The AP reported yesterday that U.S. exports to Iran “grew more than tenfold during President Bush’s years in office.” When a reporter informed Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) of the story, noting that “America sent more cigarettes to Iran…than any other products,” McCain said, “Maybe thats a way of killing them.” After being poked in the back by his wife, McCain quickly added, “I meant that as a joke!” — presumably one similar to his bomb Iran “joke.”
Some reporters dismissed McCain’s new Iran “joke,” suggesting that it is perhaps just part of his “regular guy” persona, an endearing quality for a man running for an office that commands the world’s strongest and most advanced military:
NBC’s Chuck Todd: “That’s what makes him real and that’s what makes people who disagree with him say ‘ah, you know what? The guy seems like any guy you’d want to have around the dinner table or the bar stool.’”
CNN’s Jessica Yellin: “People who love him think his a maverick and think he’s a real guy who makes a joke off the cuff just like real people do [but] we’re all waiting to see if something explodes, this kind of comment doesn’t.”
Watch it:
Despite agreeing with Todd’s assessment, MSNBC host Joe Scarborough noted that McCain “jokes a lot about killing Iranians.” And as Matt Yglesias noted, this time, “the targets of his lust for killing foreigners are clearly ordinary Iranian civilians.”
But the press have once again decided to let McCain slide, choosing instead to hype his alleged “real guy,” “maverick” and “straight talker” status.
NBC’s Chuck Todd: That’s what makes him real and that’s what makes people who disagree with him say “ah, you know what? The guy seems like any guy you’d want to have around the dinner table or the bar stool.”
Haven’t we learned by now just how stupid it is to pick an presidential candidate by this criterion?
July 9th, 2008 at 4:23 pmI wonder if Chris Mathews will have a little conversation with Chris Todd about this remark? How about Rachel? She’s hosting Countdown this week.
July 9th, 2008 at 4:26 pmI would not sit next to a lying mean spirited arrogant delusional bully at a bar…and I certainly don’t want one for POTUS.
July 9th, 2008 at 4:26 pmOk, more vomit-worthy MSM news via ThinkProg.
St. John can do no wrong on the airwaves, let it be widely known. Imagine Obama saying something similar as a “joke,” and the media reaction…
July 9th, 2008 at 4:28 pmSo joking about killing people is ‘regular guy’ dinner conversation? right… Chuck needs to gtfo of my TV plz
July 9th, 2008 at 4:28 pm… have around the dinner table so your kids can learn how non-chalantly you can joke about killing innocent people. McCain’s experience has taught him the diplomacy of bar room brawling.
July 9th, 2008 at 4:31 pmI don’t dine or drink with blustering bullies who think the death of other people is funny.
What a sick, stupid remark, and I mean Chuck Todd’s. The man is gay–is he telling me he’d welcome being at a gay bar with Old Cranky? I doubt it. He’s simply condescending to Americans in general and whitewashing McCain.
July 9th, 2008 at 4:31 pm… and speaking of stupid ways to decide on a candidate, Jesse Ventura is considering a run for the Minnesota Senate seat currently held by Norm Coleman.
Here’s what he had to say to Minnesotans:
“And all you Minnesotans take a good hard look at all three of us ad you decide if you were in a dark alley, which one of the three of us would you want with you?” Ventura said.
Is that really the best way to choose a U. S. Senator? The “dark alley” test?
July 9th, 2008 at 4:32 pmMaybe it’s a ‘real guy’ persona, but if he wants to be president of the United States and leader on the world stage, maybe he needs to be a little less ‘real guy’.
July 9th, 2008 at 4:32 pmI wonder how the media would react to someone making the same joke about McCains wife?
July 9th, 2008 at 4:33 pmIf joking about genocide is about being a regular guy, I’m glad to count myself among the non-regular guys.
July 9th, 2008 at 4:33 pmMcCain and ‘reporters’ sittin’ in a tree….
Get a room!
July 9th, 2008 at 4:34 pmYou mean “real dumb-guy” persona?
July 9th, 2008 at 4:34 pmralph. He did stand up to the predator.
July 9th, 2008 at 4:35 pmOh geez….McLame reminds me of an escentric old uncle that shoots off at the hip without thought.
McCain for President of the United States??? God help us.
July 9th, 2008 at 4:35 pm“Real guy,” Yeah, we’ve been there, done that.
