John Edwards to debate Karl Rove in Buffalo.
By on Jul 4th, 2008 at 1:30 pm
John Edwards to debate Karl Rove in Buffalo.
The Buffalo News reports that former Vice Presidential candidate John Edwards will debate Karl Rove on Sept. 26 on the campus of the University of Buffalo as part of the school’s Distinguished Speakers Series. In the midst of the U.S. attorney scandal, Edwards called on President Bush to “fire Karl Rove.” When Rove announced he was resigning from the White House, Edwards released a statement that simply read “Goodbye, good riddance.”
UpdatePaul Krugman writes today of "Karl Rove's Third Term."
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Will it be televised? Or a transcript available? This is one I'ld like to hear.
July 4th, 2008 at 1:32 pmI'm all tingly...
July 4th, 2008 at 1:33 pmForget televised, is it open to the public?
July 4th, 2008 at 1:33 pmThat will be worth the price of admission, as they say.
July 4th, 2008 at 1:36 pmI hope John beats down that swine !!
(any perceived disrespect to pigs is not intended)
¶ AIO
July 4th, 2008 at 1:36 pmTanqueray Says:
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Why would the University of Buffalo Distinguished Speakers Series give any time and recognition to this buffoon?
July 4th, 2008 at 1:37 pm
I agree. Karl Rove is ridiculous.
July 4th, 2008 at 1:41 pmWhy would the University of Buffalo Distinguished Speakers Series give any time and recognition to this buffoon?
He was an advisor to Bush, you know. Perhaps his insights would be helpful...
July 4th, 2008 at 1:41 pmJinx, barfly! :D
July 4th, 2008 at 1:44 pmZooey:
No fair! I only use two fingers to type!
July 4th, 2008 at 1:48 pmHey wait I second. I didn't think barfly was allowed to speak till someone said barfly...
July 4th, 2008 at 1:49 pmEvergreen2U wrote: "Will it be televised? Or a transcript available? This is one I’ld like to hear."
I sent an email to the University asking that very question. I'll post again as soon as I have a reply.
July 4th, 2008 at 1:50 pmbarfly Says:
He was an advisor to Bush, you know.
He was an unethical political advisor who was allowed to advise and have great influence on public policy.
Nicholas II made the same mistake.
July 4th, 2008 at 1:55 pmbarfly Says:
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Zooey:
No fair! I only use two fingers to type!
July 4th, 2008 at 1:48 pm
As long as you're using both hands. ;)
July 4th, 2008 at 1:56 pmwow... a seasoned, charismatic trial lawyer verses a mildly clever, utterky morally bankrupt machiavellan geek....frankly, i have a hard time beleiving rove accepted this...
July 4th, 2008 at 2:03 pmIf Rove were alive during the American Revolution, he would have been a red coat. This man places no stock in Truth, Freedom or Honesty. His only moral compass is power.
July 4th, 2008 at 2:04 pmAs long as you’re using both hands. ;)
A little too early for drinkin.' That's what you meant, right? :o
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The news of McCain's sudden success at foreign policy, is strange, considering Rove and his "shop" are now intensely involved in his campaign. Rove might easily have tapped an administration insider, someone like Elliot Abrams, to contact his counterparts in South America, and make a back-channel deal, ala the Iran/Contra years.
July 4th, 2008 at 2:06 pmPut Rove against a real journalist like Bill Moyers or Seymour Hersh. Edwards is a publicity-craving poseur.
July 4th, 2008 at 2:07 pmbarfly Says:
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A little too early for drinkin.’ That’s what you meant, right? :o
July 4th, 2008 at 2:06 pm
What else could it be...? You're not a troll. ;)
July 4th, 2008 at 2:08 pmForget a debate, I want to see a brawl between these two!
July 4th, 2008 at 2:08 pmAs much as I'd like to see Edwards make this fat pig cry weee weee, I hope more that Rove will be charged and incarcerated by then for his crimes of Treason.
July 4th, 2008 at 2:12 pmIf we're talking a Rovian style of debate, prepare for the dude to start, by first smearing Edwards' wife...
July 4th, 2008 at 2:16 pmMaybe McRove will be in an orange suit by September.
