Right-Wing Apoplectic Over Pixar’s WALL-E: ‘Malthusian Fear Mongering,’ ‘Fascistic Elements’
Right-Wing Apoplectic Over Pixar’s WALL-E: ‘Malthusian Fear Mongering,’ ‘Fascistic Elements’
This weekend, Pixar’s latest film “WALL-E” debuted at No. 1, earning $65 million at the box office. The film has been hailed by critics, scoring a whopping 97 percent “Fresh” rating on RottenTomatoes.
The film portrays a lonely robot’s quest for love, as he is left to clean up a trashed earth. Meanwhile, the over-indulged humans wait it out aboard gigantic spaceships run by a monolithic corporation-turned-government that “resemble spas for the fat and lazy.”
Somehow, this touching love story has outraged the radical right:
Shannen Coffin: From the first moment of the film, my kids were bombarded with leftist propaganda about the evils of mankind. It’s a shame, too, because the robot had promise. The story was just awful, however.
Greg Pollowitz: It was like a 90-minute lecture on the dangers of over consumption, big corporations, and the destruction of the environment. … Much to Disney’s chagrin, I will do my part to avoid future environmental armageddon by boycotting any and all WALL-E merchandise and I hope others join my crusade.
Glenn Beck: I can’t wait to teach my kids how we’ve destroyed the Earth. … Pixar is teaching. I can’t wait. You know if your kid has ever come home and said, “Dad, how come we use so much styrofoam,” oh, this is the movie for you.
Dirty Harry: Have we lost Pixar? Have we lost the wonderful studio who brought us The Incredibles and Ratatouille to Bush Derangement Syndrome? Here you have a winning streak going back ten-years, enormous amounts of public goodwill, equal amounts of credibility as serious storytellers, and they stop things cold, yanking you out of the story with the liberal nonsense. Quite a disappointment.
Jonah Goldberg: I agree with the charges of hypocrisy. I agree that the Malthusian fear mongering was annoying
Goldberg posted a lengthy letter from a reader decrying the film’s “fascistic elements,” which apparently include the movie’s discussion of the environment, a character “getting in touch with her emotional, passionate inner self,” and the use of the color red.
Now we can add a critically-acclaimed and universally-beloved cartoon character to Goldberg’s enormous list of evidence of “liberal facism,” which already includes vegetarianism, love of animals, and Captain Planet.
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July 1st, 2008 at 12:28 pmJesus wept....
July 1st, 2008 at 12:29 pmJust as I thought... freedom of speech only applies to Republics and the Right Wingnuts for which they stand. If this movie is a problem for these idiots, then they should just stay home or go visit Disney and spend their money of some Chinese Disney crap. Leave the rest of us alone. I tire of these idiots easily.
July 1st, 2008 at 12:30 pmGotta wonder how these toadies enjoyed Ice Age I and II..?
July 1st, 2008 at 12:31 pmThis is rich. I can't wait to hear Ms. Be-otch Malkin's rant on this, as well as billo's.
I bet they will be foaming at the mouth.
Heh heh
July 1st, 2008 at 12:31 pmLiberal Facism is an oxymoron. This translates to Jonah Goldberg is a moron.
July 1st, 2008 at 12:32 pmGood grief. What a bunch of flarking IDIOTS.
July 1st, 2008 at 12:33 pmRelax, Right Wing. It's a fantasy, ya know, like The Path To 9/11.
Geeze, I hate conservative ideologues.
July 1st, 2008 at 12:33 pmIt would be cool if the robot was gay.
July 1st, 2008 at 12:33 pmThese people live in a f ucking dream world:
Humans are always good, and we should never ever expose our children to conserving energy or consuming less in general. That way they won't notice that we've shit in our own bed.
La la la...
July 1st, 2008 at 12:34 pmSo, who does the robot fall in love with, Laura Bush?
July 1st, 2008 at 12:34 pmThe movie shows mankind devolving into polluting, obese, lazy fools (Republicans) - can't imagine why they'd oppose those images considering they look and act like Karl Rove :)
July 1st, 2008 at 12:34 pmGreg Pollowitz: It was like a 90-minute lecture on the dangers of over consumption, big corporations, and the destruction of the environment. … Much to Disney’s chagrin, I will do my part to avoid future environmental armageddon by boycotting any and all WALL-E merchandise and I hope others join my crusade.
This is my favorite. How much did Pollowitz complain when every other movie he took his kid to was one big commercial merchandising at Burger King?
July 1st, 2008 at 12:35 pmOoooOOOooooOOOOh!!!! Teaching kids - kids! - to respect the Earth!
OMG, that's TERRIBLE!!!!
Shame on them!!! Those BASTARDS!!! Those awful, horrible BASTARDS!!!!
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OK. I'm done now. /snark off
July 1st, 2008 at 12:35 pmdbadass Says:
It would be cool if the robot was gay.
Isn't he? The robots can't reproduce after all!!! ROTFL!
July 1st, 2008 at 12:35 pmRepublicans/Conservatives with McCain as their Nominee=People with nothing better to do (than attack PIXAR).
