Fox News distorts photos of New York Times reporters.
By on Jul 2nd, 2008 at 3:32 pm
Fox News distorts photos of New York Times reporters.
This morning on Fox & Friends, co-hosts Steve Doocy and Brian Kilmeade called Jacques Steinberg’s June 28 New York Times article on Fox News’s declining ratings a “hit piece,” adding that Steinberg and Times editor Steven Reddicliffe are “attack dogs.” During the segment, Fox aired blatantly distorted photos of Steinberg and Reddicliffe with their teeth yellowed, eyes blackened, and facial features exaggerated:
Media Matters has the video.
UpdateThe Times' Culture Editor Sam Sifton said, "It wasn't a hit piece. It was straight news. This was a hit piece by Fox News. It is beneath comment." Asked if the paper planned to respond to Fox's actions, he said no: "It is fighting with a pig, everyone gets dirty and the pig likes it."
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Where's the doctored photo of O'Reilly as Alfred E. Neumann??
July 2nd, 2008 at 3:34 pmWhat next, Faux will put pictures of their enemies strangling puppies? It's impressive what someone can do with Photoshop, but it's terrifying to consider that some innane dolts are willing to do with it and try and pass it off as "News"!!! Joesef Goebels is smiling in hell knowing that Faux is carrying on in his finest tradition.
July 2nd, 2008 at 3:36 pmImpeach Pelosi, Cheney and Bush and Save the Constitution! Come On January 20th!
Is Faux News considered a legit news org or a purveyor of tabloid journalism for the willfully ignorant masses?
July 2nd, 2008 at 3:37 pmIsn't that what children do while in school? Instead of dealing with the facts of the piece, they distort the photo? Do the viewers of Fox News enjoy the sophmore hijinks of that network? What next? Are they going to TeePee the MSNBC building with toilet paper? Call and ask them if they have Price Albert in a can? What a bunch of children. No wonder they have screwed this country up as badly as they have.
July 2nd, 2008 at 3:38 pmJebus. Pravda for Dummies - er, AMURKINS.
July 2nd, 2008 at 3:38 pmJust when you thought you had seen the most juvenile thing to ever come out of Faux Noise, they have to go and prove you wrong.
July 2nd, 2008 at 3:38 pmIf you report the truth about Faux News' every growing domina...errrr...stock market flux ratings, expect the sophomoric hijinx to ensue. What's next for Faux & Loonies...crank calls that send 15 pizzas to the NY Times offices?
July 2nd, 2008 at 3:39 pmGotta wonder what the picture on O'Reilly's IMADOMESTICTERRORIST ID card looks like?
July 2nd, 2008 at 3:40 pmHow about a slander suit? What say ye, Times? Ya got yer boys' backs?
July 2nd, 2008 at 3:43 pmRUCerious Says:
Gotta wonder what the picture on O’Reilly’s IMADOMESTICTERRORIST ID card looks like?
July 2nd, 2008 at 3:40 pm
It has Brad Pitt's photo on it, which is typical of many RNC issued cards for guys who look like pig slop. Then again, it's just a "Get out of Jail" free card...ask Rush about that.
July 2nd, 2008 at 3:43 pmOK, this is just downright weird...what do they hope to gain from this? It's not like print journalists have to be pretty, so why defile their looks?
And as someone who's an experienced Photoshop user, I can say this isn't even credibly done. Sloppy, sloppy, sloppy...
July 2nd, 2008 at 3:44 pmThe Steinberg doctoring is priceless, because everyone knows that all Jews have big noses. Goose-step much, Doocy? Kilmeade?
July 2nd, 2008 at 3:44 pmHelllllppppp! Someone is stretching my forrrrrrreeehhhheaad!!
July 2nd, 2008 at 3:46 pmOf course this only comes from the site dedicated to systematically monitor...conservative misinformation.
talk about hypocrisy.weak story anyway.
July 2nd, 2008 at 3:47 pmWell, when immature individuals sense powerlessness, they tend to get petty.
