New Jersey GOP takes down ‘Obama loves America like O.J. loved Nicole’ banner from website.
By on Jul 9th, 2008 at 12:09 pm
New Jersey GOP takes down ‘Obama loves America like O.J. loved Nicole’ banner from website.
After local Democrats “alleged racist campaign tactics,” the Republican Club in Pemberton, NJ removed a banner yesterday from its website that compared Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL) to O.J. Simpson. “Obama loves America like O.J. loved Nicole,” the banner read. Though the image has now been removed, Blue Jersey saved a screen shot of the offensive banner:
Ed Kuck, the Republican County committeeman who placed the image on the website, told the Philadelphia Inquirer that he had put it up while adding pictures from a local rally for Sen. John McCain (R-AZ). Simpson was effectively found liable in a 1996 civil trial for the death of his ex-wife Nicole Brown Simpson.
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Ed Kuck, the Republican County committeeman
- - Oh but for an absent F.
July 9th, 2008 at 12:13 pmYep, this election will draw the racists out of their closets.
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(By the way, TP, the murders happened in 1994. The civil trial concluded in 1996.)
July 9th, 2008 at 12:13 pmAre all republicans racist pigs?
July 9th, 2008 at 12:13 pmIt's good to know that the Repug Party is still the Fear and Smear Party. I was thinking they might have lost their way and become human.
I hope we hear from some of our pet trolls on this one!
July 9th, 2008 at 12:14 pmMcSame will do to America
July 9th, 2008 at 12:24 pmwhat McSame did to the USS Forrestal
DwH Says:
Are all republicans racist pigs?
What, did you think the only reason they became Republicans was because they wanted tax cuts and wars?
July 9th, 2008 at 12:27 pmHere's a great campaign slogan:
"Let's shoot down McGrampa one more time!"
July 9th, 2008 at 12:32 pm"The Republican Party: You'll Come for the Tax Cuts and Wars; You'll Stay for the Racism!"
July 9th, 2008 at 12:33 pmMcSame will do to America
What Bush did to America
Doesn't get much worse than that.
July 9th, 2008 at 12:34 pmSimpson (R-WY) was effectively found liable in a 1996 civil trial for the death of his ex-wife...
So that's why that creepy looking skeletor f*** left the Senate.
Figures.
July 9th, 2008 at 12:36 pmIt's going to get nasty, folks. The right wing does not give up power without a fight. If you think this is bad, get ready for four months of relentless right-wing republican racist rancor.
July 9th, 2008 at 12:37 pmHo, ho, ha, ha...Republics are so very funny, what refined sense of humor they have. It's like they are born funny, this stuff is so natural for them, it just seems to flow from their tiny minds freely.
I mean they don't mean nothing by it, those references to monkeys, KKK, nooses, stuff sock puppets, jokes about OJ are just "Good Old White Boy" fun, heck all the racist bigots do it.
After all it's who the Republics are, isn't it?
July 9th, 2008 at 12:37 pmOJ was just up here golfing a couple of weeks back. He played 2 of my favorite courses in the region, & people went apeshit over a 'celebrity' being here.
Me?
I was hoping to see him out there & wrap a 9 iron around his neck.
July 9th, 2008 at 12:37 pmHere's a good one:
July 9th, 2008 at 12:38 pm
Or:
McGrampa
July 9th, 2008 at 12:41 pmloves America
Like a necropheliac
loves a warm corpse
I still support him. The alternative is unacceptable.
Are you saying that the alternative is ok with you?
July 9th, 2008 at 12:48 pm"I found out it was inappropriate, and I took it down," [The Web master, Ed] Kuck said.
Oh, and Ed, your shoe’s untied. (Bet he falls for it every time.) [Snickers]
Filed under: Dufus
July 9th, 2008 at 12:51 pmI am literally hanging my head in shame. I live in this town, and yes, it is like this. You must realize, it sits outside Ft. Dix and McGuire AFB and harbors a large number of military retirees (my hubby is one, but thank the Gods, he does not have that mindset and is NOT a rethuglican either). What these idiots don't realize is there is a reason the township voted all the rethuglicans out of office from the mayor through the entire council at the last election. They don't get it, however, and are still causing trouble filing suits against the Democratic mayor and council and shouting them down during town council meetings. They are true rethuglicans and most of the people in the town are tired of them. Since the Dems have been in charge, the streets are cleaner, the police respond faster, crime seems to be down and there are fewer stray pets wandering the streets. People are noticing the difference, so I doubt the Pemberton Rethugs will be back in office anytime soon. I will be actively campaigning against them this time!
