In a telephone interview with the Orange County Register earlier this week, John McCain acknowledged he was unaware of the price of gas. The OC Register’s Martin Wicksol reports:
WICKSOL: When was the last time you pumped your own gas and how much did it cost?
MCCAIN: Oh, I don’t remember. Now there’s Secret Service protection. But I’ve done it for many, many years. I don’t recall and frankly, I don’t see how it matters.
I’ve had hundreds and hundreds of town hall meetings, many as short a time ago as yesterday. I communicate with the people and they communicate with me very effectively.
Listen here:
McCain’s cluelessness about gas prices is compounded by the fact that he is clueless about what to do about it. He is promoting a gas tax holiday for drivers because he claims to understand “Americans are hurting.” It will provide “a little psychological boost,” McCain said of his plan.
In reality, his gas tax holiday would be worth a mere 60 cents a day for Americans and would be a boon for oil companies and foreign oil-producing nations. It would drive up the deficit. Moreover, the proposal would rob $1.4 billion from “public transportation and severely restrict the industry’s ability to add and improve transit services for a growing number of Americans.”
It seems that gas prices is just one more issue that “is not something” McCain has “understood as well he should.”
He remembers all right. He pumped gas when it was $.15 a gallon.
He is out of touch with anything in the reality arena.
June 28th, 2008 at 8:44 pmAnd that comment alone by him is reason enough for him to not be President. God Republicans are painfully stupid.
June 28th, 2008 at 8:48 pmMore proof it’s time for the media to nail this guy for his ignorance on so many issues.
June 28th, 2008 at 8:55 pmcaption:
June 28th, 2008 at 8:58 pm“This, my friends, is the answer to our energy crisis! It is a portable telephone! It doesn’t have any wires! You can take it with you wherever you go!
Americans, my friends, won’t have to drive anywhere, ever again!
We can all just stay home and do everything by telephone, even if we’re in the backyard!”
Gas is $4.06 here, McDizzy.
Get this, McDizzy: It’s not about YOU, it’s about US.
The price of gas, milk and bread are pretty basic things any political candidate ought to know — because it’s important to US, and we’re the ones will vote for you. Or not.
June 28th, 2008 at 9:05 pmIn less than 7 years, Mercedes-Benz plans to ditch petroleum-powered vehicles from its lineup. Focusing on electric, fuel cell, and biofuels, the company is revving up research in alternative fuel sources and efficiency.
The company also has about 100 Smart electric cars undergoing testing in London, with that favorite 2010 year as the projected market release date.
Why can’t American auto companies see the handwriting on the wall????
http://www.ecogeek.org/content/view/1800/69/
June 28th, 2008 at 9:06 pmSomeone shine a light in that man’s ear & see if it goes straight out the other side.
If McIncompetent steals this election, [as in the words of Jesse Ventura] Don’t Start the Revolution Without Me!
June 28th, 2008 at 9:09 pmBush didn’t know that gas prices were approaching $4.00/gallon a few months ago, and even laughed at how absurd the thought was. Today, I paid $4.29/gallon in Pennsylvania, and that was after shopping around for the cheap stuff.
McBush, McSame, doesn’t matter… they are both so far removed from REAL Americans it’s disgusting. I was going to say it’s sad, but it truly is disgusting.
PEACE
June 28th, 2008 at 9:09 pmAnd I don’t see that it matters that the price of Depends is going up. Poor ol’ John only worries covering his own a$$.
June 28th, 2008 at 9:11 pmBadger, America’s auto industry is still in denial because they continue to listen to Big Oil.
Think of how far we could have come if Detroit had recognized the revolution that was the original Honda Civic, back in the 1970’s.
PEACE
June 28th, 2008 at 9:12 pmI was going to call bush & McNincompoop slugs, but really, slugs are vastly more endearing.
June 28th, 2008 at 9:14 pmObama and McCain are the SAME
June 28th, 2008 at 9:14 pmThat old salt is drifting out to sea….may never see land again. sad, really.
June 28th, 2008 at 9:15 pmWhat McCain really wants to say is “Nothing matters as long as I can be president and my dear Cindy can be First Lady/Junkie.”
June 28th, 2008 at 9:15 pmYes and his wife owns 7 houses and doesn’t bother to pay the property taxes (see http://www.huffingtonpost.com/). Is this how you live? Is he one of us?
June 28th, 2008 at 9:17 pmHonestly, the thing to watch is McCain’s VP pick. Both Papa Bush and Baby Bush chose “assassination insurance” Veeps… after all, who wanted Quayle or Cheney to step in?
McBush is a different story. Let’s just watch who gets the slot, and how true he (yes, I’m assuming the GOPers won’t go with a woman…) is to “conservative values.
PEACE
June 28th, 2008 at 9:20 pm“I admit, I do not know how much gas it takes to runs this telecommunication device but I believe every one of my K-Street friends should have one.”
June 28th, 2008 at 9:20 pmYou’re right, Pork Chop, it doesn’t matter whether you know the price of gas, or the price of anything for that matter.
June 28th, 2008 at 9:29 pmBefore the year is out, you won’t matter.
Okay, way off topic, but I have to share…
Spoke with my late mom’s best friend tonight, and she is a died in the wool Republican. She told me that she has decided to vote for Barack, her first vote for a Democrat in her lifetime.