July 2nd, 2008 at 3:47 pmHow juvenile! How typically Fox News! Oh, wait...that's redundant!!
July 2nd, 2008 at 3:48 pmRed Pill Says:
The Steinberg doctoring is priceless, because everyone knows that all Jews have big noses. Goose-step much, Doocy? Kilmeade?
July 2nd, 2008 at 3:44 pm
Actually, that's Rupert Murdoch's nose in that Photoshop piece. Plus the guys at Faux News are blind when it comes to race and white people, since they pretend to like the Jews. You have to have a darker shade for the "hit" parade to start en masse.
July 2nd, 2008 at 3:48 pmWe should be grateful to Fox for it's willingness to make it clear to a wider range of people that they have no credibility. Keep up the good work , Fox, I enjoy watching you self-destruct.
July 2nd, 2008 at 3:48 pmIs raj really wasted this early on a Wednesday?
July 2nd, 2008 at 3:50 pmHmmm. I thought about this, and then it occurred to me that this is *exactly* how the Nazis portrayed the Jews in Germany in order to make them seem sinister, evil -- enemies of all that was good and decent.
Sorta like the way FUX portrays liberals and Democrats...
July 2nd, 2008 at 3:50 pmRupert Murdoch: King of the Sewer.
July 2nd, 2008 at 3:50 pmMurdoch has a soul of a sewer rat
July 2nd, 2008 at 3:52 pmWe can laugh at this if we are idiots. These people are scum. They are attempting and have been fairly successful at creating a brainwashed public that has pushed the politics of this nation to the far right. These people must be destroyed in order to save the public. If we can not do it legally, then I suggest that we use any and all means necessary. I would suggest a televised program in which one or two key FOX executives are tied to a stake. You then start a fire. While they are roasting, you slit open their stomach and grab their entrails. You roast their entrails over the fire and then force the victims to eat them before they die.
July 2nd, 2008 at 3:53 pmralph the wonder llama Says:
Well, when immature individuals sense powerlessness, they tend to get petty.
Isn't that right, rozerze?
July 2nd, 2008 at 3:54 pmOh yes, the above comment is only the fevered fantasy of one who has just reached the end of his rope because of these idiots.
July 2nd, 2008 at 3:54 pmSnappy Says:
Murdoch has a soul of a sewer rat
Awww, now, Snappy - that's an insult to sewer rats everywhere! Shame on you.
/snark
July 2nd, 2008 at 3:56 pmLeftside Annie Says:
Hmmm. I thought about this, and then it occurred to me that this is *exactly* how the Nazis portrayed the Jews in Germany in order to make them seem sinister, evil — enemies of all that was good and decent.
Sorta like the way FUX portrays liberals and Democrats…
July 2nd, 2008 at 3:50 pm
Yeah, but you know they'll blame Terry the computer monkey and same they'll "discipline" him, but never will. With the FCC not regulating cable/satellite TV, these clowns could have Billo dress up like Hitler and mockingly put someone in an oven and he'd still claim the liberal media is the true enemy of the state. Because, lets face it, painting a face on one group (liberals) as the all encompassing ills of America gives conservatives some smug sense of self-satisfaction that they're worth a lot more than they're not.
July 2nd, 2008 at 4:00 pmIt must just be me but my first impression of the distorted guy on the right was to the talented fellow whose name I can't remember who is stiking his tongue out in the clip from this classic
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THG-cK7FW2s
July 2nd, 2008 at 4:04 pmRemember when Fox use to put a (D) next to anyone's name with whom they had issues? Watch for an apology attributing the photoshopping to an overzealous intern.
July 2nd, 2008 at 4:06 pmneed to get this story out... this is simple enough for even the kool aid drinkers to grasp and see the distortion.
Is Faux really that stupid to think it's audience is so dumbed down not to catch this?
