McCain gets ‘visibly angry’ when challenged on whether military experience prepares him to be president.
By on Jul 2nd, 2008 at 10:39 am
McCain gets ‘visibly angry’ when challenged on whether military experience prepares him to be president.
ABC News’ David Wright reports that when he asked John McCain to “explain how his Vietnam experience prepared him for the presidency,” McCain “became visibly angry”:
McCain became visibly angry when I asked him to explain how his Vietnam experience prepared him for the Presidency.
“Please,” he said, recoiling back in his seat in distaste at the very question.
McCain allies Sen. Lindsey Graham stepped in to rescue him. Graham expressed admiration for McCain’s stance on the treatment of detainees in US custody.
It’s a legitimate question. In 2003, McCain said, “I absolutely don’t believe that it’s necessary” to have military service in order to be president. He also said military service alone is not a sufficient qualification to be president.
UpdateSen. Thad Cochran (R-MS) said he witnessed a confrontation between McCain and a Sandinista rebel decades ago in which McCain "got mad at the guy and he just reached over there and snatched him."
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..then he had to excuse himself to change his diaper...
July 2nd, 2008 at 10:41 amWright better be careful, he's not gonna "earn" himself a spot on McCain's "Straight talk Express" Bus.... er....Plane...
July 2nd, 2008 at 10:43 amYou mean "when Lindsey Graham changed his diaper"....
July 2nd, 2008 at 10:44 amexplain how his Vietnam experience prepared him for the Presidency.
- - There's a big difference between the above statement and explaining how his Vietnam experience qualifies McCain for the Presidency.
McCain doesn't have the temperament for the office.
July 2nd, 2008 at 10:44 amAh, remember the good old days of 2004 when the moron media and the GOP amen chorus said that John Kerry "saluting" at the convention meant that he was putting his military record out for scrutiny?
If being held captive makes one qualified for service then I guess it should be John McCain/Jessica Lynch 2008.
-GSD
July 2nd, 2008 at 10:46 amMcCain became visibly angry when I asked him to explain how his Vietnam experience prepared him for the Presidency.
“Please,” he said, recoiling back in his seat in distaste at the very question.
____________________________________________________
Translation: "I really don't have a response for that, so I'm hoping that if I look p!ssed off and recoil, you will somehow vanish."
July 2nd, 2008 at 10:48 am(Trolls. Please take note. The following post is actually defending McCain. Well, kind of...)
Okay. Having a father in law who served in Vietnam, who witnessed friends injured or killed, who observed such atrocities (and may have committed) that he didn't care if he lived or died, I can understand the anger, especially because he was never treated for PTSD until recently.
Bringing up this issue may elicit some untreated anger in McCain. After all, he was tortured and held captive for 5 years.
But, I do worry about a president with anger issues. Especially one who seems to be teetering on the edge of Alzheimers.
July 2nd, 2008 at 10:48 amHe is tying himself up in a series of flip-flops that will make quite a youtube highlight reel.
July 2nd, 2008 at 10:49 amIt's a legitimate question - and it deserves and answer. What exactly is he hiding? Why is it so hard for him to answer a simple question? He's touted his military experience quite frequently, it seems this should be an easy question, not something to blow your stack over. What's he hiding?
July 2nd, 2008 at 10:53 amHis qualification for being president is his Viet Nam experience but we can't ask him any questions about how his Viet Nam experience qualifies him because that would be disrespectful. OK now let's persecute Wesley Clark a decorated general for stating the obvious.
July 2nd, 2008 at 10:55 amSwiftboating Kerry was OK cause it made Bush win. Asking Insane McCain if his service in Nam prepared him to be president way over the line. We are supposed to ignore the fact that captives who cooperated lived those who didn't died. My brother was killed in the Hanoi Hilton for not cooperating So F**K McCain
July 2nd, 2008 at 10:57 amTalk about elitist!
It's really the height of arrogance to try to deflect uncomfortable questions with anger and intimidation. It also shows great disrespect for us as a people that he thinks he's above us all.
McCain should be able to answer this question in his sleep.
July 2nd, 2008 at 10:57 amHis thin skin is yet another striking similarlity to George W.
July 2nd, 2008 at 10:58 amOh, please keep poking St. John on this. I want news footage of him going off like a July 4th bottle rocket.
Thank you, General Clark & Senator Webb, for making these questions now askable. If McSame didn't have the faithful Huckleberry Hound sitting next to him wearing his dog collar & leash, what might have happened...
July 2nd, 2008 at 11:00 amThen he called the reporter a c&nt and a trollop..
July 2nd, 2008 at 11:06 amMcCain is a mean-spirted overcompensating short male with the demeanor of a spoiled rotten kid who got his mouth washed out with soap seven days a week. He has the insincerity of George W. Bush, the bullying attitude of Richard B. Cheney, the arrogance of Donald Wolfowitz and the humility of David Addington. In other words, he's an a**h**e!
July 2nd, 2008 at 11:06 amIt looks like the wings on the Straight Talk Plane are starting to show some fatigue cracks. Get out the duct tape!
July 2nd, 2008 at 11:07 amIf he can't handle David Wright how can he handle that little guy in Iran (like McCain, I can't spell his fool name)?
July 2nd, 2008 at 11:08 amBy all means stir up McCain's famous temper to show what a loose cannon he'd be as President. Preferably during the debates. Republicans love to use "character" when describing their candidates, so let's see McCain's "character" in a public forum. Without Graham or Lieberman to hold his hand and correct his loose hold on facts.
July 2nd, 2008 at 11:09 amAlso, his inability to spit out an answer shows how poorly prepared he is by staff. What kind of example is that for how he would be as preznit?