Geeze, can we have terrorists attack JUST the MSM, kinda like a Journalistic Neutron Bomb?
July 9th, 2008 at 4:35 pmChuck Todd obviously has some issues if he wants to sit around the bar or dinner table with a socially awkward old man laughing inappropriately as he “jokes” about killing people. The talking heads filling air time between Viagra commercials don’t exactly take polls before making these confident pronouncements about what “the people” like or don’t like. This kind of looney behavior is just going to remind people of how embarrassing it is every time Chimpy opens his yap.
July 9th, 2008 at 4:36 pmDouble standard.
July 9th, 2008 at 4:39 pmIf Obama had said that, he would have been eviserated by the press.
But…
Obama has class, and would never say that.
When did Chuck Todd start sucking McCain’s dick?
‘No, barkeep, I don’t drink…I’m here with Gramps for action.’
July 9th, 2008 at 4:39 pmbackup
As I recall Jesse got skinned by the predator
July 9th, 2008 at 4:39 pm(feeling shame for having actually seen movie. . .)
Just one month after airing an ad declaring “only a fool or a fraud talks tough or romantically about war,” John McCain once again joked about creating carnage in Iran. On the stump Tuesday, McCain added killing Iranians with cigarette addiction to last year’s musing about “bomb bomb Iran.” Whether he’s yukking it up over conflict with Tehran, following Osama Bin Laden to the “gates of hell” or just being the “worst nightmare” of Al Qaeda and Hamas, John McCain sounds more and more like the man he seeks to replace.
For the details, see:
July 9th, 2008 at 4:40 pm“McCain Mimics Bush with Iran Jokes, Bin Laden Boasts.”
That’s what makes him real and that’s what makes people who disagree with him say “ah, you know what? The guy seems like any guy you’d want to have around the dinner table or the bar stool.”
My god, we just went through this with “have a beer with” Bush resulting in the worst presidency in history. What do you say about a people so utterly incapable of learning from their mistakes? The answer of course is insanity, the definition of which is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different outcome.
http://progressiveworldreview.com
July 9th, 2008 at 4:41 pmbackup, if one were to choose a feature film from which to pluck cast members for governorships, wouldn’t you think we could do better than Predator?
July 9th, 2008 at 4:41 pmVentura would be better than Coleman, ‘Bush’s Lantern’
July 9th, 2008 at 4:41 pmThe really ironic thing about people who wanted to have a beer with Bush is that he’s a dry drunk. How many “regular guys” want to have a beer with a guy who’s drinking O’Douls? I mean, really.
July 9th, 2008 at 4:43 pmSo if some ME prez says Israel should be wiped off the map and then he says it was just a joke, that would be acceptable? He’s only kidding.
July 9th, 2008 at 4:43 pmMN now has a Predator for Governor, folks.
And he just may be McBush’s VP.
Life may mimic movies, but Political Predators are forever.
July 9th, 2008 at 4:44 pmHow many people are getting paid off?????? How many corporations influence the reporters with threats of no employment because it does not make any sense. We the public see things one way and the news media sees it another way…is there that much disconnect in the story.
what a sick day to be an American!!!!
July 9th, 2008 at 4:48 pmralph the wonder llama Says:
backup, if one were to choose a feature film from which to pluck cast members for governorships, wouldn’t you think we could do better than Predator?
Oooh oooh! Sounds like a contest to me.
Lethal Weapon? You get the Aussie.
July 9th, 2008 at 4:49 pmYeah, and I’m sure that this same pathetic, pandering, and servile corporate news media would be falling all over themselves to apologize for Mahmoud Ahmadinejad if he made a “joke” about killing U. S. citizens?
The corporate news media in this country is nothing but Tass renamed.
Oh, that’s right. Ahmadinejad didn’t voluntarily to become the slave of large corporate interests in this country. Too bad Mahmoud, you don’t get the McCain exemption.
July 9th, 2008 at 4:49 pmBeing a joke, and making a joke, are two entirely different things.
McCain is the former, not the latter.
July 9th, 2008 at 4:50 pmChuck Todd played the French Horn in college band.
That’s all you need to know.
July 9th, 2008 at 4:50 pmOh, crap. I think if I hear that flucking stupid (and damned inaccurate!) term “maverick” applied to McMurder one more time, I’m going to hurl.