July 2nd, 2008 at 4:06 pmAs someone who used to work in Television, I think you are way over estimating the fidelity of television production. Go to the nearest store with multiple tvs, are some teeth whiter than others when viewing the same picture on different models? Sure they are different. Which is correct? Who knows. Perhaps the other pictures were "overly whitened" teeth. The pictures that were narrowed are in a particular format with the title and such. The pictures are "floated" in little boxes. Perhaps through incorrect resizing the pictures got squeezed a little.
My judgement, just some bad adjustments in the TV Production process, not so far out of adjustment that they required instant adjustment in the studio.
The alternative? Fox TV Production quality is SO PERFECT THAT THEY NEVER MAKE MISTAKES and any quality flaws are intentional.
If I believed THAT about Fox TV, I would REALLY be worried. But like most conservatives, I figure they just aren't that competent.
July 2nd, 2008 at 4:07 pmIs Faux really that stupid to think it’s audience is so dumbed down not to catch this?
Yes.
July 2nd, 2008 at 4:08 pmIt's all so despairing, isn't it? I mean...to take this low tack and physically demean someone because you don't like their politics. What...are they all twelve years old?
July 2nd, 2008 at 4:11 pmMaybe someone noticed this on the thread, but this reminds me of the Nazi era when they would exaggerate facial features of the Jewish people and make them look inhuman and monstrous for propaganda purposes.
I can see I'm not missing anything new since I stopped watching Fixed News.
July 2nd, 2008 at 4:11 pmDamn, these retards (Doocy and Kilmeade) can't get away with anything anymore.
Oh, shucks.
July 2nd, 2008 at 4:11 pmroz,
pictures don't lie.
fox is a nauseating
whore house of propaganda
that oozes with hypocrisy.
right , tk?
?
thank you.
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July 2nd, 2008 at 4:13 pmBigtime - If that's the case...then I'm worried that they are overburdening their production department because they needs must 'squeeze the picture' to get it in. And if that's the case, wouldn't someone during the production of this little video, say...wait a minute...they really look completely different, we really can't use this so let's scrap it? Apparently there is no one at the production level that would (or that would WANT to) put a stop to it.
July 2nd, 2008 at 4:15 pmIs Faux really that stupid to think it’s audience is so dumbed down not to catch this?
The people who watch Fox rarely watch anything else.
So, yes. They are that stupid.
But honestly, look at how stupid we are collectively. After reading that, imagine, if you can, how much MORE stupid people are who have no curiosity or concern for anything but validating their own opinions. (Insert Chimpy McFlightsuit joke here.)
July 2nd, 2008 at 4:15 pmWHY?
July 2nd, 2008 at 4:17 pmWhy would Faux News do this?
Why is rogerze(rogerzlur) drunk again?
bigtime patriot Says:
I have also worked in video production and if you seriously think that these were not intentionally altered then your computer screen needs adjustment...
Yes, pictures can be squeezed accidently through compression and stretched through re-sizing... but the changes would be uniform... for both pictures... they are not.
These are obviously altered... as was the photo of Steinberg's head on the poodle that Reddicliffe is walking, unless you think that they posed in costume for that flattering photo?
July 2nd, 2008 at 4:18 pmWhoa. Simply incredible. Who would think to even do that? And for what purpose?
Amazing.
July 2nd, 2008 at 4:18 pmWhat a load of horsesh!t.
If the difference between the two images was a matter of a different calibration, the whole image would be yellow, not just the teeth. And a distorted photo distorts everything in the same way -- it doesn't make the head narrower and the nose wider.
Get real.
July 2nd, 2008 at 4:18 pmI'm no Tee Vee production expert, but I know how to use PhotoShop.
Steinberg's nose, forehead, chin, and teeth were altered. Along with the addition of dark shadows under his eyes, more of the same occurred for Reddicliffe's hair and forehead.
July 2nd, 2008 at 4:20 pmI thought the use of a poodle as an attack was rather stupid also...what did Forrest Gump's mother tell him about stupid?