July 2nd, 2008 at 11:09 amThe question has yet to be answered. How has McCain's Vietnam experience prepared him to be President?
Is being President in any way similar to being a prisoner of war? Is the President often tortured for information, held captive, or treated inhumanly? What strong leadership was exhibited during the time of imprisonment? Why are such questions off limits?
I can understand a general who has been in command of large groups such as Eisenhower or Clark, but how does a POW compare? Double standard republicans strike again: it was ok to question Kerry's service, why not McCain's? Kerry didn't surrender to the enemy.
July 2nd, 2008 at 11:11 amActually, this should be very disturbing because the question is a softball. Had the question been: "How did your Vietnam experience qualify you to be President?" McCain would have reason to be upset since it implies that the experience alone justifies the presidency. However, the reporter's question merely asks how it prepared McCain to be president. McCain could have answered it very easily: "It gave me an opportunity to understand the peril that troops face in combat. It taught me how to be reflective and how to remain calm in the face of great personal adversity. It helped me to develop patience. and so forth." His failure to hit such a softball out of the park really makes you wonder about his temperment and judgment.
July 2nd, 2008 at 11:11 amSatirev,
I agree, and still can't figure out how Johnny Boy can even consider himself in a position to be President and CiC in what will be the most difficult time in our history.
Many better men than him couldn't take it and my sense is no matter what happens, we will see a huge decline in his health within the next 12 months.
He truly has sold his soul for a last shot at the POTUS brass ring.
July 2nd, 2008 at 11:19 amOT, but I just read on drudge where the rusher signed a $400M contract through 2016. I guess the Repugs are getting ready for a long battle over the next 8 years! Heh heh
July 2nd, 2008 at 11:23 amMcCant's inability to come up with an answer to this simple question is telling of the his campaign. There is NOTHING in his military service that could possibly qualify him aside from the ancient mantra from the Right that Repubs are the masters of military skill and might and dems are simply weak and underqualified in nat'l defense. It's a lie that has crippled Dems and distracted the voting public for a very long time and, like most GOP talking points, has little to no truth to back it up. The neocon chickenhawks that McCant has surrounded himself in his efforts to stroke the base with have never served a day in the military and therefore have no first hand knowlege of what the experience may or may not offer in terms of leadership on this issue (although clearly none exists). McCant appears not to possess the capacity to answer questions about subjects that haven't allready been scrutinized by his neocon advisers and seem to be taken aback by the Dems audacity to breech this subject after having assumed that this talking point had been put to bed long ago. Sorry Repubs, the American people see through your BS and don't feel like eating it any more. We've had enough Right Wing idiots doddering around the White House waiting for someone to tell them what to think and how to act. This time around we would like a leader with a brain of his own and an interest in America and it's people, thanks.
July 2nd, 2008 at 11:29 amUh-oh, David Wright! Be verrrrrrrrrry careful!
Ol' Grampy McCranky will either punch you in the nose or call you a c*nt!!!
July 2nd, 2008 at 11:34 amHere, again, John McCain is missing a great opportunity. And that says a lot about his campaign.
Simple statement: This is HOW my military experience adds to my qualifications...(fill in the blank).
He won't do it simply because no matter how he answers, it adds up to a small +/- at best as opposed to the great reason why we must elect him.
Besides, if he talks about it HE opens up the room to ask more specific questions about his capture and overall military record including his graduation rank in college and even his qualifications for acceptance into the military education system.
So by acting as if the questions on this topic are too over the line to be dignified by an simple answer says a lot about how he will react if his is elected president and confronted by a working press to explain things to the American public.
BTW: did anyone else marvel at the song and dance he did on TV the other day when asked if he though Obama was "patriotic"?
July 2nd, 2008 at 11:36 amI knew McLame was a former Disney character from Snow White - Grumpy.
Looks just like him too!
July 2nd, 2008 at 11:36 amSo the best McNutzi and his keeper can come up with in answer to the question is Limp Lindsey explaining that time in the Hanoi Hilton informs McNutzi's decision to vote against legislation prohibiting torture while talking a good game about treatment of detainees? Just want to make sure i understand what color the sky is on their planet this morning.
July 2nd, 2008 at 11:38 amDon't get the man pissed off. He is bound to recoil. And what then?
July 2nd, 2008 at 11:38 amSuch an easy question, such an easy answer. An elegant answer would have been that we are all a mosaic of our experiences, being a POW is one of those experiences and is part of who he is. It is too simplistic to distill his preparation for President to one part of his life, but that being a POW is part of who he is.
But he didn't answer that way, or even more eloquently as JMOHR has suggested, he just flies off the handle and soils himself again. His angry response is very telling.
July 2nd, 2008 at 11:41 amThe only thing McCain's military experience qualifies him for is to spend the next four years in Dick Cheney's man-sized safe.
July 2nd, 2008 at 11:47 amGood for this reporter. Now he has to encourage more of his colleagues to ask the tough questions of McShame. Let the country get a good look at what kind of hothead they will be getting if they buy this guy for four years. In his own way he is far worse (hard to think it is possible) than his idol the bushwacker. Clearly, 'the classic flip-flopper' needs to be exposed for the unstable person he is. We don't need someone in the White House who should be in a psych ward.
July 2nd, 2008 at 11:48 amBob Says:
Is the President often tortured for information, held captive, or treated inhumanly?
No, they have Arlen Spector for that.
July 2nd, 2008 at 11:49 amnever piss off a grandpa. Even the rocking chair ones get all surly and start that whole why you little whippersnapper rant. With each day this fellow seems to morph more and more into Grandpa Simpsons. "Twisted Tail, 1000 eyes, eepa eeepa"
July 2nd, 2008 at 11:52 amDon’t get the man pissed off. He is bound to recoil. And what then?
