McCain spokesperson lies: Katrina and Rita ‘didn’t spill a drop’ of oil.
McCain spokesperson lies: Katrina and Rita ‘didn’t spill a drop’ of oil.
This afternoon, Nancy Pfotenhauer, senior energy adviser to Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) and a lobbyist for Koch Industries, lied to MSNBC’s David Schuster, claiming, “We withstood Hurricanes Rita and Katrina and didn’t spill a drop.” She said:
When Senator McCain opposed lifting the ban in the past, it was because there were concerns about environmental capability. Like, could we do this and still maintain a pristine environmental um uh climate and and area around the drilling? And basically, what we’ve seen is the technology has progressed to the point where we could do that. We withstood Hurricanes Rita and Katrina and didn’t spill a drop.
Watch it:
Pfotenhauer — who spent her career in Washington defending the right-wing polluter Koch Industries before joining the McCain campaign — is repeating a popular right-wing lie. The hurricanes, unsurprisingly, caused 124 offshore spills and hundreds more onshore. Like Sen. McCain (R-AZ), Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-CA), Gov. Bobby Jindal (R-LA), Interior Secretary Dirk Kempthorne, Mike Huckabee, George Will, and Bill O’Reilly, Nancy Pfotenhauer is lying.
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July 14th, 2008 at 9:56 pmApparently, there’s nothing good on TV tonight at Mr. Pee’s house.
July 14th, 2008 at 10:00 pmRock’em Sock’em Trolls don’t realize they’re fighting their own brethren!
Hilarious!
July 14th, 2008 at 10:07 pmI already started flagging ‘em, barfly.
July 14th, 2008 at 10:08 pmRock’em Sock’em scrotbots!
July 14th, 2008 at 10:09 pmfluffy Says:
barfly,
Weren’t you the person that accused me of living in the same head with these people?
You’re both wingnuts – that’s what’s so hilarious!
Aw, Jane it’s better than watching reruns.
July 14th, 2008 at 10:10 pmI guess mentioning McCain & Oil in the same sentence brings out all the trolls.
July 14th, 2008 at 10:10 pmNo, I am, but you sure convinced me otherwise with your recent comments- Rock ‘em Sock’em scrotbot!
July 14th, 2008 at 10:11 pmBeing an empathetic sort, whenever Mr. pee pops up with a sock on his hand, pretending to be an infantile “Progressive”, I always wonder what kind of life must he lead, that its highlight is concocting log-in names with various forms of “Progress” in them and then spraying TP threads with the blog equivalent of blackening the teeth on models in bus stop posters.
Do you think his mom likes him?
July 14th, 2008 at 10:13 pmGood to see you barfly, it looks like we have a serious infestation problem tonight. I agree it is better than watching TV.
July 14th, 2008 at 10:14 pmFluffy, are you the more reasonable “one”? Do you keep the “others” safe?
July 14th, 2008 at 10:14 pmBut hey, I can deal with wingnut.
You’d better pedal faster, ’cause Mr. P is eating your lunch…
July 14th, 2008 at 10:14 pmYo’ Freeb. And no commercials!
July 14th, 2008 at 10:15 pmSorry, didn’t mean to spoil your fun, barfly. I’ll ignore the rest, enjoy yourself! :D
July 14th, 2008 at 10:16 pmIf she honestly did not know that there were a lot of oil spills caused by the hurricanes, then she is simply repeating a lie. But if she knew ahead of time that this was false, then she was lying. One is slightly forgiveable, the other isn’t at all.
July 14th, 2008 at 10:16 pmI hope somebody is getting some precious McPoints(tm) for their efforts here; otherwise what, really, would be the point?
July 14th, 2008 at 10:16 pmDo the dance, scrotbots, do the dance…
July 14th, 2008 at 10:17 pmAnd Uncle Mo drops from the rafters…
July 14th, 2008 at 10:17 pmI’ve never before witnessed this particular condition.
Is it common for the personalities to cycle through so quickly, from one to the next?
July 14th, 2008 at 10:17 pmIs this the bus stop to Crazytown? Looks like standing room only.
