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Bush Stimulates The Porn Industry With His Economic Package»

ap080613010851444.jpg When President Bush announced his economic stimulus in January, he bragged that his package was the “right size” and would “boost” the economy:

I am pleased that this agreement meets the criterion that I set forth last week to provide an effective, robust, and temporary set of incentives that will boost our economy and encourage job creation. This package has the right set of policies and is the right size. The incentives in this package will lead to higher consumer spending and increased business investment this year.

It sure has led to “higher consumer spending,” but not where Bush had probably hoped. The adult pornography industry reports that has seen a huge uptick in business thanks to Bush’s package. According to a press release from the Adult Internet Market Research Company:

An independent market-research firm, AIMRCo (Adult Internet Market Research Company), has discovered that many websites focused on adult or erotic material have experienced an upswing in sales in the recent weeks since checks have appeared in millions of Americans’ mailboxes across the country.

According to Kirk Mishkin, Head Research Consultant for AIMRCo, “Many of the sites we surveyed have reported 20-30% growth in membership rates since mid-May when the checks were first sent out, and typically the summer is a slow period for this market.”

Jillian Fox of LSGmodels.com (nsfw) said that in a survey to its members, “thirty two percent of respondents referenced the recent stimulus package as part of their decision to either become a new member, or renew an existing membership.”

The Bush administration has attempted to wage an aggressive fight in the War on Porn. In fact, cracking down on “manufacturers and purveyors” of pornography was “one of the top priorities” of Alberto Gonzales while he was Attorney General, often coming before terrorism prosecutions.

Ironically, the porn industry is now thanking Bush for his policies. “Getting more people to buy porn was probably the last thing Bush had on his mind when he came up with his ’stimulus package,’ but we’ll take it,” said Fox.

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UpdateNPR reported this week that the Shady Lady Ranch in Nevada "is offering gas cards to lure people in, and the Moonlite Bunny Ranch has a deal called 'double your stimulus' for folks who bring in their federal tax rebate checks."



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122 Responses to “Bush Stimulates The Porn Industry With His Economic Package”

  1. Lisa FTW Says:

    gives new meaning to his phrase “it’s hard work!”…


  2. Uncle Ho Says:

    Letterman, Leno, et al, should get a lot of mileage from this one. LOL!


  3. tom Says:

    Gives new meaning to “stimulus package”, doesn’t it?

    Too bad this wouldn’t work for GDumbya. Where he’s concerned, nothing less than a one-trillion-dollar avoidable little dirty war is necessary to “stimulate” his minuscule package. You could call it his “Napoleon complex”.


  4. DieNowForPeace Says:

    Since Bush’s tax breaks have benefited porn will democrats start attacking big porn??

    You’re missing the forest cause all those damn trees, dipshit.

    The stimulus checks were too little, too late.

    In other words, the dipshit Deciderer fails again, and there you are still carrying the piss-tainted water…


  5. DieNowForPeace Says:

    This is why you can’t give tax breaks to the lower middle class or poor people.

    You’re wearing your racism on your sleeve, as usual…


  6. unbelievable Says:

    I bet mostly religious conservatives are buying the porn.


  7. unbelievable Says:

    friendsofronmexico Says: Since Bush’s tax breaks have benefited porn will democrats start attacking big porn??

    No, we aren’t the ones with the sexual hang ups who are buying it.


  8. DRxJ Says:

    friendsarefrommexico Says:

    This is why blah blah blah (insert racist remark here).

    Since Bush’s tax breaks blah blah blah (insert democrat slam here) blah blah blah. (Isn’t it cool that I can type “porn” three times???)

    Mucking Foron


  9. shoeless Says:

    friendsofronmexico Says:

    This is why you can’t give tax breaks to the lower middle class or poor people. Most will spend it on porn, 40oz’s, or cigarettes.

    Unlike the super-wealthy who spend their Bush tax cuts on $1000/hour hookers and cocaine.


  10. paleolib Says:

    This is appropriate given the political pornography produced by this sorry excuse for an administration over the past 7.5 years.