Seriously, is this the best they can do?
How is this innaccurate or propaganda? We have economic crises up the wazoo the world over, largely due to large corporations getting no bid contracts, feeding off of war, and being near completely unregulated.
The environment is in trouble as well, if we keep going the way we are going WALL-E could end up being prophetic.
Multiple failing wars/occupations, another one on the way, an economy in recession, millions with no health insurance, a broken military...and THIS is what they find important enough to get enraged over?
I weep for humanity.
July 1st, 2008 at 12:35 pmClose, Badmoonman. The difference is that WALL-E was actually a GOOD movie, unlike PT911, which is pure unadulterated crap.
July 1st, 2008 at 12:37 pm.
... And when they killed Bambi's mommy I learned...
IT'S A FRICKIN' CARTOON!!!!!
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July 1st, 2008 at 12:38 pm.
What part of Wall-E is factual?
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July 1st, 2008 at 12:39 pmliberal traitor Says:
Multiple failing wars/occupations, another one on the way, an economy in recession, millions with no health insurance, a broken military…and THIS is what they find important enough to get enraged over?
July 1st, 2008 at 12:35 pm
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Stay tuned - I fully expect the anti-science forces to make another assault on evolution this before the election.
July 1st, 2008 at 12:40 pmMan, are those righties really gonna feel marginalized as this movie takes of as one of the biggest block-busters of all time!
It's almost like they know that they are headed for extinction...
July 1st, 2008 at 12:40 pmAmazing - isn't it? These people (and I use the term loosely) have gone completely off the deep end. Heaven forbid we try to teach kids to respect each other, take care of our planet, and accept and embrace the differences we have. All my hopes are on a complete democratic landslide in November - without that, I think we are doomed - sigh :(
July 1st, 2008 at 12:41 pmAnd damn that sl*t Murphy Brown anyway!!!!
July 1st, 2008 at 12:42 pmMax-1 Says:
What part of Wall-E is factual?
- - a $65million opening, which is the ONLY thing that matters to Disney.
July 1st, 2008 at 12:43 pmHow Orwellian that a movement that mislabels itself as "conservative" is so hell-bent on promoting and defending over-consumption and gluttony.
July 1st, 2008 at 12:43 pmThese are the same "people" that believe the fictional "Pathway to 9/11" is a historic document.
July 1st, 2008 at 12:44 pmThe robots can’t reproduce after all!!!
- - In the sequel, WALL-E wlll mate with a Teletubby.
July 1st, 2008 at 12:45 pmConserutards hate reality, and especially cartoon reality...it hurts their two brain cells.
July 1st, 2008 at 12:48 pmSeriously, tightie righties just crack me the fck up!
This is my favorite:
Shannen Coffin: From the first moment of the film, my kids were bombarded with leftist propaganda about the evils of mankind.
Gawd forbid we would actually watch an entertaining film that just perhaps would have a lesson or two about selfish overabundance.
But wait, if they want to ban this cartoon due to it's moral, then maybe we should boycott all nursery rhymes!
No more Hanzel and Gretel! Say goodbye to 3 Little Pigs! Little Red Riding Hood? Gone!
...and just for the record, I sometimes do enjoy mindless entertainment with my children, like SpongeBob SquarePants.
July 1st, 2008 at 12:49 pm(wait, he's gay, isn't he? Nevermind)
Badmoodman Says:
- - In the sequel, WALL-E wlll mate with a Teletubby.
July 1st, 2008 at 12:45 pm
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And WALL-E's very existence is a statement on abstinence-only sex education, as he's clearly the illegitimate son of Ally Sheedy and Johnny Five
July 1st, 2008 at 12:49 pmSo many people I know live with a feeling as if they are meant to do something big... it hit me the other day that it is up to us, this generation in particular, to make the decisions about the environment that will affect generations to come, or the doom of our race. That's what's at stake, here.
What more could it be? We can't do enough and the people who are getting in the way are mostly bark w/ little bite. Their rationalizations are weak and easily traced back to money and personal gain. Their yelping will seem louder the closer we get to a consensus, but that's all it is. These people are in their "last throes, if you will" and should not deter us because it literally is up to us.
July 1st, 2008 at 12:49 pmBadmoodman Says:
Relax, Right Wing. It’s a fantasy, ya know, like The Path To 9/11.
Geeze, I hate conservative ideologues.
These are the same people that believe the earth is 8000 years old - I don't think we can expect them to have a good grip on what's FANTASY and REAL! ROTFL!
July 1st, 2008 at 12:50 pmYou know you've done something correctly when the right wing nutbags hate it.
Bravo to Pixar!
July 1st, 2008 at 12:50 pmTheRadicalRightisRadicallyWrong Says:
Man, are those righties really gonna feel marginalized as this movie takes of as one of the biggest block-busters of all time!
It’s almost like they know that they are headed for extinction…
No, they won't go extinct. The rich one's will wait it out aboard gigantic spaceships run by a monolithic corporation-turned-government that “resemble spas for the fat and lazy.”