July 14th, 2008 at 10:19 pmWhy doesn’t the media attack these liars as soon as they spout their lies? Scared? Too ignorant? Stupid? In any case, the ‘journalists’ should be ashamed for their lack of intelligent questioning.
July 14th, 2008 at 10:19 pmBarfly, this must be the second string.
July 14th, 2008 at 10:20 pmMaybe I don’t understand the program.
Is it possible that birdsh!t like this could be rewarded with points towards a McCain ‘08 beer cooler?
July 14th, 2008 at 10:20 pmDo you think Mr. Pee knows pro wrestling is fake?
July 14th, 2008 at 10:21 pm#31 5th Estate Says:
I hope somebody is getting some precious McPoints(tm) for their efforts here; otherwise what, really, would be the point?
Maybe the rates went up to 15 cents a post. :)
July 14th, 2008 at 10:21 pmBarfly, this must be the second string.
But… they’re running the ball in the wrong direction!
July 14th, 2008 at 10:21 pmWouldn’t the lack of media attack indicate that perhaps, there really weren’t any major spills and the media knows that it doesn’t really have a credible leg to stand on if they go on the offensive?
No.
July 14th, 2008 at 10:24 pmI can only imagine the P-twins here are upset because TP is calling the object of their oily stalking tendencies Ms. Pfotenhauer a liar instead of a goddess.
July 14th, 2008 at 10:24 pm#21 ralph the wonder llama Says:
Do you think his mom likes him?
The poor woman is probably wondering where she went wrong…
July 14th, 2008 at 10:24 pmRalph, I don’t know, I admit it just might be a good ol’ fashion scrotbot fustercluck; highly entertaining, whatever it is.
July 14th, 2008 at 10:25 pmWouldn’t the lack of media attack indicate that perhaps, there really weren’t any major spills and the media knows that it doesn’t really have a credible leg to stand on if they go on the offensive?
The satellite photos of the oil spills suggest otherwise.
July 14th, 2008 at 10:25 pmGod Bless John McCain. Down with Barrack Husein Ovama the Muslim American.
July 14th, 2008 at 10:26 pm#38 barfly Says:
Is this the bus stop to Crazytown? Looks like standing room only.
There must be a full moon, or some of them went off their medication tonight.
July 14th, 2008 at 10:28 pmNuke, your the bomb! Such a card!
July 14th, 2008 at 10:29 pm5th Estate Says:
I can only imagine the P-twins here are upset because TP is calling the object of their oily stalking tendencies Ms. Pfotenhauer a liar instead of a goddess.
They’re dissing Nancy!
P-twins power… ACTIVATE!
Shape of… Dick Cheney’s colon!
Form of… Cindy McCain’s vibrator!
July 14th, 2008 at 10:29 pmFrom: Countdown, for Monday June 30, 2008
July 14th, 2008 at 10:30 pm
#31 5th Estate Says:
I hope somebody is getting some precious McPoints(tm) for their efforts here; otherwise what, really, would be the point?
# 44 ‘Freb’ Says: Maybe the rates went up to 15 cents a post. :)
I’m pretty sure it’s still just points that can eventually be redeemed for a McCain (19)’08 individual golf-ball cosy (ball not included).
July 14th, 2008 at 10:31 pm#45 Barfly, this must be the second string.
But… they’re running the ball in the wrong direction!
We can’t expect high quality trolls with such a low pay scale. I’m just waiting for one of them to mention Nader. That seems to be the new talking point for all of them.
July 14th, 2008 at 10:31 pmIf anyone would like to read the Mineral Management Service report referenced in my previous post, it can be found here.
Now, can we please stop denying there were any oil spills at all?
July 14th, 2008 at 10:34 pmThanks, Dr. Hussein Matt. Your Kung Fu is superior. :)
July 14th, 2008 at 10:37 pmbarfly Says:
5th Estate Says:
I can only imagine the P-twins here are upset because TP is calling the object of their oily stalking tendencies Ms. Pfotenhauer a liar instead of a goddess.
#62 barfly: They’re dissing Nancy!
P-twins power… ACTIVATE!