Did I mention that she’s 86?
Small victories, but huge gains.
PEACE
June 28th, 2008 at 9:29 pmUpdateFLASHBACK: Bush: I’m “focused” on gas prices but unaware of $4 gas.
Bush: “$4.00 a gallon? I was unaware of that… it was supposed to be $5.00 a gallon by now…”
June 28th, 2008 at 9:39 pmWhat McIIIrd fails to comprehend is the ripple effect on prices of all things transported. Dumbass.
June 28th, 2008 at 9:43 pmallow me to comment
for rogerse,
“yawn, another tp non-story.”
which is trollese for,
“it doesn’t matter how much
lipstick we put on this pig
no one’s gonna vote for him!”
*
spencers mom,
with your mom’s friend on our
side we can’t lose, thanks
for the story.
*
good luck
•
June 28th, 2008 at 9:45 pmspencers mom #19
Great news. I also have a couple of family members [also repub die hards] who are voting for Obama. Time for a change, it is.
June 28th, 2008 at 9:48 pm…the ripple effect on prices of all things transported.
The largest container cargo ships….which bring us all the Asian manufactured goods….go 37 Feet on a gallon of fuel.
June 28th, 2008 at 9:50 pmIt matters because most Americans do know what the price of gasoline is, besides price is everyday on television screens, media, financial markets.
June 28th, 2008 at 9:51 pmIt is bad if McCain,as a candidate, does not know the price of gasoline, but it is worse when he thinks how does that matters.!!
You heard it hear first – The repubs know they are going to lose the electin (they already lost the congress), so McCain was the one selected to lose, for obvious reasons. And when Obama is POTUS, he will be blamed for the horrible economic downturn (possible depression?) and they have the media set up to make it stick. The fight has just begun folks.
June 28th, 2008 at 9:55 pmThis just in. McPander Bear has decided to run as the black candidate.
June 28th, 2008 at 10:02 pm26. That’s how the Republicans always get away with it. They blame the Democrats who take over after they themselves are finished screwing up the country. The media swallows this line without question…and people then blame the Democrats for their woes…
June 28th, 2008 at 10:03 pmMultiple choice time.
When was the last time you pumped your own gas and how much did it cost?
a) I don’t remember
June 28th, 2008 at 10:06 pmb) Who cares?
c) I’m much too important to pump my own gas, fool.
d) All of the above.
Exactly ucsbclassics53 … Clinton enjoyed the economic upturn left by GHWB and bush43 is suffering from the economic downturn left by Clinton.
Bwhahahaha. When the inmates run the asylum …
June 28th, 2008 at 10:08 pmMcCain: I ‘Don’t See How It Matters’ That I Don’t Know The Price Of Gas»
He’s simply announcing his intent to continue the Bush dynasty; the first step is to show voters he’s as out to lunch as Bush sr. was with check-stand lasers and the price of milk.
June 28th, 2008 at 10:18 pmWhen he is out of touch with the price of gasoline, then he is also out of touch with the price of food staples, clothing, basic survivor requirements.
He sounds just like Dubya in his eliitist disconnect from reality.
You go McDepends. One more way that you prove your representation of the 1% elitist.
June 28th, 2008 at 10:24 pmGrandpappy McInsane: I ‘Don’t See How It Matters’ That I Don’t Know The Price Of Gas
Well, when you are brought and paid for by a wife who holds the checkbook and purse in the family and who lets the limo driver pump gas so that she doesn’t ruin her manicured nails, you can see why Gramps is clueless of the price of gas.
June 28th, 2008 at 10:25 pmOh, Royal McPain, anointed one, rubbed nightly with the magic oils of Saudi Prime, blessed be you in your Supreme Ignorance…
Excuse me, but haven’t we just been through eight years of bloody hell with the Royal Anointed Bush and the Royal Anointed Chain-knee?
What planet are these pathetic worthless lying election-stealing war-mongering clowns on? Planet Wacky? No, just Planet Ruling Class… And they have the unmitigated gall to try to point to Obama as “elitist?”
Bush, Chain-knee, McPain and Gramm have worked hard to deregulate the federal mortgage markets, the oil futures markets, and the futures markets of wheat, corn and rice. All so their greedy corporate buddies can steal hundreds of millions of dollars each day from the American people. Heck of a job, traitors…
June 28th, 2008 at 10:31 pmOld Hat: You don’t know the difference because you can’t read and comprehend. Your type is what I call a fence sitter. And any fool but a repug should know you aren’t going to agree with a candidate 100% of the time.
June 28th, 2008 at 10:36 pmAll that matters to millions of voters is that McCain come out against gay marriage and pro-life.
As an added bonus, he’ll pick up additional millions of voters if he promises to bomb Iran back to the Stone Age.
This, my friends, it the true measure of the failure of American Public School Education.
June 28th, 2008 at 10:43 pmIt doesn’t matter what gas cost to McCain his wife is super rich. Don’t you stupid voters understand the McCain is out of touch and he doesn’t have to know how much anything cost. He is a war hero, so he should be President. He should be President because his name is John. He should be President because he supports Bush’s policies. He should be President because his lives in Arizona. He should be President because he’s a Republicans. He should be President because the election is scheduled for 4 November. He should be President because he’s a dumbass. He should be President because he will lead the country into a DEPRESSION. I can’t think of any other reasons he should be elected.
