Fiorina touts insurance plans that cover birth control, but forgets McCain opposes them.
Fiorina touts insurance plans that cover birth control, but forgets McCain opposes them.
During a breakfast with reporters yesterday hosted by the Christian Science Monitor, top McCain adviser Carly Fiorina talked up Sen. John McCain’s (R-AZ) preferred approach to health care by saying that “there are many health insurance plans that will cover Viagra but won’t cover birth-control medication“:
Carly Fiorina, the former Hewlett-Packard chief who is now the Republican National Committee’s “Victory Chairman,” was discussing consumer-driven health insurance at a breakfast with reporters when she proposed “a real, live example which I’ve been hearing a lot about from women: There are many health insurance plans that will cover Viagra but won’t cover birth-control medication. Those women would like a choice.” For effect, the woman frequently mentioned as a possible McCain running mate repeated: “Those women would like a choice.”
But Fiorina neglects to mention that in 2003 McCain voted against an amendment that would have required insurance coverage of prescription birth control.
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Which means tomorrow we will hear that Fiorina was misquoted by the press.
July 8th, 2008 at 11:23 amPrincess Fiorina didn’t check with King before opening mouth.
Where the HELL was birth control when McStupid was born?
July 8th, 2008 at 11:31 amBut Fiorina neglects to mention that in 2003 McCain voted against an amendment that would have required insurance coverage of prescription birth control.
That’s what happens with Republicans, pretending to represent the American people when all you really represent are corporate interests. Like liars in general, it’s hard to keep your stories straight.
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July 8th, 2008 at 11:31 amSo either she forgot McCain’s record,she doesn’t know his position (neither of which would say much for her professionalism) or she’s bullshitting to try and garner some female votes.
I note she isn’t talking about a policy, she’s saying “women would like a choice”–it doesn’t mean McCain has any intention of giving them a choice.
July 8th, 2008 at 11:32 amhard
to get on the same
page, isn’t it?
;)
July 8th, 2008 at 11:34 amWith this level of message incompetence, it’s easy to see why McCain’s first term will really be Bush’s 3rd.
Being in McCain’s brain trust must be like riding a roller-coaster, backward.
July 8th, 2008 at 11:34 amGive him a minute…
July 8th, 2008 at 11:34 amhe’ll change his mind again.
Later, at the debriefing, Senator McCain approached Fiorina and was quoted as saying…
July 8th, 2008 at 11:35 am“At least I don’t plaster on the makeup like a trollop, you c*nt.”
jabberjaw Says:
Fiona was talking about “consumer driven health insurance.” McCain voted against a government mandate, which by definitiion is not “consumer driven.” McCain is not my candidate, but let’s be fair here.
Like consumers never contact their congresspeople for help, with legislation?
C’mon Jabber, you can do better than that, surely.
July 8th, 2008 at 11:37 amjibberjab Says:
Fiona was talking about “consumer driven health insurance.” McCain voted against a government mandate, which by definitiion is not “consumer driven.”
I’m pretty certain that the characters of “Shrek” stay out of US policies.
July 8th, 2008 at 11:37 amJust sayin’…
Don’t kid yourselves, this is not about giving women a choice. This is about them figuring out that the pharmaceuticals can make lots more money if their birth control products are covered- and McCain can get a big fat contribution if he supports them.
July 8th, 2008 at 11:39 amDon’t bet on it, Doc!
July 8th, 2008 at 11:40 amJohn McCain’s Gambling Problem
July 8th, 2008 at 11:40 amI don’t think that will get much traction Dr. Matt.
July 8th, 2008 at 11:42 amconniptionfit Says:
Don’t kid yourselves, this is not about giving women a choice. This is about them figuring out that the pharmaceuticals can make lots more money if their birth control products are covered- and McCain can get a big fat contribution if he supports them.
A contribution he would pay for, with the religious right. While he might get contributions from Big Pharma, he’d lose millions of Religious Right votes in the bargain.
July 8th, 2008 at 11:43 amOf course not, it doesn’t deal with Obama in a negative way.
July 8th, 2008 at 11:44 amDr. Hussein Matt Says:
Of course not, it doesn’t deal with Obama in a negative way.
Just wait, the comparisons to “Iron Ass Nixon,” and his days as a successful poker player, will shortly be forthcoming - especially with the recent release of Nixonland, by Rick Perlman.
July 8th, 2008 at 11:48 amJ-J : “consumer driven health insurance.”
What?
July 8th, 2008 at 11:53 amZimzone Says:
Princess Fiorina didn’t check with King before opening mouth.
Maybe she did. We already know that McCain doesn’t remember what he voted for or against back in 2003. Heck, he wasn’t even 70 years old back then.
July 8th, 2008 at 11:53 amFiorina neglects to mention that in 2003 McCain voted against an amendment that would have required insurance coverage of prescription birth control.
So? Grampy McSame can’t be expected to remember what the hell he voted for in 2003, can he???? And get off his lawn!!!
July 8th, 2008 at 12:03 pm“Consumer driven health insurace” is a buzzword generally used to describe high deductible policies on the theory that if you have to pay the first two to five grand you will shop around for the best price (worked real well when my wife broke her foot last year — she would be my widow now if I had insisted on shopping for a specialist to set the fracture). The whole concept mainly works out giving rich people another tax break because it allows socking more money tax deferred into a health savings account. Does squat for the currently uninsured who can’t afford the premium and can’t use the tax break.