Keel over stone-cold dead?
July 2nd, 2008 at 11:52 amMcCain: get him to lose his temper here and now, to keep him from having the opportunity to do so there and then.
McCain does not have the temperament, skills, knowledge, or ideas to be President.
July 2nd, 2008 at 11:55 amI don't wish PTSD on anyone, but, clearly, America can't take a chance on this loose cannon.
July 2nd, 2008 at 11:57 amBush is certified psychotic. McCain is insane.
McCain has run on his "hero" stance since he's been in politics. It's fair game, there's no doubt about it. And to all you right wing nutjobs out there who think this is a non-issue, will you please explain to me why McCain's camp refuses to disclose McCain's naval records?
Quoted from article by Jeffrey Klein:
"The Navy may claim that it already released McCain's record to the Associated Press on May 7, 2008 in response to the AP's Freedom of Information Act request. But the McCain file the Navy released contained 19 pages -- a two-page overview and 17 pages detailing Awards and Decorations. Each of these 17 pages is stamped with a number. These numbers range from 0069 to 0636. When arranged in ascending order, they precisely track the chronology of McCain's career. It seems reasonable to ask the Navy whether there are at least 636 pages in McCain's file, of which 617 weren't released to the Associated Press.
Some of the unreleased pages in McCain's Navy file may not reflect well upon his qualifications for the presidency. From day one in the Navy, McCain screwed-up again and again, only to be forgiven because his father and grandfather were four-star admirals. McCain's sense of entitlement to privileged treatment bears an eerie resemblance to George W. Bush's."
I'm waiting for an answer.
July 2nd, 2008 at 12:00 pmA bit further down in the article, you could find this:
McCain then collected himself and apologized for his initial reaction.
"I kind of reacted the way I did because I have a reluctance to talk about my experiences," he said, noting that he has huge admiration for the "heroes" who served with him in the POW camp and said the experience taught him to love the U.S. because he missed it so much.
"I am always reluctant to talk about these things," McCain said.
Asked about one of his former jailors from the notorious Hanoi Hilton who has now endorsed his candidacy for President, McCain chuckled.
"Yeah, I saw that," he said. "He also said that he and I used to have these nice, long philosophical chats. The ones that I recall is, confess or else."
One of the universal characteristics I have noted about Combat Veterans (note: I am not one) is their reluctance to talk about their experiences with people who didn't go through it. I imagine the same must be true in spades for POW's who underwent the torture that McCain did.
Yes, I know he has written about it, but that is different from being badgered about it as he has in the last couple of news cycles.
I was listening to Randi Rhodes yesterday and she was going off on how this whole line of attack was political idiocy on the part of the Dems, and I totally agree with her. As always when stuff like this happens, I look at what Obama himself does and he wants no part of this discussion, it is clear.
July 2nd, 2008 at 12:01 pmIf McDepends is on a 100% disability, how can he be President? And if he isn't 100% disabled, why is he drawing $56,000/year in disability?
Either he is unqualified or he is scamming the US Government.
July 2nd, 2008 at 12:02 pmThe man is such a mess. He is not qualified to run a McDonalds, let alone be POTUS facing the massive problems GWB created.
July 2nd, 2008 at 12:04 pmcitizen_pain Says:
McCain’s sense of entitlement to privileged treatment bears an eerie resemblance to George W. Bush’s.
Comment of the day.
July 2nd, 2008 at 12:06 pmMcCain owns 7 houses, but doesn't pay property taxes, I guess.
That 'eerie resemblance' isn't by chance, however.
Corporate America will spend untold millions to get a 'Yes Man' in the White House. Anyone looking to cut their profit margin is suspect. Obama fits that profile, at least to an extent.
McCain was bought & sold decades ago.
Righties, is the best you got? So be it. Good luck with that!
Keltoi Says:
I agree with you. This should become a non or a low priority issue. Obama can wipe McCain up in 3-4 real debates. Just 10 or so of his 50+ flip flops and deeper discussion of economic and defense issues will put Johnny Boy on his arse.
July 2nd, 2008 at 12:06 pmupside99 Says:
Keltoi Says:
I agree with you. This should become a non or a low priority issue. Obama can wipe McCain up in 3-4 real debates. Just 10 or so of his 50+ flip flops and deeper discussion of economic and defense issues will put Johnny Boy on his arse.
Y'know, I tend to agree with you, the two of them standing side by side on a stage seems like it would benefit Obama in everyway.
And yet...Obama has dodged McCains challenge to meet in 10 town hall meetings, and that after expressing a willingness to do so earlier in the campaign. Why?
If you are right - and again, it sure seems like a lopsided advantage for O. - why is he ducking him? It makes him seem afraid to go mano-a-mano, and yet by any measure Obama should mop the deck with him. What gives?
July 2nd, 2008 at 12:18 pmKeep piling it on the old coot! Let's expose the hair trigger temper that disqualifies him to have access and control over the nuke codes.
July 2nd, 2008 at 12:22 pmKrippleTick, I'll take community organizing and state senate experience, sprinkled in with some University lecturing on the goddamn piece of paper your effing leader refers to.
July 2nd, 2008 at 12:24 pmRunning a training command and loafing in the Senate after having one's political career finances by mobsters isn't much of a resume. And the POW experience is great qualification for being a prisoner in a federal penitentiary, which is where McIIIrd should have spent some time after the Keating scandal.
oopers, finances = financed, as in past tense, but may be correct, since his current trophyc*nt's money is a mobster legacy fortune...