July 1st, 2008 at 12:51 pmWhile we progressives are left to clean up a trashed earth.
I'm going to see this movie now.
Thanks ridiculous windbag rightwing morons!!
July 1st, 2008 at 12:53 pmCan these idiots name ONE species on Earth that has done more damage to the planet?
July 1st, 2008 at 12:53 pmBadmoodman @24,
But what else is factual being taught that Shannon, Greg, Glenn, Harry and Jonah are so afraid of...?
I mean, was STAR WARS such a threat? R2D2? C3PO?
Oh, I forgot.
July 1st, 2008 at 12:54 pmSTAR WARS was about EMPIRE... and that's a good thing. NVM.
Zooey, not only will I take my 3 youngest children to see this movie, I may actually wear my wife's "Mama for Obama" T-shirt, just to confuse the hell out of the protesting tightie righties!
July 1st, 2008 at 12:54 pmHeh!
DRxJ Says:
I may actually wear my wife’s “Mama for Obama” T-shirt, just to confuse the hell out of the protesting tightie righties!
July 1st, 2008 at 12:54 pm
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Pfff- right-wingers don't protest. They just sit home and throw beer cans at the talking box.
July 1st, 2008 at 12:58 pmWow, it's like having several critic's choice awards bestowed at once! These guys like Beck and Goldberg are this generation's George Constanzas (without the laughs of course.) Recalling Seinfeld's "Opposite Day" episode, the right's reaction to Wall-e tells me it's certainly a sure-fire mega-hit. Hell, look what their 'reviews' did for "Fahrenheit 9-11" and "Sicko."
July 1st, 2008 at 12:58 pmAs soon as I heard the theme forthe movie, I knew they were going to have a conniption... the same way they did over "Happy Feet".
July 1st, 2008 at 12:58 pmAnd back here on Earth, we have another charming example:
The vile corporate S. F. Chronicle newspaper, which just raised its price 50% to 75 cents a copy, is screaming about how local recyclers are getting cans and bottles to redeem. Kicking the poorest of the poor, while they are down.
July 1st, 2008 at 1:01 pmMeanwhile, the Chronicle has been happily supporting the traitorous Bush gangster regime for the last eight years: endless wars of imperial aggression, electronically stolen elections, spying on all Americans, endlessly lying, incompetence, arrogance and corporate greed run amuck. No problemo.
There must be a sufficient replacement rate in our population, enough to keep a steady montly income streaming to the tobacco industry.
Wasn't there a conservanut recently releasing a "study" that liberals were "more material" than conservatives?
July 1st, 2008 at 1:01 pmThey just can't stand that reality has a liberal bias. These people are rotten to the core, and should be extracted from society. Let's all pitch in and buy them an island somewhere so they can establish their perfect corporo-theo-white supremo- government.
Either that or let the south secede again. Let them have what they want and let the rest of us get on with the business of making this a better country and planet.
July 1st, 2008 at 1:04 pmDRxJ Says:
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Zooey, not only will I take my 3 youngest children to see this movie, I may actually wear my wife’s “Mama for Obama” T-shirt, just to confuse the hell out of the protesting tightie righties!
Heh!
July 1st, 2008 at 12:54 pm
I'm about to go see the men over in Portland -- I'll take them to see it!
Make sure you have someone take a picture of you in that t-shirt. :-D
July 1st, 2008 at 1:06 pmI think Goldberg might have gotten Captain Planet mixed up with Captain Underpants.
July 1st, 2008 at 1:09 pmI think the conservatives are just jealous that Veggie Tales bombed at the box office.
July 1st, 2008 at 1:17 pmCal Malenky Says:
Can these idiots name ONE species on Earth that has done more damage to the planet?
July 1st, 2008 at 12:53 pm
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Vogons?
July 1st, 2008 at 1:17 pmcheck_mark Says:
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dbadass Says:
It would be cool if the robot was gay.
By that time the gay glitch should be worked out.
This is 700 years into the future right?
July 1st, 2008 at 1:15 pm
Don't be ridiculous.
July 1st, 2008 at 1:24 pmGashee morphousite, thou expungiest quoopisk!
Fripping lyshus wimbgunts, awhilst moongrovenly kormzibs.
Bleem miserable venchit! Bleem forever mestinglish asunder frapt!
Gerond withoutitude form into formless bloit, why not then? Moose!!
I miss my C64. I'm sure the family I donated it to one year for Christmas has thrown it in the trash by now.
July 1st, 2008 at 1:28 pmI blame The Planet of the Apes
July 1st, 2008 at 1:31 pmIts always amazing to see what folks can try to get banned. In print, the American Library Association maintains information on books that have been challenged and even has a week of celebration for these books.
http://www.ala.org/ala/oif/bannedbooksweek/bannedbooksweek.cfm
July 1st, 2008 at 1:34 pmWhen I go to demonstrations, I wear my old boonie hat(yes, I still have it, old & worn, but still serviceable), which is decorated a full 360 degrees with pins & buttons. One of them read; PROUD TO BE EVERYTHING THE RIGHT-WING HATES
July 1st, 2008 at 1:35 pmGreg Pollowitz: It was like a 90-minute lecture on the dangers of over consumption, big corporations, and the destruction of the environment.
