American and Iraqi officials are no longer optimistic that a long-term security agreement will soon be reached because “negotiations are complicated by political currents in both countries.” AFP reports that “large crowds of Shiites” gathered yesterday to denounce the security pact that the Iraqi government is debating:
“No, no to colonization! Out, out you occupier!” the crowd shouted in the centre of Sadr City where fierce battles raged in March and April between Shiite militants and US forces in which hundreds of people were killed. [...]
In the central town of Kufa, protesters chanted anti-US and anti-Israel slogans. “No to America! No to Israel! We reject signing the agreement with the occupation,” shouted devotees.
In the city of Karbala, an aide of revered Shiite cleric Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani urged Baghdad to refrain from signing a deal that would compromise national interests.
“If the government signs the deal it has to preserve the interests of the people, not compromise sovereignty and not permit Iraq to be used as a base for attacks on neighboring countries,” said Sheikh Abdul al-Mahdi al-Karbalae.
Leave on our own sooner or get pushed out later. The decider is just trying to hang in there long enough for someone else to be president.
July 5th, 2008 at 12:20 pmSure puts a kink in the Petraeus plan, it appears.
July 5th, 2008 at 12:27 pmposter Says:
Someone flag the little flaggot.
July 5th, 2008 at 12:29 pmAnd that’s “are interesting,” you poor inbred.
July 5th, 2008 at 12:31 pmgot him barfly… :)
The trolls are like cockroachs, very hard to exterminate.
July 5th, 2008 at 12:32 pmThanks, FR.
July 5th, 2008 at 12:33 pmIf I recall, yesterday Kindasleezy Rice was crowing how proud she was to have invaded Iraq, “freeing” all those Iraqis from tyranny. SURPRISE! Kindasleezy, according to the Iraqi’s, it’s US who are supressing them. Kudos, another fine job performed by the bush administration.
July 5th, 2008 at 12:35 pmThat guy in back looks like Jeffylube…
July 5th, 2008 at 12:36 pm“If the government signs the deal it has to preserve the interests of the people, not compromise sovereignty and not permit Iraq to be used as a base for attacks on neighboring countries,” said Sheikh Abdul al-Mahdi al-Karbalae.
For this very reason is why I don’t blame the Shiites for not wanting us there. I wouldn’t trust the government to renege on the deal and do whatever they want once all the bases are set up.
July 5th, 2008 at 12:37 pmThe picture shows shows RapeTards Larry Craig and George W. Bush the faggot at the RNC Convention,
Whoa, Arn. Sounds like some repressed gay anger there. Get a sudden surprise from a one-night-stand, or something?
July 5th, 2008 at 12:39 pm#16 satirev Says:
Freedom Rebel: Why would the Iraqis believe this government of ours when they know that we’ve been lied to – and repeatedly – by this cadre of liars? It’s a foregone conclusion that this administration of smoke & mirrors cannot be trusted on anything they say. They’re all liars.
I agree completely. :) Also, if they do reach an agreement; their government is betraying their own people. They think the violence is bad now it is only going to get 10 times worse.
July 5th, 2008 at 12:42 pmbarfly Says:
“Whoa, Arn. Sounds like some repressed gay anger there. Get a sudden surprise from a one-night-stand, or something?”
Nah, he’s possessed by the (mean) spirit of angry trnnie annie coulter.
July 5th, 2008 at 12:43 pm“If the government signs the deal it has to preserve the interests of the people, not compromise sovereignty and not permit Iraq to be used as a base for attacks on neighboring countries,” said Sheikh Abdul al-Mahdi al-Karbalae.
A pretty clear shot at the “invade Iran” hyperventilationists in the Bush administration.
July 5th, 2008 at 12:46 pmMaybe to some in the US, this invasion/massacre/occupation we did can be fabricated into fairytale garbage that this is fine, good and just, but apparently the Iraqi people are too intelligent for the BS.
July 5th, 2008 at 12:53 pmIt’s just so hard to accept that we’re not the boss of the world anymore, just a big dumb bully in the schoolyard. Waaaa
July 5th, 2008 at 12:58 pmHow arrogant is it we have the nerve to massacre and ruin a population of people, then occupy and take for granite these people will go along? What are some in this country thinking… that the Iraqi people are not capable of reason…how utterly degrading to the intelligence of Iraq citizens.
July 5th, 2008 at 1:07 pmNaionalize OUR oil reserves NOW!