July 2nd, 2008 at 12:25 pmWorse than the poor attitude and hot temper is the fact that he is dead wrong on many, many policy positions. A McCain presidency will wipe out the already lopsided Supreme Court and will be a continuation of the horrendous Neo-con Empire. If you want more wars, more loss of civil liberties, more power to unscrupulous corporations, more damage to our environment, more tax breaks to the extremely wealthy, more arrogance and bullying, then by all means vote McCain.
July 2nd, 2008 at 12:26 pmKeltoi Says:
And yet…Obama has dodged McCains challenge to meet in 10 town hall meetings, and that after expressing a willingness to do so earlier in the campaign. Why?
If you are right - and again, it sure seems like a lopsided advantage for O. - why is he ducking him? It makes him seem afraid to go mano-a-mano, and yet by any measure Obama should mop the deck with him. What gives?
I don't know the real answer, but maybe the last "town Hall meeting" that McCain stages, was just that; staged. Just like Dubya's. Invite only your friends and throw out anyone who has any dissenting opinion.
I am guessing that they will happen, but that both sides need to feel they are on more or less equal footing, going in.
July 2nd, 2008 at 12:34 pmTrippleKick Says:
ABC would better ask Barry Obama how not having any experience doing anything whatsoever prepares him to be CIC and President.
And what experience did St. Ronny have? Outside of making war movies, that is?
July 2nd, 2008 at 12:35 pmbarfly Says:
And what experience did St. Ronny have? Outside of making war movies, that is?
Umm...Governor of the largest State in the Union, maybe?
July 2nd, 2008 at 12:41 pmbarfly,
You mean aside from being 8 year governor of one of the worlds largest economies?
It wasn't back then, but nice try. And what did he do as governor that prepared him for the WH? He had the same amount of foreign policy experience as Obama has now.
July 2nd, 2008 at 12:42 pmUmm…Governor of the largest State in the Union, maybe?
Was it, back then? I believe Texas was the largest, population-wise, while Reagan was in office. He still had no foreign-policy experience.
July 2nd, 2008 at 12:44 pmAnd if you're arguing the simply being a former governor qulaifies one to be president, I give you George Bush...
July 2nd, 2008 at 12:45 pmme thinks mcCREEPY is worried about some inadequacy (at best) in his military history coming to light...
he does NOT want to go there...
July 2nd, 2008 at 12:50 pmbarfly,
You just got served. Deal with it.
I am, by pointing out that Reagan's time as governor did little to prepare him for the WH. And we have Iran/Contra, demonstrating that his time as governor didn't really inculcate him with democratic values, or repect for other countries' sovereignty. So it would seem that previously positions really don't serve as a true predictor of how a president will do in office.
July 2nd, 2008 at 12:53 pmobama wasn't/isn't "ducking" mcBUSH, keltoi -
July 2nd, 2008 at 12:56 pmhe just had/has better, more important things to do...
like, "get to know me!"
I told you guys a bunch of times. You didn't listen and now you've pissed the old coot off.
July 2nd, 2008 at 12:57 pmkaty Says:
obama wasn’t/isn’t “ducking” mcBUSH, keltoi -
he just had/has better, more important things to do…
like, “get to know me!”
How better to introduce himself to the general public than dancing rhetorical rings around his rival 10 times in 10 weeks? Honestly, it seems like a great opportunity for O., given that the conventional wisdom is he'll destroy McCain in any side by side match up...he could build a double digit lead and never look back, but he doesn't. Again: Why not?
July 2nd, 2008 at 1:01 pmTrippleKick Says:
ABC would better ask Barry Obama how not having any experience doing anything whatsoever prepares him to be CIC and President.
Obama has done nothing, whatsoever? To be fair, you don't have much to work with, but this is silly. Obama has accomplished many things which would make any of us proud. Your posts are getting into the realm of ranting.
Frankly, I expect better of you.
July 2nd, 2008 at 1:04 pmit's not his style... he has his own method, and timing...
and, maybe he doesn't want to make the mcGRAMPS look too bad...
he's a nice, considerate dude, after all...
he can call the shots, and so why not.
July 2nd, 2008 at 1:05 pmKeltoi Says:
katy Says:
obama wasn’t/isn’t “ducking” mcBUSH, keltoi -
he just had/has better, more important things to do…
like, “get to know me!”
How better to introduce himself to the general public than dancing rhetorical rings around his rival 10 times in 10 weeks? Honestly, it seems like a great opportunity for O., given that the conventional wisdom is he’ll destroy McCain in any side by side match up…he could build a double digit lead and never look back, but he doesn’t. Again: Why not?
Another poster alluded to this earlier. McSame has a habit - a very bad habit - of filling the chairs with sychophants and water carriers. He has done this on at least two occasions I can think of. The 'meetings' are always advertised as open and transparent, but they truly are not.
Until the logistical details can be worked out - and while Obama is leading in the national polls - what's the rush?
Frankly, the last thing McCain needs is to be side to side with a magnificent speaker such as Obama. Think of the Kennedy-Nixon debates. Not a pretty picture.
July 2nd, 2008 at 1:09 pmHey trickledicker, you came back for another beatdown today?
Good. I suppose that since you are a die hard neocon, then you support an attack against Iran.
Here's a question for you:
A lot of right wing, flag sucking half-wits like yourself believe that we have been in a de-facto war against Iran since '79, the hostage crisis.
Do you believe this?
And if so, then wouldn't that make your Golden Idol, Ronny Raygun, a traitor, since he sold them arms all throughout the 80's? See Iran-Contra.