And the problem with this is.....
I would guess the right would be upset about a film that exposes them and their methods to children and adults alike.
Good for you Pixar!
July 1st, 2008 at 1:49 pmHow insecure is the right in their "superior" ideology that cartoons (remember Spongebob and Teletubbies promote teh gay?) and fantasy movie characters like Wall-E are such dire threats to them and their well-being? But then again, we're talking about the same bunch of ass-klowns who saw terrorism being promoted by Rachel Ray's scarf in a Dunkin' Donuts ad. What a sad bunch of losers and idiots.
Just saying . . .
July 1st, 2008 at 1:50 pmGoldberg posted a lengthy letter from a reader decrying the film’s “fascistic elements,” which apparently include the movie’s discussion of the environment, a character “getting in touch with her emotional, passionate inner self,” and the use of the color red.
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Does Goldberg even know what "fascism" means? Or is he one of the many who thinks, "I don't know what it means, but it must mean something really really bad, so I'll just hurl it as a random slam."
July 1st, 2008 at 1:51 pmDon't these Right Wing Conservatives know that WALL-E believes he came from creation, not evolution.
July 1st, 2008 at 1:51 pmI must state, for the Record, that it was Not the Vogon's fault that the Earth was destroyed! If we'd only gotten up and gone to Alpha Centauri we'd have found the notice of its impending destruction there! If we can't be bothered to travel a mere 4.5 light years to check the notices, we hardly deserve the planet now, do we? Besides, the dolphins were nice enough to give us this duplicate, so the Vogon's destruction of the original hardly counts!
July 1st, 2008 at 1:55 pmIPC&B&STC!
Hi Daryll. Who cares?
July 1st, 2008 at 1:57 pmIt's a friggin movie. Geez, wouldn't want the right wingers to do something for future generations.
July 1st, 2008 at 1:58 pmWonder how many people decide to see a movie every time a holier than now right winger goes of the deep end about it?
take care
tonyand guidedog Lido
dbadass Says:
Hi Daryll. Who cares?
Hi DB, Who's Daryll?
July 1st, 2008 at 1:59 pmDoes Goldberg even know what “fascism” means
July 1st, 2008 at 2:01 pm
Glenn Beck: I can’t wait to teach my kids how we’ve destroyed the Earth.
Maybe you should teach your kids how to save the Earth instead.
http://progressiveworldreview.com
July 1st, 2008 at 2:01 pmIf Daryll has his drawers in an uproar it must be a good movie
July 1st, 2008 at 2:02 pmDaryll
July 1st, 2008 at 2:03 pmWonderful to see you on a non-gay thread.
Unless you believe Wall-E is gay. Like Tinky Winky.
If you dont like Harry Potter or Wall-E, then DON'T F*N WACTH THEM. It is that simple.
Has Glenn Beck ever said ANYTHING that doesn't make him look like a complete and utter dooshbag?
July 1st, 2008 at 2:04 pmDaryll Says:
Jesus is not pleased with Wall-E and Harry Potter.
July 1st, 2008 at 1:56 pm
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I think you're confusing Jesus and Voldemort again.
July 1st, 2008 at 2:07 pmDaryll Says:
Jesus is not pleased with Wall-E and Harry Potter.
I didn't see his reviews of those movies. Trashed them pretty good, eh?
July 1st, 2008 at 2:07 pmDaryll says;
I say: So?
July 1st, 2008 at 2:09 pmHey Daryll:
July 1st, 2008 at 2:09 pmI don't want to freak you out but the word is that Davey of Davey and Goliath digs dudes. I think it is great that he grew up to over come that ridiculous family of his but I know you get all weirded out about shit like that.
No, every American driving an SUV, consuming more than anyone else, destroying the planet... no, that's not something that needs to be discussed.
G-d forbid we teach our children to recycle and conserve. Leave it to the baby boomers to yet again not give a sh*t about anyone who has to live on this ball of dirt AFTER them.
July 1st, 2008 at 2:12 pmWe really need to find a pastime that will entertain members of the braindead extreme right wing without offending them.
How about pulling wings off flies and burning frogs with magnifying glasses?
Yup, that's the ticket!
July 1st, 2008 at 2:20 pmHmmm, that's funny, Darryl....
That's not what He told me - I saw Jesus down at AMC in Burbank. He told me that He really liked this film - and He said that the AMC has really good popcorn.
July 1st, 2008 at 2:21 pmso let me get this straight, people that celebrate the red states are saying the color red is fascist. and not only does the movie have leftist propaganda but it is also fascist. (but then again loadpants says hitler was a liberal) the supposed leftist propaganda is all about the "evils of mankind" from people whose reason to exist is to tell everyone to be afraid, be very afraid of all the evil of mankind. and there apparently no danger to overconsumption and destroying the environment. also funny is how the 25% that support bush are telling the 75% that they are deranged.