June 28th, 2008 at 10:46 pmDid he really pump his own gas for many, many years? I highly doubt it since self service pumps weren’t around until the late 70’s early 80’s. By that time he was married to Cindy and I’m sure the servants filled the cars in that household. If McCain pumped his own gas it would have been for just a couple of years and then it was still possible to go into service stations that offered either self serve or full service options. I truly doubt he has ever gotten out of a limo or car and pumped his own gas.
June 28th, 2008 at 10:58 pmmcchimpy picks up another endorsement. Tran Trong Duyet, his Vietnamese captor. he even has black and white photos of the two of them long ago.
Two wild and crazy guys.
June 28th, 2008 at 11:12 pmNope–it doesn’t matter. Clearly, the price of gas has no bearing on our economy. Be thankful for that!
June 28th, 2008 at 11:29 pmPlease tell me that there is a video of him saying that – and that it can be plugged into a commercial to show how out of touch he is with the people.
In essence: If they’re hungry, let them eat cake.
June 28th, 2008 at 11:35 pmMcCain is an elitist. He could not be expected to know a whole lot about what concerns ordinary Americans. What’s more, McCain shows an attitude that he futhermore doesn’t give a rat’s ass about ordinary Americans.
June 28th, 2008 at 11:37 pmHeh. That crap really pisses me off. It may not matter to HIM that regular gas here in Los Angeles is just barely south of $5.00 per gallon. The last time I filled up, I paid $4.76 per, and it cost me very nearly $60 to fill up my tank.
When you aren’t a freaking millionaire dozens of times over, $60 for a tank of gas that *used* to cost $25 hurts like hell, along with $5/gallon for milk, $4 for a stinking box of cereal and $3.50 for a loaf of bread.
Let them eat cake, indeed. Stupid old asshat.
June 28th, 2008 at 11:42 pmActually, McSame did know the price of gasoline last week, but he can’t remember from one week to the next.
June 28th, 2008 at 11:56 pmGame of Life Says:
Old Hat: You don’t know the difference because you can’t read and comprehend. Your type is what I call a fence sitter. And any fool but a repug should know you aren’t going to agree with a candidate 100% of the time.
Being a real jerk again?
June 29th, 2008 at 12:06 amCould you quit with the idiotic and trite smears?
McCain: I ‘Don’t See How It Matters’ That I Don’t Know The Price Of Gas»
Ideas for campaign ads keep adding up … almost daily do we get a clip from the insane McCain.
June 29th, 2008 at 12:10 amOh, boy. Ol’ McCain keeps digging himself into a deep hole, doesn’t he?
June 29th, 2008 at 12:44 amWow… the really remarkable thing here, is that a reporter asked him a pointed question, meaningful to the general populace.
This is why I don’t understand why Obama didn’t jump at the chance to do the town hall thing with this clown. With regular folks asking the questions, he’d have both feet in his mouth in no time, in a much more public setting.
I’ve had hundreds and hundreds of town hall meetings, many as short a time ago as yesterday.
“..many as short a time ago as yesterday”? Whoa… how many town hall meetings does this guy have in a day?
June 29th, 2008 at 1:07 amHe doesn’t see “how it matters” that he doesn’t know the price of gas?
GHW Bush didn’t know the price of milk, nor did he know about a grocery scanner at the market — he lost the election.
Keep it up, Johnny, we will all have ringside seats when you and your party get beat in November.
June 29th, 2008 at 1:12 am#43 LS Annie,
June 29th, 2008 at 1:14 amI remember when the paycheck didn’t reach to the end of the month and cereal was on the dinner table. Today cereal and milk are too expensive even for that.
had, as long as you are trite and useless expect smears.
June 29th, 2008 at 1:16 am“I’ve had hundreds and hundreds of town hall meetings, many as short a time ago as yesterday. I communicate with the people and they communicate with me very effectively”. The old man and his constituancy are so rich they must not talk about the price of gas or he his not listening very well or he is a lousy communicator.
June 29th, 2008 at 1:32 amJohnnie McEnron of the Gas and Oil Party (GOP) doesn’t know about $4.00/gal. gas? Funny, the road leads directly from Enron [How to Get Rich by $crewing Your Fellow American] to his doorstep.
McCain Defends Enron Loophole – by Jason Leopold
[Phil] Gramm’s influence over McCain’s economic agenda – and the checkered political-business history of Gramm and his wife Wendy – have largely escaped media scrutiny.
Gramm received more than $34,000 in campaign contributions from Enron and served as one of the company’s key legislative allies in Washington, including his help in 2000 removing federal oversight from energy trades on electronic platforms.
Closing Enron Loophole Would Drop Oil Prices 25% to 50% Overnight by Jon Ponder
…John McCain doesn‘t talk about the Enron loophole any more. One McCain adviser reportedly said he no longer even has a position on it. When the bipartisan Farm Bill shut the Enron loophole last month, John McCain opposed the Farm Bill, citing its spending levels.
What changed? Since 2006, John McCain‘s top economic adviser has been former Texas Senator Phil Gramm, husband of the former CFTC head who then joined Enron. McCain chaired Gramm‘s 1996 presidential race, with Ken Lay as regional chairman. It was Gramm who passed the Enron loophole, partially written by Enron itself, with no hearings, with no debate.