July 2nd, 2008 at 1:10 pmBecause, Keltoi, the batsh*t crazy old coot wants it ALL HIS WAY, and he won't negotiate any other format.
Why should Obama allow McCrazy to dictate the terms? Old Batsh*t McCrazy needs to get over himself.
July 2nd, 2008 at 1:10 pmAnd...if McCrazy is going to trade daily on his hero status AND hire the Swiftboat Liars for his campaign, not to mention take their money, well, we have the right to poke holes in the lies they're telling.
As they say in court, he "opened the door" to this line of questioning.
July 2nd, 2008 at 1:13 pmkaty Says:
and, maybe he doesn’t want to make the mcGRAMPS look too bad…
he’s a nice, considerate dude, after all…
Oh, SURE, katy, it is because he doesn't want to become the most powerful man on Earth in too aggressive a way! That is cute.
No, it is tactical, but it shows that he feels he has something to lose but engaging McCain directly, which is a sign of weakness McCain would be wise to exploit.
As StratRat said, McCain - and all politicians - pack the town hall with sympathizers, but obviously any joint appearance would have pre-negotiations to address this.
It is too bad. I really liked the idea of the two candidates sharing an airplane and flying around the country to debate in front of regular citizens instead of a panel of journalists. It would have sigaled that winning well was more important than winning, but that thought is just as innocent as the idea the O. is dodging McCain because he doesn't want to embarass him. Such is life.
July 2nd, 2008 at 1:16 pmTrippleKick Says:
StratRat ,
Sounds like you’re dreaming if you believe Obama has made any significant contributions as Senator or if he has made any achievements at all. Why don’t you educate me as to Barry’s qualifications and achievements.
Graduating Harvard and being editor of the Law Review would be a good place to start. Getting elected as a Black man would be another accomplishment. Rising to the upper ranks in the Senate would be another accomplishment. Becoming the Democratic candiate (again, as a Black man) would be still another accomplishment. Raising millions of dollars - in $22.00 increments, would be still another. Making a success of himself - considering his background, would still be another.
But these don't mean anything to the right side, or you. You don't value education, don't value achievement, don't value community service, don't value hard work. Your values live in the entitlement world of taking what you can get away with, and then thinking our efforts were the cause.
Your jealousy of Obama's achievements are obvious. Maybe you would like him better if he crashed five planes and made propoganda films for the vietcong? Maybe if he left his ailing wife? Maybe if he demeaned women on a daily basis? Maybe you would like him if he were more like you?
July 2nd, 2008 at 1:22 pmLeftside Annie Says:
Because, Keltoi, the batsh*t crazy old coot wants it ALL HIS WAY, and he won’t negotiate any other format.
Why should Obama allow McCrazy to dictate the terms? Old Batsh*t McCrazy needs to get over himself.
Wow! That is cool, Annie! You were in the room when they were negotiating? Or are you just parroting Obama's excuse for why he isn't going to live up to a previous pledge?
Can I steal your eyeroll for a minute? Thanks.
July 2nd, 2008 at 1:22 pmMcCain doesn't have the mental abilities to talk with our allies let alone more difficult diplomatic discussions. He will be quick to the trigger, damn the consequences.
July 2nd, 2008 at 1:22 pmKeltoi Says:
... it shows that he feels he has something to lose but engaging McCain directly, which is a sign of weakness McCain would be wise to exploit.
ah hahahahaha! now THAT's "cute"!
you keep tellin' yourself that, keltoi!
"something to lose... weakness" ... ha! hooo... ok...
July 2nd, 2008 at 1:23 pmDribbleDick Says:
Btw,
July 2nd, 2008 at 1:23 pmTo the Nixon detractors, did you see how not much love was poured out from the hearts of Americans when my hero passed? Blah Blah Blah (insert unwarranted attack on the left here).
I hope the innocent blood that Raygun spilled during his horrendous term as POTUS trickles down to Hell faster than the dollars have trickled down via his bogus economic plan.
July 2nd, 2008 at 1:25 pmTrickleDick,
July 2nd, 2008 at 1:25 pmYou've been served by StratRat!
Have a wonderful and productive day!
and, keltoie, i agree:
I really liked the idea of the two candidates sharing an airplane and flying around the country to debate in front of regular citizens instead of a panel of journalists.
it may happen yet...
but i do think it will be a painful thing to watch a once dignified actual hero turn into a blithering dolt...
i wouldn't want to see THAT...
July 2nd, 2008 at 1:28 pmThe Dems need to start running the ad where McSenile sings
"Bomb Bomb Iran".
Over and over.
To show what McBush REALLY would be like as a "commander-in-chief".
Go home to your 100 MILLION dollar fortune, and leave the country to those who CARE about its people and security.
Which McLame OBVIOUSLY does NOT!!
"Bomb Bomb Iran!! Can I be 'president' now???"
July 2nd, 2008 at 1:28 pmoops - sorry about the misspell!
July 2nd, 2008 at 1:29 pmThat's right ARN, McCain displays his versatility with that insipid "Bomb, bomb, bomb", by being both juvenile and senile at the same time.
July 2nd, 2008 at 1:30 pmTrippleKick Says:
Btw,
To the Reagan detractors, did you not see how much love was poured out from the hearts of Americans when Ronnie passed? You don’t have to like him, but then again you are the extreme, marginalized left so that doesn’t surprise me.
Yeah, the Rapeublitards like YOU just LOVED the TRAITOR who was Ronald Reagan. REAL Americans know better.
He was a LIAR, GENOCIDIST (Iran/Contra) and TRAITOR to the USA (subverting the US Constitution and Congress).
Now BURNING IN HELL, waiting for the TREASONOUS Bush Crime Family.