Bigger issue and I think Milbanks’ point is how do you think having ol’ Carly on the ticket talking about womens’ choice would go over with the base? Aside from pushing Bob Barr’s vote totals into double digits that is?
July 8th, 2008 at 12:04 pmjibberjabber, your point is somewhat murky. Are you saying that something other than “consumer-driven health care” was what drove health insurers to cover Viagra but not birth control?
July 8th, 2008 at 12:06 pmThose women would like a choice, but as everyone knows…in Republican world… women are second class citizens and as such cannot get choice as an option.
July 8th, 2008 at 12:07 pm“Consumer driven health insurance” is an oxymoron anyway.
Consumers drive *nothing* in the health insurance industry.
July 8th, 2008 at 12:07 pmThere are many women who take prescription birth control to cub PMS, acne, heavy periods, and/or menstrual pain - ye the religious right refuuses to see our need for this medication as valid simply because they despite the female reproductive system.
But, a pill for a man to have a hummer is just fine. No wonder women in this country still feel like second class citizens. We are.
July 8th, 2008 at 12:07 pmIgnore the first post.
There are many women who take prescription birth control to curb PMS, acne, heavy periods, and/or menstrual pain - yet the religious right refuses to see our need for this medication as valid simply because they despise the female reproductive system.
But, a pill for a man to have a hummer is just fine. No wonder women in this country still feel like second class citizens. We are.
July 8th, 2008 at 12:08 pmjabberjaw Says: Once something mandated by the government, the consumer no longer has a choice.
Actually - once something mandated by Corprate America, the consumer no longer has a choice.
Our government has been taken over by Corporate American and is no longer of, by and for the people. Perhaps that’s why you dislike the government so much. It’s owned and run by the greedy corporations.
July 8th, 2008 at 12:11 pmunbelievable:
For several years in Florida the State paid for Viagra for male inmates - even ones convicted of sex crimes.
The legislature put a stop to it when the practice was made public and the public cried foul. Still, it tells you a lot about how men in positions of power view Viagra. As a right and a necessity.
July 8th, 2008 at 12:12 pmThe Right’s insane repudiation of government - and their steadfast belief in Corporate America - would be pathetic if they weren’t dragging us all down with them.
July 8th, 2008 at 12:14 pmFrosty Cupcake Says: For several years in Florida the State paid for Viagra for male inmates - even ones convicted of sex crimes. The legislature put a stop to it when the practice was made public and the public cried foul. Still, it tells you a lot about how men in positions of power view Viagra. As a right and a necessity.
That’s, well, unbelievable!
We need to get those people out of power and start electing more women to balance out all the testosterone. There are countless primate studies that how that in time sof stress and over-population (as we currently have), that it’s always women who diffuse hostilities and war…
July 8th, 2008 at 12:20 pmJebus, these people are just flarking STOOPID.
July 8th, 2008 at 12:20 pmJ-J, Frosty and unbelievable expanded on my one word comment perfectly.
“consumer-driven health insurance” describes something that doesn’t exist, but assuming it could be brought into being, how would it work exactly? The closest thing I can think of is–oh yes, a taxpayer funded universal national health insurance system based not on ‘consumption’ however, but on need.
July 8th, 2008 at 12:21 pm.
jabberjaw Says:
Once something mandated by the government, the consumer no longer has a choice.
Typical. The Republican idea of “choice” is to give insurance companies the choice to deny coverage to women who want the choice of whether or not to become pregnant.
July 8th, 2008 at 12:33 pmjabberjaw Says:
Fiorina was talking about “consumer driven health insurance.” McCain voted against a government mandate, which by definitiion is not “consumer driven.” Once something mandated by the government, the consumer no longer has a choice.
First, the only times these companies listen to “consumers” wishes, is either through the threat of litigation, or legislation. Second, litigation only addresses past mistakes, mostly in an uneven manner, and usually requires legislation to clarify the issue. Third, to get “choice,” for consumers often requires legislation, to reign in the egregious, monopolistic practices of companies, left to their own devices. The California energy crisis is a prime example.
July 8th, 2008 at 12:49 pmOops. Make that “rein in.”
July 8th, 2008 at 12:51 pmI didn’t knew that Fiorina was in a top position in the RNC, very good news for the democrats !! This is a woman who has an admirable capacity to climb herself to the top of power and to mess up big time !!
July 8th, 2008 at 1:22 pmMs. Fiorina, should look up McCain’s past statements regarding birth control. He was for it. Then he was against it. Then he was for a woman’s right to choose. And last year it was no abortion for any reason. Not rape, not incest not the mothers health. And now he does not want birth control covered by health insurance. Evidently that doesn’t mean Viagra which is covered by most insurance companies. Can you say Sexism?
I was not interested in Ms.Fiorina speaking about anything. This former Hewlett Packard executive who was very nearly run out of her job for being incompetent. She nearly drove it into the ground. It figures she would speak for McCain.
July 8th, 2008 at 3:46 pmOh Carley . . . only in your mind would your warped history of failure be thought of as “Cabinet Material” . . . but with the progress made by the Republicans and the examples Bush has set you may have missed your chance . . . don’t think an Obama Administration has anything other than a 6×8 cell in mind for your “style” of management . . .
July 8th, 2008 at 6:15 pmThis is just one more example of the incompetence McDepends is surrounded by and would be a view as to what his staff would be like if he actually was able to steal the November election.
July 8th, 2008 at 6:17 pm