July 1st, 2008 at 2:25 pmCNL; watch it! A lot of us 'baby-boomers' were into the 1st Earth Day in 1970 and continue to recycle and preserve the environment before you were born.
Don't paint all of us with the same broad brush as uncaring slobs. I never owned a SUV and recycoe as much as I can.
Apology accepted.
July 1st, 2008 at 2:27 pmi don't care if conservatives don't like it.
they can stay home and watch
larry craig and david vitter in
"hercules vs. the mushroom people"
on fox.
leave our kids alone.
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thank you.
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July 1st, 2008 at 2:27 pmMust.
Bang.
Head.
Against.
Wall.
July 1st, 2008 at 2:27 pmThese people are absolutely and utterly insane.
July 1st, 2008 at 2:40 pmJesus has always had bad taste in movies, I wouldn't take His word for it. Go see the movie Daryll, and see if you agree with Jesus or think He's full of shit.
Better yet, wait for 200 years to have someone else write down what Jesus thought of the movies and popcorn. They will get it right, they always do.
July 1st, 2008 at 2:42 pmAnd Daryll, Jesus flat out lied to you about Huckabuck.
He's just fcking with you cause you get wound up so easy.
July 1st, 2008 at 2:49 pmDirty Harry: Have we lost Pixar? Have we lost the wonderful studio who brought us The Incredibles and Ratatouille to Bush Derangement Syndrome? Here you have a winning streak going back ten-years, enormous amounts of public goodwill, equal amounts of credibility as serious storytellers, and they stop things cold, yanking you out of the story with the liberal nonsense. Quite a disappointment.
Have they "lost Pixar?"
I can see why he'd gush over The Incredibles, with it's unabashedly-corporate viewpoint, that all the evils in the world are a direct result of tort lawyers, and their greedy, stupid clients. Now that Pixar doesn't portray Dirty Harry's favorite worldview, he's sad.
Poor Harry!
July 1st, 2008 at 2:53 pmDid anyone actually READ the letter to Jonah Goldberg by the dingbat who observed the use of the color red?
It's a frickin' hoot!!
July 1st, 2008 at 2:55 pmhttp://www.pluggedinonline.com, a site linked from Dr. Dobson's http://www.family.org, gives it a pretty good review from a Christian point of veiw.
Including this gem:
http://www.pluggedinonline.com/movies/movies/a0004114.cfm
Wonder how many TPers missed these allusions.
Review does mention some of the objections noted abopve in the quotes, but overall, the pluggedinonline review is very positive.
July 1st, 2008 at 2:58 pmI wonder how many TPers didn't give a shit.
July 1st, 2008 at 3:05 pmWOW!!
WALL-E was a good movie and truthful.
July 1st, 2008 at 3:10 pmdbadass Says:
I wonder how many TPers didn’t give a shit.
July 1st, 2008 at 3:05 pm
Many, many, bit is sure. But they'll use a lot of words letting you know this, won't they?
July 1st, 2008 at 3:10 pmSomebody please show these yoyos a DVD of The Lorax. I want to see Goldberg's head explode. Again.
July 1st, 2008 at 3:11 pmLeave it to the far right to take something as innocent as a kid's film and find the evils of liberalism all over it. Shameless sacks of sh*t.
July 1st, 2008 at 3:30 pmYeah, Bltbutt, thank you sooooooo much for posting that!!!
I'm absolutely going to consult Dr. Dobson from now on whenever I want to go see a movie...
/sarc off
July 1st, 2008 at 3:44 pmWe should have Dreamworks make a neo-con animated feature with the lead protagonist "Glenn" being a tycoon in the oil industry. That he has three wives and ten kids, but only two sons. He teaches his sons how to smoke, drink and do drugs...and when their mom's try to get them to stop, they extinguish their cigars on their faces and/or crack a beer bottle or their heads. Then when dad breaks down, he goes to church and tells his parson how he has two mistresses, has not paid his taxes in three years and thinks he killed a homeless person in the middle of nowhere, but that's a bit hazy because he was as high as a kite when that happened. So the parson helps the dad repent (for a large "donation" to the church) as the dad is born again, not in the funny way from "There Will Be Blood". So dad goes through the 12 steps, gets involved in talk radio and starts to make money to support his ever growing family.
The sons become involved with an organization called the "RNC" and they try to convince people that the economy isn't bad, but it's all "psychological" and that "trickle down" is the new black. Dad becomes the conservative voice of America, but is decried as the Mayor of Crazytown. Dad can't find pleasure in any form of media if it doesn't bend and kiss his shut-in, fascist a$$. In dad and the son's views, "liberal" is the new Nazi. The wives and daughters eventually all dress like characters from the show, "Little House on the Prairie" and are forbidden to know how to type, talk on a telephone or do anything but sew and care for the children through bartering and talking through a system of messenger pigeons.
The money flows, the ethics barely show in this Dreamworks animated masterpiece for the neo-con audience in:
Glenn Cheney: Life in Utah, TX
July 1st, 2008 at 3:56 pm76. weww - don't fight it. The conservates have declared that red is fascist. They are right. They are always right.
hence red state / conservative / republican = fascist.