It was Gramm who stopped Democrats from closing the Enron loophole, and it was Gramm who became vice chairman at the Swiss financial firm UBS in 2002, less than a year after UBS bought the shattered remains of Enron‘s energy trading arm.
…McCain‘s finance co-chair, Wayne Berman, lobbied just last year for Chevron and for the American Petroleum Institute against the Price Gouging Prevention Act. And this year the lobbying firm for which Berman serves as managing director was hired by the New York Mercantile Exchange to lobby against the Close the Enron Loophole Act.
In fact, McCain‘s top campaign adviser, controversial lobbyist Charlie Black, was paid 140,000 dollars by JP Morgan back in 2000 for the sole purpose of lobbying Congress to pass the Commodities Future Modernization Act, the same act that contained the Enron loophole.
Both articles linked above are excellent reading.
Help Close the Enron Loophole
A movement to close the loophole is gaining support from both parties. There is even a web site called CloseLoophole.org where you can join a self-proclaimed “viral marketing campaign” to do just that.
June 29th, 2008 at 1:44 amI’ve done it for many, many years. I don’t recall and frankly, I don’t see how it matters.
~McCain
Translation: Pumping & paying for my own gas? C’mon! That’s for the little people who work for their wages. Plus, I don’t see how it matters that I don’t know how those little people live. It’s not as if the current president has a clue. And those suckers voted twice for him. So there.
June 29th, 2008 at 1:58 amYou arrogant M====r F======g Gigalo!!!
Maybe if you had to spend your own money on gas instead of your wife’s you would have a little clearer memory.
Or are we just having another “Senior Moment”????????
Is this guy a Bush clone or what!!!!!!!!!
IDIOT!
June 29th, 2008 at 2:35 amI don’t see what it matters if a senator from AZ knows the price of gas or not, it’s not as if he is going to be president.
June 29th, 2008 at 4:22 amIt would be one thing if McCain had been asked about the price of a pair of jeans and didn’t know the answer. In order to know that, one pretty much has to actually go jeans-shopping, and I think McCain could be forgiven if he admitted he personally hadn’t bought any jeans lately.
But not knowing the price of gasoline is a whole ‘nother matter. Not only has the price of gas been a major news story lately, but the price of gasoline (unlike the price of jeans) is usually advertised on signs that can be easily seen from the roadway. Surely McCain looks out the window of that bus of his every so often.
This goes beyond just not buying your own gas. This speaks to one’s level of general obliviousness. And the fact that he dismisses as unimportant what he doesn’t know just digs the hole deeper. If the past eight years has taught us anything, it’s that we can’t afford these traits in our president.
June 29th, 2008 at 4:32 amThis reminds me of Bush 41 visiting a supermarket back in 1992 and wondering outloud how new the scanning technology was.
I always said if a candidate does not know how much a gallon of milk cost (or now a gallon of gas), he or she does not live in my neighborhood.
If McCain does not know the price of gas and the relation of that price to the income of the average American, he does not deserve to be President.
I think it matters a great deal that McCain does not know the price of gas. Doesn’t he look out the window when he is being driven past a gas station? Does he not review the bills of his own campaign? No wonder his campaign went broke. And if he does not look at his own bills, chances are he will not review the bills our country has and our budget deficit will only grow larger.
June 29th, 2008 at 5:28 amI don’t think it’s a lapse of memory. Johnnie McEnron is just another lying reTHUGliCON … a member of the Gas & Oil Party.
Even though I do think Johnnie McIncompetent has a problem with cognizance and is seriously out of touch … his main interest is not the welfare of Americans and certainly not the rest of the world unless it translate$ into profit$ for him and/or his cronie$.
And just for the intellectually challenged trolls who infest these threads occasionally – I supply these definitions of the word WELFARE:
1. Health, happiness, and good fortune; well-being.
June 29th, 2008 at 5:52 am2. Prosperity.
republican = insanity!
June 29th, 2008 at 8:30 amAnd in other news today, McCain discussed his views on tax policy:
WICKSOL: When was the last time you paid taxes and how much did you pay?
MCCAIN: Oh, I don’t remember. I haven’t paid taxes for quite awhile, so I would have no idea, my friend. Other people pay taxes, but I’m all about cutting these pork barrel real estate taxes for me and the little wife. I don’t need taxes, people. I’ve said this for many, many years. And frankly, I don’t see how it matters.
June 29th, 2008 at 9:14 amThis touched many nerves in many corners. The photo is a Mastercard moment: priceless. McCain is wireless, as well, but his antenna is down.
For the record, McCain is not and never will be “my friend”. That is just another presumptive remark.
And the combined contemporary brilliance and insight of both McCain and Bush is absolutely stunning…in a morose and debilitating sort of way.
June 29th, 2008 at 9:31 am“McCain: I ‘Don’t See How It Matters’ That I Don’t Know The Price Of Gas”
Jebus.
Seeing as the price of gas is increasing the price of EVERYTHING ELSE, it might be slightly important in considering how to fix the economy Bush and the Merry Neocons have totally wrecked.
No wonder I have the urge to waterboard a Republican every time I have to fill my tank.
June 29th, 2008 at 9:47 amKira: Thanks for your #53 post with links.