July 2nd, 2008 at 4:22 pmTP has decided that it's not right to display distorted pictures of those with whom one disagrees? Long overdue. ;)
July 2nd, 2008 at 4:22 pmHow does Fox manage to make Doocy look like an animatron from a scary disney ride?
July 2nd, 2008 at 4:24 pmDear Mr. Pigtime Idiot:
You sir are full of shit!
July 2nd, 2008 at 4:25 pmuptight right Says:
TP has decided that it’s not right to display distorted pictures of those with whom one disagrees? Long overdue. ;)
Huh?
July 2nd, 2008 at 4:27 pm"If the difference between the two images was a matter of a different calibration, the whole image would be yellow, not just the teeth"
The color of the whole pictures are different,not just the teeth, looks like the Chroma is cranked up a bit more on the tv shots, the amount of pink in the skin tones is higher on the second shots just as the amount of yellow in the teeth are cranked up. I'm just saying, if you look closely at TV shows, live shows probably more than others, they aren't that perfect, and the people who are busy throwing these graphics together and the shows together probably think the highest priority is to get the things on the air, not whether they are perfect. Yes, I agree, pictures of people as poodles are MOST LIKELY ALTERED INTENTIONALLY ;-).
Also, even if done intentionally, I am not able to judge the amount of the affect from the picture shown on this website. What method was used to grab the picture from the video for comparison? Electronically from the signal? If so, using what hardware? A photo of a monitor? If so, what brand of monitor, what brand of camera, etc.
Just because I trust thinkprogress's political judgements doesn't mean I know what THEIR technical image skills are any more than Fox's.
My basic point is what I said, do you think Fox is THAT PERFECT? or just people who mess up?
Go ahead, keep defending Fox's technical competence, I'm sure the people in the production department appreciate your continued confidence.
July 2nd, 2008 at 4:28 pmTrikkieDick Says:
If that’s true about the pictures,
Can you not see them right in front of you????
its hilarious.
Okay, what humor do you find in this?
July 2nd, 2008 at 4:29 pmJuvenile, childish humor, perhaps?
Kindegarten?
KibbleTrick, it is hilarious- hilariously stupid.
July 2nd, 2008 at 4:29 pmBigtime, I think your chroma is cranked up a bit.
July 2nd, 2008 at 4:31 pmbigtime patriot Says:
So, you think that the two did pose in costume for the poodle/master shot?
Fox doesn't have the technical know-how to operate photoshop?
July 2nd, 2008 at 4:31 pmDear Mr. Pigtime Idiot:
After reading your "technical" explanation I have deciced:
You sir are STILL full of shit!
July 2nd, 2008 at 4:34 pm______
DRxJ Says:
Huh?
July 2nd, 2008 at 4:27 pm
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You must have been so focused on the content that you hadn't noticed anything unusual about many of the photos TP displays. It's ok if you didn't get it. TP does. ;)
July 2nd, 2008 at 4:35 pmFox News- We distort, you deny.
July 2nd, 2008 at 4:35 pmI like how they make Hannity look like an actor in the silent pictures.
July 2nd, 2008 at 4:36 pmBp:
July 2nd, 2008 at 4:42 pmSorry- didn't see you agree that the poodle shot was altered, ignore first part of 56...
second part stands... they don't have any technical skills at all at Fox? I dislike the network but I have to believe that they hire professionals... also these photos are not distorted uniformly, your argument doesn't hold water... sounds more like your carrying water for Fox than critiquing their technical ability.
shoeless Says:
Fox News- We distort, you deny.
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And I only thought that they distorted the news....
July 2nd, 2008 at 4:43 pm"Bigtime" producer:
Yes, the chroma is cranked up a touch. But all three channels have been goosed. In the Steinberg photo, if it was a global color shift, the gray in the gentleman's salt-and-pepper hair would have a yelllow tinge. It does not. Likewise the blue of his shirt collar would have shifted toward the green spectrum. No such shift is visible.
And you conveniently ignored the broadened nose in an otherwise vertically-stretched image.