July 9th, 2008 at 12:52 pmi wonder,
are the trolls
too ashamed
to comment?
*
good luck.
?
July 9th, 2008 at 12:54 pmOh. My. God.
I am so utterly ashamed of what this country has become!!
July 9th, 2008 at 12:55 pm"I found out it was inappropriate, and I took it down," Kuck said.
______________________________________________________________
He "found out" it was inappropriate? Somebody had to point that out to him? How much of an explanation did he need?
What a complete moron.
July 9th, 2008 at 12:57 pm.....AMERICA
July 9th, 2008 at 12:58 pmLoves McBush
Like McCAIN
Loved his 1st Wife
Exactly, Fred. Many people seem to forgot that Bill Clinton was not a hard leftist that appeased the liberals and progressives at every turn. I don't completely agree with all of Obama's issues, but I agree with him more of the time than the lousy alternative.
July 9th, 2008 at 12:59 pmI love The Google:
Pemberton Township Republican Club
Contact: Claudia Storicks - 609.332.4280
Claudia isn't answering her phone today.
Gee. I wonder why.
July 9th, 2008 at 1:02 pmLeftside Annie Says:
I love The Google:
Pemberton Township Republican Club
Contact: Claudia Storicks - 609.332.4280
Claudia isn’t answering her phone today.
Gee. I wonder why.
she's at a cross burning.
leave a message.
*
July 9th, 2008 at 1:04 pmFor too long, Republicans have hidden their racism behind a thin veil of supposed "conservative principles". Now, that they are threatened by their worst nightmare, a black man as President, they are forced be overtly racist in their desperation.
July 9th, 2008 at 1:08 pmTanqueray Says:
WTF? Obama = OJ is racist? How is that? Aren’t they both black guys? The way that term gets tossed around really lessens it’s importance.
i rest my case.
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July 9th, 2008 at 1:09 pmTanqueray Says:
Poor tang doesn't understand the nuances of the English language.
July 9th, 2008 at 1:11 pmFlag the stupid troll. We must all do so collectively for TP admin to notice. Let's watch Tanq become the next goner today!
July 9th, 2008 at 1:11 pmFred Says:
Tanqueray Says:
Poor tang doesn’t understand the nuances of the English language.
true,
but he is fluent
in racism.
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good luck.
¢
July 9th, 2008 at 1:13 pmOh, Fred, I think you're being a tad generous to young Tanky.
Tanky doesn't understand most of the basics of the English language.
July 9th, 2008 at 1:15 pmSiannan...
As a fellow New-Jerseyan thanks for your pertinent local report.
July 9th, 2008 at 1:18 pmDon't feel bad, this kind of venal propagandizing only amuses the ignorant and the racist--it will only persuade most "independents" that the GOP is riddled with idiots and scumbags.
Not all Republicans are Bigots.
All Bigots are Republican though.
This is true for the Homophobes, Jesus freaks, Mexihaters, war-mongers and gun nuts as well
July 9th, 2008 at 1:21 pmTanqueray Says:
WTF? Obama = OJ is racist? How is that? Aren’t they both black guys? The way that term gets tossed around really lessens it’s importance.
July 9th, 2008 at 1:08 pm
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Oh right - now I get it. See, it's funny cause all those Negroes look the same. Thanks for explaining Republican Racist Humor to me, Tanq!
July 9th, 2008 at 1:22 pmOf course, if you want to draw a comparison between OJ and a current political leader based on behavior rather than the color of their skin (which is, by definition, racist, Tanky), a case could be made for likening George Bush's vow to "get to the bottom" of the Plame outing to OJ's search for "the real killer".
July 9th, 2008 at 1:22 pmDo I smell another fake-progressive troll?
July 9th, 2008 at 1:23 pmBush "loves" America like Osama Bin Laden "loves" America.