June 29th, 2008 at 10:26 amRUCerious Says:
What McIIIrd fails to comprehend is the ripple effect on prices of all things transported. Dumbass.
And that list includes almost everything.
June 29th, 2008 at 10:31 amMcCain went on to say, “Besides, only elitists pump their own gas!”
June 29th, 2008 at 10:33 amWell it still costs less in NJ than it does in CT and in Jersey they pump it for ya!
June 29th, 2008 at 10:39 amIt’s entirely possible that what McCain meant was “I haven’t pumped my own gas in quite awhile because when you’re protected by the Secret Service, you’re not allowed to do things like that. I can’t remember exactly the last time I pumped my own gas, and I can’t remember what I paid for gas the last time I did so.”
However, if this is what he meant, he should have seized the opportunity to add, “it’s not terribly important what the price of gas was the last time I pumped my own. What matters is that the price of gas today is up to an unprecedented $4 a gallon on average, and this is hurting many Americans. Not only is it busting their budgets just to fill their gas tanks, but it’s affecting the prices of goods and services they pay for, their travel and vacations, and almost every other factor that affects their lifestyle. And something must be done to address this.”
This way, even though McCain doesn’t pump his own gas, he could have demonstrated that he knows how painful it is for those who do. But he fumbled the ball. Again.
June 29th, 2008 at 10:50 amgas costs 12 cents a gallon in Venesuela. it’s all about government policy. If you let the oil companies decide, well, guess what happens.
June 29th, 2008 at 10:58 amHow much further backwards will the American people allow us to go?
We now face the real possibility that soon we will see people walking the streets everywhere in America with a gun strapped to thier waist…..back to the 1850’s we run.
Airlines are canceling not just flights but routes….there will be places in America now that you cannot fly to anymore….backwards we run.
Our infrastucture is crumbling and in decay everywhere and nothing is being done. Backwards we run.
The dow this week touched on 2000 numbers. In other words, in 8 years the dow has gained not one inch. compare that to the progress of the Clinton years…..from 3000 to 11000. Backwards we run.
FDR said a conservative is a man with two perfectly good legst that steadfastly refuses to walk forward.
Oh, education…..backwards, health care, backwards. Come on America, quit buying into the race and gay baiting. Time to wake up and do something positive for yourselves.
June 29th, 2008 at 11:06 amActually, didn’t they ask him what it cost last time he pumped it? Not, what’s the cost of gas now?
If I pumped gas for the last time a year ago, I wouldn’t remember what it cost.
But let the rabid frothing proceed.
June 29th, 2008 at 11:44 amFred,
Why settle for improved education, infrastructure, health care and gas prices, when McCain assures us that we will withdraw from Iraq at a time of his choosing with “honor and dignity?”
June 29th, 2008 at 11:46 amFar be it from me to apologize for a presidential candidate, much less a Republican one, but I drive a MINI Cooper and work from home. Most months I buy 1 or 2 tanks of gas. That’s it.
I can tell you ball park what the price of gas is, but it could easily have gone up or down by $.30 since my last fill up.
McCain obviously doesn’t drive himself hardly anywhere. If you don’t buy stuff, you don’t know what prices are. He’d be horrible at the Price is Right, I bet, because he probably doesn’t buy his own toothpaste, breakfast cereal, or peanut butter either.
That said, oil and gas prices are a huge issue right now. If he had any brains he would make it a point to be briefed every day on gas prices.
June 29th, 2008 at 11:53 amyes, it seems you must….care to rationalize this disasterous war or or endangered economic status or the the millions without health care or well, you get the point.
please, no frothing unless we are also allowed.
June 29th, 2008 at 11:53 amThanks for this brilliance, Fred. It’s all so relevant to the topic.
June 29th, 2008 at 11:59 ampoteryfly,
don’t you think it’s odd that everyone here does think it’s relevant and you are the only one that wishes to trivialize it?
Just as you would trivialize the war in Iraq and our disasterous economic standing. I think it is relevant.
Oh, and thanks for your birlliance too….we all needed to know that you think it’s not a big deal….
June 29th, 2008 at 12:02 pmPotfry Says
also, if all you have to say is frothing and brilliant…please refrain from posting. I directed reasonable questions in your direction…
June 29th, 2008 at 12:04 pmLook. I know what you’re trying to do, and, frankly, I agree with you (having donated already to Obama’s campaign), and I agree that the gas tax holiday idea is nothing short of idiotic. But please, please don’t try to twist what this guy said into something it’s not.
He was asked not about gas prices today, but when he himself pumped gas. I see no reason to expect that he would have done so in the last decade– what he clearly says “doesn’t matter” is his memory of the cost of gasoline the last time he pumped it. He DOES NOT claim that it doesn’t matter to know today’s gasoline prices. Don’t turn our very real and very strong case against John McCain into a smear campaign.
June 29th, 2008 at 12:06 pmFred, are you drinking already? you aren’t making sense.
The topic is whether or not McCain’s comment reveals ignorance about the price of gas right now.
You are talking about Iraq and health care. Certainly legitimate topics in their own right. But not this topic. Maybe you could start a new thread? Or your own blog? You could it, Disconnected Fred, or something.
June 29th, 2008 at 12:09 pmAs a Canadian Political junkie, I am at a total loss for words. The lies put out by McCain is stupifing to the mind.
