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	<title>Comments on: Turley: It’s ‘A Very Inconvenient Fact Right Now’ To Say Bush Committed A Felony With His Wiretapping Program</title>
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		<title>By: Omnipotency</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/07/09/turley-fisa-felony/comment-page-2/#comment-5080224</link>
		<dc:creator>Omnipotency</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 04:04:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh how I hope that I see the day that anarchy reigns and I can string every one of you communists on a tall pole with a short rope.

Until then, modern society dictates that I put up with your ridiculous and outlandish versions of the truth.  While I don&#039;t agree with NOT gibbetting you wastes of carbon atoms, I am relatively powerless to stop it.  Therefore, I can only sit idly by why you waste your lives and the few remaining brain cells that have escaped the marijuana induced haze you perma-carved into your brains.

TLDR version since I know you canned hams can&#039;t read, let alone form coherent sentences:  I wouldn&#039;t piss on your ashes, untermenschen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh how I hope that I see the day that anarchy reigns and I can string every one of you communists on a tall pole with a short rope.</p>
<p>Until then, modern society dictates that I put up with your ridiculous and outlandish versions of the truth.  While I don&#8217;t agree with NOT gibbetting you wastes of carbon atoms, I am relatively powerless to stop it.  Therefore, I can only sit idly by why you waste your lives and the few remaining brain cells that have escaped the marijuana induced haze you perma-carved into your brains.</p>
<p>TLDR version since I know you canned hams can&#8217;t read, let alone form coherent sentences:  I wouldn&#8217;t piss on your ashes, untermenschen.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5080224', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Exit Stage Left</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/07/09/turley-fisa-felony/comment-page-2/#comment-5080168</link>
		<dc:creator>Exit Stage Left</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 03:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is becoming more and more apparent that it matters not which complicit politician or party is in power. Nothing is gonna change except for that it&#039;s just gonna get worse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is becoming more and more apparent that it matters not which complicit politician or party is in power. Nothing is gonna change except for that it&#8217;s just gonna get worse.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5080168', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Exit Stage Left</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/07/09/turley-fisa-felony/comment-page-2/#comment-5080164</link>
		<dc:creator>Exit Stage Left</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 03:07:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can someone remind me &lt;em&gt;why&lt;/em&gt; I should get off my butt and go vote for Obama in November? He ok&#039;ed this farking bill. I am taking my Obama sign down tomorrow. Fcuk him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can someone remind me <em>why</em> I should get off my butt and go vote for Obama in November? He ok&#8217;ed this farking bill. I am taking my Obama sign down tomorrow. Fcuk him.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5080164', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: lucky69</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/07/09/turley-fisa-felony/comment-page-2/#comment-5080114</link>
		<dc:creator>lucky69</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 02:35:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As terrible as it is, they would be signing their own tombstones if they did not grant immunity. That would open the telecoms up to civil suits and likely lose. However, the telecoms would then resort to appeal on a federal level and claim they had no choice because congress passed the patriot act which enabled these wiretaps which the ftm says is in violation of another law (FISA). If they did not comply with the Patriot Act, higher ups would be personally prosecuted on trumped up charges by the gov’t for sedition and their companies lose any and all federal money. See QWEST’s latest headlines. Since the patriot act was voted in by all of these congressmen, they would have to defend the repercursions of their actions when the spotlight gets turned on to them. This is c.y.a. for congress. 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As terrible as it is, they would be signing their own tombstones if they did not grant immunity. That would open the telecoms up to civil suits and likely lose. However, the telecoms would then resort to appeal on a federal level and claim they had no choice because congress passed the patriot act which enabled these wiretaps which the ftm says is in violation of another law (FISA). If they did not comply with the Patriot Act, higher ups would be personally prosecuted on trumped up charges by the gov’t for sedition and their companies lose any and all federal money. See QWEST’s latest headlines. Since the patriot act was voted in by all of these congressmen, they would have to defend the repercursions of their actions when the spotlight gets turned on to them. This is c.y.a. for congress. </p>
<p>G<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5080114', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: John H Kennedy</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/07/09/turley-fisa-felony/comment-page-2/#comment-5080074</link>
		<dc:creator>John H Kennedy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 02:09:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;THE LINK ABOVE IS BROKEN&lt;/strong&gt;  -  This works