He has been called to testify before the HR Judiciary Committee. If he doesn't show, and he is sent to jail, what will FOX News do without his brilliant commentary?
July 4th, 2008 at 2:17 pmKarl Rove disagreeable, discordant, discourteous, discrepant, discriminatory, disdainful, disgusting, dishonest, dishonorable, dismissive, disparaging, disreputable and disturbing. Distinguished he is not.
July 4th, 2008 at 2:20 pmSeems hardly fair to the righties. After all, it's going to be one against one. They're used to a two-to-one advantage, at least, in these "debates".
July 4th, 2008 at 2:33 pmEdwards would make a fine VP
July 4th, 2008 at 2:33 pmI'd rather see them put the gloves and watch Edwards pound the snot out of the fat weasel.
July 4th, 2008 at 2:34 pmWouldn't be preferable for KKKarl to debate Jesse Helms, where-ever he(Jesse) may be?
July 4th, 2008 at 2:36 pmHoly shit on a stick. Happy Fourth of July.
Welcome to that debate, Herr Rove, John Edwards will shred you & your "arguments."
And, thankyajesus, for this debate.
July 4th, 2008 at 2:42 pmNow that is interesting.. Sweet...
July 4th, 2008 at 2:47 pmZooey, barfly
I've never been able to post and eat after driving-thru Burger King, and of course its because it takes 2 hands to handle a Whopper.
Its a known fact that a lot of trolls are hunt and pecker typists when posting.
July 4th, 2008 at 2:51 pmInstead of a debate, Edwards should just grab the nearest metal folding chair and crack Rove over the head with it. Then Edwards would assure himself of numerous medals of all kinds being bestowed upon him and vast applause and donations that would last him for the next 20 years.
July 4th, 2008 at 2:51 pmoctamethyl Says:
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Edwards would make a fine VP
But he would make a better Attorney General
July 4th, 2008 at 2:57 pmWhere can I get a ticket?????
July 4th, 2008 at 3:00 pmI agree. Edwards as Attorney General. Richardson as Secretary of State.
July 4th, 2008 at 3:00 pmSaint Augustine Says:
Zooey, barfly
I’ve never been able to post and eat after driving-thru Burger King, and of course its because it takes 2 hands to handle a Whopper.
Its a known fact that a lot of trolls are hunt and pecker typists when posting.
July 4th, 2008 at 2:51 pm
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They can't help the fact that they have cloven hooves. Take pity.
July 4th, 2008 at 3:04 pm.
... And yet ROVER refuses to fetch subpeonas...
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July 4th, 2008 at 3:13 pmTanqueray Says:
Why would the University of Buffalo Distinguished Speakers Series give any time and recognition to this buffoon?
I agree completely.
Rove is a TRAITOR to the US, and he needs to be in Gitmo getting his azs WATERBOARDED.
Glad to see you admit that that COXUCKER punk TRAITOR Bush and his cronies are WAR CRIMINALS and MURDERERS,,
Happy 4th, and may Bush be in hell before the Devil...
Oh, wait...
Happy 4th
July 4th, 2008 at 3:16 pmActually, Congress should be ready to ARREST him for INHERENT CONTEMPT on the spot, just like that nutjob Larry Sinclair.
Just BEFORE the debate starts, they should march him out in SHACKLES and in ORANGE like Don Siegelman.
SHUT HIM DOWN (a la Bolton and the 2000 election fraud)!!!
July 4th, 2008 at 3:19 pmIts a known fact that a lot of trolls are hunt and pecker typists when posting.
Ah, life would surely be bland with no sexual innuendo.
My favorite bar in Nevada had a sign posted, to direct men-folk drinkers: "Liquor up Front, Poker in the Rear.</strong> "
Happy Fourth, TP'ers!
July 4th, 2008 at 3:34 pmZooey Says:
Tanqueray Says:
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Why would the University of Buffalo Distinguished Speakers Series give any time and recognition to this buffoon?
July 4th, 2008 at 1:37 pm
I agree. Karl Rove is ridiculous.
oh tanq,
you walked right
into that one,
didn't you?
*
burn.