“you can walk through Bagdad” – the war is going fine???
“I know Americans are hurting” – You don’t even know what the price of gas is?????
I thought it was a myth that America was being “Dumbed Down”….case in point….He is still competative in the polls by the press.
Either the press and polls are lying or the American government has reached its goal of Dumbing Down the Nation.
Don’t believe me??? Why would any country make it more difficult to attend collage??? Cut funding for education, Breeding Patriotism over knowledge and so on. Every other industrialized nation in the world subsidizes higher education.
Im watching Bobby Jindell tell me the Obama is lieing to the American people….REALLY….SHOOT…i JUST BROKE ANOTHER TV….ERRRRR….THE LIES.
June 29th, 2008 at 12:10 pmLord, what an idiot. I’m certainly not suggesting that McCain should occasionally show a little interest in the outside world because of intellectual curiosity about that world. No one ever expects any Republican to have any personal interests outside of greed, lust and spite. But this guy is a Senator, and he’s running for President. You’d think he’d take some professional interest in what’s going on in the country he proposes to run.
And you know, everywhere you go all across the country you see huge roadside signs, lit up extra-bright at night, showing the price of gas in brightly-colored letters a foot tall. Senator McCain doesn’t actually have to do anything so plebian as pump gas with his own two hands to be aware of its price; all he’d have to do is occasionally look out the window of his limousine while he’s being chauffeured somewhere. He could also learn the price of gas by watching the teevee news. Or he could read a newspaper. He could at least read the headlines on the newspaper. If necessary, he could afford to hire someone to read the newspaper headlines for him.
June 29th, 2008 at 12:11 pmgibson3 Says:
You are free to take whatever you want from the situation. Others are free to take it the way they see it.
One poster already stated that if mccain was really interested that he would be getting briefs on the status of what is a crisis in America.
These gas prices will fuel our economic downfall much more than the disasterous war and it deserves his attention if he is to be taken seriously.
If he is not particularly concerned about this then how can he be taken as anything other than an oil company price gouging accomplice?
June 29th, 2008 at 12:13 pmPotfry Says:
so far, you have said nothing. You merely defend mccain. and you criticize me? Engage in discussion instead of charactor assasination.
June 29th, 2008 at 12:16 pmPotfry — the perfect description of the brain behind the alias?
Put down the pipe, sir. Playing semantics doesn’t erase the fact that your McCandidate is lax on economic knowledge. Any reasonable candidate who knows that their lack of knowledge in a specific area would pose as a hindrance, especially when the area (the economy) is front and center, would make a concerted effort to consult with others and gain some ground, right? But McCain’s sense of elitism would fade if he actually learned some principled economics. There’s a superiority to ignorance in this country that comes with a feeling too good to quell with — GASP — knowledge.
June 29th, 2008 at 12:22 pmYou’re hopeless, Fred.
June 29th, 2008 at 12:22 pmPotfry Says:
June 29th, 2008 at 12:09 pm
We don’t accept new aliases from concern trolls. Creating an account to bash the progressives you claim to be among doesn’t rest well with anyone here. We didn’t ask for your policing services.
Stop wandering into troll territory.
June 29th, 2008 at 12:27 pmThis…..this is your attempt to discuss?
Look, the man(mccain) is of low brow intelligence. This gaff just points that out. He graduated 4th from the bottom of his class and probably eeked by much as bush did.
They are obviously not intelligent enough to manage the job at hand. I for one am tired of the dumbing down of the English language for political reasons(to cover for their basic ignorance). I am looking for intelligent leadership for a change.
June 29th, 2008 at 12:28 pmIf McCain had at least some up-to-date knowledge of gas prices, he would have provided that information regardless of the wording of the question. But he doesn’t care.
June 29th, 2008 at 12:30 pmTo wkiernan:
The first thing I’d recommend is not to slap labels like “idiot” on people who might make something different of a situation.
And to everyone else:
The McCain quote looks like little more than a quick attempt to ward off an attack (”prove to us that you’re not out of touch”). This is nothing close to the scale of the Baghdad market gaffe, or anything of the sort. In the end I’m mostly inclined to shrug it off.
June 29th, 2008 at 12:30 pmSo in the end you would say that these gas price increases will not effect your life in any way…is that what you are saying……that mccain shouldn’t even be concerned with this.
June 29th, 2008 at 12:37 pmFrom the update, another guy who doesn’t know:
It’s not rocket science. When oil people get in office then oil will go up…mccain is an oil guy too.
June 29th, 2008 at 12:44 pmTo Fred:
I see this quote as not particularly revealing about McCain’s take on the energy crisis. It looks a lot more like the kind of “gotcha” politics we’re sick of being taunted with ourselves. Let’s use our brains and vote against McCain for what he’s really said about it (gas tax holiday, offshore drilling, etc).
June 29th, 2008 at 12:55 pmgibson3 Says:
I kinda see your point although I disagree. I am tired of liberals being the civilized ones.
You say:
You mean of course things like the dukakis smear or whitewater or impeachment of Clinton or swift boat liars, etc. Should I mention rev. Wright or muslim background lied or elitists implications by the mccain dynasty….
