest issue along with war's, lack of health care, and a huge list of enviromental issues like water to drink, non polluted land to plant crop's, wildlife, national debt..Ah hell to many to list.
The way thing's are going the dem's have done as poorly as the rep's and likely will split...One group backing the present block and tackeler's for the republican criminal's and the second group leaving the dem's and going for people that are for the constitution and law..
I keep hearing compromise to win....Excuse the hell outta me...I will not compromise the constitution and become a palosi, reid or obama....I may stand alone on this at present but everyone has a breaking point and sooner or later all will see you can't throw out all right's and law's to win an election...Do as you choose, I'm not giving my vote to any one willing to take away my right's .Blessings
June 28th, 2008 at 12:34 pmPoint well taken, dbadass.
June 28th, 2008 at 12:35 pmConsidering it is widely known that reich-wingers are regressives, you are 100% correct. On the other hand, progressives are going to elect the first black President of the United States.
June 28th, 2008 at 12:36 pm"On the other hand, progressives are going to elect the first black President of the United States."
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Oh, not just "progressives" -- self-identified, amongst whom I count myself -- but American voters who are sick and self-disgusted at being chumped by the right wing for 30 years.
It all came home to roost.
June 28th, 2008 at 12:42 pmSo, Hagel is disgusted with his party, yet refuses to defect to the other side. I guess that is most conservative think, my party right or wrong. Right up there with love or leave it but DON'T TRY TO MAKE IT BETTER.
June 28th, 2008 at 12:49 pmAnd I thought redneck mentality was only in the South.
June 28th, 2008 at 12:50 pmWhat are the Whigs doing these days?
June 28th, 2008 at 12:50 pmTheRight Says:
Regressives are more bigoted than any group on earth. They hate blacks and want to keep them poor. They hate the poor by driving up the cost of gasoline. They drive the cost of food to starve the elderly. Regressives hate blacks, the poor, and the elderly.
What's your point?
June 28th, 2008 at 12:53 pmTheRight Says:
Private funds are being used to find oil that will benefit all of us especially the poor.
Is this more satire?
June 28th, 2008 at 12:55 pm31. shoeless Says:
TheRight Says:
Private funds are being used to find oil that will benefit all of us especially the poor.
Is this more satire?
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Unfortunately, no. This has been around for 40-50 years now, and the right wing still believes. Those of'em not in on the take, that is.
June 28th, 2008 at 12:58 pmTheRight is shooting for a boat load of McGrampa points today. But, she is sure spending a lot of time slamming her fellow reich-wing regressives. How odd.
June 28th, 2008 at 1:00 pmYes, reich-wing talking points are satire.
June 28th, 2008 at 1:02 pmYes, true....because they haven't explored the 68 million acres.
June 28th, 2008 at 1:03 pmDr. Hussein Matt Says:
TheRight is shooting for a boat load of McGrampa points today. But, she is sure spending a lot of time slamming her fellow reich-wing regressives. How odd.
At first, I too was confused. But now I'm pretty sure she's just bipolar.
June 28th, 2008 at 1:05 pmAs an example of what passes for intelligent discourse on the conservative side, here is a gem given to us free of charge by our resident troll TheRight:
If [Obama] becomes president, then every child over 5 year old will take up smoking to be cool like the President of the US
Yes, ladies and gents, he did type that in all seriousness.
June 28th, 2008 at 1:05 pmNo, it's not true. Fact.
June 28th, 2008 at 1:07 pmNo, it's not true. Try again.
June 28th, 2008 at 1:08 pmTheRight Says: But.. but... I really deserve that McCain campaign fanny-pack! I worked hard for it! What do you mean, it doesn't count on the weekend? At least give me the logo beer coasters! It's not fair!
June 28th, 2008 at 1:08 pmDr. Hussein Matt Says:
Oil comapanies have not found any proven reserves on the 68 million acres.
Yes, true….because they haven’t explored the 68 million acres.
Well, of course they haven't explored it. Do you know how big 68 million acres is? It would take years and lots of money to explore that much area!
June 28th, 2008 at 1:08 pmThere is plenty of drilling already occurring of the coast in the Gulf. Please attempt to use facts and reality.
