If you got mugged and the mugger took everything you had except the pants you were wearing—and he then said to you “be grateful I left you the pants”—would you be grateful to him or mad at him?

July 7th, 2008 at 2:26 pm
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July 4th isn’t a day to be grateful to the president. The U.S. is much more than the current president. Is that what libs have against the celebrations? The fact that Bush is president?

UL,
I was saying that other countries’ hatred for us is part of their patriotism—-not that they are hating us for our patriotism. Understand? It’s what happens when everyone thinks they are the greatest. It leads to wars. 1937 Germany was very patriotic.

July 7th, 2008 at 12:29 pm
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And you really think that’s a valid argument against having a day in which we show appreciation for our freedom? I see a world of difference in taking a day to celebrate what we have and attacking another country because we think we are better than they are. The majority on this site post daily about freedoms we’ve supposedly lost under Bush, so I assume freedom is important to them. Yet most of them can’t bring themselves to say one good thing about the freedoms they do have.

I don’t spend the day saying,

Thou doth project too much.

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DieNowForPeace Says:
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The shit-stained nose does go nicely with the yellow piss-stain on the back of your head, resulting from too much boot-licking of those with much disdain for your pandering.

July 7th, 2008 at 11:19 am Recommend (0) | Report Abuse

I’ve always admired your ability to turn a well worn phrase, and someday I’m sure you’ll manage to use that first one appropriately. And your command of filth is almost without equal on this site… almost. You keep trying, though, and you’ll be the best in no time. You have a great day, now, bud.;)

Thou doth project too much.

UL thinks the shit stain on his nose is a trophy of sorts.

July 7th, 2008 at 8:28 am
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Hey bud, how are you this fine morning? ;)

Do you pick one day out of the year to remember your mother, one day to remember your father, one day out of 365 to be thankful and one to give gifts? I’m really opposed to that kind of Hallmark thinking.

July 7th, 2008 at 2:14 am
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I’m thankful every day for all that I have, including my parents. On mother’s day, I express my appreciation for my mother. I don’t spend the day saying, “So what if you were a good mother, sometimes you disciplined the wrong kid for doing something wrong, and sometimes we didn’t have as much money to do things as the kids down the street, and sometimes you made us eat food we didn’t like, and you couldn’t afford to pay for our college so we had to work hard to do it ourselves, etc.”

Patriotism is a leading factor in every other country hating the US. Freud said “Patriotism is the narcissism of petty differences”. Did Jesus say that the USA was the greatest country in the world? I don’t think so. The more patriotic the Iraqis and Afghans get, the more they will want to fire on our occupying army.

What makes the US a great country is dwindling all the time. If I was living in 1937 Germany, I wouldn’t be talking about what a great country it was. I would be saying it was going to hell in a handbasket! A pollyanna optimist could list many good things about 1937 Germany—but remember, this is a progressive political thread, not a Norman Vincent Peale or Dr. Phil philosophy thread.

July 7th, 2008 at 2:11 am
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So, we shouldn’t have a day on which we celebrate our freedom until our country is perfect and we can’t do it then either because someone else may not like us for it? Wow, now I see why libs refuse to acknowledge any good in the U.S.

What makes the US a great country is dwindling all the time. If I was living in 1937 Germany, I wouldn’t be talking about what a great country it was. I would be saying it was going to hell in a handbasket! A pollyanna optimist could list many good things about 1937 Germany—but remember, this is a progressive political thread, not a Norman Vincent Peale or Dr. Phil philosophy thread.

I don’t trash our country. I trash all the members of the Bush administration and many in the House, Senate, and Supreme court because they are destroying our country. There is a huge difference. As evidence I mentioned the millions of conservatives who complained about everything under the sun during the Carter and Clinton administrations. Clinton’s was the greatest economic expansion in the history of our country. Bush II is taking us over a cliff.

I’m not exactly alone. Eighty per cent thinks the country is now on the wrong track. Before GWB, about 65% thought it was on the right track.

July 7th, 2008 at 1:06 am
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Absolutely, we have serious problems. But read through this thread and the one on fireworks displays and see how many libs took the opportunity on July 4th to say “We have a great country that has problems.” Compare that to those who can’t bring themselves to say anything good about our country and those who disdain patriotism. Barack Obama celebrated July 4th and not just because it’s his daughter’s birthday. It really is ok for libs to acknowledge that there is good in the U.S. Just pointing out that it’s ok to express appreciation for what one has even though it isn’t perfect. One just appears ungrateful otherwise. ;)

I’m not exactly alone. Eighty per cent thinks the country is now on the wrong track. Before GWB, about 65% thought it was on the right track.

upright left,
I never heard so many unwarranted complaints about Bush as I did about Carter, Clinton, their wives and their young daughters. That was pure unrestrained hated from conservatives—not patriotism.

July 7th, 2008 at 12:05 am
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Who said anything about that being patriotism. My comment was in reference to the thread topic and how TP posted a few comments and gave a totally false impression of the article. The article noted that the Optimist Club members acknowledge the problems that we have, but also realize that we’ve had such problems in the past and come through it ok and will again. They don’t just sit around trashing our country in the meantime. It’s possible to appreciate our country and how good we have it even though we have some serious problems. Like the car that doesn’t automatically become a piece of junk just because it needs a repair. ;)

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And those libs will complain about what a worthless pile of junk the car is because it has devloped a problem.

No, Fix the problem.

July 6th, 2008 at 7:42 pm
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Yeah, they fix the problem as they complain about what a worthless pile of junk the car is because it has developed a problem. Better to acknowledge that the car doesn’t cease to be valuable just because it isn’t perfect and needs repairs. ;)

http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1523

Carter inherited deficit from Ford of -4.2% of GDP
Carter improved it to -1.6% of GDP
Reagan inherited -2.6% defict from Carter and took it to -6.0%

Clinton inherited -4.7% deficit from GHWB and turned it into a SURPLUS of +2.4% of GDP.

W took the +2.4% inheritance and made it a -3.6% deficit. W always ruined his inheritances! W had a Republican White House, Senate, House, and Supreme Court—so don’t try to pin it on liberals. He also allowed the 9/11 attack and lost a major metropolitan area.