Your ignoring that the statistic you gave about this war was wrong, you used a statistic from “WELL BEFORE” the war.

You are obviously bent on making the point that many died and how sad it is (we all agree with that by the way), but your not willing to where you are wrong.
You are unwilling to admit that the world is much more secure now than before, due to the war.
You are unwilling to ackowledge the happiness and freedom that many in Iraq are experiencing.

I agree that it is a very very sad reality to know that innocent people died and or are dying due to the war.
BUT THIS WAR, is known to have a higher count of innocent lies due to the sick, chicken shit enemy who dresses and acts like a civilian.

Have you ever read stats on how many die in New York or Los Angeles every month?
How about the highway deaths every year?

I am done with this attempt to bring the truth the table if you can’t aknowledge, you were wrong and that the this war is unlike any before because of how terrorist intermingle with the civilians, kill their own and terrorize them so that they are afraid to help the US, ect……

Good day,

igit

You never responded to how wrong you were on the “1 out of 8 children bit”.

I have explained it very clearly to you TWICE. I am not wrong. YOU are the one who said it was waaayyyyy off.

You say the people here are “of Satan”. That really says a lot about where you are coming from.

There was harm done to the Iraqi people by Saddam, but you don’t seem to realize that the Iraqi people are far far worse after our illegal and immoral invasion than they were under Saddam. Twenty-five per cent of the people are either dead or refugees.

There are also the 4,118 American deaths; 35,000 badly injured; and the $3 TRILLION bill.

So, I suggest praying for those who you believe are in trouble.

igit

Sorry Arn Gunnutes, there is a God and He aint you!!!

LOL!

igit

By the way, I admit that I am not as knowledgable as some in the political arena, but that don’t mean that I am ignorant about everything and it also don’t mean that I can’t get the answers when I need them.

I am ready to for a challenge :-)

Greg Hill

He threw people off roof tops to the concrete ground, he cut babies from pregnant women, he tested chemicals on his own people.

I am accused of being ignorant, but I see nobody refuting my points. Nor did I find any truth in the points made by you guys.

This group is in serious need of help. You are all a bunch of narrow minded, block head idiots who live and feed off hate which is of Satan. Laugh if you like but, I will pray for you guys because I know Hell is someplace none of us want to end up.

Keith, I am well aware of that we all are going to die, I never had any other ideas about it, I believe my children will be very sad when I die (of course if they are fortunate enough to still alive).

Keith, you say you don’t mean to side with Saddam but in fact you are.
You sound like one of these Anti-Americans.

You never responded to how wrong you were on the “1 out of 8 children bit”.

Let see some character here, at least from you.

That is if I stick around long enough to see it.

Lets all lighten up just for good ‘ol Tony Snow because one thing he had was a great sense of humor.

I got a feeling, allot of people in this group are either jealous of him or envy him, that is why there is so much negative talk about him. He was actually able to pick the Republicans up from the trouble they were in (still are in a bit of trouble too), the republicans are off track, Bush went soft and McCain is soft, so we won’t be seeing much of what we want anyways.

But Obama is a phlip phlopin, liberal, with an extreme left agenda.

By the way Keith, I didn’t come here to make friends, so why do I have to work on relationships?

Maybe it is you who is hung up on your mortality :-)

Good day,

igit

You are also quite ignorant just like ingoditrust…

Are you proud to be so phucking dumb…really, I’m curious?

You are ignorant beyond belief…and that’s a big help to the RePugniScums and Christianistas…you know, the unholy monopoly on Jebus The RePugniScum!!

ingoditrust Says:
The US is not ran by a maniac (contrary to what this group believes).

Show me anyone in the last century that has tortured and murdered the quantities equal to what Saddam did of his own people?

The UN is a riddled with corruption.

Tell me, do you believe there is ever a need for war???
If not your whacked and lets end this now. Especially if you live in the US which wouldn’t be if it were not for war.

I say if you don’t like America then get the heck out of here. The truth is that it is the best place in the world to live, with or without your choice of president or party.

talk about a whacked out individual. You will say anything to try to validate your phony talking points. Your ignorance is oozing in each of your posts.

indyjones Says:
The amount of hate here is mindblowing. I especially like the “tact” used by those who extend their condolences ONLY to his children.

I hope you all step back and assess your actions here. It is downright shameful. I saw nothing even close to this ort of hatred (from the right) when Ted Kennedy was diagnosed.

Shameful.

It pales in comparison to the right. If you heard nothing then it’s because you are willfully ignorant.

You shame us for being disrespectful of a man with no integrity who did more harm in life than he did good but you have nothing but distain for real Americans like Ted Kennedy.

Thanks for playing, please try again.

I hope you all step back and assess your actions here. It is downright shameful. I saw nothing even close to this ort of hatred (from the right) when Ted Kennedy was diagnosed.

Shameful.

Do you think there’s going to be a tear fest when you go?
There may be a few, but they won’t last long, and then it’ll be just like you were never here.
As much as a lot of people like to think so, you are not special, neither was T. Snow.
Tomorrow could be your last day, get used to the idea.

July 14th, 2008 at 5:53 am
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You seriously need to work on relationships.