Shape of… Dick Cheney’s colon!
Form of… Cindy McCain’s vibrator!
HURRY! We must fight the envirprogressotronzord in a conveniently located spot of wasteland or perhaps an empty multi-storey parking lot!
July 14th, 2008 at 10:37 pmI will concede that you’ve found ONE major spill from two major hurricanes. Congratulations. Is that supposed to change anyone’s opinion about the safety of offshore drilling?
You’re just spinning your wheels, now. Try backing up.
July 14th, 2008 at 10:39 pmIf “Progress is Winning‘ there’s seems little point in discussing it.
July 14th, 2008 at 10:41 pmIt’s an obvious infestation. Coordinated, no doubt, by the McCain campaign, or the RNC or the Bush administration. Flagged every single one. They’ve derailed the string folks…ignore these jerks!
Back to the TOPIC: I heard some guy from something called “Environmental and Energy Journal” discussing this on C-Span, and he also stated the “no oil spills” B.S. about Katrina and Rita. This looks like a BIG propaganda push to me.
July 14th, 2008 at 10:41 pmLefties, listen up and listen good: Correlation IS NOT “causation”
If only you’d mentioned that before we invaded Iraq.
Now you tell us!
July 14th, 2008 at 10:42 pmHey! Mr. Pee is back! I guess he ran out of sockpuppet names.
Ah, well, when you’ve got to register 1500 accounts, you can’t be too selective on what ya call ‘em.
July 14th, 2008 at 10:42 pmHow much of this damage was caused by the flooding created by lax maintenance on the part of the state and local governments?
See? All you had to do is back up…
July 14th, 2008 at 10:44 pmGod Bless President George Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney. They are American heroes who have kept us safe. How dare you traitors frag the commander in chief during a time of war.
July 14th, 2008 at 10:46 pm#83 impeachcheneythenbush Says:
Back to the TOPIC: I heard some guy from something called “Environmental and Energy Journal” discussing this on C-Span, and he also stated the “no oil spills” B.S. about Katrina and Rita. This looks like a BIG propaganda push to me.
I agree. If you say something often enough, they figure some people are bound to believe it.
July 14th, 2008 at 10:48 pmSo. Mr. Pee is suggesting that 595 spills all happened accidentally at the same time as the hurricanes, and the two events had nothing to do with each other?
Fascinating. I could imagine someone proposing such a theory, but only in a cartoon universe where the most absurd physical rules apply.
Yet here we have a bonafide right-wing sockpuppet, bored because he has no friends, getting frustrated because his coordinated sockpuppet attack has degenerated into something like a cross between a kid’s birthday party with no adult supervision and a soccer game involving a bunch of six-year-olds, and his bold frontal assault is this one.
Bra-VO, Mr. Pee. I’m sure you have a bright future ahead of you when you start eighth grade in September.
July 14th, 2008 at 10:49 pmUmmm… I suppose it’s possible. Do you have any evidence to suggest that it is actual?
Or are you just throwing out some right-wing knee-jerk blamestorming in the hopes you can recover some of your lost dignity?
July 14th, 2008 at 10:52 pmAt this point, its clear fluffy is too partisan to hear the truth. He’s being willfully ignorant of the facts, and backpedaling every time he gets refuted. He’s a waste of keystrokes – unless you can construct entertaining ways of highlighting his wanton ignorance, that is.
July 14th, 2008 at 10:53 pmralph the wonder llama,
July 14th, 2008 at 10:54 pmThe oil spills was Bush’s fault. Correct. He used his magical powers to cause the spills.
The Left just attacks and offers no solutions.
July 14th, 2008 at 10:56 pmfluffy says: Do you think it possible that our Congress’s refusal to allow improvements in our refinery capacity has something to do with those breakdowns?
so what your’e saying is that a lack of brand new refineries prevents the proper maintenance of existing refineries, and that brand new refineries would have been completely hurricane-proof.
No doubt you buy a new car every time the glove-box fills up.
July 14th, 2008 at 10:56 pmHe used his magical powers to cause the spills.
The bus for Crazytown left ten minutes ago. If you wait an hour, another one will be along.