  11. misshusseinmolly Says:

    You know, I could have gone all day in blissful ignorance about the size of Bush’s package…


  12. DRxJ Says:

    unbelievable Says:
    I bet mostly religious conservatives are buying the porn.

    Ummmm, I guarantee it!!!

    Let’s face it, sex sells. No matter what belief, faith or denomination.
    Once one can accept that fact, then one doesn’t need to “tap tap tap” in a Minnesota airport mens room.


  13. Zimzone Says:

    Whatever, but the photo sure looks like something is stimulating our little American Napoleon.

    ‘Jeff Gannon, please report to duty, your Fuhrer calls’…


  14. Bob Says:

    That’s way more funny than starting a war to keep the oil prices low.


  15. Leftside Annie Says:

    Woohoo! Good job, Chimpy! Hurrah for capitalism!


  16. Zimzone Says:

    Next, Hardee’s will be selling underwear that says…

    Home of the Big Whopper


  17. DieNowForPeace Says:

    Strange, but I haven’t dropped one penny on porn since the internet came along.

    How stupid are these people who still spend money on porn?????


  18. misshusseinmolly Says:

    One possible explanation for so much stimulus money going for porn is that internet porn is one of the few industries not affected by higher gasoline prices. Therefore, its patrons get more bang for their buck.

    (OMG — did I just say that?)


  19. rozerze Says:

    Of course this isn’t actually news, as it doesn’t just effect the porn induistry to any extent, but makes a great headline.


  20. unbelievable Says:

    DRxJ Says: Let’s face it, sex sells. No matter what belief, faith or denomination. Once one can accept that fact, then one doesn’t need to “tap tap tap” in a Minnesota airport mens room.

    The difference is that liberals aren’t so starved for sex - especially perverted sex - from years of guilt and denial that we treat it like secret sweets that we have to hide under our beds…

    As long as conservatives deny reality and think sex is a bad thing, they will want it all that much more…


  21. watchout5 Says:

    Bush’s last ditch effort to stimulate us actually worked


  22. Dharma Says:

    friendsofronmexico,
    I just don’t get why you want to troll here. Why not go play on the Drudge Report? There are loads of stupid people there who will agree with you. You’re an idiot.


  23. upside99 Says:

    friendsofronmexico Says:

    As opposed to Mark Foley, Vitter, Ted Haggard, Jeff Gannon and Larry Craig?


  24. backup Says:

    the porn industry is on the front line of the struggle to ensure freedom of expression, freedom of speech, and personal liberties, in general.

    Bush didn’t intend it, but this is good news.

    Other topic: Here’s a partial citizenship test. Takes a couple of minutes and kind of interesting.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25461301/


  25. gummitch Says:

    backup Says:

    the porn industry is on the front line of the struggle to ensure freedom of expression, freedom of speech, and personal liberties, in general.

    Or . . . the porn industry is actively involved in the exploitation of women.


  26. dbadass Says:

    Eric Schlosser has some interesting points as to the porn industry in “Reefer Madness”. I have no problem with porn but I would be more interested in estimates as to how much of the “stimulus” money went into recreational drugs and other aspects of the underground economy


  27. backup Says:

    Therefore, its patrons get more bang for their buck.

    missmolly. funny, and true. There are going to be a lot of losers in the high gas price economy, but some winners, too. Maybe if we could predict the winners, we could make some money.


  28. unbelievable Says:

    Let’s explain sex to the troll.

    You see, DNA evolved, thorugh natural selection, adapted vehicles for its survival. This wasn’t a conscious creation, but simply the product of millions of years of momentum.

    The special vehicles that DNA created to insure its survival are bodies. This includes human bodies. Yep, our sole purpose and reason for existing is to procreate and keep our DNA alive.

    So, as a result, evolution developed sexual urges that make beings want to have sex so that we will procreate and our DNA will live on, long after we’ve died and become worm food.


  29. citizen_pain Says:

    I wonder if Jeff Gannon, fake reporter/designated White House homosexual prostitute is giving Bu$h a 2 for 1 on his stimulus package?


  30. backup Says:

    Or . . . the porn industry is actively involved in the exploitation of women

    gummitch. This is a problem, but what’s the answer - regulation of what we can and cannot see? What we can and cannot do? Those are also, I suggest larger, problems.