July 9th, 2008 at 4:53 pmThe really ironic thing about people who wanted to have a beer with Bush is that he’s a dry drunk. How many “regular guys” want to have a beer with a guy who’s drinking O’Douls?
GDumbya is hardly a “dry drunk” — he is a raging, full-out active alcoholic. I seriously doubt that he ever stopped drinking. He just hid it more effectively.
Ditto for Darth Cheney.
July 9th, 2008 at 4:53 pmThe guy seems like any guy you’d want to have around the dinner table or the bar stool.”
But only as long as he’s buying. I’ve listened to some pretty crazy sh*t, and even nodded along, for the price of a few cool ones. But listen to him sober? I’d rather attend an AA meeting.
July 9th, 2008 at 4:54 pmOk here we effing go again. The Village Idiots of our pundit class are once again pushing the “regular guy” narrative for their candidate of choice. And as we all know, that worked out so well for American and the world when they did it in 2000 for GW McBush.
Just once I’d like to see, live on teevee, some non-koolaid drinking realist look one of these cyborg pundits straight in the eye when they mouth these idiotic platitudes, and call them for what they are — bought and paid for corporate whores, who when the time comes, ought to be standing side-by-side with Bush, Cheney and their neo-con cabalists on trial at the Hague for aiding and abetting crimes against humanity.
Just saying . . .
July 9th, 2008 at 4:55 pmWow you libral’s are really pathetic. If you listen to his comment, it clearly comes off as a joke and besides whats wrong with what he said about Iran? You do realize Iran hates the US and Israel right? Ragging on him because of a joke, which was FUNNY if you had any sense of humor, is plain stupid. Get a life and maybe some intelligence while your at it…
July 9th, 2008 at 4:56 pmThe Nader/Gonzalez campaign is now at six percent in the most recent CNN poll.
Didn’t Jabber say he was at 15%?
That’s gotta hurt!
July 9th, 2008 at 4:57 pmLighten up, Troll JK? That’s what I’ve been urging you for days! Where’s the ol’ light-hearted, three-sheets-to-the-wind absurdist troll we’ve come to know and love? It’s almost like you’re taking this “politics” stuff seriously after all this time.
Not even close. Especially since this thread is criticizing the media, not McSame.
But if we wanna make fun of Grampy, we’ve got plenty of options. Grampy keeps makin’ ‘em fresh for us, every durn day.
Now THERE’S the absurdist Troll JK! Good to see you haven’t completely lost your sense of humor.
July 9th, 2008 at 5:00 pmWho corrected you, jj?
July 9th, 2008 at 5:01 pmRagging on him because of a joke, which was FUNNY if you had any sense of humor, is plain stupid.
Exactly what was it that you found so humorous? The thinly-disquised lung cancer/emphesema joke, or the killing part? As someone who’s mother died of lung cancer, and who’s wife just recently died of COPD, I’m curious what is so funny?
July 9th, 2008 at 5:02 pmZimzone Says:
When did Chuck Todd start sucking McCain’s dick?
– - Doubtful. I understand that Chuck Todd chokes on small bones.
July 9th, 2008 at 5:02 pmOkay, this has GOT to be a clever liberal posing as a clueless wingnut, right?
July 9th, 2008 at 5:03 pmConvenient of you to overlook that.
Hey, I only asked a question.
Didn’t like the way I framed it? Guess who I learned that from?
July 9th, 2008 at 5:04 pm“Joking” about death should immediately, and permanently, bar one from public service. It’s indicative of a sociopathic personality.
July 9th, 2008 at 5:05 pmIs it really necessary for McCain to pay for one political advertisement? He’s got a 24 hour a day infomercial from the MSM extolling what a great guy he is. Obama has got a lot of work to do.
July 9th, 2008 at 5:06 pmgfarky
Please cite all evidence to support your naked assertion that Iran (i.e.its people, not its nutty figurehead) “hates the U.S. and Israel”. While you were crapping your pants in your mommy’s basement on September 11 spontaneous candlelight vigils broke out in several neighborhoods in Tehran in solidarity with the U.S. This is one of the more western oriented Islamic states in the region. Its people are predominantly Persian, not Arab and have historically maintained cultural ties with much of Europe. Add in the fact that younger Iranians are chaffing at the restrictions put on them by the fundamentalists who control the government and you have a population that can be cultivated if we can perhaps persuade the latest rich dumb guy running for president to refrain from making stupid “jokes” about murdering them. Kindly fuk off and have a nice day.