July 5th, 2008 at 1:12 pm“If the government signs the deal it has to preserve the interests of the people, not compromise sovereignty and not permit Iraq to be used as a base for attacks on neighboring countries,”
whoddu thought cave dwellers were so smart?
dammitall, who do they think they are?
July 5th, 2008 at 1:18 pm#23 and all…..What have most of our own population been thinking while our government has wiped out over 1 million innocent men, women and children.? What have our own people been thinking while this gov. has arrested and removed many of our own people, silenced whistle blower’s and given a free reighn by our own political party to the point it is now one big gang of lier’s and thieve’s with the exception of a tiny few..What will it take for every one to see the truth instead of campaign lie’s.? ….Blessings
July 5th, 2008 at 1:19 pm“We’ll leave when the Iraqis lask us to leave.” ~Bush
He just didn’t mention that he meant we’ll leave after every single Iraqi personally asks us to leave — or dies trying.
July 5th, 2008 at 1:33 pmThe truth will have to smack most people in the face before it becomes both apparent and important. Where are all the supposed Christians of the nation, loving the enemy, making sure no one is hungry, abused or poor, rejecting material wealth, and rejecting violence? Just wondering.
July 5th, 2008 at 1:39 pm# 26 Witch1
Greed has overcome reason and values. This has been made OK by the MSM machine invested in defense. How will all this go down in the history books, if truthfully done?
July 5th, 2008 at 1:59 pm#29 Just like killing most of the Native American people and distroying other countries for their resourses, installing dictator’s around the world and then distroying the poor and middle class at home….Out country is now more than ever the most war like and distructive of the world..There can be no good spin on this terrible legacy that we allowed for generation’s to get to this point…..The shame is on us all for not removing this terrible administration….Blessings
July 5th, 2008 at 2:22 pmGreed has overcome reason and values. This has been made OK by the MSM machine invested in defense. How will all this go down in the history books, if truthfully done?
The fear generated by one series of terrorist attacks, allowed conservatives to shift from arguing the meaning of what the framers intended the Constitution to be, to negating it completely. For, in the powers of the initary executive, they found just the tool to destroy those parts they have hated for centuries.
July 5th, 2008 at 2:29 pm#31…Perfect….Blessings
July 5th, 2008 at 2:34 pmIt was bad enough that we invaded without understanding the whole Shia Sunni thing. And that we didn’t know which groups were connected to whom.
But can anyone explain to me why, in their wildest dreams, the good ol US of A hasn’t figured out that you have to deal with both groups ? (not to mention Kurds. Not to mention that both the Shia and Sunni are themselves, not homogeneous)
July 5th, 2008 at 3:53 pm#33 Our past administration’s didn’t give a shit which tribe’s of Native American’s they killed either..The sole purpose was to eliminate and take all the land’s and resourses for the great white man to use up and distroy….Little has changed except geography, march all over the world and kill innocent people..Before it was the Soux, Black feet and other’s now it’s the Sunni or Kurd’s, what ever…Genocide by the most powerful tribe (white) against the Iraq people or our own that were left to die in N.O…..Putting war profeteer’s in office instead of Peace activest’s will alway’s give us what we have alway’s got…..:Lot’s of grave’s and misery for the underling’s and huge profit’s for the already rich…..Blessings and Peace.
July 5th, 2008 at 4:25 pm“In the central town of Kufa, protesters chanted anti-US and anti-Israel slogans. “No to America! No to Israel! We reject signing the agreement with the occupation,” shouted devotees.”
Anti US and anti Israel? Are they really? Are the not really just against the foreign policy of these two countries?
July 5th, 2008 at 5:32 pmchimpy plan to stay in Iraq is lopsided, rouge like and completely without consideration.
How dare chimpy feel good about the invasion and occupation. Who does the chimpy’s admin think they are, Israel?
July 5th, 2008 at 10:14 pm“Do unto others…..etc” seems to be a pretty sensible policy.
No good can ever come from doing things to other people that you would never tolerate being done to yourself.
If the Iraqi’s were occupying the U.S. and building permanent bases, etc, etc.
July 6th, 2008 at 9:25 amWhat would Americans be doing?
34 Witch1 – Quite Agreed!
July 6th, 2008 at 6:24 pmThis administration will try to keep troops in Irap forever to protect the intrests of the oil companies.
July 8th, 2008 at 6:11 am