  31. A Patriot Acting Says:

    You’re pissing in the wind mexican amigo, and as usual you come here simply another piss soaked troll.


  32. DieNowForPeace Says:

    concern troll isle 32, clean-up, isle 32, we have a steaming pile of concern shit…


  33. shoeless Says:

    backup Says:

    There are going to be a lot of losers in the high gas price economy, but some winners, too. Maybe if we could predict the winners, we could make some money.

    That’s not hard. To see one of the winners, click the link below.

    Link


  34. ScaryBrownHusseinChick (ThinkOutsideTheBush) Says:

    misshusseinmolly Says:

    You know, I could have gone all day in blissful ignorance about the size of Bush’s package…

    Yes, I just lost my appetite too. And that picture of Dubya even looks like he’s advertising blow jobs…


  35. unbelievable Says:

    backup Says: gummitch. This is a problem, but what’s the answer - regulation of what we can and cannot see? What we can and cannot do? Those are also, I suggest larger, problems.

    The answer is treating women as equals to men with Equal Rights Laws (like all other Industrialized Nations have, except us), and an equal rights mindset. As a result, the women in the industry will be those who really want to be there (which I imagine will be fewer than there are now).


  36. Guido the Loving OBGYN Says:

    This is a stupid thread. This makes Americans -not Bush- look stupid. Way to go, TP.


  37. dbadass Says:

    #38
    How So?


  38. jaramilr Says:

    from ubelievable: “our sole purpose and reason for existing is to procreate and keep our DNA alive.”

    To be more specific, we don’t really have a biological purpose. It’s just that individuals that are good enough at reproducing leave offspring and those that aren’t don’t. We’re still here so our ancestors must have been good enough.

    Oh and by the way… huh, huh, stimulus package huh, huh


  39. DieNowForPeace Says:

    This makes Americans -not Bush- look stupid. Way to go, TP.

    Americans (we) are stupid.

    Way to go stupids.


  40. Guido the Loving OBGYN Says:

    What’s more disgusting than the Porn industry pitching you for your stimulus money is when grocery stores were doing it. Now that’s truly disgusting. Socialism at it’s best.

    Spending money on porn? Who gives a crap? That’s a sign that people aren’t hurting. Sometimes I ashamed to be a liberal.


  41. Dharma Says:

    This makes Americans -not Bush- look stupid. Way to go, TP.

    Not really Guido. Bush claims to be a religious man and an entire voting block went out in droves to vote for them because they thought he’d protect their interests.

    In so many ways, he hasn’t. This is yet another….


  42. backup Says:

    The answer is treating women as equals to men with Equal Rights Laws (like all other Industrialized Nations have, except us), and an equal rights mindset. As a result, the women in the industry will be those who really want to be there (which I imagine will be fewer than there are now).

    unbelievable. I support women being treated equally to men in every respect. I agree that the only women that should be in porn are those that want to be there.


  43. backup Says:

    I agree that the only women that should be in porn are those that want to be there.

    That should apply to men as well.


  44. McWars Says:

    Caption Contest: “Jeff, THAT’S HUGE!”


  45. Dharma Says:

    Like Jenna Jamison who is a millionaire now and laughing all the way to the bank.


  46. unbelievable Says:

    jaramilr Says: We’re still here so our ancestors must have been good enough.

    More like lucky enough :).


  47. citizen_pain Says:

    Caption:

    “Damnit Cheney, I told you not to smeak up from behind on me like that! Gannon was over last night, I’m still pretty sore!”


  48. Uncle Ho Says:

    gummitch; shouldn’t your post read;
    “the porn industry is actively involved in the sexploitation of women’?

    just asking.


  49. backup Says:

    Spending money on porn? Who gives a crap? That’s a sign that people aren’t hurting. Sometimes I ashamed to be a liberal.

    It is an indication of the unintended consequences of government intervention.

    The government took money from some and gave it to others. Some needed the money. But, when you consider this thread, many did not.

    Government serves some very important functions, but it cannot meet our every need. It is not the panacea that many believe, or wish, it was.