June 28th, 2008 at 1:08 pmNo. It is the truth. Private funds via the oil companies are use to look for oil. Tax payers are not funding this critical activity.
And they've been sitting on hundreds of already-capped wells, for decades. It's a scam, and you're a chump.
June 28th, 2008 at 1:09 pm*flagged*
Time to ban this troll.
June 28th, 2008 at 1:09 pmOver and over big oil has been asked for help for the poor in heating and airing their homes. They have refused. White House vowed to veto oil tax cut. Repubs on 6/08 blocked 2nd proposal for a oil tax cut. Just wondering what it is big oil is doing for the poor that can't be found in a news source.
June 28th, 2008 at 1:10 pmAre things so bad for "conservatives" that they insist on populating left-leaning blogs to voice their frustration and anger with the Republican Party that so failed them? In what parallel universe is "John McCain" is the viable answer to any question.
June 28th, 2008 at 1:10 pmIt takes a special type of simplistic, childish mind to make an electoral issue out of a personal habit -like smoking.
Pray tell, TheRight, what else do you object regarding Obama? His choice of shoe color? His ties? His brand of toothpaste, perhaps?
I do realise you think those are critical considerations when deciding for whom to cast your vote.
June 28th, 2008 at 1:12 pmhopefully it will be alot more productive than the dems..
Be careful what you hope for. Remember the Rubberstamps?
June 28th, 2008 at 1:13 pm39. TheRight Says:
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Ya've just made the case for nationalizing energy. Too important to be left in the hands of Enron-style hustlers.
That ain't what ya meant ta do, but ya did.
Yup. Ya did.
June 28th, 2008 at 1:13 pmSure private funds are also involved through shares owned by Stockholders, but without the huge tax cuts and the drilling on previously out of bounds land leasing very cheaply. Anyone ever ask how much actually landowners get from oil companies ? I have and it isn't that much and if the landowner tries to hold out he is barred by all the companies drilling in that area or they do a slant drill. So, who is the bully here ?
June 28th, 2008 at 1:14 pmAbove the Clouds Says:
In what parallel universe is “John McCain” is the viable answer to any question.
Ever seen the movie Cocoon?
June 28th, 2008 at 1:14 pmAt least Democrats admit when their party isn't doing as much as they would like it, even when they are blocked at every turn by repubs, my party right or wrong. You conservatives need to realize clean it up or the GOP is a thing of the past.
June 28th, 2008 at 1:16 pmAnyone ever ask how much actually landowners get from oil companies ? I have and it isn’t that much and if the landowner tries to hold out he is barred by all the companies drilling in that area or they do a slant drill. So, who is the bully here ?
And we come full circle.
Slant-drilling is what started Gulf War 1, and everything afterword is a direct result.
June 28th, 2008 at 1:17 pmrodgers Says:
Hagel floats possibility of a new third party
hopefully it will be alot more productive than the dems..
So, do you think the Republicans would not obstruct everything this new third party tries to do?
June 28th, 2008 at 1:18 pm#9 Theright:
Regressives are more bigoted than any group on earth. They hate blacks and want to keep them poor. They hate the poor by driving up the cost of gasoline. They drive the cost of food to starve the elderly. Regressives hate blacks, the poor, and the elderly.
McCain Might Raise the Retirement Age and Reduce Cost-of-Living Adjustments. “[T]he McCain campaign says the candidate intends to keep Social Security solvent by reducing the growth in benefits over the coming decades to match projected growth in payroll tax revenues. Among the options are extending the retirement age to 68 and reducing cost-of-living adjustments.
Republicans will be the minority because a liar like Obama makes promises to voters the cannot keep. Free health care, good paying jobs, bring the troops home now, college education for everyone…on and on and on. So much of hot air…a major cause of Global Warming!
No one is promising free health care. Even in Canada everyone has to pay in their single-payer program. College education should be more affordable. An intelligent nation makes better decisions and is more productive and competitive. Are you saying you are against the Industrial and Technology growth of the US???
Too many Americans believe this nonsense. They are ignorant.