July 14th, 2008 at 10:56 pmGood point. How difficult is it to make an argument when the facts are on your side? All Dr. Hussein Matt has to do is copy-and-paste facts and actual news reports. Where’s the challenge in that?
fluffy has to create a convincing argument out of whole cloth, with nothing to work with but his imagination and prejudices.
That’s a challenge.
July 14th, 2008 at 10:56 pmMr P,
July 14th, 2008 at 10:57 pmThey will just blame Bush. He caused the hurrican with help from aliens barfly said once.
#87 fluffy Says:
How stupid are we to be trying to maintain a city that sea wants to claim anyway?
The government knew those levees were not up to spec. They did nothing to correct the problem. Consequently, Hurricane Katrina Levee Failure Victims Seek Billions from Army Corps of Engineers. All because nearly every levee was breached. The city can be maintained if the Army Corps of Engineers does their job properly.
July 14th, 2008 at 10:58 pmDo you think it possible that our Congress’s refusal to allow improvements in our refinery capacity has something to do with those breakdowns? Or is it possible that no amount of planning can completely protect an industrial facility from being destroyed?
Congress didn’t refuse to allow them to improve their refinery capacity, they simply refuised to allow them to build new ones. The oil companies shut down their refineries.
How much of this damage was caused by the flooding created by lax maintenance on the part of the state and local governments?
You mean the “lax maintenance” of the Army Corps of Engineers? The ones controlled by the federal government?
How stupid are we to be trying to maintain a city that sea wants to claim anyway?
I don’t think you understand the concept of a “port city”, and a vital one at that.
July 14th, 2008 at 10:58 pmfluffy Says:
Dr. Matt
Your copy and pasting skills are indeed monumental.
July 14th, 2008 at 10:52 pm
And your inability to comprehend what you read is deplorable.
July 14th, 2008 at 10:59 pmThe Left just attacks and offers no solutions.
Rodan just learned to cut and paste, everyone! Give him a big hand!
July 14th, 2008 at 10:59 pmWow think of what the mighty repugs did. they destroyed the people, the land and the spirit of the state. But hey, they managed to save the repugs’ oil.
Truly a stunning feat.
July 14th, 2008 at 10:59 pmI happy to see their priorities are still intact.
He caused the hurrican with help from aliens barfly said once.
Pardon; I see you wanted the bus to Liarsville, instead.
It doesn’t stop here, sorry.
July 14th, 2008 at 10:59 pmY’know, guys, we probably would never had to deal with this troll infestation if we had just kept humoring Pee on his “thinkprogresswatch” blog. Sure it was lame. But it kept him busy. Made him feel like he mattered.
Once his traffic dropped to nothing, he got bored. When Pee gets bored, we all suffer.
July 14th, 2008 at 10:59 pmWhen Pee gets bored, we all suffer.
Not as much as his dog…
July 14th, 2008 at 11:01 pm#87 fluffy Says:
How stupid are we to be trying to maintain a city that sea wants to claim anyway?
And whilst we’re on the subject, why don’t the Dutch just give it up and drown already?
July 14th, 2008 at 11:01 pmOK, P. Namestealing got you banned last time, so knock it off.
July 14th, 2008 at 11:03 pmI have to admire, in a small way, the nimbleness with which fluffy went from claiming “no oil spills” to “no MAJOR oil spills” to “the oil spills were the liberals’ fault”.
Quite breathtaking in its sense-defying acrobatics.
July 14th, 2008 at 11:04 pmP is playing his childish games again.
July 14th, 2008 at 11:05 pmOh, that poor, Pomeranian.
July 14th, 2008 at 11:05 pmIt’s awesome that all the multiple logins and posts from “folks” helps the overall numbers and popularity here at TP.
Thanks!
July 14th, 2008 at 11:05 pmHave a good night everyone.. :)
July 14th, 2008 at 11:07 pmfluffy Says:
If the old refineries are forced to compete in the market with newer, better performing refineries, then absolutely they are going to be maintained and upgraded. I don’t think anyone has said that anything is completely hurricane-proof, yet these things are frequently hit by hurricanes with little damage. These two particular hurricanes were the exception and not the rule.