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July 4th, 2008 at 3:54 pmThis is all well and good and and anytime is a good time to get "all tingly" but for what we know they may be debating the merits of Saltines vs Ritz crackers.
I wouldn't be too hopeful that any earth shattering information will come from this performance.
July 4th, 2008 at 4:08 pmkarl's last debate
didn't go so well.
he go pwnd by
alan colmes.
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enjoy.
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July 4th, 2008 at 4:24 pmWhy is John Edwards lowering himself to this???
July 4th, 2008 at 4:31 pm#7 Thank you Zooey and #8 Thank you Barfly
July 4th, 2008 at 5:02 pmsouthrnbelle
This is "Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers, the director's recut", where we get to see Aragorn (Edwards) rip Wormtongue (Rove) a new one and feed him a can of oil, in an alternate ending.
July 4th, 2008 at 5:11 pmRove -- ROVE -- threatens to step up, stand up, & man up.
Forgive my cynicism, but I'll believe it when I see it.
July 4th, 2008 at 5:20 pmI say Las Vegas is betting 50:01 odds that bushy evokes executive privilege before Rovie spews his lies... O bye the way is this off the record and not subject to being under oath... Is it just me or, where do The Bushies get a pass from being under oath??? John Conyers we are watching!!!
July 4th, 2008 at 7:07 pmRove will be escorted to the ring by his Manager "The Lovely Ms. Condoleeza" and have his tag team partner Alberto "Gonzo" Gonzales waiting for Edwards at ringside. As soon as Edwards is about to put him out with his signature move "The Eternal Plame" Gonzo will smack Edwards on the noggin with a metal chair when the "guest referee" John Roberts isn't looking, and Rove will fall on him for the unjust win...unfortunately, I've seen this all before....Cuz Thomthum said so!
July 4th, 2008 at 7:34 pmIt would sort of be like putting Rove on trial in public. With Edwards' legal background he should make minced meat out of him.
July 4th, 2008 at 7:49 pmZooey:
No fair! I only use two fingers to type!
July 4th, 2008 at 1:48 pm
As long as you’re using both hands. ;)
In 2001 I learned to type with both hands. My sex life has suffered since :)~
July 4th, 2008 at 7:56 pmEdwards will carve that lying pig into dogfood. Rove only knows lies and crime, debating a premier lawyer will be a humiliating and deserved defeat.
July 4th, 2008 at 8:42 pmRove will never show. He prefers to operate in the shadows and fringes of civilized society. Maybe Edwards will manage to ask Rove what ever happened to his "permanent Republican majority."
July 5th, 2008 at 12:02 amI want Edwards in there somewhere. VP if it was up to me. And we gotta have Biden for something. But, I dream of Colin Powell in the cabinet!
July 5th, 2008 at 12:25 amForgot to say, Screw Karl Rove. Go get him John. Show him up in front of America and the world for the dumb little twisted weasel he is.
July 5th, 2008 at 12:27 amEdwards made his fortune chewing up guys like Rove in court. Karl still thinks he has THE MATH.
July 5th, 2008 at 1:09 amToo bad it won't be televised. Maybe we'll see it on YouTube.
Rove is out of his element. This should be fun.
July 5th, 2008 at 2:15 amDoc Rock Says:
I’d rather see them put the gloves and watch Edwards pound the snot out of the fat weasel.
I volunteer to stand in for Edwards for the "pounding the snot out of Tubby" portion of the program :)~
July 5th, 2008 at 10:53 amYippee!! clean the weasel's clock John. Can we throw peanuts at the villain---or rocks?
July 5th, 2008 at 12:41 pmI am outraged that the University of Buffalo considers Karl Rove a "Distinguished Speaker", but as someone needs to take Rove down more than several pegs, John Edwards seems just the one to do it. I hope Edwards doesn't pull any punches!
July 5th, 2008 at 12:53 pmSo, apparently, aside from being a traitor, a liar, a fraud, a waste of skin, and an evil prick, Karl Rove is laughably stupid as well. Edwards will skewer that little piggy like a kabob.