  50. IgnoranceIsNotBliss Says:

    That picture is disturbing on soooo many levels.


  51. unbelievable Says:

    backup Says: unbelievable. I support women being treated equally to men in every respect. I agree that the only women that should be in porn are those that want to be there.

    Unfortunately, as long as the misogynistic Middle Eastern religions dominate our culture, women will continue to be second-class citizens.


  52. joe cantwell Says:

    president bush

    and the

    porno industry,

    partners in progress.

    snicker, snicker.

    :)

    what is president bush’s porno name?

    your pet’s name: barney

    the street you live on: pennsylvania.

    barney pennsylvania.

    thank you.

    ?


  53. DRxJ Says:

    unbelievable Says:
    The difference is that liberals aren’t so starved for sex

    Exactly! That’s why I never hold back when discussing the subject, even here. As long as it’s not too graphic, and it’s not offensive, I’ll keep posting as long as it’s pertinent to the topic.

    speaking of graphic:

    ScaryBrownHusseinChick (ThinkOutsideTheBush) Says:
    Yes, I just lost my appetite too. And that picture of Dubya even looks like he’s advertising blow jobs…

    Performing or receiving????

    Okay, I gotta go to lunch!!!


  54. joe cantwell Says:

    “overcoming onanism”

    by

    barney pennsylvania.

    good luck.

    ?


  55. unbelievable Says:

    backup Says: It is an indication of the unintended consequences of government intervention.

    Which is still better than the unintended consequences of a lack of government intervention.

    If it weren’t for Corporate greed, creating this situation, the government wouldn’t have needed to intervene.


  56. dbadass Says:

    Does anyone have one of those red phones that only rings Daryll. We need his thoughts on this one…


  57. backup Says:

    Unfortunately, as long as the misogynistic Middle Eastern religions dominate our culture, women will continue to be second-class citizens.

    unbelievable. We still have work to do in the America in regards to women’s rights. But, wouldn’t you agree that we are better stewards of those rights than islamic fundamentalist theocracies?


  58. Saint Augustine Says:

    dbadass Says:

    My stimilus check hasn’t gone “up in smoke”, but then I haven’t received it yet!


  59. Uncle Ho Says:

    ooohhh, Daryllllllll…..

    calling Daryll

    calling Daryll


  60. dbadass Says:

    I haven’t gotten mine yet either. Cheers!


  61. joe cantwell Says:

    dbadass Says:
    Does anyone have one of those red phones that only rings Daryll. We need his thoughts on this one…

    daryll’s at the bunny ranch

    getting his package stimulated.

    :0

    ?


  62. Shayne Says:

    backup, do you enjoy just babbling or are you paid by the post?


  63. Uncle Ho Says:

    St. Augie; up in smoke?

    Help!
    I’ve fallen and can’t reach my bong.


  64. Hussein McCain Says:

    Who would spend money on porn when they can see free sexy pictures ooooh of the oooooooh president? ahhhhhhhhh


  65. backup Says:

    If it weren’t for Corporate greed, creating this situation, the government wouldn’t have needed to intervene.

    unbelievable. Maybe you’re right. The point I would make is that government did not address the problem. Government was not the answer. Many times we look to government for answers, only to be disappointed. Maybe we should stop looking to government.


  66. unbelievable Says:

    backup Says: We still have work to do in the America in regards to women’s rights. But, wouldn’t you agree that we are better stewards of those rights than islamic fundamentalist theocracies?

    I’m not comparing and contrasting - I’m lumping all monotheistic organized religions in together, as all of them are damaging to women’s rights. But if we are to compare, then you have to look at the full spectrum. There are Christians in America that are worse on women’s issues than Muslims in the Middle East. I had friends in California who were from Iraq and they were treated better there than many women are in Southern Baptist communities in the South.

    Countries that treat women as equals to me do better than those that do not - but a lot. Compare Norway to The Sudan, for example.


  67. RUCerious Says:

    In one word…..

    BWAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!! Go Amurika!!


  68. ScaryBrownHusseinChick (ThinkOutsideTheBush) Says:

    unbelievable Says:

    Unfortunately, as long as the misogynistic Middle Eastern religions dominate our culture, women will continue to be second-class citizens.