Ronnie's MASTER Satan is DEFINITELY waiting on W, to SMASH HIS FACE IN EVERY SECOND FOR ETERNITY!
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
July 2nd, 2008 at 1:35 pmTrippleKick Says:
StratRat,
Your pathetic laundry list is hardly a list of qualifications?
Barry’s achievments
* Graduating Harvard? Clearly a presidential qualification, especially for elitists like Barry.
* being editor of the Law Review - Is that a joke?
* Elected while Black? - LOL What century are you in? He’s a liberal democrat elected by Chicagans. Being black is practically a prerequisite.
* Rising to the upper ranks in the Senate would be another accomplishment. - Possibly, if it were true. The guy’s a .jr Senator with no legislation to speak of.
Utter rubbish. All of it.
Yeah. Bomb Bomb Iran, Mr. McSenile. Another TRAITOR to the USA, just like the Bush WAR CRIMINALS.
July 2nd, 2008 at 1:37 pmWhat "previous pledge" Keltoi? I hadn't heard of any such.
Um, so, why don't you tell me exactly *why* I should buy McLame's load of crap (and yours) - you know, instead of believing what my chosen candidate says...? Hmmmm?
Or just perhaps you could 'splain me why I should take the word of a lying and expedient pandering old coot who has flip-flopped so often that he can't remember what he says from one hour to the next...? (Or else he's just senile, but that's not much better.)
I'll be waiting for my answer.
Oh - and yeah, I'm feeling generous. Help yourself to an *eyeroll*. They're on special this week.
July 2nd, 2008 at 1:41 pmWhy Obama will not do town halls with McCain?
1. Obama offered to do two and McCain wanted ten. They could not agree although some say that McCain demanded ten or none.
2. Obama declined the first town hall that McCain and his friends organized. Turns out that the audience had not been picked out in a random manner. Instead, it consisted of party members and conservatives. If you do not believe me, then you should believe FOX News which condemned the town hall as anything but what it had been held out to be.
3. Frankly, I got tired of the primary debates by both sides. We will already have presidential debates scheduled. Town halls are nice, but ten town halls seems excessive in addition to the debates.
4. McCain has some serious fund raising problems. His insistence on numerous town halls creates a source of free publicity. Sorry, after the Republicans have so out spent Democrats in the past several elections, I can understand why Obama would let McCain twist in the wind.
July 2nd, 2008 at 1:41 pmExtreme marginalized left = 75% of Americans.
Who is marginalized trickledick?
You Repugnicunts better practice saying President Obama, it's coming like a freight train.
July 2nd, 2008 at 1:41 pmTrippleKick Says:
StratRat,
Your pathetic laundry list is hardly a list of qualifications?
Barry’s achievments
* Graduating Harvard? Clearly a presidential qualification, especially for elitists like Barry.
* being editor of the Law Review - Is that a joke?
* Elected while Black? - LOL What century are you in? He’s a liberal democrat elected by Chicagans. Being black is practically a prerequisite.
* Rising to the upper ranks in the Senate would be another accomplishment. - Possibly, if it were true. The guy’s a .jr Senator with no legislation to speak of.
Utter rubbish. All of it.
Again, your jealousy is showing badly - really badly. None of the achievements is 'rubbish'. Your acceptance of those achievements is not anything I care about. You asked for some achievements, I offered some in a short, concise way. You don't accept them as being 'suitable' achievements.
Those achievements (however minimal to you) would (should) make any American proud - except for the right side. If you never graduated high school, I can appreciate you not accepting education as any sort of achievement. If you never had to walk in the shoes of a Black man in today's society - even in Chicago, I could understand why you would discount this task.
All in all, I am proud of Obama's accomplishments because I understand the challenges he had to overcome. If you were an honest person, you would agree.
Now, do you want to talk about McCain's, uhmmm, *cough* accomplishments or Obama's bowling score?
July 2nd, 2008 at 1:47 pmMcCain's Accomplishments:
- Flip-flopper Extraordinaire
- Crashing 5 planes
- Getting himself captured
- Partying down and skating on his dad's rank
- Making propaganda videos for the enemy
- Marrying an heiress
- Beating up collegues
- Abusing his wife in front of witnesses
- Barbequing baby backs
Have I left out anything?
July 2nd, 2008 at 1:54 pmLefside Annie, you forgot the man crush on the Chimperor.
July 2nd, 2008 at 1:58 pm"Ace" McCain destroyed five aircraft during his Naval career.
Five American aircraft.
By the standards the GOP uses to pick its candidates, McCain is qualified.
July 2nd, 2008 at 1:58 pmOh yeah, Nan, and I forgot "pandering" as well.
My bad.
July 2nd, 2008 at 1:59 pmGame, set, and match TrippleKick. Don't go away mad, just go away.
July 2nd, 2008 at 2:01 pmLeftside Annie Says:
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McCain’s Accomplishments:
- Flip-flopper Extraordinaire
- Crashing 5 planes
- Getting himself captured
- Partying down and skating on his dad’s rank
- Making propaganda videos for the enemy
- Marrying an heiress
- Beating up collegues
- Abusing his wife in front of witnesses
- Barbequing baby backs
Have I left out anything?
Yes, you forgot dumping his first wife when she lost her health and looks for a trophy wife 18 years his junior.
July 2nd, 2008 at 2:02 pmAnd then there's the Keating Five, the dumping of his car wrecked wife, the real estate deals with Don Diamond.....
His qualifications for President go on and on don't they?
July 2nd, 2008 at 2:02 pmHe actually snatched a Sandinista with those stubby little troll arms of his?