Well, until we are back in power we must play as dirty as they do and no holds barred. Then we can be benevolent once again. If they trip, we should step on their heads. That is the way they have operated and you cannot fight fire with gentlemens behavior. This is a societal war. Truly good against evil and we must crush them before they destroy us.
They have proven that they will take our country to the bottom for profit….why should we let them. All of the rhetoric about gun laws and self-defense are flying…..I feel like I am defending a cherished way of life that is being threatened by evil and greedy men.
June 29th, 2008 at 1:04 pmDetached and out of touch! McCain doesn’t even bother looking at gas prices. Leave that to struggling middle class. Most of their paycheck now goes into gas so that they can get to their lousy low-paying jobs with little or no benefits at all. I call this THE GREAT AMERICAN RIP-OFF!
June 29th, 2008 at 1:13 pmGame of Life Says:
had, as long as you are trite and useless expect smears.
Another example of what a jerk you are.
An intelligent person would not spout off insults as you have a habit of doing, but would point out areas of disagreements and make your point. Are you able to do that?
As you disagreed with old hack you said:
Game of Life Says:
Old Hat: You don’t know the difference because you can’t read and comprehend. Your type is what I call a fence sitter. And any fool but a repug should know you aren’t going to agree with a candidate 100% of the time.
Most here would have stated their view instead of going to the garbage for trash words.
June 29th, 2008 at 1:17 pmTo Fred:
I do feel your pain, but I’m happy to note that the democrats this year have the best prospects that we’ve seen in a generation. This is a good moment to act less like victims and more like the majority that we have become. And taking the high road works: I can’t shake off the sense that Hillary Clinton’s primary defeat was self-inflicted because of her insistence on cheap attacks.
June 29th, 2008 at 1:22 pmgibson3 Says:
I agree with your last sentiment. I believe that the conservatives have shown the public more of their true agenda than was healthy for them.
As far as acting like victims, I resent that somewhat. People are hurting because of the conservative movement. They have cause pain and death, it is undeniable. It will take strong resolve to wrest power from the power hungry.
I want to see dedicated people working for Americans. That includes politicians, medical workers, teachers, etc. The bottom line is not necessarily best for societies. Dog eat dog leads to violence always. The mindset must be changed.
June 29th, 2008 at 1:29 pmgibson3: The first thing I’d recommend is not to slap labels like “idiot” on people who might make something different of a situation.
I can’t accept that. This guy is a Senator. It’s his job to know that the price of gas has risen 50% in the last year. This is a fact of gigantic importance to the national economy, and it’s all over the news media. Is it too much to ask McCain to do his job halfway competently?
And that’s hardly McCain’s only lapse. We’ve been at war in Iraq for five years now and Mr. Big Deal Military Expert is still ignorant that the Salafis who call themselves “Al Qaida in Iraq” are not allies with the Shiite Iranian mullacracy. He had to have Senator Lieberman pop up while he was giving a speech and whisper in his ear to tell him he was making a fool of himself.
The fact that McCain is so blissfully unaware of crucial facts like these is absolutely disgraceful. He’s simply not fit for the job of Senator, and even less so for the job of President. I called McCain an idiot and I stand by it.
June 29th, 2008 at 1:32 pmWe have just had 8 years of a guy who didn’t know geographically where these countries were located and didn’t know the names of leaders of countries around the world. As you say, it is time for competent leadership.
I am tired of going backwards and being the laughing stock of the world. They have blemished our standing with thier lack of intelligence.
June 29th, 2008 at 1:40 pmMcCain knows the conditions on the ground in Iraq. Now he needs to occasionally leave the ‘green zone’ in the United States of America and see what conditions are.
June 29th, 2008 at 2:31 pmSorry wkiernan, thought you were referring to another poster
June 29th, 2008 at 2:40 pmNo wonder you guys have been marginalized. You are out of touch with reality. Poor oil companies….yeah that will fly in the coming months…keep flying that flag.
We hate our government officials because they are evil and greedy and not good for America.
June 29th, 2008 at 2:45 pmWhere is it indicated that McCain does not know this to be true?
June 29th, 2008 at 2:54 pmFred wants intellectual elitism in his leadership so that he’s not embarrassed when he travels among his international friends.
That’s just precious.
June 29th, 2008 at 2:56 pmPotfry Says:
You tough guys have cost lives. There will be consequences. You will probably weasel out of it but someone will pay for your ignorance.
June 29th, 2008 at 3:01 pmI would be glad to discuss with anyone who wants to actually talk about the issues but I am done with the children who just want attention potfry and triple whatever.
June 29th, 2008 at 3:03 pmGame of Life Says:
He remembers all right. He pumped gas when it was $.15 a gallon.
He is out of touch with anything in the reality arena.
June 28th, 2008 at 8:44 pm
I think the last time he drove by itself was in a race against Ben Hur and Messala…
June 29th, 2008 at 3:51 pmWhy are we still considering McCain can’t remember the price of gas?
Once again, I agree with Jon Ponder at PensitoReview.com.
McCain Says He Doesn’t Know Price of Gas – But HOW Is That Possible? by Jon Ponder
June 29th, 2008 at 4:19 pm
TrippleKick Says:
I do, however, like the idea of a gas tax holiday.
You would save about $.10/gal. If your fill-up costs about the same as mine – $60.00 on avg. – you’d save a grand total of $6.00.