Ignorance is breed by the uninformed and under-educated. But by your previous statement you would like Americans to dumb-down.
By the way, Obama started smoking again. If he becomes president, then every child over 5 year old will take up smoking to be cool like the President of the US. 60 years from now, 10s of millions of people will die of cancer just like Peter Jennings. Regressives hate children…want them to die from cancer.
People have choices just like drinking alcohol. Peter Jennings had quit smoking years before he developed cancer. And your last statement is just over the top-you need help.
June 28th, 2008 at 1:18 pmrodgers Says:
Keep it up, failure. Criticize the party unafraid of internal and external criticism, and deflect criticism of the party unwilling to change, at the expense of the population's well-being ("Sticking to our principles")
The GOP's got nothing for an election. And we're laughing them for it.
June 28th, 2008 at 1:23 pmOther than indulging Ralph Nader's fantasies, the idea is a non-starter. Conservatives fear the new - and a third party of disaffecteds would be charting a course through unchartered waters, like honesty, integrity, prudence. Don't see many neo-cons jumping onto that ship, and the paleos are a worn-out bunch of failures.
June 28th, 2008 at 1:24 pmPrivate funds are being used to find oil that will benefit all of us especially the poor.
~TheRight
And with this statement, TheRight has just proven he has no clue where money comes from. Maybe he believes oil companies have their own money tree orchards.
June 28th, 2008 at 1:31 pm62. rodgers Says:
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Stay the course -- ehh?
June 28th, 2008 at 1:33 pmrodgers Says:
your delusional…the dems are one in the same, they just pander to the other side, by doing nothing.
I think Hegel's got his first convert!
Good luck with that third-party. Perhaps they'll let you be an economic advisor, or pr flack, or the guy who fixes the copier. But won't you forfeit all those sweet McCain campaign blogging points?
June 28th, 2008 at 1:35 pmQuit playing with the troll and just flag it.
June 28th, 2008 at 1:37 pmIts deliberately trying to kill the thread subject and cause a flame war.
Conference coming up in the Middle East in October, 5 major oil companies will get to bid (I use that term laughingly). For drilling rights. Big oil was in Houston PRIOR to our INVASION of Iraq drumming up support to use ME oil. Read the PAC proposal started years before. And look who signed it. See any familiar names ? It is all about oil, first, last and always. Think about the soldier that died for your gallon next time you pump it.
June 28th, 2008 at 1:38 pmThis is a total lie. There are more lies on this website then come out of Obama’s mouth.
Um, no. Kuwait was slant-drilling into Iraqi oil fields with the help of the oil companies, who wanted cheap access to that sweet iraqi crude. When asked, Bush's April Glaspie said the US wouldn't get involved, and Saddam invaded Kuwait. The oil companies (remember, George Senior was also an oil man), thinking this was the very pretext they needed to get direct access, pressured Bush to invade. Knowing the sensitive nature of the region, and the issue, he first assembled a coalition, to spread the blame if anything unexpected happened, and knowing that Iraq would disintegrate if we occupied it, he gave them partially what they wanted: an invasion to weaken Saddam, and with the help of internal forces, perhaps to overthrow him, but without getting stuck in the quagmire that is Iraq.
June 28th, 2008 at 1:45 pmMy computer is buggy and I can't use the flag option, Wayne. Batting him around is my other option.
I like option b.
June 28th, 2008 at 1:48 pm65. --
"Poor person goes hungry…blame big oil.
Hillary does not get the nomination…blame big oil.
Obama tell another lie…blame big oil."
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Sorry, I was taught by the MSM right-wing gasbags to blame Bill Clinton.
I got a big pimple on my back this week. Friggin' Bill Clinton.
June 28th, 2008 at 2:00 pmTheRight Says:
Our fear of big oil is just like your fear of big government. Now, tell me, which one is accountable to the people? You think the oil companies care about your wallet?? Are they accountable to you in any way or form???
If you do..then hey, I have a bridge I would like to sell...
June 28th, 2008 at 2:00 pmtexaslady Says:
Think about the soldier that died for your gallon next time you pump it.
Thats why I'm buying a car that runs on compressed air http://www.theaircar.com/acf/ Support the troops, drive an air car!