Ever heard of Hitler? Ever heard of Stalin? Ever heard of the 3.2 million Vietnamese we killed needlessly? The 1.2 million Iraqis we killed needlessly? The 200,000 in Central and South America we killed needlessly? Weren’t most of the Iraqis killed by Saddam because they were siding with Iran during the Iran-Iraq War or otherwise trying to overthrow his government. Don’t mean to be siding with Saddam, but he was doing nothing in March 2003. The famous 1988 gassing of the Kurds occured when they were siding with Iran during the war, Reagan and GHWB were supplying Saddam, and the US lied and said Iran gassed them. He had no WMD in 2003. He was a threat to noone and he was the enemy of al Qaeda.

I don’t have any false understanding of the 1 in eight children. You are the one who said it was waaayyyyy off. It was due to US military actions and sanctions in Gulf War I, GWII, and in between the two. Save The Children said 37% of it was due to the 2003 invasion and occupation. When you are the occupier—you are responsible for what happens in the country. It did not improve when we took over for Saddam, it greatly worsened. Iraq is now the #2 failed state in the world. Behind only Sudan.

I say if you don’t like America then get the heck out of here.

Why don’t you get the heck out of my country?

There are necessary wars and the invasion and occupation of Iraq certainly was not one of them. Conservative Americans were opposed to the Revolution—they sided with the British. Our founding fathers were radical leftists.

Show me anyone in the last century that has tortured and murdered the quantities equal to what Saddam did of his own people?

Regarding the Bible, I know that Christ changed “some” of the old testament, but keep in mind, He intensified much of the 10 commandments, He did say, that it is “not” murder to kill in defence your property / yourself or the innocent.

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The CIA put Saddam in power in the 60’s. Reagan and GHWB strongly aided him. Carter had sanctions against him.
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Haven’t studied this but lets say it is true. Nobody knows what tomorrow will bring. So forget this part.

The UN is a riddled with corruption.

What about your false understanding of the 1 out of 8 children, do you stand corrected?

Tell me, do you believe there is ever a need for war???
If not your whacked and lets end this now. Especially if you live in the US which wouldn’t be if it were not for war.

I say if you don’t like America then get the heck out of here. The truth is that it is the best place in the world to live, with or without your choice of president or party.

Good night,

igit

The report blamed the horrific decline in infant and child health since the invasion on the steadily worsening living conditions for the Iraqi population as a whole, including “electricity shortages, insufficient clean water, deteriorating health services and soaring inflation.”

This overall destruction of basic social infrastructure unleashed by the US invasion and occupation has been translated into a horrendous decline in child health. “Only 35 percent of Iraqi children are fully immunized, and more than one-fifth (21 percent) are severely or moderately stunted” as a result of malnutrition, the study found.

The statistics compiled by Save the Children indicate that in 1990 the mortality rate for children under five in Iraq stood at 50 for every 1,000 live births—among the best outcomes reported for the entire Arab world at the time. In 2005, the figure was 125 per 1,000 live births—roughly equivalent to the figures recorded in countries like Malawi, Mauritania, Uganda and Haiti.

While some countries—all with one exception in Africa—have higher death rates than Iraq, none came even near the rate of increase in infant mortality recorded by the US-occupied country

The destruction of the conditions and very lives of Iraqi children began well before US troops invaded the country in 2003. The 1990-1991 Gulf War saw more than 90,000 tons of US bombs and missiles dropped on Iraq, smashing much of its essential infrastructure, including power plants and water and sanitation systems and creating the conditions for a public health disaster.

The war was followed by a decade of punishing sanctions that deprived Iraqi children and the population as a whole of essential medical supplies and adequate nutrition. Even chlorine, needed to purify water, was embargoed, depriving infants and small children of a clean water supply and condemning many to death.

According to figures reported by the Iraqi government, some 900,000 children have been left orphans by the carnage that has swept Iraq since the US invasion of 2003. It is estimated that at the present levels of violence, some 400 children are left orphaned every day in the country.

The Iraqi Ministry of Education, meanwhile, estimates that barely 30 percent the country’s 3.5 million elementary school children are attending classes, a sharp decline from 75 percent last year. A study sponsored by the World Health Organization in the Iraqi city of Mosul, found fully 30 percent of school children surveyed suffering from posttraumatic stress disorder.

Significantly, the other country that is presently occupied by the US military and remains the scene of a bitter counterinsurgency war—Afghanistan—ranks as the second worst in the world in terms of its infant mortality rate, with 257 deaths for every 1,000 live births. In other words, more than one out of four Afghan children dies before the age of five. On average, every Afghan mother sees two of her children die as infants, while one in six women die in childbirth.

According to the Save the Children study, 40 percent of Afghan children are malnourished and less than half have access to safe water. The report also notes that, while “1 child in 100,000 in the United States dies of pneumonia each year, roughly 1 in 15” dies of the disease in Afghanistan.

I have listened to many sides for many decades. Progressives are always criticized by conservatives for being open-minded. You are harmful to the USA.

At the time of the March 2003 invasion, the US had 24,000 TONS of VX, sarin, and mustard agents. Anniston Alabama had 77,000 rockets filled with these agents.

The CIA put Saddam in power in the 60’s. Reagan and GHWB strongly aided him. Carter had sanctions against him.

I said you did not follow the teachings of Jesus. I know you might very well agree with some OT verse advocating stoning to death for not being a virgin. I was afraid you might agree with The Apocalypse and hope W’s actions will lead to it.

Your beliefs and Tony’s and W’s are not fine when they lead to the deaths of over a million innocents.