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_john_ken_080422_to_impeach_before_no.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;To Impeach before Nov 4, Do Something Different, Quickly!&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>THE LINK ABOVE IS BROKEN</strong>  &#8211;  This works</p>
<p><a href="http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_john_ken_080422_to_impeach_before_no.htm" rel="nofollow"><strong>To Impeach before Nov 4, Do Something Different, Quickly!</strong></a><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5080074', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: John H Kennedy</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/07/09/turley-fisa-felony/comment-page-2/#comment-5080070</link>
		<dc:creator>John H Kennedy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 02:07:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_john_ken_080422_to_impeach_before_no.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;To Impeach before Nov 4, Do Something Different, Quickly!&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  

&lt;strong&gt;The only way to force My Cowardly Democratic Congressmen to hold Impeachment Hearings or have the slightest respect for their oath or Our Constitution  

Is To Do Negative Campaigning Against Them.

The Democrats will win control of both houses of Congress again and the presidency.  

The loss of a few Congressmen over their failure to support impeachment hearings will strengthen our hand with the next Congress and might help us get hearings before November.

Our Congressmen only care about getting re-elected.  Get between them and their constituents.  

We can make them listen but we will have to un-elect a few of them first.

John H Kennedy, Denver CO, 43 yr Democratic voter, Obama delegate to our county convention and organizer of 
Impeach Colorado Coalition

Time to get mad people.....

..

&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_john_ken_080422_to_impeach_before_no.htm" rel="nofollow"><strong>To Impeach before Nov 4, Do Something Different, Quickly!</strong></a>  </p>
<p><strong>The only way to force My Cowardly Democratic Congressmen to hold Impeachment Hearings or have the slightest respect for their oath or Our Constitution  </p>
<p>Is To Do Negative Campaigning Against Them.</p>
<p>The Democrats will win control of both houses of Congress again and the presidency.  </p>
<p>The loss of a few Congressmen over their failure to support impeachment hearings will strengthen our hand with the next Congress and might help us get hearings before November.</p>
<p>Our Congressmen only care about getting re-elected.  Get between them and their constituents.  </p>
<p>We can make them listen but we will have to un-elect a few of them first.</p>
<p>John H Kennedy, Denver CO, 43 yr Democratic voter, Obama delegate to our county convention and organizer of<br />
Impeach Colorado Coalition</p>
<p>Time to get mad people&#8230;..</p>
<p>..</p>
<p></strong><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5080070', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: IBTunion4obama</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/07/09/turley-fisa-felony/comment-page-2/#comment-5079798</link>
		<dc:creator>IBTunion4obama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 23:17:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, but Congress will do nothing to hold them accountable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, but Congress will do nothing to hold them accountable.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5079798', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Jackie Morgan</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/07/09/turley-fisa-felony/comment-page-2/#comment-5079722</link>
		<dc:creator>Jackie Morgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 22:47:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Bush has acknowledged that he reauthorized his illegal wiretapping program “more than 30 times since the September the 11th attacks.”
&lt;/blockquote&gt;


And &lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2007/10/qwest-ceo-not-a.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;before 9/11, Bush was breaking the law&lt;/a&gt;, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Bush has acknowledged that he reauthorized his illegal wiretapping program “more than 30 times since the September the 11th attacks.”
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<p>And <a href="http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2007/10/qwest-ceo-not-a.html" rel="nofollow">before 9/11, Bush was breaking the law</a>, too.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5079722', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: sklo</title>
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		<dc:creator>sklo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 22:42:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>haha</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>haha<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5079712', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: curious</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/07/09/turley-fisa-felony/comment-page-2/#comment-5079662</link>
		<dc:creator>curious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 22:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fact is a great many of us do care. It is simply that most that don&#039;t are in Congress and the Senate. 