June 28th, 2008 at 2:04 pm"Notice I did not make fun of your spelling mistake. I am a nice guy."
Mighty kind of ya. So do you not see your style as failing to promoting thoughtful reflection in your audience? You don't seek to alter opionions or persuade do you? Would you like to explain what your goals are?
June 28th, 2008 at 2:04 pmjonny Says:
Sorry, I was taught by the MSM right-wing gasbags to blame Bill Clinton.
While listening to Norman Goldman on the Ed Schultz Show yesterday, I heard a wingnut caller who blamed the high oil prices on Barak Obama. It was some nonsense about the oil speculation being caused by fear of Obama being elected.
So, I think Bill Clinton may finally be off the hook. They are now preemptively blaming everything on Barak Obama.
June 28th, 2008 at 2:05 pmditch the ing...
June 28th, 2008 at 2:06 pm#73 - Progessives might have problems with child abusers, those who tout fidelity yet use paid sexual partners, doesn't matter which party they belong too. You aren't even making sense. So Obama smokes, gee guess that disqualifies him from ANY POLITICAL OFFICE. How many more children took up cocaine and went awol like bushie did ?
June 28th, 2008 at 2:11 pmHere in California Regressives consider smokers a bigger threat to society then rapists and murders.
~ TheRight
More simplistic babble from the mentally challenged. This statement is -surpise!- simply not true.
Where is Obama going to smoke?
None of your bloody business, concern troll.
June 28th, 2008 at 2:15 pmWith idiots like TheRight aboard, it's a wonder the Republican ship ever had any moorings whatsoever.
June 28th, 2008 at 2:18 pmHere in California Regressives consider smokers a bigger threat to society then rapists and murders.
For those who live outside the state, he references the newly enacted, "Three Butts and You're Out" statute, which allows for simple possession - but lighting up, triggers an automatic conviction. After three strikes, the offender is executed, and his still-viable organs sold, to defray costs. Children of Three Strikers are put in the fostercare system, with a chip embedded under their tongue, which monitors intake. It also can sense tobacco smoke, and report offenders to the proper authorities. All children entering the state also are given the chip, to proactively combat possible corrupting influenues from abroad.
June 28th, 2008 at 2:21 pmJust a student of animal social behavior. Are you suggesting the claims you make are "Truths". I think there is something else going on...
June 28th, 2008 at 2:23 pmMake that "influences."
June 28th, 2008 at 2:25 pmTheRight Says:
I agree that big government is not the answer, thats why I don't support the Republicans anymore. When I see that the Bush administration is spying on peoples phone records, when they don't need a warrant to arrest a criminal and hold them indefinitely, thats when I got fed up.
The democrats are not perfect either. But at least they are actively trying to protect the constitution by the abuses of the current Bush administration.
Now when I see you defending oil companies 100%, I see a tool of this big republican government. Here you are saying that drilling for more oil is the answer when in reality this is not the direction we should be going...continuing our addiction to cheap dirty fossil fuels when there is so many other alternatives that the Republicans constantly avoid addressing. You think coal, nuclear energy and more drilling is the answer to current gas prices?? Hey buddy, I have news for you...these projects take forever to come online and won't solve gas prices over night, but you know what will push the prices down RIGHT NOW? LESS CONSUMPTION. It's supply and demand. Hmm, I wonder why the Republican talking heads don't support this stratedgy? Oh yea...because they want Americans to keep feeding the oil barrons their record profits.
If you think oil companies are your friends....then like I said, I have a bridge I would like to sell you, interested? LOL.
If you are a real conservative, then you would start thinking for yourself, turn of Hannity and Fox noise!
June 28th, 2008 at 2:27 pmThis website is all about calling people names and making sick comments about Republicans and Conservatives.
~TheRight
Aawwwww.... did we huwt youw feewings, TheWight?
Take your fake outrage elsewhere. You are the same type of person who spent all these years insulting those of us who disagreed with your father figure's pet war for oil in the MiddleEast.
And forgive me if I don't give a damn for you or your pwetty little feewings.
June 28th, 2008 at 2:50 pmWhich oil company or oil service company does theright work for and/or have stock in?