And as Col Flagg opined, if you remove the 3rd, 5th and 6th letter from Reader's Digest, you get Red's Digest. Its all in code you know.
July 1st, 2008 at 4:03 pmbitblt Says:
Many, many, bit is sure. But they’ll use a lot of words letting you know this, won’t they?
this make no sense.
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thank you.
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July 1st, 2008 at 4:06 pmThanks joe cantwell. It needed to be said but I really didn't want to get into it.
July 1st, 2008 at 4:09 pmDaryll Says:
Jesus is not pleased with Wall-E and Harry Potter.
Oh, I knowwww....
For those of you not in the know like DoD psyop "daryll"
this is how Jesus refers to Bush and Cheney the MURDERERS.
Cheney is the future result of Harry Potter's slothful life...
July 1st, 2008 at 5:08 pmClassic spin technique: Turn the best description for one's own philosophies into a negative against one's opponent.
i.e. "You're fear mongering ... and please note that the DHS alert is up to orange, this week, because those damn terrorists know it's Independence Day week and they hate our freedom."
and
"No, YOU are!"
It strikes me as quite funny that those who seek to cram their own philosophies down another's throat would accuse them of being "fascist" while being blind to the fact that their own behavior exemplifies the term.
July 1st, 2008 at 5:39 pmLet's see...according to these critics environmentalism, vegetarians, love of animals, and being a humanist is fascism, but corporatism, war, pollution, torture, cruelty, and law breaking is normal.
These Cro-Magnons should really take up farming, trinket making, caring for the sick, and art, and stop bashing in heads and eating brains.
July 1st, 2008 at 6:36 pmAs ol' Scratch might have said about these wingnuts, "Fork 'em all!"
July 1st, 2008 at 6:47 pmAfter reading this post, I'm calling my daughter and BEGGING her to let me and the wife babysit the grandkids this weekend, just so I'll have an excuse to see it. If it has the right this upset, it's got to be "worth the price of admission". I mean what grandparent can resist the opportunity to "corrupt" the grandkids? I just consider it an addendum to have them watch Countdown with me and reading the articles here. I guess I'm just "evil". Unfortunately my daughter will probably beat me to the theater. :)
July 1st, 2008 at 7:00 pmSo much to-do over a kid's movie -- and though I haven't seen it yet, from what I understand...especially from their comments, I'm guessing the movie's wonderful. They always hate the best movies the most. Like the Chronicles of Narnia or The Golden Compass, those're pretty good examples.
*shakes my head* I wonder if they ever watched Invader Zim and thought it was a true and wonderful example of reality...? O_o
I guess not. They usually never actually go to see the stuff they critisize. Some do, I guess, looking at those comments...but most of 'em don't.
July 1st, 2008 at 7:35 pmBakadaneee
July 1st, 2008 at 7:42 pmi've seen wall-e. it's a very touching and beautiful movie. i would totally recommend it to anyone.
what the hell is wrong with reich-wing conservatives???????!!!!!!!!!!!! the spervillains in marvel comics are less evil
July 1st, 2008 at 8:14 pmWhy do so-called Conservatives hate conservation?
July 1st, 2008 at 9:30 pmIn answer to my own question, in today's upside down world liberals are conservative of the world's resources while conservatives want to use those resources liberally. So-called neo-conversatives actually employ classic liberal economics and so-called liberal progressives advocate the ideology of the classic conservative Teddy Roosevelt. Weird.
July 1st, 2008 at 9:39 pmIs anyone actually surprised by this? Honestly?
July 1st, 2008 at 9:47 pmI'll have to admit, when I first heard about this, I crossed this movie from my to-see list. I don't want to be lectured about rampant consumerism, especially from a Disney movie. If I wanted that, I'd pick up an issue of Adbusters and thumb through that, absorbing their stuff.
The wait for Pineapple Express is just too long...
July 1st, 2008 at 9:50 pmDystopian films have been around for years and, although their creators certainly have political viewpoints, most of time societal criticisms are universal and not confined to one particular political ideology.
The fact that this film is placed in a futuristic dystopia controlled by corporations is not a result of "Bush Derrangement Syndrome" or some inherent anti-conservative bias. The fact that the right wing have chosen to target such a film now (where were they when Bladerunner, Brazil and The Matrix came out?) speaks more about them and their priorities and concerns than the film they seek to criticise.
July 1st, 2008 at 10:51 pmThere you Conservatives go again, reacting like the guilty party. You simply sound like the kid who's caught with his hand in the cookie jar. C'mon guys, you've left a real mess. People across the entire political spectrum (including your own guys) are tired of picking up your garbage, mopping up your spilled oil, vacuuming up your Uranium dust, collecting your bits of cluster bombs and all the other junk and stinky gases you've left behind you. No problem that you hold on to mythological beliefs about Utopian America on Utopian Earth in a Utopian universe. But expect people to complain as the trash piles up.