This criminal administration is aided and abetted by the Democrats. They have been since the beginning of this regime been willingly complicit in all that has happened. None of this breaking the law and subverting the Constitution could have taken place without the help and cowardice of these legislators. Never has any dictator of any country been so fortunate in it&#039;s so called opposition. Bush has been very fortunate because as he once said.&quot;the constitution is just a goddam piece of paper.&quot;  And what do you think?  The Congress and Senate agree.

The Democrats hope and believe that all this has taken place so far from November that the collective amnesia will be there. And usually they would be right. Americans are shockingly apathetic and ill informed. And in an age of nothing but sound bites, with no free press to prod the recollections of Americans, it may be that way again.

The cynicism and disregard for anything approaching accountability by either the administration or the Democrats does make me wonder. Just what backroom deals were made last election?  Just what did all that illegal spying uncover with the Democrats themselves?  What did the administration learn regarding the business or personal lives of the Democrats that make them so vulnerable?  The things we have seen for the last eight years do NOT make this a paranoid question.

We need to get new Democrats in office. Whatever secrets they may be hiding will still be there no matter if Obama is in or not. They can still be pressured into voting as Republicans.
Other then a handful of Congress or Senate, these are the most unprincipled, cowardly legislators imaginable. They are violators of the oath they took and the Constitution they swore to uphold.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fact is a great many of us do care. It is simply that most that don&#8217;t are in Congress and the Senate. </p>
<p>This criminal administration is aided and abetted by the Democrats. They have been since the beginning of this regime been willingly complicit in all that has happened. None of this breaking the law and subverting the Constitution could have taken place without the help and cowardice of these legislators. Never has any dictator of any country been so fortunate in it&#8217;s so called opposition. Bush has been very fortunate because as he once said.&#8221;the constitution is just a goddam piece of paper.&#8221;  And what do you think?  The Congress and Senate agree.</p>
<p>The Democrats hope and believe that all this has taken place so far from November that the collective amnesia will be there. And usually they would be right. Americans are shockingly apathetic and ill informed. And in an age of nothing but sound bites, with no free press to prod the recollections of Americans, it may be that way again.</p>
<p>The cynicism and disregard for anything approaching accountability by either the administration or the Democrats does make me wonder. Just what backroom deals were made last election?  Just what did all that illegal spying uncover with the Democrats themselves?  What did the administration learn regarding the business or personal lives of the Democrats that make them so vulnerable?  The things we have seen for the last eight years do NOT make this a paranoid question.</p>
<p>We need to get new Democrats in office. Whatever secrets they may be hiding will still be there no matter if Obama is in or not. They can still be pressured into voting as Republicans.<br />
Other then a handful of Congress or Senate, these are the most unprincipled, cowardly legislators imaginable. They are violators of the oath they took and the Constitution they swore to uphold.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5079662', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: john.marklund</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/07/09/turley-fisa-felony/comment-page-2/#comment-5079446</link>
		<dc:creator>john.marklund</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 21:24:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This kind of stuff just makes me so mad!! What&#039;s worse is that this is the least of his &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.1nova.com/fixamerica/2008/06/22/bush-lets-invade-iraq/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;crimes&lt;/a&gt;.

At this point I&#039;m torn about who to vote for, the successor to the Evil, or the ones who have let the Evil get away with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This kind of stuff just makes me so mad!! What&#8217;s worse is that this is the least of his <a href="http://www.1nova.com/fixamerica/2008/06/22/bush-lets-invade-iraq/" rel="nofollow">crimes</a>.</p>
<p>At this point I&#8217;m torn about who to vote for, the successor to the Evil, or the ones who have let the Evil get away with it.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5079446', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: gitrdone</title>
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		<dc:creator>gitrdone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 20:19:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So if a corporation is considered a person by law, then how can it be legal for persons to spy on other persons?