On the other hand – our government would lose about $10 billion in revenues, so in order to pay for the tax cut, we would have to cut back on highway construction and maintenance.
So typical of the suck-it-dry reThUGlieCON mentalitiy.
June 29th, 2008 at 4:43 pmUh . . . He did. From the same interview:
June 29th, 2008 at 4:43 pm
Maverick Says:
misshusseinmolly Says:
Well mav. I guess you showed her. Don’t change the fact that mccain is a loser and this is all a bad joke.
June 29th, 2008 at 6:38 pmpos
June 29th, 2008 at 6:46 pmThinkprogress is lying. At no point was McCain asked about the current price of gas. He was asked about the last time he pumped gas, which could have been the 1970’s for all we know.
Even in the update, Thinkprogress repeats the lie that McCain was asked about the current price of gas. You tell me, readers, if this exchange shows such question:
June 29th, 2008 at 8:55 pm
Haha! It simply amazes me there are still some people dutifully carrying water for this corrupt, regressive, repubLIEcon party.
Baaaah, you sheep.
June 29th, 2008 at 10:56 pmMcCain doesn’t drive and is too busy with paperwork inthe back seat. Easy answer, morons.
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FIRST , keep in mind that to drop the fuel tax, the local gov’ts would crash. We must use the 3R to replace taxes lost from replaced fuel through green energy (Yes, we have it ready to go!)
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1. RETHINK: America must see globally on what America is capable of in our current state of technology, engineering and meet the demands that face the world.
Private Sector framework is in place and current laws allow the 3R to happen. The Progressive attitude of John McCain to get things done by crossing party lines will resurrect America.
2. REFORM: The American people must demand higher quality products and less restricted trade routes for Made in USA components. We will lead the way of MFG again!
The USA will reform its dead manufacturing base
3. REINVENT: America and Americans must reinvent themselves to reach and maintain these standards and by sheer American ingenuity, control the world’s marketplace in the competitive manner, as the USA has always been proud to be #1.
NUTS AND BOLTS of the plan are simple.
Billions of savings equates to millions of lost tax revenue from energy companies. The US needs a separate tax revenue source before we can move away from fossil fuels.
McCain 3R solution.
McCain’s 3R is about technical, closely monitored and rapid hands on training from pros to create new pros. Thousands of currently-job-displaced “once leaders in the manufacturing arena” will be asked to train and play instructor rolls in the 3R plan. Paid, of course, as these new leaders will help create a whole new style of prosperous America. A massive restructure providing thousands New American MFG means millions of new jobs for infrastructure alone.
We have the buildings, needs and infrastructure to do this!
New jobs is the mainstay for Creating a new guard for Social Security.
This is the new place for financial speculators to invest!
McCain’s Progressive nature embodies Theodore Roosevelt more than any US presidential candidate in history since the original Rough Rider blazed the greatest era of growth in America.
We need John McCain to lead our nation with the same type of change.
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IF Obama is elected he would crush this nation by doing the following:
Obama’s World Poverty Bill (google it) would be passed and take ALL of the US Gross Domestic Profit earnings to give to the UN for distribution to African nations (seriously, GOOGLE IT) (All 7%. Which is the profit margin).
There goes the US cash gifts to support Israel!
Guns would be also gathered up according to Obama’s Global Poverty Bill plan (Did you Google it yet?) and the US would go into massive civil war.
Hey.. the lefties are unarmed anyway, so that might not be so bad!
Obama would tax the investor class and no new small businesses would come into being (esp with the bank failures going on at the moment and no new loans being issued).
America would stagnate and begin to fall apart.
Obama’s tax on the investor class also takes away incentives for lower classes to strive to become better people!
Did you hope to begin your own business someday?
Obama says NO!
Obama must keep us in our place, after-all.
Obama would immediately tax the large corporations which are already just barely balanced between the democrat instituted union demands and simply closing up and moving overseas or to Mexico.
The USA corporate infrastructure would be detroyed within a year.
Obama would force the remaining small businesses to pay totally unaffordable health care for employees and they too, would close up and go out of business even before finding health care, IF it were available. This will really hurt the women business owners who employ mostly younger women in retail, who have higher health care coverage. THEN he comes up with some LIE that he wants to give small business 5k per covered worker. DO you realize how many workers there are in small businesses? How would he pay for thise TRILLIONS?!! Talk about not even thinking about how grand of a lie he tries to weave.
Jane… Looks like you need to become a waitress again.
Obama will over tax and over extend this country so quickly and at the worst time that we will DIE as a nation.
If you want the USA to die, then you surely want Obama to become president and vice versa.
Israel will fall apart and diappear if the USA falls.
The US pays Israel just enough to stay afloat with all of it’s military needs against the very countries that McCain defends Israel from, YET, Obama supports and wants to discuss politics with these same terrorist groups over crumpettes and tea.
Note to Obama:
Terrorists do not eat crumpettes, they send their brainwashed neighbors into tea N crumpette shops with bombs strapped to their bodies. They do not negotiate!
This is not some game where we can push reset and this certainly is not a basketball game or charisma pagaent.
This is the cold hard reality of Obama that people play deaf and dumb to.
This is real life.
July 18th, 2008 at 2:21 amAre you awake and ready to learn about the survival of our nations?
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