July 9th, 2008 at 5:06 pm“NBC’s Chuck Todd: That’s what makes him real and that’s what makes people who disagree with him say “ah, you know what? The guy seems like any guy you’d want to have around the dinner table or the bar stool.””
It’s this kind of “thinking” (and I use that term loosely) that got us into the mess we’re in now.
July 9th, 2008 at 5:07 pmpete Says:
“Joking” about death should immediately, and permanently, bar one from public service. It’s indicative of a sociopathic personality.
But it actually frames McCain so well for journalists; in him, they see the Great Communicator II, or, the embodiment of all of Reagan’s fondest foibles.
July 9th, 2008 at 5:09 pmgfarky Says:
Ragging on him because of a joke, which was FUNNY if you had any sense of humor, is plain stupid. Get a life and maybe some intelligence while your at it…
And I hope you die of terminal strangulated testicles.
Now, THAT is funny!
July 9th, 2008 at 5:09 pmralph. you’re right. I personally like ‘Bill and Ted’s Excellent Adventure’.
Our diplomacy can be taken to another level.
Here’s the vision I share with Bill and Ted. Check it out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVXGC896Jdw
July 9th, 2008 at 5:12 pmAh, yes, I love having someone around the dinner table who thinks it’s funny to kill innocent people. It makes for that warm, ‘family values’ type of conversation. With McCain, what makes it worse, is that he really does want to bomb & kill them.
July 9th, 2008 at 5:13 pmYup, another free pass for Teflon John by the media.
July 9th, 2008 at 5:16 pmActually by our continued support of the Tobacco Companies, we probably have actually contributed to many deaths. I guess that’s funny if you own a lot of Tobacco Co. stock. Sick.
July 9th, 2008 at 5:17 pmRemember how the journalists in the ’80’s fondly spoke of Reagan, and his political abilities. Like convincing “reverse-discrimination” Reagan blue-collar democrats to jump ship; his version of being a “political maverick.”
He also joked, about launching nuclear strikes at the USSR.
July 9th, 2008 at 5:17 pmWhy do I feel like Charlton Heston’s character in the final scene of the film “Planet of the Apes”?
The inmates are running the asylum. Down is up. Black is white. Night is day. War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength…
God help us.
July 9th, 2008 at 5:18 pmFor a moment, let’s just set aside the obvious tastelessness of joking about killing people, and focus on the press fawning all over the “regular guy” persona:
Have we learned NOTHING over the past two presidential terms? The press painted Bush as a “regular guy” and even championed his Bushisms as part of this persona. After all, all his gaffes painted him as a regular guy, not an idiot — you know, the kind of guy you’d like to have a beer with.
And they’re doing it again. Further proof that McCain would be Bush44.
Personally, I don’t WANT a “regular guy” to be president. This is a guy who is going to be making decisions that will deeply affect the present and future of our country. This is a guy who will be meeting other foreign leaders and representing us. This is a guy whose finger will be on the button. This is a guy who, if he does his job well (and maybe even if he doesn’t), will have schools, federal buildings, airports, bridges, and other things named after him.
I expect such a guy to be anything but regular. I expect him to be WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY beyond average. But hey — that’s just me.
July 9th, 2008 at 5:21 pmWhat is so ironic in joking about killing Iranian people is the fact that they love us. They want a western style democracy. It’s their leadership that is the problem. But instead of appealing to our friends in Iran to topple their government, McCain jokes about killing the very people we should be embracing. All in the name of “security” of course.
http://progressiveworldreview.com
July 9th, 2008 at 5:23 pmI am seriously disappointed in Chuck Todd. I used to like him but lately on Countdown he’s been starting to sound more and more like a Republican. What’s up with that?
There is NOTHING funny in joking about killing people. What is wrong with the MSM. Do they really want to complete the destruction of the USA? Because that’s what they are doing by continuing to bow to McCain and not report on his flip flops.
July 9th, 2008 at 5:23 pmYo, McCain, way to reach out and connect with the people of Iran. What a diplomat! Barf.
July 9th, 2008 at 5:25 pmand now we see chuck todd’s true colors…
i never understood the hero worship bestowed upon him anyway…
and you know it’s coming – the ‘real guy’ racist joke…
can’t wait.