I mean, me your average Joe out there, can&#039;t just go and place a glass against your house window....I will obviously have the cops called on me and charged for numerous felonies.

Sooooo, why are corporations allowed to do this???

Sooo, let me this...Republicans love the notion of private property...but not when it applies to corporations now?

Real conservatives would never support this bill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So if a corporation is considered a person by law, then how can it be legal for persons to spy on other persons?</p>
<p>I mean, me your average Joe out there, can&#8217;t just go and place a glass against your house window&#8230;.I will obviously have the cops called on me and charged for numerous felonies.</p>
<p>Sooooo, why are corporations allowed to do this???</p>
<p>Sooo, let me this&#8230;Republicans love the notion of private property&#8230;but not when it applies to corporations now?</p>
<p>Real conservatives would never support this bill.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5079174', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Linus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Linus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 19:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Re #33 - stewarjt says: &quot;If there is any justice, President Dinkledonk will suffer greatly in this life or after.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I think you meant, &quot;If there is any justice, President Dinkledonk will suffer greatly in this life &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;and&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; after.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Re #33 &#8211; stewarjt says: &#8220;If there is any justice, President Dinkledonk will suffer greatly in this life or after.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>I think you meant, &#8220;If there is any justice, President Dinkledonk will suffer greatly in this life <strong><em>and</em></strong> after.&#8221;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5079026', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: OneCitizen</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/07/09/turley-fisa-felony/comment-page-2/#comment-5078770</link>
		<dc:creator>OneCitizen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 18:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For Senator John D. Rockefeller IV, it&#039;s far more serious than merely &quot;inconvenient&quot; if Turley&#039;s right and the wiretapping was a felony. His little &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/19/rockefeller-letter/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;handwritten lovenote to Dick Cheney&lt;/a&gt; proves that he was complicit in that felony around mid-July, 2003.

If they prosecute Bush for torture (&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/LawPolitics/story?id=4635175&amp;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;as he&#039;s admitted&lt;/a&gt;), they&#039;ll have to prosecute Rockefeller for that as well,&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/12/08/AR2007120801664_pf.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; because he was fully briefed as early as 2002&lt;/a&gt; and not only kept his mouth shut, Rockefeller actually &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.llrx.com/extras/militarycommissions.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;was one of only 12 Democrats in the Senate to revoke habeas corpus and make torture legal&lt;/a&gt;!

He was on the Senate Select Oversight Committee for defense intelligence when the full, un-redacted, pre-Iraq invasion National Intelligence Estimate was made available him, and to only a select few in congress. That assessment made it abundantly clear that Hussein&#039;s weapons capabilities were nowhere near what the White House advertised. He could have put the brakes on the Iraq war had he but chosen to speak out, but instead he voted to let Cheney fire up the most poweful war machine on earth against a tiger that was essentially toothless. &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.fas.org/irp/congress/2008_cr/rock060508.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;His platitudes on the floor of the Senate regarding that NIE rang quite hollow back in June.&lt;/a&gt;