Both TERRORISTS who are trying to DESTROY America.
And family business partners, go figure...
July 9th, 2008 at 1:23 pmAh, you can run, but you cannot hide - here is there email addy:
davidabby@comcast.net
July 9th, 2008 at 1:26 pmReich-wingers defend their fellow ilk to compare a presidential candidate to a racist murderer, but when a librarian compares McGrampa to herr dubyah, they get arrested.
How telling...
July 9th, 2008 at 1:36 pmReason #646 why republicans will never get anything more than the "uncle tom" vote.
"The Autobiography of Martin Luther King, Jr.," which was published after his death from his written material and records, King called the Republican national convention that nominated Goldwater a "frenzied wedding ... of the KKK and the radical right."
same ol' song 40 years later...
July 9th, 2008 at 1:37 pmI knew this was going to get ugly, but that is beyond ugly. It speaks volumes about the kind of people currently in the Republican party. My Republican friends are so disgusted with the current version of the party they are all voting Democratic in the November election. Two are actually considering changing parties because they say that the current Democratic party is more in line with the former Republican party.
July 9th, 2008 at 1:39 pmIt's sad this surfaces in the first place. But, it's positive that there is enough awareness and objection to get sentiment like this shot down quickly.
Of topic but this is a clip of Obama (it's from a conservative website).
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/07/09/obama-your-kids-should-learn-spanish/
Obama is right. It is embarrassing that most Americans only know one language. And instead of worrying about stamping out Spanish, we should be encouraging our people to speak it.
Conservatives are wrong on this issue. Another good reason to vote for Obama.
July 9th, 2008 at 1:41 pmHoly Hell!
And just as i was patting NJ on the back for Lautenberg's vote on FThe Dodd Amendment/Fisa.
(missed Menendez.
Unbelievable.
July 9th, 2008 at 1:42 pmWhat bastards these people are.
sickening.
Tanq must be so proud of his fellow Repugs, they espouse his core beliefs.
Anyone that would not see a racial connotation in a Obama=OJ, is insane. Nicole represents WHITE America.
Sad but true, the KKK and Skinheads like Tanq and a few other trolls, are alive and well in 2008.
July 9th, 2008 at 1:43 pmbackup/jabberjaw posting links to Anchor baby malkin. Go Figure.
July 9th, 2008 at 1:44 pmOh great, the southern strategy rears its head -- in the NORTH!!
We have so far to go in this country. I am afraid there isn't enough time...
July 9th, 2008 at 1:47 pmAnd here I thought the cave men in the GEICO commercials were actors in heavy makeup. Turns out they are the executive committee of the Pemberton(NJ) Republican Club -- along with some of the trolls on this site -- Hi Tanked!
July 9th, 2008 at 1:48 pmSo Zed, who are YOU supporting?
July 9th, 2008 at 1:48 pmFred Says:
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Tanqueray Says:
Poor tang doesn’t understand the nuances of the English language.
Poor tang doesn’t understand the nuances of humanity.
July 9th, 2008 at 1:52 pmZed can always be counted on to bring the wacked-out absurd wingnut view.
Without it, this forum would be a little bit less fun.
July 9th, 2008 at 1:53 pmI find all this rush to anoint the Racist Jesse Helms a the next Repug Saint is very telling.
Almost every Faux talking head and many of the Repugs, past and present have drooled all over themselves, telling each other how great he was.
Again, a very telling situation in the Repug/Racist Party.
It will be fun to see the squirming going on in January, Heh heh.
July 9th, 2008 at 1:54 pmbackup Says:
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It’s sad this surfaces in the first place. But, it’s positive that there is enough awareness and objection to get sentiment like this shot down quickly.
Yes, it is positive that not everyone is a Republican.
July 9th, 2008 at 1:55 pmSo, Zed, who are you supporting? Never answered my question.
July 9th, 2008 at 1:59 pmHey Zed, Tanquerey wants to tell you how you can save a bundle by switching your car insurance. . . oh never mind.
July 9th, 2008 at 2:04 pmYou say that and it is an ignorant statement to begin with but the truth is your posts don't even reflect what you have said......you are kinda flaky.