Your continued defense of this incident as an accident of technology betrays you as a Faux News apologist. It also seriously calls into question the supposed expertise you trumpet as a source of authority.
July 2nd, 2008 at 4:43 pmFox News' new slogan: WE DISTORT, YOU DERIDE!
July 2nd, 2008 at 4:44 pmCan you provide us with some examples?
Thanks.
July 2nd, 2008 at 4:45 pmuplight reft Says:
You must have been so focused on the content that you hadn’t noticed anything unusual about many of the photos TP displays. It’s ok if you didn’t get it. TP does. ;)
Huh?
July 2nd, 2008 at 4:49 pmMaybe Fox is really run by the ONION.com .
July 2nd, 2008 at 5:02 pmFox news, the mouthpiece of the Gop and white house.
July 2nd, 2008 at 5:05 pmIt looks like they tried to make them look middle eastern , I wonder why? Shame on them.
People will start to realize that they push the views of the current administration and don't even care about the real news.
When infants are called out for their wrongs they tend to throw an immature tantrum, hench, Faux...Far from Balanced.
I am a special effects and compositing pro, and that was some lame photoshop work, must of been Shaun or Billo with a beginner version.
July 2nd, 2008 at 5:06 pmSo TrippleKick:
July 2nd, 2008 at 5:16 pmDoes torture work? Come on now don't be a pussy...
This is more proof that faux is desperate and they know they are failing.
July 2nd, 2008 at 5:19 pmWhen I think of the people who run Faux News, I see the campus Republicans from the movie "PCU" led by David Spade, living in a out of the way, sort of secret place since the "cool" people took their frat house. That they keep their "prideful" 1940-50's traditions and wear suits everywear, but not in any cool "Animal House" way. They are the rich losers even nerds and geeks avoid at all costs. Their only goals in life are to advance their agendas and make everyone else miserable.
July 2nd, 2008 at 5:21 pmThe Nazis in WWII use to create unpleasant caricatures of Jews. How telling.....
July 2nd, 2008 at 5:22 pmdbadass, if I may venture a guess...
perhaps TK's support for torture is a result of his realization that it would for sure work on him. Just dangle a spider in front of him and he'll give up his ATM code, his locker combination and his PSAT scores. Give him a purple nurple and you're looking at a messy clean-up situation requiring a case of Handi-wipes™.
July 2nd, 2008 at 5:23 pmfreakin pussies bum me out. Can't any of these idiots formulate an extended cohesive line of thought without running away when pwned?
July 2nd, 2008 at 5:48 pmIs there any doubt any more that Faux has become the Enquirer of tv entertainment? There never has, nor never will be, anything associated with 'news' on that channel.
But the trolls here and the 19%ers will still blindly watch, mouth-breathing, as they get their quota of BS pumped into their vacuous skulls, just like they do standing in the checkout line free-reading those tabloids.
July 2nd, 2008 at 5:50 pmRog2 says:
Of course this only comes from the site dedicated to systematically monitor…conservative misinformation.
Well, there is so much conservative misinformation that it takes more than one site do do it, like Huff and Media Matters.
But what's the matter Rog, are you embarrassed that non-19%ers go to your troll sites and laugh?
Gotta be humiliationg!
July 2nd, 2008 at 6:02 pmThis is incredibly sleazy and immature even for Faux News. In Japan, a person can get arrested for doodling on and disorting a politician's campaign poster. But I suppose the present FCC, with a Repugnacant majority, won't do a thing about this.
July 2nd, 2008 at 6:21 pmi know it has been said before, but i work with photoshop everyday, and whoever did the editing of these photos sucks. you can clearly see where the clone stamp tool was used. they didn't even try to blend it in using multiple layers and masking. absolutely terrible. you fail.
July 2nd, 2008 at 7:23 pmLoraS Says:
In Japan, a person can get arrested for doodling on and disorting a politician’s campaign poster.