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Chocolate Jesus Says:
wow… a seasoned, charismatic trial lawyer verses a mildly clever, utterky morally bankrupt machiavellan geek….frankly, i have a hard time beleiving rove accepted this…"
sorry chocolate jesus but neither you nor any of the 61 commenters i've read posted so far can remember as far back as 2004 when the great trial lawyer, edwards, this charismatic fighter for right, this persuader of juries, this bane of corporations, debated another "utterly morally bankrupt machiavellian" named cheney, when both were running for vice president. and do you know what. edwards didn't show me shit! nor did he impress anyone else. edwards sure didn't win the debate. at best, he got a draw. i hope he does better this time. but i wouldn't bet the rent on it. and neither should any of you, if past performance is any indication of future effectiveness.
July 5th, 2008 at 2:10 pmWAY TO GO JOHN!
I HOPE YOU KNOCK HIM OFF OF HIS SELF MADE PEDESTAL!
JUST CHEW HIM UP AND SPIT HIM OUT!
July 5th, 2008 at 2:14 pmRove was a driven, successful debater as a tad. As a highly positioned right wing republican strategist, he has shown he is without shame. Disagreeable facts are meant to be shaded, twisted or ignored in his world. Watch out Edwards. I think this guy would even demolish Cheney in a one on one.
July 5th, 2008 at 2:17 pmGodzilla Meets Bambi --- yikes!
July 5th, 2008 at 2:26 pmEdwards and Rove debating? I hope Rove gets punked again. Alan Coombs already softened him up for this debate and I bet Turdblossom didnt see it coming.
July 5th, 2008 at 2:28 pmPlease! Let thiis be televised! C-SPAN/YouTube anything!!!!!
Oh, and bring a box for Rove, he's gonna need it.
July 5th, 2008 at 2:32 pmWho knew that a turd blossomed in the fall?
July 5th, 2008 at 3:03 pmI hope the "attack dog" John Edwards shows up for this event-- rather than the John Edward who ran for V.P.
July 5th, 2008 at 3:41 pmThis event should be TELEVISED. Period.
July 5th, 2008 at 3:43 pmThose who dismiss Karl Rove as a "buffoon" or other negative epithet should remember that those were the kinds of labels applied Hitler in the early 1930s.
Never underestimate the winning capacities of a fascist.
July 5th, 2008 at 4:42 pmI don't believe that Rove will follow through. Something will "come up" so that he won't be able to make it. (Or maybe he'll invoke executive privilege.)
I don't think Rove is any kind of a buffoon. I think he's an extremely dangerous man. But as good as he is within his own arena, there's no way that his smarmy demeanor can stand up to how Edwards presents himself. And he's smart enough to know it.
I can see him committing to this by wanting to keep his name out there. But there's no way I see him getting up on stage with Edwards.
July 5th, 2008 at 5:00 pmthomthum Says:
Rove will be escorted to the ring by his Manager “The Lovely Ms. Condoleeza” and have his tag team partner Alberto “Gonzo” Gonzales waiting for Edwards at ringside. As soon as Edwards is about to put him out with his signature move “The Eternal Plame” Gonzo will smack Edwards on the noggin with a metal chair when the “guest referee” John Roberts isn’t looking, and Rove will fall on him for the unjust win…unfortunately, I’ve seen this all before….Cuz Thomthum said so!
July 4th, 2008 at 7:34 pm
Then as Rove and Co. think they get the dirty win, the Player's Club of Barack and Michelle Obama hit the ring and uses a standing American flag pole as a weapon against Gonzales and Roberts, while Michelle has Condie on the ground and reads her "Uncle Tom's Cabin" as she sits on top of her and fist pounds her with her left fist to Condie's face. Then Rove is in the corner and Da Prez's music hits...as he's about to come down with Tha Service to level the Pardon on Obama to save Rove. Then the Ex-Patriots come out of nowhere, consisting of Bill Clinton, Ted Kennedy, Al Gore...and the shocker...George Bush Sr. We get the preview of father v. son before we get to see the fight we all want to see in Sr. v. Jr. in the Supreme Court chambers, the Sunday before Super Tuesday on Pay-Per-View in a leather belt & large buckle match. As the focus goes back to Rove, Obama signals to the roof and Valerie Plame descends from the rafters above and does the De-Classification on Rove in the man region several times as he screams for mercy. Then Obama unrolls the flag with all the blood from the action and says it'll be auctioned off online in a new bi-partisan effort for testicular fracturing injuries for the uninsured.