John D. Rockefeller IV is my senator, as is Robert C. Byrd (D-WV). Only one of them will vote to grant retroactive immunity to the telecoms and help Bush dodge prosecution for his felonious activity. When he does, he will violate his oath of office to protect and defend my constitutional rights in order to cover for his own complicity in the cover up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For Senator John D. Rockefeller IV, it&#8217;s far more serious than merely &#8220;inconvenient&#8221; if Turley&#8217;s right and the wiretapping was a felony. His little <a HREF="http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/19/rockefeller-letter/" rel="nofollow">handwritten lovenote to Dick Cheney</a> proves that he was complicit in that felony around mid-July, 2003.</p>
<p>If they prosecute Bush for torture (<a HREF="http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/LawPolitics/story?id=4635175&amp;" rel="nofollow">as he&#8217;s admitted</a>), they&#8217;ll have to prosecute Rockefeller for that as well,<a HREF="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/12/08/AR2007120801664_pf.html" rel="nofollow"> because he was fully briefed as early as 2002</a> and not only kept his mouth shut, Rockefeller actually <a HREF="http://www.llrx.com/extras/militarycommissions.htm" rel="nofollow">was one of only 12 Democrats in the Senate to revoke habeas corpus and make torture legal</a>!</p>
<p>He was on the Senate Select Oversight Committee for defense intelligence when the full, un-redacted, pre-Iraq invasion National Intelligence Estimate was made available him, and to only a select few in congress. That assessment made it abundantly clear that Hussein&#8217;s weapons capabilities were nowhere near what the White House advertised. He could have put the brakes on the Iraq war had he but chosen to speak out, but instead he voted to let Cheney fire up the most poweful war machine on earth against a tiger that was essentially toothless. <a HREF="http://www.fas.org/irp/congress/2008_cr/rock060508.html" rel="nofollow">His platitudes on the floor of the Senate regarding that NIE rang quite hollow back in June.</a></p>
<p>John D. Rockefeller IV is my senator, as is Robert C. Byrd (D-WV). Only one of them will vote to grant retroactive immunity to the telecoms and help Bush dodge prosecution for his felonious activity. When he does, he will violate his oath of office to protect and defend my constitutional rights in order to cover for his own complicity in the cover up.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5078770', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: nofltwlt</title>
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		<dc:creator>nofltwlt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 17:38:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My vote in the 2008 general election will go only to those who did NOT support FISA immunity for telecoms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My vote in the 2008 general election will go only to those who did NOT support FISA immunity for telecoms.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5078652', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Witch1</title>
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		<dc:creator>Witch1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 17:33:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#45 Very good post, Thank you for posting..May I just add, it may not matter who we put in office at this point..Granted the rep&#039;s are the worst but, dare I mention we now have dem&#039;s that are block and tackler&#039;s for the reich wing,,,,,The cancer both partie&#039;s are infected with goe&#039;s way beyond our worst nightmare&#039;s, indeed we only have 30% in both houses that might be counted on...The recent FISA mess kind of proove&#039;s that point...Never mind the fact they claim to be Dem&#039;s, they are not...Many proved today they are traitor&#039;s to our country and have now become enemies of the domestic type to our constitution...Blessings</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#45 Very good post, Thank you for posting..May I just add, it may not matter who we put in office at this point..Granted the rep&#8217;s are the worst but, dare I mention we now have dem&#8217;s that are block and tackler&#8217;s for the reich wing,,,,,The cancer both partie&#8217;s are infected with goe&#8217;s way beyond our worst nightmare&#8217;s, indeed we only have 30% in both houses that might be counted on&#8230;The recent FISA mess kind of proove&#8217;s that point&#8230;Never mind the fact they claim to be Dem&#8217;s, they are not&#8230;Many proved today they are traitor&#8217;s to our country and have now become enemies of the domestic type to our constitution&#8230;Blessings<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5078642', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: onoclea</title>
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		<dc:creator>onoclea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 17:20:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another link to evidence wiretapping began before 9/11.

http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2007/10/qwest-ceo-not-a.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another link to evidence wiretapping began before 9/11.</p>
<p><a href="http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2007/10/qwest-ceo-not-a.html" rel="nofollow">http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2007/10/qwest-ceo-not-a.html</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5078608', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Doc Rock</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doc Rock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 17:10:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t worry, the &quot;Get Out of Jail Free&quot; card is about to be turned up by our &quot;Democratically Controlled&quot; Congress.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t worry, the &#8220;Get Out of Jail Free&#8221; card is about to be turned up by our &#8220;Democratically Controlled&#8221; Congress.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5078586', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: JMOHR</title>
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		<dc:creator>JMOHR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 16:21:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Republicans have played a very clever game of chicken.  The Democrats have failed to respond with our constitution, democracy and liberties forfeited in response.