June 28th, 2008 at 3:08 pmTheRight Says:
Poor person goes hungry…blame big oil.
Hillary does not get the nomination…blame big oil.
Obama tell another lie…blame big oil.
Nope. Blame Bush:
“Faced with a surge in the number of proposed solar power plants, the federal government has placed a moratorium on new solar projects on public land until it studies their environmental impact, which is expected to take about two years. The Bureau of Land Management says an extensive environmental study is needed to determine how large solar plants might affect millions of acres it oversees in six Western states.”
So, we must drill now, in sensitive areas - but solar farms, which could be producing energy in two years time, must be studied for two years, first.
Wasn't Bush a former oil man?
[Snerk!!!]
June 28th, 2008 at 3:11 pmAnd I'm sorry, but what environmental risks does a solar-to-steam generating plant pose? Water usage issues?
June 28th, 2008 at 3:16 pmbarfly,
There is some environmental impact from solar power plants as well, as is the case with any man-made structure.
They need to clear the land, put up a fence around it, build roads to get in and out of the plant, put the towers and the cables to get the electricity generated out, water usage, sewage, etc.
Having said that, I would hope the overall impact on the environment from a these plants is a lot lower than, say, coal power plants, or offshore oil platforms.
June 28th, 2008 at 3:29 pmI'll quote Jon Stewart, barfly: Let's drill Lee Raymond's jowls
June 28th, 2008 at 3:30 pmfor oil.
Right-wingers are all about national security in this election. All about fear and defense; all about national security and submission to foreign influences.
Then WHY aren't right-wingers agitating for nationalized energy? THAT's the national-security issue, isn't it?
They's certainly get a jump on the Demmycrats -- none of whom are advocating or proposing such a thing.
The gummint handles Our War On Terr -- why not have'em handle the CAUSE?? The gummint handles National Defense -- why not have'em handle THE CAUSE?
OOP -- pardon me. Some powers handle some crap better'n other powers handle other crap. It ain't up to us nobodies to decide which is which.
June 28th, 2008 at 3:45 pmThe problem is that the solar systems going on line now are intended to challenge $50 per barrel oil. That creates a major environmental problem for oil executives as they may have to move to smaller, less palaceous homes.
June 28th, 2008 at 4:00 pmIf you like the humor of reich-wing fascist, corporate sucking, stupid RePugniScums, and I do, just read #9!!!
Very funny #9... stupid (as you practice it) always keeps me laughing and you are da bomb!!
Could you STUPID some more 'roun' here....I need another laugh...HHaahahaaahahahaah!
June 28th, 2008 at 4:18 pm#73 is also real stupid too...
June 28th, 2008 at 4:34 pmSorry: palaceous s/b palatial. DSL and thunderstorms within 30 miles do not mix!
June 28th, 2008 at 4:34 pmThis is the second try: It took me 30 minutes to correct the error - thunder in backround.
June 28th, 2008 at 4:45 pmTheRight Says
I work for Chevron.
June 28th, 2008 at 4:34 pm
I thought you worked for Dick Cheney?
June 28th, 2008 at 6:23 pmMcWars Says:
I thought you worked for Dick Cheney?
June 28th, 2008 at 6:23 pm
Correction: He works for dick.
June 28th, 2008 at 6:24 pmWell, since Darth works for Chevron, then theright works for both. No surprise there!
June 28th, 2008 at 6:27 pmI like Chuck Hagel a lot and I admire him for standing up for his own personal principles instead of falling into the leming pack of the GOP, but to call himself an Eisenhower Republican??
Chuck, baby, let's bring it into this century!!!!!!!!!!!
June 29th, 2008 at 2:43 amMy post at #88 is now incorrect due to TPs inablility to remove comments and leave the numbering intact. So now it looks like I'm calling Gregor Samsa stupid.
Which I am not. My apologies.
June 29th, 2008 at 6:52 amMuch more then lost their moorings, They have steamed away from the docks at full speed. Not only have they lost the moorings they ripped the dock apart and destroied the harbor.
June 29th, 2008 at 9:15 amrepublican = insanity!