    If the religion you are referring to is Islam, which is actually a Western religion, then you couldn’t be more wrong. Islam gave rights to women back in the 7th century that they did not have even in “civilized” Europe. The killing of female children was expressly forbidden. Women gained the right to an inheritance, which was something that did not come until hundreds of years later to Europe. They also had the right to agree to be married and to ask for a divorce. They were not considered to be property.

    The reason Muslim women cover themselves up is to prevent themselves from being being treated as sex objects, so horny people like you would stop wetting your pants over them. Men also have parts of their body that are required to be covered and are told to lower their gaze in the presence of women. This is ordered of them before women are told to cover to preserve their modesty and dignity.

    Perhaps if you stopped defending the misogynistic cultural practices that condone and encourage your little 7 year old daughters to dress like hoochies, and teenager girls to display their thongs out of their low rise tight jeans, maybe the degradation of women would not be so rampant.


  69. unbelievable Says:

    backup Says: The point I would make is that government did not address the problem. Government was not the answer. Many times we look to government for answers, only to be disappointed. Maybe we should stop looking to government.

    Until Corporations are self-regulating, then government is the only one big enough to stand up to their greed (we indivudually cannot). After all, we are a government of, by and for the people.


  70. backup Says:

    backup, do you enjoy just babbling or are you paid by the post?

    shayne. I don’t get paid to post (the government might be concerned that I’d just spend the money on porn) and I understand when you characterize the posts as babbling. That’s okay.

    But, do me a favor, direct me to one of your posts that is really significant or profound, so I can make a comparison and get a better idea of what I should be posting.

    Thanks.


  71. Keith H. Says:

    George used his stimulus package to make a porn flick.
    The title was ‘Barney and I go to Bone Town’.


  72. had enough Says:

    unbelievable Says:

    I bet mostly religious conservatives are buying the porn.
    J

    it is the Republican convention as compared to the Democratic the prostitutes look forward to as that is where they make their big money.

    During the ‘04 repuke convention and I am sure during this year’s we will once again see articles concerning that to post.


  73. Keith Says:

    Aren’t the biggest porn money-makers large corps such as Time/Warner, NBC, and Viacom? Biggest profits come from such as Cinemax and HBO.


  74. unbelievable Says:

    ScaryBrownHusseinChick (ThinkOutsideTheBush) Says: If the religion you are referring to is Islam, which is actually a Western religion, then you couldn’t be more wrong.

    I said ‘religions’ with an ’s’. I am against all of them.

    Perhaps if you stopped defending the misogynistic cultural practices that condone and encourage your little 7 year old daughters to dress like hoochies, and teenager girls to display their thongs out of their low rise tight jeans, maybe the degradation of women would not be so rampant.

    Excuse me? I am very anti-misogynistic anything. I was and am quite clear in that. Perhaps your reading comprehension skills could use some dusting off…?

    I don’t have kids. Too many damn people on the planet. But part of being a Feminist is accepting that the female body is not the problem as you allege. It’s making it forbidden that causes the problems. Go topless on a beach in Europe to see what I mean. They don’t go nuts over boobs there like we do here.


  75. Keith Says:

    NBC=GE.


  76. backup Says:

    ScaryBrownHusseinChick:

    Maybe you don’t know the whole Islamic fundamentalist story.

    http://www.irinnews.org/Report.aspx?ReportId=76065

    Muslim women may be covering themselves, so they don’t get killed.


  77. DieNowForPeace Says:

    If the religion you are referring to is Islam, which is actually a Western religion, then you couldn’t be more wrong

    Just back from planet confusion I see.

    Unbe is referring to the dominant religion in the U.S. known as Xristianity.

    But you’re free to go on a sidebar rant about Islam, if that makes you happy.


  78. dbadass Says:

    backup:
    Did you notice anything weird about those mormon woman in Texas?


  79. backup Says:

    But part of being a Feminist is accepting that the female body is not the problem as you allege. It’s making it forbidden that causes the problems. Go topless on a beach in Europe to see what I mean. They don’t go nuts over boobs there like we do here.

    unbelievable. this is exactly right. maybe you should have kids. sounds like you’d make a great parent.