July 9th, 2008 at 5:25 pmDr. Hussein Matt Says
July 9th, 2008 at 4:58 pm
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gfarky Says:
You do realize Iran hates the US and Israel right
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So? A lot of governments hate the US and Israel…thanks to herr dubyah and his destructive and failed policies.
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I believe that gfarky thinks we should bomb EVERYBODY who hates us. And keep the bombing going until they start liking us again.
Makes about as much sense as our current foreign policy. Oh wait…
July 9th, 2008 at 5:26 pmZimzone Says:
When did Chuck Todd start sucking McCain’s dick?
‘No, barkeep, I don’t drink…I’m here with Gramps for action.’
It started some time after the primaries ended. Up until that time he seemed like a pretty bright guy. Now pretty much everything he says about Obama is tinged with criticism. Maybe he danced with Karl Rove like Dick Gregory did. That was what started Gregory’s decline.
July 9th, 2008 at 5:27 pmmissmolly. I agree. It’s seems like we ought to have more to chose from. Why we can’t find better applicants would probably be a great topic for a whole thread of it’s own.
But, for me, Obama has been saying a lot of the right things. I wish he had more experience, but other than that, he does seem atypical (in the best way).
I think we’re ready for real leadership. I hope Obama is everything he seems to be.
July 9th, 2008 at 5:34 pmYet Obama is an elitist…go figure…
July 9th, 2008 at 5:34 pmralph the wonder llama Says:
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… and speaking of stupid ways to decide on a candidate, Jesse Ventura is considering a run for the Minnesota Senate seat currently held by Norm Coleman.
Here’s what he had to say to Minnesotans:
“And all you Minnesotans take a good hard look at all three of us ad you decide if you were in a dark alley, which one of the three of us would you want with you?” Ventura said.
I would want Norm Coleman with me. Any thugs we met would undoubtedly go after that nerdy little weasel first, and I would have a chance to get away.
July 9th, 2008 at 5:34 pmWhat I find to be amazing is how these primitives believe that they can impose “Western culture and Democracy” on the people who invented civilization. Patronizing a 5,000 year old culture is as stupid as threatening them.
July 9th, 2008 at 5:38 pm1) This is the same guy who sang Bomb, Bomb, Bomb, Bomb Bomb Iran.
2) If politics is the art of the possible, how are these “jokes” helping move things forward ? Instead it looks to me like he’s poisoning the well.
3) Considering the total lack of dignity and penchant for making incindiary statements, Is this the guy we want pushing the button ?
July 9th, 2008 at 5:39 pmshoeless, that is funny right there. You’re absolutely right. Ol’ Norm would collapse in a whimpering heap, or, in a flashback to the elementary school playground, would offer the thugs money to leave him alone.
July 9th, 2008 at 5:42 pmMcCain can pull of juvenile and senile in one fell swoop.
July 9th, 2008 at 5:43 pmCorrection: McCain can pull OFF juvenile and senile in one fell swoop.
By the way has Gramps even mentioned the killing of the 4th amendment?
July 9th, 2008 at 5:47 pmJesse Ventura is, first and always, an entertainer. And he is smarter than the average kitchen appliance. But, if he would like to provide a valuable service, he would volunteer to hand deliver letters and subpoenas for Waxman and Conyers. I can’t picture Karl telling Jesse to go Eff himself.
July 9th, 2008 at 5:48 pmshoeless,
I also would rank Linseed Graham and Lil’ Ricky Santorum with that group; neither of them would swing their man-purses at the bad guys.
July 9th, 2008 at 5:50 pmjb Says:
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Correction: McCain can pull OFF juvenile and senile in one fell swoop.
By the way has Gramps even mentioned the killing of the 4th amendment?
Someone would have to inform him first. He hasn’t been in the Senate this year.
July 9th, 2008 at 5:54 pmYeah, Mclust-for-killing-foreigners is too busy pandering and making sick comments to take care of the people’s business. Did he smirk and bat his eyes after his killing Iranians snide remark?
July 9th, 2008 at 5:59 pmDo you think Grampy McSame sometimes falls asleep on the Pander Express and has a version of that dream where you show up in high school and there’s a test but you realize you’ve been absent for months? Only in Grampy’s dream, he shows up at the Senate and there’s a vote and he hasn’t been in the Senate for months and has no idea what the vote is on?
