Like in another recent brou-haha. If I tell you 3 times it must be true.

The Republican ‘Drill Now’ campaign has been a success. More and more people want to drill in the OCS. Of course, they are also buying the Republican sales job that this drilling will actually lower prices tomorrow.

According to the DoI’s MMS, of over 30 million acres were available for leasing recently, only 4 million or so were leased. In Alaska, there was a court battle recently over Point Thomson, where Exxon and other companies have held leases for over 30 years and produced zero oil or natural gas. Bush 43 extended the moratorium on the Eastern Gulf area in 2002 to help Jeb get re-elected.

In the GoM, there is at least one new rig that went on line last month which, at peak production, is capable of 250,000 bpd.

Talking points… doesn’t mean they are true.

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July 3rd, 2008 at 1:14 pm
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And a pretty big chunk of the Pacific Rim, what with the Alaskan and Hawaiian archipeligos and our territories in Micronesia.

Though we don’t have as much of the Caribbean as you might think. Just a little bit south of Puerto Rico.

July 3rd, 2008 at 12:15 pm

As a ratifying party to the UN Convention, yes – Cuba can claim a 200-mile exclusive economic zone as its territorial waters. However, when two states have overlapping EEZs, it is up to the states themselves to delineate their maritime border by treaty, which the U.S. and Cuba did in 1977.

Ok, using Guiliani’s logic, that would also mean that Cuba belongs to the United States because Cuba is only 90 miles from Florida.

That theory would include also part of Siberia, Panama, Canada, the North Pole and probably all the islands in the Caribbean Sea. Nice bussiness.

Ok, using Guiliani’s logic, that would also mean that Cuba belongs to the United States because Cuba is only 90 miles from Florida.

Or, is Guiliani saying that Cuba has no claim to the ocean around them because the US has claims to 300 mile limit of ocean from our shores?

Any way you look at it it all comes back to the fact that US oil companies have drilling rights on 80,000 acres of US land. Until such time as that oil is drilled, we need to leave the ocean and endangered areas in this country (like ANWAR) the hell alone.

Exclusive economic zone
An exclusive economic zone extends for 200 nautical miles (370 km) beyond the baselines of the territorial sea, thus it includes the territorial sea and its contiguous zone.[3] A coastal nation has control of all economic resources within its exclusive economic zone, including fishing, mining, oil exploration, and any pollution of those resources. However, it cannot regulate or prohibit passage or loitering above, on, or under the surface of the sea, whether innocent or belligerent, within that portion of its exclusive economic zone beyond its territorial sea. Before 1982, coastal nations arbitrarily extended their territorial waters in an effort to control activities which are now regulated by the exclusive economic zone, such as offshore oil exploration or fishing rights (see Cod War). Indeed, the exclusive economic zone is still popularly, though erroneously, called a coastal nation’s territorial waters.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Territorial_waters

So, basically, and IMHO, if the drilling point is nearer of Cuba than of the USA, they have all the rights to drill. And, in case they’ve not drilled yet, they have even more right to do prospections to know if they wish to drill.

We don’t want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud. Who can argue with that statement? Absolutely true. And absolutely irrelevant, but it worked.

We have no plans on the table to invade Iraq. Well, ok, we put a big piece of cardboard down first so technically, these refined war plans are not “on” the table.

We did not reveal classified documents. Because the Petulant President unclassified them. Maybe after the fact, but we had the declassification pre-dated.

Pat Tillman died in an accidental friendly fire incident. Just going to have to trust us on this one, we burned all the evidence, shut up the men who were with him, and claim Executive Privelege over all the evidence.

The astounding part for me is that there are still 25% of Americans who are ok with this behavior, even support it. Are they so afraid of the world that they need a leader at any cost? I really have no respect for the Bush supporters. None.

The real question is: What do we do about it if China does start drilling in the Gulf, utilizing slant drilling methods?

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We do nothing. Let market forces play themselves out. Isn’t that what you guys are into? If the Chinese want to do their thing and the Cubans ar into it and they get there first. Why interfer with the private enterprise of two sovereign nations?

Simply, they were thinking that the caribbean oil was guaranteed to the USA, no matter the 200 miles limit, being the caribbean nations poor, and incapable of drilling by themselves, but they find now that a joint venture China-Cuba can do two things the politicos find unthinkable now: drill in the territorial waters of these poor countries, and enrich Cuba, because they will keep at least a percentage of the bussiness, and most probably, supplies from China.

Prepare for Bay of Pigs II (or I for Dana).

http://tinyurl.com/4dv6ue

Also, check out the link in the comments section and the link that was from Barrons Online article. Seems like Bush Sr., Clinton, Bush II and Jeb Bush all had a hand in keeping Chevon from drilling in leased tracts only 20 miles off FL coast. Now those tracks were partially bought back by the current Bush mis-Administration – for $115M – and the last remaining ones can not be explored until 2012. Just another way Bush has sold our country and threatened national security.

hussein toasterhead Says:

Of course, we’d have a bit of trouble enforcing this, since we have yet to ratify the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea, but details details…

Then,

jabberjaw Says:
A bit of a clarification, Toasterhead. The United States has signed the treaty, but the Senate has not ratified it.

Thanks for clatifying something that was explicitly stated in HT’s post, JJ.

It should be pointed out, as nanlichi does, that JJ correctly states that Guiliani’s language about the Chinese and Cubans is phrased so as to be arguably correct. This is the same linguistic strategy that allowed Bush to deny accusations that he said Saddam was responsible for 9/11. They’re masters of phrasing that is strictly correct yet highly suggestive of the propaganda they want to catapult.

In this case, it’s leaving the impression that the Chinese are drilling for our oil. That claim has already been made, and with the wingnut base, the anger it generates will obscure any later qualifications, even outright reversals. Giuliani’s carefully crafted booster shot of propaganda, delivered with the enthusiastic support of Glenn Dreck, will hit the vein of righteous indignation that feeds the wingnut base.

Whatever China steals from us we will just buy it back.

jabberjaw Says:

Shayne: First, I’m an Independent, not a Democrat, not a Republican, not an Obama supporter and not a McCain supporter. Second, nobody is talking about “shifting the tilt of the earth.” The discussion is about slant drilling (or directional drilling if you will) which is a commonly used drilling

It was a joke jerkjaw and yes we know, you’re all independents. And we were born yesterday.