  80. DieNowForPeace Says:

    Muslim women may be covering themselves, so they don’t get killed.

    You are really stupid, aren’t you?


  81. unbelievable Says:

    DieNowForPeace Says: Just back from planet confusion I see. Unbe is referring to the dominant religion in the U.S. known as Xristianity. But you’re free to go on a sidebar rant about Islam, if that makes you happy.

    Thanks :)

    Funny how so many Christian nuts and Muslims nuts like to attack one another when, really, they have so much more in common than not…


  82. Saint Augustine Says:

    Guido the Loving OBGYN

    I’m quite sure the rest of the world thinks that Americans are screwed-up when it comes to sex, not that some cultures don’t have some weird rules about sex through their religeons. I used to sing at a Methodist church where the pastor was let go when it was discovered he was surfing porn sites in his church office.


  83. DieNowForPeace Says:

    backdump,

    You may find yourself less afraid of a culture you don’t understand once you ACTUALLY learn something about it.

    But killing is so much easier, and profitable.


  84. dbadass Says:

    Christ now backup has a problem with nudity. Hung up much?


  85. unbelievable Says:

    backup Says: unbelievable. this is exactly right. maybe you should have kids. sounds like you’d make a great parent.

    Thanks. Being an aunt is enough :)

    I just think our culture goes too far in denying reality, and that in the end, we end up hurting ourselves far more than acknowledging reality ever could have.


  86. backup Says:

    Did you notice anything weird about those mormon woman in Texas?

    To me they seemed brainwashed and repressed by religion. I also felt torn between a persons freedom of religious belief and the possible/probable subjugation of the women and abuse of the children.

    The root of the problem (IMO) is the religion.

    Are the women really free to leave the compound? Are the veiled Muslim women really free to discard the burkas? I don’t know.

    But, the rights of the women and the children (any individual, for that matter) should supersede the religious doctrine.


  87. Leftside Annie Says:

    IMO, if fundie Christians had their way, we American women would all be wearing bags - just like the woman in fundamentalist Islamic nations.

    Religion = the root of all evil


  88. backup Says:

    Christ now backup has a problem with nudity. Hung up much?

    I don’t have a problem with naked people. Direct me to the post and I’ll clear it up.


  89. unbelievable Says:

    backup Says: But, the rights of the women and the children (any individual, for that matter) should supersede the religious doctrine.

    Most definitely! It’s why I think that the Pew poll found ‘no religion’ is the fastest growing religious group in this country.


  90. Keith Says:

    Comcast, DirecTV (Murdoch), News Corp (Murdoch), Marriott (Mitt Romney on board), Dish Network, AT&T, etc.

    They get more money from red states than blue states.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/ wp-dyn/ articles/ A15644-2004Dec21_4.html


  91. misshusseinmolly Says:

    unbelievable Says
    July 2nd, 2008 at 12:08 pm
    Unfortunately, as long as the misogynistic Middle Eastern religions dominate our culture, women will continue to be second-class citizens.
    ____________________________________________________

    I assume that when you are speaking of “Middle Eastern religions”, you are speaking of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam — all of which originated in what we now consider the Middle East.

    Interestingly enough, both Jesus Christ and Muhammed bestowed rights upon women that they previously did not have in the cultures they lived in. Both Jesus and Muhammed insisted that God’s salvation was for women as well as men, both regarded women as people (not property), and both insisted that women be treated with respect. And both would be appalled to see women treated purely as sex objects.

    So why do we perceive these religions today as being unfair to women? Cultural traditions warped in the name of religion, mostly. People will bend religion to their own agendas of power in ways that would horrify the original prophets. Muhammed never had the Taliban in mind. Jesus never had some of the crackpots calling themselves Christians in mind.

    In most places of the world, there is a lot of work to be done before women are truly elevated out of the “second-class citizen” hole. But I’m not going to blame the founders of Abrahamic religions for the problem, nor the religions themselves. I WILL blame those who exploit religion for their own nefarious ends — and I recognize that may be what you meant.