Yes, and dishonered persons commit seppuku. Tis a shame our politicians do not have that much honor, However if there was honor among politicians we wouldn't have republiscums to begin with.
July 2nd, 2008 at 7:33 pmThis just seems almost too crazy to be true... and yet sadly I know that it is.
July 2nd, 2008 at 9:49 pmThe After photo of Steinberg looks a lot like Sean Hannity. Did anybody else notice that?
July 2nd, 2008 at 10:19 pm______
ralph the wonder llama Says:
upright left Says:
You must have been so focused on the content that you hadn’t noticed anything unusual about many of the photos TP displays.
Can you provide us with some examples?
Thanks.
July 2nd, 2008 at 4:45 pm
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Now, Ralph, if I didn't know better, I'd think that you were pretending not to know that TP deliberately creates unflattering photos of those with whom they disagree. But we both know better than that, now don't we, bud? You, of all people, would never condone hypocrisy. ;)
July 2nd, 2008 at 11:27 pmUptight righty,
July 3rd, 2008 at 3:58 amI sometimes don't look at TP for days, and, thereby, may have missed some of the photos you are referring. So could you please answer Ralph's question by giving us some examples?
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LoraS Says:
Uptight righty,
I sometimes don’t look at TP for days, and, thereby, may have missed some of the photos you are referring. So could you please answer Ralph’s question by giving us some examples?
July 3rd, 2008 at 3:58 am
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You'll understand if I choose not to waste my time pointing out the obvious. If you really haven't noticed, scroll down and look at the photo of Bush. Then scroll through a few more pages and see how many photos there are of people blinking so that they look drugged or silly and how often the photo of McCain hugging Bush appears. It's almost like TP is trying to influence your thinking with those photos. Of course, it's entirely possible that those are the only types of photos TP had available to them. Additionally, there is the fact that this is only a blog and shouldn't be held to the same standards as other forms of information. ;)
July 3rd, 2008 at 10:35 amMessage to Rupert Murdoch and Fox News:
HERE'S JOHNNY!!!
July 3rd, 2008 at 5:35 pmFrankly, uptight righty, I have seen many, many photos of George W. Bush as well as him on TV, and he never looks intelligent to me. Hearing him speak is almost torturous. Moreover, there is a difference in levels of reprehensibility between deliberately distorting a person's photo and deliberately choosng unflattering photos. Finally, if you think it is "a waste (your) time pointing out the obvious," why do you waste your and everyone else's time posting here? I doubt if you have convinced anyone but your fellow trolls here of anyof your points/claims.
July 3rd, 2008 at 9:36 pm______
LoraS Says:
Frankly, uptight righty, I have seen many, many photos of George W. Bush as well as him on TV, and he never looks intelligent to me. Hearing him speak is almost torturous. Moreover, there is a difference in levels of reprehensibility between deliberately distorting a person’s photo and deliberately choosng unflattering photos. Finally, if you think it is “a waste (your) time pointing out the obvious,” why do you waste your and everyone else’s time posting here? I doubt if you have convinced anyone but your fellow trolls here of anyof your points/claims.
July 3rd, 2008 at 9:36 pm
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I never said Bush is or looks intelligent, now did I? If he appears so unintelligent, why the need to choose unflattering photos which reflects badly on TP? I agree about listening to him speak, but that's not the issue here. Your "levels of reprehensibility" comment is rather amusing. I'm sure there was supposed to be some sort of defense for TP in there. "Hey, we are less reprehensible than FOX!"
July 4th, 2008 at 2:33 amAs for the waste of time, no I won't search for proof of things of which regular posters are well aware. And if others who hold your political views share your views about "levels of reprehensibility", I'm sure there is no chance of convincing anyone of anything. I'll still point out the hypocrisy just in case a moment of weakness opens an otherwise closed mind. ;)
Uptight-righty,
And I never accused you of saying that "Bush is or looks intelligent," did I? Moreover, since you agree that he may appear so unintelligent, maybe TP is having trouble finding flattering photos of him. The only ones I can recall seeing are when he was much, much younger; they certainly wouldn't be appropriate for using today. And like it or not, dearie (not), doctoring photos is a reprehensible act--particularly, when the "New York Times," which so riled Fox, was a rather straightforward report (I read it) on its ratings decline and something only a paranoid would call a "hit job."