July 1st, 2008 at 11:15 pmI've also seen Wall-E and it was great. If this is all the right has, it's soooooooo funny but kinda sad as well.
July 1st, 2008 at 11:29 pmThis development is not all that surprising considering this is the same crowd who was up in arms over Happy Feet.
These people desperately need to get a life.
July 2nd, 2008 at 12:13 amPoor "wrongies". They are the last to know. What a shock they're in for.
July 2nd, 2008 at 12:25 amIt is amazing to me that so called conservatives can confuse consumerism, the worship of stuff, with the free market, the belief that people should be able to trade without barriers. It's a big difference!
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Conspiracy theorists are always gonna see propaganda in everything. The best thing to do is let them shout at the rain because it keeps them from trying to make us see what they see.
July 2nd, 2008 at 10:37 amI know, right? It's like the people that say Harry Potter is satanic. IT'S FREAKING FICTION, YOU BRAINDEAD MORONS! It's not meant to be believed; it's meant to f****** entertain people, for the love of Heaven. Get the Bible out of your butt and read the first book with an open freaking mind! This is an excerpt from the "Atlanta Journal-Constitution" newspaper.
"Does Harry Potter belong in schools?"
(Editorial Opinion, "The Atlanta Journal-Constitution", October 5, 1999)
A few Cobb County parents have done something to the plucky Harry Potter that his evil nemesis Lord Voldemort has never been able to do: Banish him.
A fifth-grade teacher at A.L. Burruss Elementary School had to stop reading the best-selling children's series to her students because some parents expressed concerns about its themes of magic and wizardry.
The books are "on hold," says Principal Jerry Locke, who plans to evaluate the three volumes to determine whether they're suitable for the classroom.
These are the same parents who say that violent video games have a negative effect on children. Freaking duh! If you let an eight-year-old, who doesn't have the abstract thinking capabilities to realize that GTA is a work of fiction, play violent video games, of course he's going to reenact what he sees. That's how he learns things at that stage of development. That's why you give him games like Super Mario Sunshine and Pikmin and Wii Sports or Wii Fit, things that will build problem-solving skills and hand-eye coordination.
Incidentally, the school boards in that article found the Harry Potter books to be alright for classroom consumption, but the same parents, one woman in particular, kept trying to ban the HP books from school. At that point, I just think to myself, "Lord, save me from your followers."
July 2nd, 2008 at 11:00 amsorry, guys. the article ends after "suitable for the classroom."
July 2nd, 2008 at 11:01 amThis from another Editorial a few weeks later.
"The books have a serious tone of death, hate, lack of respect and sheer evil," said Elizabeth Mounce of Columbia, who asked that state's Board of Education to remove the books from school libraries. Protesters who identified themselves as "concerned Christian parents" told the board the books promote violence and interest in the occult.
The fact that she would say the books promote violence and occult interest shows she hasn't read the books. If she had, she would know the series is about friendship, love, and bravery in the face of adversity and evil. The magic aspect is a testament to the power of imagination. You wouldn't say the Lord of the Rings promotes violence and occult interest if you had read the books, lengthy as they are. They preach the same thing as HP.
July 2nd, 2008 at 11:13 amThis says a LOT about the way these people think and why the twain shall neer meet:
Glenn Beck: I can’t wait to teach my kids how we’ve destroyed the Earth. … Pixar is teaching. I can’t wait. You know if your kid has ever come home and said, “Dad, how come we use so much styrofoam,” oh, this is the movie for you.
WTF?! A child is not supposed to question why we are such a wasful, disposable society? What an IGNORANT statement by Beck! Jezus, I feel for his kids....
July 2nd, 2008 at 3:04 pmWhat an IGNORANT statement by Beck! Jezus, I feel for his kids….
July 2nd, 2008 at 3:04 pm
check out the perverted twinkle in his aryan/lds eyes, and you gotta figger he does enough of that without outside help...he is one deranged mo'fo...
July 2nd, 2008 at 5:28 pmWhat a bunch of idiots - they'll complain about anything & everything that isn't quoted directly from the bible. It's a movie for chrissakes!
Hmmm... I wonder where we'd be right now if these idiots were running the country? Oh wait - they are! Soon to be $5 a gallon, thousands of home foreclosures, $250 billion to date spent on a pointless war in a country that still wants to annihilate us, Walmart in control of a majority of our national commerce, a recession so bad they had to hand out checks so we'd spend money - yeah I'd say they're doing a phenomenal job at the wheel... and they're complaining about a f***ing movie!
So what do they propose we teach our kids? I know I know: only men & women should be married because anyone who isn't straight is going to hell; we are here because god created us and evolution was created by the devil; and litter all you want because some immigrant will clean it up, not you.
July 2nd, 2008 at 6:46 pmOne of the most important qualities Walt Disney’s movies, television programs, and theme parks imparted to me as a child, and to children everywhere, was a feeling of reassurance.
To a child, the sense of a system and society that is dependable and rational is extremely important to his feeling secure and optimistic, to his feeling free and motivated to learn and grow and become ambitious within that society.
