Comments on: After Denying ‘Involvement’ In Iraq’s No-Bid Oil Contracts, U.S. Revealed To Be ‘Integral’ To Deals

By: biashawk

biashawk — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 19:12:03 +0000

I agree with Yesca_Again, we have put ourselves in this position by our votes. However, there’s one point that everyone ALWAYS seems to forget. The President’s power is quite limited. The president only has the power to hold war for 60 days. After that, he must be endorsed by Congress. Also, Congress is the bill-providing body, not the president. To continue this point, money spending must go through the bill-to-law process, meaning all our money spending is caused by congress’ wishes, though the president gets to choose whether he endorses congress’ wishes. Go back to high school and learn about political process again, please.
In conclusion, it’s not just the president we need to focus on, but our Congressional candidates as well, if not more.
Reasonably yours,
Biashawk

By: Yesca_Again

Yesca_Again — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 18:06:29 +0000

How long are “we” to continue this us vs them excuse? Like it or not Bush is “our” president, the crimes, against our Constitution, civil rights, the people of Iraq, the economy, etc are the result of all our actions & inactions. We allowed our government cabal to prostitute us for the pimps of the real power. Shakespear’s “Whether this nobler in the mind to suffer the slings & arrows of outraged fortune or to take up arms against them..” is trully the question. How do we as a people answer it?
November’s election could be the answer, or only another fasade which the fearfull will accept no matter the out come. (Remember 2000!)
So many are focused not on the National level but their own immediate reality & prosperity that it’s OK just as it is. That’s until they like the factory workers, farmers, computer techs, etc are layed off, homeless, incarcerated, what ever. But then it’ll be to late. No we don’t torture, kidnap, destory, invalidate lifetimes of sacrifice, not Americans.
Again, we are participants in all the evils done in our name, we did it, we do it , we can stop it. In every thing we do, say, and allow. Responsibility of each of us must shift to a longer, broader vision of what the we should aspire to, not what the I can accumulate. Real democracy & freedom is a helicious ride, why settle for less? Vote, protest, take action, demand the elected do their job, pay attention of how they do it, it never ends. Never give up hope, never give them that power!

By: YouCantHandleDaTruth

YouCantHandleDaTruth — Mon, 30 Jun 2008 19:00:30 +0000

Jus sayin, if it looks like a morally bankrupt duck and walks like….

By: MapleStreet

MapleStreet — Mon, 30 Jun 2008 18:07:29 +0000

As Gomer Pyle would say, “Well surprise, surprise, surprise.”

Now as the US was involved, why did they deny it ? What would they want to hide ?

By: zhoward

zhoward — Mon, 30 Jun 2008 17:52:25 +0000

More lies. And this is going to hurt the administration’s credibility? What credibility? Something needs to be done to stop this.

By: Roket

Roket — Mon, 30 Jun 2008 17:51:28 +0000

Perhaps Iraq is just thinking ahead. (Something the US is currently unable to do.) Perhaps their plans are to let the Oil Companies develop their oil fields for them before they nationalize them. Besides, Oil Company Contracts are made to be broken, just like US law.

By: A Patriot Acting

A Patriot Acting — Mon, 30 Jun 2008 17:41:22 +0000

The worse, and so far most least mentioned, part of this story is that the State Dept worked hand in hand with a consulting group called Tatweer (arabic for “development”), a Washington consulting group that is teeming with oil lobbyists:

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/06/todays_must_read_359.php

Fess up Dana, the US Gov’t is INDEED integrally involved in lobbying for the oil companies.

p.s.-Tatweer is also the organization behind the Iraq skateboard/theme park if I’m not mistaken

Lobbying for Iraqi oil goes back at least as far as back as May 2003. Remember Paul Bremer?

http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:d6SkOGfP4h8J:www.globalpolicy.org/security/oil/2006/0714confidential.htm+paul+bremer+oil+lobbyists+iraq&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us

By: Jane E. Schneider

Jane E. Schneider — Mon, 30 Jun 2008 17:40:50 +0000

“citing issues like sovereignty, when we have our hands right in the middle of it” undermines the U.S.’s credibility.