July 4th, 2008 at 8:19 am______
LoraS Says:
And I never accused you of saying that “Bush is or looks intelligent,” did I? Moreover, since you agree that he may appear so unintelligent, maybe TP is having trouble finding flattering photos of him. The only ones I can recall seeing are when he was much, much younger; they certainly wouldn’t be appropriate for using today. And like it or not, dearie (not), doctoring photos is a reprehensible act–particularly, when the “New York Times,” which so riled Fox, was a rather straightforward report (I read it) on its ratings decline and something only a paranoid would call a “hit job.”
July 4th, 2008 at 8:19 am
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As I said, if Bush looks so unintelligent all the time, why not use a photo of his usual expression instead of the kind they use? Yeah, right, there are probably a limited number of photos of the President of the U.S. available and that's all they could find. I guess that's the reason they print such photos of a lot of the people with whom they disagree politically. Fantastically, though, they are able to find normal photos of people with whom they agree. It's uncanny. As for the New York Times report and whether or not it was a hit job, again, not the issue here. Altering photos is wrong. Perhaps even worse on the "reprehensible scale" than searching for, or creating from video, photos that are unflattering to those with whom you disagree. But, if you're happy with TP being "less wrong" than FOX, then there's no problem, is there? ;)
July 4th, 2008 at 11:22 amYptight righty,
July 4th, 2008 at 4:21 pmMaybe TP doesn't want to waste any more time looking for flattering photos of people than you want to spend on answering Ralph's question by pointing out specific cases. Moreover, how Fox reacted to a rather straightforward story is, in fact, part of the issue here, plain and simple. Finally, I've spent more than enough time on this matter. Basically you're here to find fault with TP and/or with liberals, so I'm sure you will keep on creating more excuses. Don't expect me to answer them.
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LoraS Says:
Yptight righty,
Maybe TP doesn’t want to waste any more time looking for flattering photos of people than you want to spend on answering Ralph’s question by pointing out specific cases. Moreover, how Fox reacted to a rather straightforward story is, in fact, part of the issue here, plain and simple. Finally, I’ve spent more than enough time on this matter. Basically you’re here to find fault with TP and/or with liberals, so I’m sure you will keep on creating more excuses. Don’t expect me to answer them.
July 4th, 2008 at 4:21 pm
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If TP used unusual looking photos of folks on both ends of the political spectrum, your first sentence would be a possibility. They don't and we all know it, so your excuse is invalid. But I'm sure TP appreciates having you try to make excuses for their deliberate distortions rather than holding them to the same standards as you do others. The fact that Fox has done something very similar and you criticize them, but not TP shows you are guilty of the same hypocrisy as TP in this matter. I find fault with anyone who is guilty of hypocrisy, especially when those people are so very quick to cry hypocrisy against others. I'll try to carry on, even without any further responses from you. ;)
July 5th, 2008 at 1:38 amRightee says:
I find fault with anyone who is guilty of hypocrisy, especially when those people are so very quick to cry hypocrisy against others. I’ll try to carry on, even without any further responses from you. ;)
Then find fault with yourself, Uptight Rightee. You are the only one here who has been quick to call others hypocrites.
July 5th, 2008 at 7:07 amAnd, for your reference, I once wrote to TP about their mistakenly identifying a photo as Democratic "Congresswoman Loretta Sanchez" when it was really of her much plumper sister Congresswoman Linda Sanchez. But I suppose you wouldn't have noticed such things. Anyway, goodbye, bud.