  92. ScaryBrownHusseinChick (ThinkOutsideTheBush) Says:

    backup Says:

    Muslim women may be covering themselves, so they don’t get killed.

    The Qur’an says there is no compulsion in religion. No one can be forced to cover their head or do anything else. I don’t cover my head! In fact, I am with you in that I am against all of these so-called Islamic governments that are really not Islamic at all! They just force things on people with their own screwed up interpretations. If you remember, I said a few days ago in another thread that “marriage” should be banned and we should take religion out of all things government and politics!


  93. ScaryBrownHusseinChick (ThinkOutsideTheBush) Says:

    Look, I apologize to all about derailing this topic. I am TRULY VERY SORRY. I think I misunderstood the original post I was replying to. I have become overly sensitive I suppose, and I try not to be. But it’s just hard sometimes, especially in forums where there are a lot of ignorant trolls. I am not familiar with all of you yet, so I can’t tell who the trolls are all the time.

    If you guys want, I don’t ever have to come back here and post again, especially if I’ve offended anyone. That really breaks my heart.


  94. unbelievable Says:

    misshusseinmolly Says: So why do we perceive these religions today as being unfair to women?

    Have you read the bible from cover to cover?

    I have. The Catholic version. It’s very misogynistic, and the source for my examples.

    Maybe Jesus and Mohommed, if they were even real people, were more tolerant, but the religions that function in their names are not - and that’s the problem.


  95. unbelievable Says:

    ScaryBrownHusseinChick (ThinkOutsideTheBush) Says: Look, I apologize to all about derailing this topic. I am TRULY VERY SORRY.

    Thank you. I appreciate that. No hard feelings.


  96. backup Says:

    Muslim women may be covering themselves, so they don’t get killed.

    You are really stupid, aren’t you?

    Most Muslim women gladly wear the burkas and veil as religious practice, but I don’t believe that it is the option that you think it is. There are many examples of intolerance (not just for women, but homosexuals and those of other religious beliefs) from many Islamic fundamentalists. Those forms of intolerance (beatings, murders, honor killings, etc) are much more troubling (and more institutionalized) than the troublesome intolerance we find in the west.


  97. Keith Says:

    SBHC,
    Feel free to post here as much as you like.


  98. DRxJ Says:

    Wow. This thread took an interesting turn.


  99. unbelievable Says:

    Gotta run - nice talking to everyone! Enjoy your afternoon!


  100. ScaryBrownHusseinChick (ThinkOutsideTheBush) Says:


    DRxJ Says:

    Wow. This thread took an interesting turn.

    What, religion and sex don’t go together? :-D


  101. Keith Says:

    BTW, I seem to read about more honor killings in India.


  102. misshusseinmolly Says:

    ScaryBrownHusseinChick (ThinkOutsideTheBush) Says
    July 2nd, 2008 at 12:46 pm
    Look, I apologize to all about derailing this topic. I am TRULY VERY SORRY. I think I misunderstood the original post I was replying to.
    ___________________________________________________________

    Please don’t go away. I was not offended by anything you said. It looked like you had a reaction to an issue that was personal to you, and that happens to all of us. Lord knows my knees have jerked quite a few times on these threads when they probably shouldn’t have.

    Because you have knowledge of Islam (especially what it’s supposed to be, not how the media paint it), I value your perspective and hope you continue sharing it with us.


  103. DieNowForPeace Says:

    Most Muslim women gladly wear the burkas and veil as religious practice, but I don’t believe that it is the option that you think it is.

    Yea, they dress like that here too cause they might get killed.

    Being delusional is a form of psychosis.


  104. StratRat Says:

    Keith Says:

    SBHC,
    Feel free to post here as much as you like.

    Absolutely!


  105. backup Says:

    ScaryBrownHusseinChick.

    I am sincere when I say that I could probably learn alot from you.

    I’ve got to go, but I hope you continue to post here. I hope that I get a chance to understand you better in the future.

    Thanks. See ya.


  106. backup Says:

    Because you have knowledge of Islam (especially what it’s supposed to be, not how the media paint it), I value your perspective and hope you continue sharing it with us.

    me, too. missmolly always says it better.


  107. StratRat Says:

    backup Says:

    ScaryBrownHusseinChick.