July 2nd, 2008 at 2:15 pmTrickledicker:
So, by your own admission then, Reagan was a traitor for selling arms to Iran's Ayatollah, because, as you stated, radical Islam has been at war with us for 29 years.
Thanks for backing up my point.
Oh, and one more thing. Do you think that the CIA's toppling of Iran's prime minister Mossadegh in 1954, because he nationalized Iran's oil production, had anything to do with radical Islam?
Game. Set. Match.
July 2nd, 2008 at 2:22 pmTrickledicker:
So, by your own admission then, Reagan was a traitor for selling arms to Iran's Ayatollah, because, as you stated, radical Islam has been at war with us for 29 years.
Thanks for backing up my point.
Oh, and one more thing. Do you think that the CIA's toppling of Iran's prime minister Mossadegh in 1954, because he nationalized Iran's oil production, had anything to do with radical Islam?
Game. Set. Match.
July 2nd, 2008 at 2:22 pmLeftside Annie Says:
What “previous pledge” Keltoi? I hadn’t heard of any such.
Obama offered to meet McCain "anytime, anywhere."
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/06/13/1139057.aspx
Um, so, why don’t you tell me exactly *why* I should buy McLame’s load of crap (and yours) - you know, instead of believing what my chosen candidate says…? Hmmmm?
You shouldn't, but neither candidates version of why they couldn't reach an agreement on the meetings should be accepted at face value.
Or just perhaps you could ’splain me why I should take the word of a lying and expedient pandering old coot who has flip-flopped so often that he can’t remember what he says from one hour to the next…? (Or else he’s just senile, but that’s not much better.)
I’ll be waiting for my answer.
Well, as always, I don't quite agree with your characterizations of McCain, but I don't expect you to like him.
Oh - and yeah, I’m feeling generous. Help yourself to an *eyeroll*. They’re on special this week.
Sweet! I'll save it for later, though, just in case.
July 2nd, 2008 at 2:23 pmI would just like to point out that I would rather have had McCain in office during our darkest day (9/11) then our current idjit who had the "deer in the headlights" look for 7 friggin' minutes.
McCain would have made better decisions than these:
The nation is under attack. The leader of the nation could be targeted. What does he do? Sit stonefaced with a bunch of CHILDREN, putting their lives at risk.
The nation is under attack by airplanes. What does he do? Fly around the country, in an airplane!
OBL is considered a prime suspect. What does our leader do? Let his family leave our country without questioning them. (Yeah, like a detective would let a criminal's family just up and leave).
OBL is hiding out in Afghanistan. He's supposedly trapped somewhere in Tora Bora. What does our leader do? Pull the majority of our troops over to a nation that poses no threat.
McCain might not be a great decider now, but he sure as well would have been a better choice than Dubya fck up!!!
July 2nd, 2008 at 2:33 pmDicktrickler:
July 2nd, 2008 at 2:49 pmCan you enlighten us all on the tremendous record of achievement McCain has accumulated in his 25 + years as a poitician?
After seeing PLC's excellent McCain song, I realized mine needed a lot of work. So, here is the revised version:
Don’t know much about the economy
July 2nd, 2008 at 3:08 pmCan't remember my own history
Don’t know how I crashed like a kook
Don’t know how I got caught by the Gooks
Don’t know how my imprisonment
Is relevant to being President
Don't know the difference in Iraqi clans
But I know I want to bomb Iran
Don't know why I hugged Dubya Bush
Don't know why even kissed his tush
But I do know that if I fool you
And I know if you vote for me too
What a blundering Prez I will be
When legitimate questions cause him visible anger, maybe it is time to ask a few more of them -- when he has a vertical hissy on camera, that will take care of his candidacy.
July 2nd, 2008 at 3:12 pmRUCerious Says:
... since his current trophyc*nt’s money is a mobster legacy fortune…
Yes, Cindy's father hired McSame as a Marketing exec. and then proceded to sell Johnny boy as a Congressman to the people of Arizona.
July 2nd, 2008 at 3:16 pmTrikkieDick Says:
StratRat,
July 2nd, 2008 at 3:32 pmIf you think you won your argument,
He doesn't need to "think". He knows. As does anyone else who happened to witness the debate.
According to you, a qualified Democratic presidential candidate is an educated black man who orates nicely when tele-prompted.
And you completely missed his point of the hurdles Obama had to face, and still does, to be at this point. But, I guess, if you're a racist, you're blinded by accomplishments.
Wow, excuse me if I’m not impressed.
Like anyone cares.
What else you got? Face it, Barry is an empty suit.
Republican talking point one.
When Americans start paying attention and see that Barry’s snuggled up with home grown terrorists like Bill Ayers,
Rehashed Republican talking point number 2 (debunked)
and hangs with anti-american Jerry Wright
Rehashed Republican talking point number 3 (debunked)
they’ll weight those facts along with your pathetic list of Obama “accomplishments”
Only a racist would judge his accomplishments as "pathetic".
and judge accordingly.
Oh, they will my friend, they will! Come November, I expect your humble apology!
TrikkieDick Says:
Wow calling Cindy McCain a vile word like trophycnt really shows how hateful and juvenile you are
And since McCain has used nearly the same word, I expect you to call him "hateful and juvenile".
July 2nd, 2008 at 3:36 pmCindy playfully twirled McCain's hair and said, "You're getting a little thin up there." McCain's face reddened, and he responded, "At least I don't plaster on the makeup like a trollop, you cunt."
July 2nd, 2008 at 3:36 pmTrikkieDick Says:
DRxJ
Don’t you dare call me a racist. You don’t know anything about me and I’ve never once said anything remotely racist. Throwing down the race card every time Barry gets challenged is getting real tired. You better save your race card for another day.