July 9th, 2008 at 2:04 pmZed Lefflin: I also have more fun than your average American should be allowed to have
You need to lay of the Limbaugh. A battered liver can be healed or replaced, brain damage, not so much.
July 9th, 2008 at 2:16 pmMatt, do me a favor. Go ahead and prove I'm jabberjaw. It's almost as entertaining as 9/11 conspiracy.
July 9th, 2008 at 2:23 pmI already proved it.
July 9th, 2008 at 2:25 pmOr as watching you conservatives squirm over the inevitable turn of events that are coming. Many of the things your type deny will be revealed in the future.
Please convince us that there have been no conspiracies to go to war, help big oil, etc. so you see, we believe that where there is smoke there is fire.
and by the way captain.....you have had multiple names here so that's not such a stretch....get real please
July 9th, 2008 at 2:32 pmFred. TP banned me as CaptainMantastic (and deleted most of my old posts). So, I started posting with a back up.
I'm not squirming about an inevitable turn of events. I watch Obama with an open mind and like what I see.
Matt. go ahead and show me how you've already 'proved' it. I'll be very interested, because I know it's not so.
But, please, entertain me.
July 9th, 2008 at 2:54 pmYou can entertain yourself by looking in the mirror.
You'll be banned again....it's only a matter of time, backupmanjabberstaticjaw.
July 9th, 2008 at 3:17 pmZed ? How can you even read these posts with those headphones on full blast?
July 9th, 2008 at 3:17 pmI'll give you a standing 'O' for this:
backupmanjabberstaticjaw
That's very good.
And, if you want to think I'm jabberjaw, it's okay with me as long as it's okay with jabberjaw.
Matt, think about this. I understand me being banned from TP.
If many posters here flag me and want me banned, I get it.
But, in addition to banning, someone felt the need to delete my posts from the site. What do you have to say to illicit that?
July 9th, 2008 at 3:33 pmillicit wasn't right, how about warrant?
July 9th, 2008 at 3:36 pmbackup Says:
But, in addition to banning, someone felt the need to delete my posts from the site. What do you have to say to illicit that?
that sentence makes
no sense.
perhaps you meant
to use the word "elicit"?
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good luck.
?
July 9th, 2008 at 3:47 pmjoe. you got me. Is warrant better?
July 9th, 2008 at 4:03 pmelicit is better. Thanks.
July 9th, 2008 at 4:05 pmMatt. Come on. Let's hash this out.
July 9th, 2008 at 4:28 pmTasteless, sure. Offensive, sure. But which version of "racist" does this meet ?
rac·ism
July 9th, 2008 at 4:32 pm1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.
2. a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.
3. hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.
It looks like you got your definitions from dictionary.com -- a fine source, although you neglected to include a link.
Was that because the page also includes this definition from American Heritage Dictionary?
The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.
Can you offer another basis of comparison between the two men in question, besides their skin color?
July 9th, 2008 at 4:39 pmI didn't include the definition you posted because it was essentially the same as definition #1 from my post. The fact that the two men have the same skin color does not insinuate that one race is superior to another.
The comparison to a murderer may be offensive to you and others, but in the English language, it doesn't qualify as being racist.
July 9th, 2008 at 4:52 pmgetOverIt,
your argument makes
no sense.
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July 9th, 2008 at 4:56 pmTO YOU IGNORANT PEOPLE, IF BEING A REPUBLICAN OR BETTER YET AN INDEPENDENT AND NOT VOTING FOR OBAMA MAKES ME A RACIST PIG THAN HANG EM HIGH
July 9th, 2008 at 4:56 pmgetOverIt,
on the other hand
you have won over
racist pig.
*
i believe he falls under
the category of definition #3.
>
good luck.
*
July 9th, 2008 at 5:05 pmJoe Cantwell,
It's not an argument, it's a statement of fact. The word "racist" is being misused here. It does not apply. Too often our language is misapplied by ignorance or for the sake of sensationalism. This is a perfect example.
The fact that you're offended by the banner doesn't make it "racist".
July 9th, 2008 at 5:16 pm(sigh) Okay, just on the off-chance that you’re capable of rational debate, I’ll explain it to you this way:
In the definition I offered, you conveniently ignored the primary part:
The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability
in order to falsely equate it with:
a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one’s own race is superior and has the right to rule others.