    I am sincere when I say that I could probably learn alot from you.

    I’ve got to go, but I hope you continue to post here. I hope that I get a chance to understand you better in the future.

    Thanks. See ya.

    Well done, backup. Nicely said.


  108. DRxJ Says:

    ScaryBrownHusseinChick (ThinkOutsideTheBush) Says:
    What, religion and sex don’t go together? :-D

    Well, I’ve tried. But the response from my wife is always the same: “Not while we’re at church!”

    All kidding aside, I too agree that your posts are insightful and intelligent. No need to disappear. I enjoy learning from what you have to offer.


  109. DaTruth Says:

    Cashed beat and spent stimulus checks. Wow, sure turned the economy around. Yeah right! Porn alone doesn’t cut it anymore for sex addicts. They have to have some speed on the side and cialis or viagra to jack all night long. People were aching to stimulate themselves with those stimulus checks obviously! Porn is a drug like any other. It alienates the indivudual and wipes out any chance of meeting someone and having meaningful relationship. The root of all addictions is sex addiction. Any effort made by this administration for some reason ALWAYS BACKFIRES! I wonder why? Ever since Bush took over in 2000 I knew this country was headed straight to hell.


  110. Keith Says:

    DRxJ,
    Change religions. My coven encourages it!


  111. getplaning Says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwJduPtCvSM

    She Wants My… Stimulus Package…


  112. dbadass Says:

    “Porn is a drug like any other. It alienates the indivudual and wipes out any chance of meeting someone and having meaningful relationship. The root of all addictions is sex addiction.”

    I have this thing about reading my newspaper a certain way. Is my addiction sex related or just OCD? Than again is the OCD sex related?


  113. DRxJ Says:

    “The root of all addiction is sex…”
    Really? So I can blame my beer consumption on sex? Heck, I always thought you could blame the sex on too much beer consumption. Especially during college.

    “It alienates the individual and wipes out any chance of meeting someone and having meaningful relationships.”
    What if a “meaningful” relationship with your significant other includes porn as a mutually agreed upon form of foreplay? Like Cinemax or HBO after dark?


  114. MapleStreet Says:

    I’ve gotta admit, in retrospect I can easily see that someone getting a wad of unexpected cash would blow it on entertainment. - although I didn’t see this coming.

    I more predicted that the cash would be spent at Walmart where it be in a conduit to China. Not to mention that a dollar spent with a local merchant, in general, tends to stay in the local economy longer (that is, circulated more times so that one dollar can have 5 or 10 dollars of effect) than a dollar spent in any chain - which travels to corporate offices and doesn’t stay in the local economy.



  115. backup Says:

    One agrees or not, the West’s tolerant, liberal and democratic future will depend on creating tolerance and appreciation of these values among its Muslim populace—who will undeniably become a dominant force in most European countries in a few decades. I argued during the Danish cartoon controversy in 2006 that ‘the inclusion of freedom of expression in the Constitution of Western democracies was meant for negating the sensitivity of any individual or racial and religious groups, not to protect it; and to foster tolerance—which can be achieved only by blunting or desensitizing any kind of sensitivity through its exposure to criticisms.’

    http://www.islam-watch.org/ AlamgirHussain/ Taming-Islamic-Intolerance-Through-Provocations.htm

    Interesting take on how Islam is becoming more tolerant through criticism of it’s more fundamentalist elements.


  116. BloggerRadio.com Says:

    Lisa FW wrote:

    gives new meaning to his phrase “it’s hard work!”…

    yeah, “bone-head’ too.


  117. ferrarimanf355 Says:

    That is, hands down, the best possible picture of the president for this kind of story. Bravo. :-)


  118. Uncle Ho Says:

    SEX, DRUGS, & ROCK N’ ROLL

    Now that I have your attention,

    Hi guys.

    (:-D)



  119. IBTunion4obama Says:

    Since Bush can’t win the war on terror and Reagan couldn’t win the war on drugs, he established the war on porn to save his legacy and now look, it’s failed once again.


  120. Loonie Says:

    The moral of this story is: If you want your business to thrive and grow, get the US to declare a war on it.


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