Yeah, well, just add that to the list of a thousand and one other things that BushCo has done to undermine the U.S.’s credibility.

By: texaslady

texaslady — Mon, 30 Jun 2008 17:39:43 +0000

And now bushie wants Iran…and our representatives just keep handing him the money. The sheeple believe bush is keeping the axis of evil away while the axis of evil is right here in the White House.

By: Leftside Annie

Leftside Annie — Mon, 30 Jun 2008 17:34:10 +0000

It has always been about the oil. Always.

By: shoeless

shoeless — Mon, 30 Jun 2008 17:30:56 +0000

“Iraq is a sovereign country,

Since when is “sovereign” a synonym of “occupied”.

By: Gregor Samsa

Gregor Samsa — Mon, 30 Jun 2008 17:30:09 +0000

This also comes after we were told, time and again, that suggesting oil had anything to do whatsoever with the invasion was unAmerican, and could hurt the troops’ morale.

Well, there you have it: Reality does have a liberal bias…

By: texaslady

texaslady — Mon, 30 Jun 2008 17:27:53 +0000

How many exposed lies from this administration will it take to wake up the most close minded conservative? Our military was used to benefit oil companies that are sucking the life out of Americans. So, kill our kids and bleed us economically for your profit. Is this what America is about ?

By: 5th Estate

5th Estate — Mon, 30 Jun 2008 17:26:36 +0000

“Iraq is a sovereign country, and it can make decisions based on how it feels that it wants to move forward in its development of its oil resources,” said White House spokeswoman Dana Perino.

Oh Dana, you are so cute when you are stupid! You’re stupid all the time, so you’re cute all the time! That’s so-o cute! And stooopid!

By: po

po — Mon, 30 Jun 2008 17:25:00 +0000

so, what exactly is the democratic party’s response to flat out lying by the Press Secretary for the POTUS? I mean, if all Presidential power resides in the President, then shouldn’t the President know what is going on and be bound (by say honor, ethics, a sense of responsibility, the law) to tell the American People – his darn boss after all – the truth about such weighty matters?

By: IgnoranceIsNotBliss

IgnoranceIsNotBliss — Mon, 30 Jun 2008 17:24:29 +0000

artile=article. Sorry people.

By: IgnoranceIsNotBliss

IgnoranceIsNotBliss — Mon, 30 Jun 2008 17:23:10 +0000

I posted this in the open thread, but after reading about the State Department being involved with these oil deals earlier today, I think it’s okay to post it again on this thread.

I grew very suspicious when I read the artile in the link.

By: RantingTommy

RantingTommy — Mon, 30 Jun 2008 17:20:32 +0000

At least only the cowards believe them nowadays.

REAL Americans know better.

By: shoeless

shoeless — Mon, 30 Jun 2008 17:16:37 +0000

pbg Says:

But, why is the U.S. fronting for three foreign oil companies…French Total, Dutch Shell, and British BP?

Because the President and Vice President are oilmen. Their loyalty is not to the United States, but to Their People.
Same reason they’re loyal to the interests of corporations based in the Bahamas and the Cayman Islands. Itdoesn’t matter: they’re Their People.

Exactly. There is no such thing as an American oil company. They are all multi-national corporations. The invasion of Iraq was all about making sure that Iraq’s oil fields did not remain nationalized, as they were under Saddam. The Bush administration is doing everything they can to give over control of Iraq’s oil fields to the multi-national oil corporations.

By: po

po — Mon, 30 Jun 2008 17:09:04 +0000

gee, the administration lies again. wow. wonder what Congress will do now. as addington pointed out, all executive power resides in the President, so I guess the President lied. whoppee. let’s add it to that long list of lies and half truths.