If you want to stick with your more restrictive definition, the inclusion of the term “usually” seems quite important, in that racism need not always be characterized by a belief in racial superiority. It also includes the characterization of people based on their race, which is what the offensive banner did in this case.
There is no other reasonable means of comparison between the presidential candidate Obama and the murderer Simpson other than their race. One could take the comparison further and equate the majority race of the nation that Obama seeks to lead (white) with the race of Simpson’s victims (both white).
The racial component of the message is overwhelming and is clearly its primary intent.
You don’t do very well trying to drop this in the path:
The comparison to a murderer may be offensive to you and others, but in the English language, it doesn’t qualify as being racist.
Strictly speaking, it’s true, the comparison to a murderer is not “racist” in the general sense. However, we are talking specifically about a notorious African-American murderer being compared to the first African American to (presumably) receive a major party’s nomination for President.
THAT is racist, when there is no other reason to juxtapose the two aside from their common race.
July 9th, 2008 at 5:19 pmWrong. A racist statement need not overtly include the narrow parameters of racism that you're insisting on.
Racist intent is seldom openly expressed because of this thing called "social norms". Most people, you see, recognize that racist statements don't go over very well with a general audience, so they are couched in less overt trappings, delivered in code, or otherwise disguised as "possibly offensive, but not technically racist".
Your disingenuous parsing of this issue is pathetic.
July 9th, 2008 at 5:25 pmgetOverIt,
sorry old sport
you've missed the mark
again.
*
perhaps this will help:
you must take a more epistemological
approach to the argumentation portion
of your thesis in order to qualify it's
empirical value, understand?
*
however, as i have previously stated,
you have managed to win
racist pig over to
your point of view. congratulations.
*
good luck
*
July 9th, 2008 at 5:26 pmralph,
i don't think
getOverIt
is going to be able to
get over it.
:)
thank you.
*
July 9th, 2008 at 5:28 pmNo, joe cantwell -- thank YOU, my friend.
I believe you're right.
July 9th, 2008 at 5:43 pmRacist intent is seldom openly expressed unless the Republicans are in danger of losing an election to a black man.
July 9th, 2008 at 6:28 pmFigures:
July 9th, 2008 at 10:32 pmEd Gillespie was born 1 August 1962 in Browns Mills, New Jersey. Browns Mills is a census-designated place and unincorporated area located within Pemberton Township, in Burlington County
The Pemberton Republican Club official contact (from their IRS 527 organizational application) is: davidabby@comcast.net.
Here's what I wrote to them:
Sir;
As you are the registered contact agent for the IRS 527 group
"Pemberton Township Republican Club", I write to you to express my utter outrage, and my extreme embarrassment at being a fellow Republican, at your contemptible, unacceptable, and inexcusable website banner comparing Mr. Obama to O. J. Simpson. That your lackey was quoted as saying: “I found out it was inappropriate, and I took it down,” Kuck said" leaves me speechless and disgusted. He 'found out' it was inappropriate? How could he not know it was inappropriate and unacceptable? What kind of rubes does your 527 employ?
We Republicans are supposed to be better; we are supposed to stand for what makes America great, not snickering, racist boobs with uninformed minds and hating hearts.
Are our Republican ideals, policies and visions so corrupt, so
bankrupt, so bereft of public appeal that they cannot stand on their own? Can we maintain political support in no other way than to appeal to the lowest of the low, the bigots, racists, morons and hicks? You all may think this is very funny, but it is a black eye for Republicans everywhere. Maybe you didn't notice, but this will be a very tough election year for us--oh, right, you are from Pemberton--maybe you DID notice--your lot got shown the door last election, didn't they?
Probably because of attitudes and stunts like this. Grow up or stop representing yourselves as Republicans. We are ashamed of you, ashamed to be associated with you. You make Republicans everywhere appear to be the "lowest of the low, the bigots, racists, morons and hicks" which you Pemberton lot apparently are.
I am beyond disgusted.
Dr. Donald B. MacGowan
July 9th, 2008 at 11:10 pmthis is as racist as This idiot misunderstanding things
It was a high profile murder and this racial sensitivity is pising me off
July 10th, 2008 at 1:22 pm