&lt;em&gt;Do not blame this on the Democrats being in bed with the corporations.&lt;/em&gt;  Turley was right.  The President&#039;s actions are an inconvenient truth which would lead to nothing less than impeachment and criminal charges. It was something impossible to do while the Republicans were in power.  The Democratic leadership sold the option away during the &#039;06 elections.  In one sense I can understand the election tactic.  The Republicans did an effective job of selling that a vote for Democrats would cause impeachment.  The full extent of the administration&#039;s malfesance was not on display.

&lt;em&gt;The entire Bush administration has been predicated on secrecy and confrontation.&lt;/em&gt;  From the beginning, the Bush administration has cloaked its actions in secrecy.  When its inappropriate actions became visible, they were more than willing to stiff arm the system and Congress.  They understand the disruption and destruction that would be wrought by an impeachment.  They invite it safe in the assumption that the Democrats would not risk the destruction and division of this nation over such an impeachment.  

&lt;em&gt;Impeachment is the only option to save our democracy. &lt;/em&gt;  There really is no choice now.  We cannot avoid the confrontation and battle.  This really has become about whether we live in a democracy or an authoritarian society governed by a strong president under a one party system.  There is no other way of phrasing our dilemma.  We fought back the Republicans with Nixon.  However, with Iran Contra, the Democrats avoided confrontation to preserve the republic.  We only emboldened the enemies of democracy.  A small scandal under Reagan has become a way of doing business under Bush.  The precedent has been set under two presidencies.  Unless there are serious repurcussions, it will only continue with the next Republican elected.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Republicans have played a very clever game of chicken.  The Democrats have failed to respond with our constitution, democracy and liberties forfeited in response.</p>
<p><em>Do not blame this on the Democrats being in bed with the corporations.</em>  Turley was right.  The President&#8217;s actions are an inconvenient truth which would lead to nothing less than impeachment and criminal charges. It was something impossible to do while the Republicans were in power.  The Democratic leadership sold the option away during the &#8216;06 elections.  In one sense I can understand the election tactic.  The Republicans did an effective job of selling that a vote for Democrats would cause impeachment.  The full extent of the administration&#8217;s malfesance was not on display.</p>
<p><em>The entire Bush administration has been predicated on secrecy and confrontation.</em>  From the beginning, the Bush administration has cloaked its actions in secrecy.  When its inappropriate actions became visible, they were more than willing to stiff arm the system and Congress.  They understand the disruption and destruction that would be wrought by an impeachment.  They invite it safe in the assumption that the Democrats would not risk the destruction and division of this nation over such an impeachment.  </p>
<p><em>Impeachment is the only option to save our democracy. </em>  There really is no choice now.  We cannot avoid the confrontation and battle.  This really has become about whether we live in a democracy or an authoritarian society governed by a strong president under a one party system.  There is no other way of phrasing our dilemma.  We fought back the Republicans with Nixon.  However, with Iran Contra, the Democrats avoided confrontation to preserve the republic.  We only emboldened the enemies of democracy.  A small scandal under Reagan has become a way of doing business under Bush.  The precedent has been set under two presidencies.  Unless there are serious repurcussions, it will only continue with the next Republican elected.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5078494', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Fred</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 16:20:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;McCain: It’s ‘Ambiguous’ Whether Bush’s Warrantless Wiretapping Program Was Illegal, ‘Let’s Move Forward’&lt;/blockquote&gt; 


Definitions of ambiguous at Dictionary.com. ... Ambiguous indicates the presence of two or more possible meanings

What would the second possible meaning be?  Of course mccmovealong wants this to be a non-issue.....how can it possibly be explained?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>McCain: It’s ‘Ambiguous’ Whether Bush’s Warrantless Wiretapping Program Was Illegal, ‘Let’s Move Forward’</p></blockquote>
<p>Definitions of ambiguous at Dictionary.com. &#8230; Ambiguous indicates the presence of two or more possible meanings</p>
<p>What would the second possible meaning be?  Of course mccmovealong wants this to be a non-issue&#8230;..how can it possibly be explained?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5078490', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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