July 5th, 2008 at 6:07 pmJohn Edwards didn't do so well against Dick Cheney. The reason was because he was not equipped to respond to blatant lies. Nobody lies more blatantly than Karl Rove. Unless he is prepared with specific arguments, convincing and many, to illustrate these lies and completely humiliate Rove then this will be a waste of time.
July 5th, 2008 at 9:14 pm#63 samg Says:
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Factor in the fact that KKKarl Rove is a college dropout who has made his living lying and committing dirty tricks for the lame brain wingers for his entire career and I would give John Edwards his chances. The debate you give credit to Dick Cheney was conducted by the MSM which has proven to not really be liberal after all. I would place my money on John. If KKKarl is so smart and honorable, he should go under oath and set the record straight instead of hiding behind Dubya's false power of executive privilege. KKKarl is scum like the winger party.
July 5th, 2008 at 10:32 pmI hope Mr. Edwards has a chance to TEACH Karl Rove about honesty, patriotism, kindness, and respect for other human beings. Rove has given a lot of unsolicited advice that has proven to be destructive. Actually, I think he has worn out his welcome with the Republicans, since he is destined to lose some of his POWER. One day his so-called "Executive Privileges" will END.
July 5th, 2008 at 10:34 pmThis man, Karl Rove, has LOST all respect from most honest people in the United States. John Edwards is the WINNER before this so-called debate begins. What are they debating anyway ... something Rove has been dreaming about since he lost most of his POWER?
July 5th, 2008 at 10:49 pmI wonder if it will be televised on FOX. That should help their ratings, although that means I will HAVE to WATCH.
July 5th, 2008 at 10:55 pmJohn, give him a left, then a right, then a kick in the pants. Bash him over the head with a chair. Kick him in the groin and them when he bends forward, give him the final punch in his fat stupid mug. Make him pay for all the lies, smears, wickedness, and evil he put John Kerry and Al Gore through.
July 5th, 2008 at 11:59 pmIs Karl Rove a rat that leaves a sinking ship? No, he is the rat that sunk the ship and then leaves.
July 6th, 2008 at 11:22 amUB students can get free tickets at a certain point in the school year before the event. http://www.specialevents.buffalo.edu/distinguishedspeakers.php has generally public ticket information.
Although Rove is ridiculous it should be amusing. A few years ago Ann Coulter and Janet Reno debated and it was always fun to hear the 25 students from the College Republicans cheer at her lack of substance only to be then jeered at by the other 4,000 people in attendance.
July 8th, 2008 at 6:19 pmThe linthead wants to debate Rove? Are you kidding? Cheney made an absolute fool of the guy in the 2004 Vice Presidential debate. At one point, Brit Hume had to stop the debate to explain to Edwards what the Defense of Marriage Act said. Edwards thought it was pro gay marriage! Rove will eat him alive. Who is the idiot going to "debate" next, George Will?
July 29th, 2008 at 12:33 pmI've just been reading some of the other posts. You people must all be part of the Edwards family (the legitimate part, no doubt). I'd stand a better chance of beating Tiger Woods in a round of golf than Edwards will stand debating Rove. Usually, someone as dumb as Edwards will make such outlandish claims that an intelligent person doesn't know how to refute them because he's never heard anything like them before. However, Rove doesn't just have about a 50 point higher IQ than Edwards, he has an incredible command of the facts. Bush didn't win 2 terms just because Gore and Kerry are stupid. Edwards will look like as much of a fool as he would have if he had debated William F. Buckley. He'll look worse than he did last week hiding out in the men's room to avoid the National Enquirer reporters.
July 29th, 2008 at 12:45 pmDear "Kasinca":
No, the Vice Presidential debate wasn't hosted by "MSM", whatever that's supposed to be. Brit Hume works for FOX. As for your wanting to bet on Edwards, I think you'll find all the takers you could ever want on that one.
July 29th, 2008 at 12:50 pm