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LoraS Says:
Rightee says:
I find fault with anyone who is guilty of hypocrisy, especially when those people are so very quick to cry hypocrisy against others. I’ll try to carry on, even without any further responses from you. ;)
Then find fault with yourself, Uptight Rightee. You are the only one here who has been quick to call others hypocrites.
And, for your reference, I once wrote to TP about their mistakenly identifying a photo as Democratic “Congresswoman Loretta Sanchez” when it was really of her much plumper sister Congresswoman Linda Sanchez. But I suppose you wouldn’t have noticed such things. Anyway, goodbye, bud.
July 5th, 2008 at 7:07 am
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Point out my instances of hypocrisy and I'll gladly take responsibility. Notice I wrote hypocrisy, not difference of opinion. The comment about me being the only one pointing out hypocrisy is so foolish as not to warrant a response. It was worth a good laugh, though. Congratulations on pointing out TP's error. But, that is yet another attempt to steer the discussion away from the issue at hand. TP posted an article criticizing someone else for altering photos to create a certain impression when they are guilty of doing something quite similar, even if a lower "level of reprehensibility."
July 5th, 2008 at 2:05 pmGoodbye Lora, you take care, now. I knew you missed "bud.";)
Uptight Rightee,
July 5th, 2008 at 7:30 pmAre you really so thick in the head or do you just enjoy dragging out an argument by changing the point? First, while admitting that it may be hard to find intelligent-looking photos of Bush, you still criticize TP for not doing so. Two, you can't see the difference between using unflattering photos that already exist of someone and deliberately distorting photos. Third, you claim that the straightforward story Fox reacted so immaturely has nothing to do with the issue when, in fact, it has everything do do with the issue. Fourth, you have claimed that TP has never used an unflattering photo of someone it agrees with when, in fact, it once misidentified Democrat Congresswoman Loretta Sanchez, who is of not overweight, with her plump sister. Let me spell it out, dearie (not) since you don't get it. As someone who wears a size 6 or sometimes a 4, I would find it very unflattering to be misidentified with my plus size sister, as much as I may love her.
Finally, I didn't miss you, "bud." You're one of the reasons I may go for days without looking at TP.
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LoraS Says:
Uptight Rightee,
Are you really so thick in the head or do you just enjoy dragging out an argument by changing the point? First, while admitting that it may be hard to find intelligent-looking photos of Bush, you still criticize TP for not doing so. Two, you can’t see the difference between using unflattering photos that already exist of someone and deliberately distorting photos. Third, you claim that the straightforward story Fox reacted so immaturely has nothing to do with the issue when, in fact, it has everything do do with the issue. Fourth, you have claimed that TP has never used an unflattering photo of someone it agrees with when, in fact, it once misidentified Democrat Congresswoman Loretta Sanchez, who is of not overweight, with her plump sister. Let me spell it out, dearie (not) since you don’t get it. As someone who wears a size 6 or sometimes a 4, I would find it very unflattering to be misidentified with my plus size sister, as much as I may love her.
Finally, I didn’t miss you, “bud.” You’re one of the reasons I may go for days without looking at TP.
July 5th, 2008 at 7:30 pm
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You really are persistent. I won't go into the whole issue of Bush photos again. We all know the difference in a photo with a natural expression and ones with an unusual expression that makes one look foolish, drunk, sinister etc. TP has both available and chooses to use the latter. I'm sorry to hear that you would be so offended to be mistaken for your overweight sister. I hope she never discovers this side of you. The obvious difference in the misidentification is that is wasn't done intentionally. TP doesn't accidently post unflattering photos. TP posts unflattering photos of people with whom they disagree and then hypocritically criticizes Fox for doing something similar, but a little "more wrong." The original story was about Fox and their reaction to the NYT article. However, you responded to my post regarding TP's hypocrisy. We've established that Fox was wrong in what they did. That doesn't change the fact that TP was hypocritical in criticizing someone else for doing something very similar to what they do themselves.
July 6th, 2008 at 12:45 amYou should really read a little more carefully before you respond. I didn't suggest that you missed me, only "bud." ;)