The new Disney-Pixar movie Wall E is not at all in the spirit of Walt Disney’s movies.
Above all, the problem with this film — and the fact that busy parents, or their child care providers, will one day buy the DVD and play it over and over for their children without watching it — is the message that the universe makes no sense and the future is dark and adults are incapable of dealing with their problems until long past catastrophe. This is not a reassuring message to children who love life and can’t wait to grow up and flourish. It is harmful.
As my 5-year-old son said, “That’s a Garbage Planet. That’s not Earth. Why are they calling it Earth?” He understands that Earth makes sense. People are rational beings.
I explained it’s a make-believe silly story about Earth in the future where, as my wife said, “people become stupid” and can’t get rid of garbage. (Even though they can create a spaceship to hold and feed the entire human population for 700 years). I reassured him and his sister that it’s ridiculous and that this is not going to happen in real life.
For more, see my blog at http://zigory.thinkertothinker.com or http://www.zigory.blogspot.com.
July 3rd, 2008 at 12:10 amlook, zigory, you can keep lying to your son all you want, but intelligent kids will know that this will be the future (and in part it is now, you just need to see all the dump yards and contamination) if the world doesn't change, and is thanks to closed-mind people like you that the world is worst each day, thanks to bad parents that never teach they childs the reality and keep deceiving them with a fantasy world where all is perfect, you make me sick :( poor of your son, he will be one with the system, designed to do exactly what you do, destroy this beautiful Earth
July 3rd, 2008 at 10:30 amSorry to disagree with you, xdanx, but Zigory has a point. You wouldn't take your child to see something like "V for Vendetta" unless your parents were people who didn't believe in the innocence of a child and decided to show you the harsh reality from an early age. When you're a kid, you want to believe that the world is a fair and just place. It's only when you hit your teen years that you realize the world is not a nice place at all, even if you're rich.
July 3rd, 2008 at 5:26 pmWow, even the Nazis didn't run around calling every one else "fascist."
July 7th, 2008 at 2:06 pmIt's about politics? or about reality?. The merchandise is a truth and the progressive earth destruction too, but the politics do anything about it.
So, all politicians (right and left) need a movie to realise about the world problems? i dont think so... it's a joke?
For example Mr.Coffin says "my kids were bombarded with leftist propaganda about the evils of mankind".
July 11th, 2008 at 6:01 amIt is really leftist propaganda, or just the nowadays reallity?, becouse it sounds like he only care about the politics (and the others politicians too)... i think it is more than that, it's about conscience.
Ok im just a web surfer that just came across this site looking for proof of a WALL-E Sequel. After about 20 minutes reading every reply on this site. I pity on all the Right-wing People at the top of page (idk who they are) Friggin Face Reality its going to happen if we dont care about how we care for the enviroment we WILL corrupt Earth to the point where trash/etc will toxicize the atmosphere and somehow if we do make something like the Axiom hopefully(or quincidentally) the WALL-E movie will be played. Another comment on the right wing people is that they probably say that because they will not be alive when actaull problems happen before we can do anything about it. Most of the leaders of our country care about whats going to happen while the other group think otherwise. WALL-E Gives the biggest message to the public to think over how we conserse/recycle/etc. WALL-E has is the best movie ive seen in my life So Far. From what ive heard over 85% of the enitre population who has seen the movie think its a very touching, loving, funny, and adorable movie. The Other 15% probably dont understand how awsome the movie is or what impact it has put into our minds. over 50% of the 85% cried in the movie from the reviews i have seen so far(youtube). Negative reviews about this movie are almost the same reasons. For example the Rightwing people's reviews at top. After seeing this movie 9 times(3intheater 5on http://www.Freefullmovies.com)i really think people should respect the message of the movie and at least try to save the earth from becoming this wasteland. if it looks like i trailed of on things u can reply below even though i might not come back to this site. :D
August 16th, 2008 at 10:32 pmI finally saw the movie, and I have just one question for these conservative c***suckers: "Have you seen the second half of the movie?" SPOILER ALERT!!! Yes, humanity has become as lazy as they say, but they rally around Wall-E and EVE and the "free" robots to go back home when the Autopilot and other ship systems decree everyone on-board the Axiom prisoners. The captain fights with the auto-pilot over whether to activate the machine that sends the ship back to Earth. If anything, the moral of this movie echoes that of the Matrix: With the exception of a few Cyphers, Humanity, when faced with the choice, will choose freedom and activity over a sedentary lifestyle every time.
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January 27th, 2009 at 10:09 amI really have read a lot of conservative crap in my days, but this just goes over. I believe that Wall-e is a touching story very much worthy of the being a Pixar title, maybe even uplifting the Pixar name. While I don't agree with the idea that Wall-e had absolutely anything to do with leftist views, I do think that that these views are important to consider. Oh, who cares if the earth is trashed; so what if we live there, let someone else worry about it. Frankly, those aren't the kind of people who I would want running the country. And about the anti-Bush crap, Bush and his government is a disaster and everybody knows it.
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