Spoken like a true racist.
July 2nd, 2008 at 3:37 pmI thank you.
I really, really do!
TrikkieDick Says:
Don’t you dare call me a racist. I don't see color, and one of my best friends is black.
July 2nd, 2008 at 3:40 pmJohn McCain '08
"No He Can't"
RIP
July 2nd, 2008 at 3:52 pmSGT Stephen R. Sherman
C CO 1-5 IN (STRYKER)
KIA 3 Feb 2005
Mosul, Iraq
TrippleKick says:
I am not a racist. I just don't like black people, brown people, smart people, accomplished people, professional people, yellow people, patriotic people, democratic people, tall people, progressive people, strong people, brave people, good people, liberal people, etc...Basically, I hate anyone who doesn't look and think just like I do.
That doesn't make me racist, it makes me a republican.
July 2nd, 2008 at 4:02 pm
TrippleKick Says:
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If you think you won your argument, think again. According to you, a qualified Democratic presidential candidate is an educated black man who orates nicely when tele-prompted. Wow, excuse me if I’m not impressed. What else you got? Face it, Barry is an empty suit. When Americans start paying attention and see that Barry’s snuggled up with home grown terrorists like Bill Ayers, and hangs with anti-american Jerry Wright, they’ll weight those facts along with your pathetic list of Obama “accomplishments” and judge accordingly.
I'll let the others knock off your "points" one by one. But the one I will punch you with is this "The Anti-American Jeremiah Wright" nonsense.
It appears that Mr. Wright has more military service to THIS COUNTRY than: Mr. G.W. Bush, Mr Dick Cheney, Karl Rove, David Addington, Mr. Chertoff, Ms. Rice, Mr. Fleischer, Mr. McClellan, Mr. Feith, Mr Wolfowitz, Ms. Perino, Mr. Lieberman, Mr. Delay, Mr. Limbaugh, Mr. Hannity, Mr. O'Reilly, Mr. Murdoch, Ms. Coulter, Ms. Ingraham, Mr. Romney, Mr. Savage, Mr. Beck, Ms. Matalin, Mr. Libby, Mr. Perle, (and I know I missed a bunch but you get my point)....... COMBINED!!!!!
SO STFU!!!!!
Coward, your candidate doesn't have a FAIR chance in the world (key word being fair)
McCain '08
"No He Can't"
RIP
July 2nd, 2008 at 4:06 pmSGT Stephen R. Sherman
C CO 1-5 In (STRYKER)
KIA 3 Feb 2005
Mosul, Iraq
Regardless, Barry remains completely unqualified, unproven, unachieved and unelectable.
Yeah, says you....
The thunder of progressive change is coming, and it's coming right at you. You and folks like you have ruined the republican brand name for at least 15 years - and I thank you for that. Actually, the entire planet thanks you for that. Hey, you finally got something right! Way to go!
July 2nd, 2008 at 4:10 pmLet's face it, he is not the "straight talk," or the one to tell you the truth. He is an angry old man and it is showing. He, like Hillary, is changing his staffing to combat Obama. I just love it when the truth can not be crushed and the dark side has no where to go. Can we say we can not define Obama because truth is hard to pin point? Oh yea, oh yea.
And McCain going to Colombia (and Mexico) is only showing his lobbyists ties that has nothing (let me reiterate, nothing) to do with us Americans. We have lived 7+ years of a president filling his and his family pockets with American losses.
July 2nd, 2008 at 4:11 pmYou missed the point again, TrippleKick. The listing contains all the heroes of your side, and combined, they don't add up to the military service of one man. I know your oath does not allow independant thought, but truly, you should have something more subatantial as a retort.
Maybe you agree with TOF?
July 2nd, 2008 at 4:14 pmTrikkieDick Says:
Timothy McVeigh also served, and he’s about as Republican as it gets. Mearly serving doesn’t shield you from being exposed as a Republican nut job,
July 2nd, 2008 at 4:20 pmWhat really humors me about TrikkieDick?
That I never actually called him(her?) a racist.
Now, it was implied, make no mistake about that, but my wording was "IF you're a racist", and "I GUESS racists...", not "TrikkieDick, you racist mucking foron!"
TrikkieDick is like the cheating spouse who gets caught. Instead of fessing up, he or she takes on the classic defense of attacking the other's character.
July 2nd, 2008 at 4:24 pmPathetic? Yes.
Surprising? No.
We almost witnessed McCain's transformation into the incredible Hulk.
July 2nd, 2008 at 4:41 pmTrippleKick Says:
StratRat, et al,
its like a kindergarden class in here. Not a single classy or intelligent one amongst you.
Says the guy whose first posted comment likened us to America haters.
Hypocrite much?
July 2nd, 2008 at 5:07 pmTrippleKick
As Johnny Carson once said:
May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your armpits.
July 2nd, 2008 at 6:18 pmMcForrestalFire probably doesn't not want a serious examination of his career as a naval flyer.
July 2nd, 2008 at 8:24 pmNow, we aren't allowed to examine what caused the fire on the USS FORRESTAL. The deaths of those 132 sailors might be damaging to John McCain's legacy.
Let's just say it didn't happen.
July 3rd, 2008 at 3:09 amI'm a vet, and I would have to say asking such a bold question would only enrage someone who's gone through POW status. The question has to be asked more tactfully, something the military teaches you. Such as recognizing his status as a POW prior to engaging him with how does his status as such make him capable of presidency. The questioner did no such thing.
Vote Obama, but respect your opponents.
July 3rd, 2008 at 8:58 pm