No, me neither.
July 9th, 2008 at 6:07 pmJust what is the old fool good for? Filling space for the GOP?
July 9th, 2008 at 6:13 pmThis Nucker is clearly Futz!
July 9th, 2008 at 6:16 pmjb, if I thought that nationwide voting blocks were capable of such coordinated reasoning, I’d say that the Republics know they’re toast in this election, and they’re throwing Grampy a bone since he got shiv’ed eight years ago and they don’t want to waste a decent candidate.
Of course, now that I think about it, they haven’t really got a decent candidate, have they?
Scratch what I just said.
July 9th, 2008 at 6:16 pm“real people” joke about killing Iranians?
July 9th, 2008 at 6:17 pmwhat’s wrong with these people?????
Apparently, Grampy McLame has adopted the gracious southern lady persona straight out of “Steel Magnolias”. You know those genteel southern ladies who say the most venomnous, spiteful things then slap on “bless his/her heart” at the end to make it right. same thing with grampy and his “jokes”.
July 9th, 2008 at 6:17 pmOh, those funny republics, wow, their senses of humor is just so sharp. Humor is just so natural for them, the jokes just roll off their tongues. Their wit is just amazing.
But if you think jokes about killing people is NOT funny, then, not so much.
July 9th, 2008 at 6:18 pmIf some of you old timers here remember William Bendix in “The Life of Riley”, McIIIrd is starting to remind me of him.
July 9th, 2008 at 6:21 pmHe gets caught doing increbily stupid shit, and just hehe’s his way out of it..
1313 Blueview Terrace…
Amazingly enough, the party that rants and raves about being “the party of life” when it comes to abortions isn’t much so when it comes to killing people in the middle east.
July 9th, 2008 at 6:22 pmActually, exporting cigarettes is a way for McCain and Bush’s cronies get rich faster, even if Iran is a grave threat, they have to take care of their tobacco friends.
July 9th, 2008 at 6:55 pm“That’s what makes him real and that’s what makes people who disagree with him say ‘ah, you know what? The guy seems like any guy you’d want to have around the dinner table or the bar stool.’”
Remember when folks said that GWB was the guy they’d like to sit around and have a beer with?
And guess what we got! If you want “same o, same o”, you know where to get it!
July 9th, 2008 at 7:59 pm.
So,
Ahmadinejad is NOT a real guy…?
… Oh, only IF he was joking about Israel.
Q U E S T I O N:
What kind of person wishes, jokingly or otherwise, the death of a Nation of people? History is pleat with examples…
Pol Pot, Hitler, Stalin, …
BIRDS OF A FEATHER.
Who did Jesus joke about getting killed?
Maybe McTORTURE can ask his BBF Hagee that one…
.
July 9th, 2008 at 10:58 pmChuck Todd is a super creep.
July 9th, 2008 at 11:47 pmI could post dozens of facts that make you look stupid.
I could appeal for you to use reason before casting judgement.
I could ask that you research facts before you make wild claims.
In the end, it’s all for naught. You are the weaker mind and unless you learn to stand up to the enemies that wish to do you harm, you will cease to exist.
Call me a facist, call me a nazi, call me cold blooded. The dollar continues to fall, energy is traded in European currency, and politicians can’t spend money fast enough yet this is acceptable here. DO something about it. Vote independent, organize a rally, do something that makes a point. But for the love of god do it for the right reasons. Abolish your ‘politicans’ and their contributions. Remove thos that self serve. Elect those that truly want to make a difference but stop acting like the democrats give 2 f()cks about you. They don;t. What’s the last thing they actually go to you?
Learn to use your opinion instead of someone elses…
July 10th, 2008 at 12:42 amOur worst enemies are called the Bush Administration. And our national mission is to let the World know we’re sorry. We didn’t know they could do so much damage and we’ll never let it happen again.
July 10th, 2008 at 2:13 amYeah, a guy with whom have a beer, or preemptively invade the wrong country,
July 10th, 2008 at 6:21 amI guess I just don’t respect ‘real guys’ then–and would never want to hang out with someone at a bar who talks like that. That’s not ‘real guy’ talk, that’s uneducated a-hole talk.
July 10th, 2008 at 10:15 amI guess Ahmadinejad is the kind of ‘real guy’ you’d like to have at your dinner table as well.
July 10th, 2008 at 10:16 am