Perhaps you’d like to prove this assertion?
July 14th, 2008 at 11:08 pmG’night Freeb.
From the genuine barfly.
July 14th, 2008 at 11:08 pmfluffy: If the old refineries are forced to compete in the market with newer, better performing refineries, then absolutely they are going to be maintained and upgraded.
So then Congress’s refusal to allow improvements in our refinery capacity prevented “competition” which led to low maintenance which led to breakdowns?
July 14th, 2008 at 11:08 pmSo, Pee, is Stalinism bad?
Is namejacking a form of Stalinism?
I’m sure Faiz is as curious as the rest of us to know your feelings on these crucial issues.
July 14th, 2008 at 11:11 pmUh we switched to IslamoFascistSlalinism™
Get yer facts right!
July 14th, 2008 at 11:13 pmNiiiiiice strawman, fluffster!
…Although, now that I look more closely, it appears that it’s actually a straw woman. At least, if the bra is any indication. Please, fluffy, tell me your not going to defile that poor straw woman when you’re done using it to disguise your lack of an argument…
July 14th, 2008 at 11:15 pmSo Pee, no answer on my questions?
July 14th, 2008 at 11:16 pmFluffy, Rush is calling you, needs his butt flossed again.
July 14th, 2008 at 11:20 pmMr P Says:
So. Mr. Pee is suggesting that 595 spills all happened accidentally at the same time as the hurricanes, and the two events had nothing to do with each other?
Fascinating. I could imagine someone proposing such a theory, but only in a cartoon universe where the most absurd physical rules apply.
Yet here we have a bonafide right-wing sockpuppet, bored because he has no friends, getting frustrated because his coordinated sockpuppet attack has degenerated into something like a cross between a kid’s birthday party with no adult supervision and a soccer game involving a bunch of six-year-olds, and his bold frontal assault is this one.
Bra-VO, Mr. Pee. I’m sure you have a bright future ahead of you when you start eighth grade in September.
How comes there weren’t more oil spills if there is a necessary connection between the occurrence of an hurricane and oil spills?
Remember: If one “caused” the other then it would necessarily be observed for each and every refinery and pipeline in those circumstances.
Maybe the drills were in different locations therefor the hurricanes hit at different intensity?
How old are you?
July 14th, 2008 at 11:21 pmLooks like Mr. Pee is out of Summer School at his 3rd tier N VA college and has taken his self-medicating to a higher level.
He is almost as funny as john kerry.
July 14th, 2008 at 11:30 pmralph the wonder llama Says:
Y’know, guys, we probably would never had to deal with this troll infestation if we had just kept humoring Pee on his “thinkprogresswatch” blog. Sure it was lame. But it kept him busy. Made him feel like he mattered.
Once his traffic dropped to nothing, he got bored. When Pee gets bored, we all suffer.
HAHAHAHAHAHA
An anti-blog about TP? Surely you jest.
What a joke.
July 15th, 2008 at 12:10 amOops. Mr. P is given a time out for namejacking.
The guy never learns.
July 15th, 2008 at 12:24 am.
McPropagandist catapulting the untruths.
.
July 15th, 2008 at 1:06 amWow Did I miss any cool freakdom?
July 15th, 2008 at 1:27 amHey TP, don’t give Mitch McConnell to us residents of the Golden State. He belongs back in Kentucky. Sorry, Kentucky, but you did vote for him.
July 15th, 2008 at 2:40 amI. beg. your. pardon!
Mitch McConnell may well be lying but he is NOT from California.
July 15th, 2008 at 2:42 amSorry I cannot pardon you—you’ll have to ask the governor.
July 15th, 2008 at 2:45 amKeith @ 100: Sorry, homie, didn’t know you were already on it ;-)
July 15th, 2008 at 2:45 amThat was a real coinkydink. Nothing for hours and then two at once.
July 15th, 2008 at 2:47 amPlease tell me this is on tape and someone is superimposing it on pictures of the oil in NOLA.
July 15th, 2008 at 11:55 amIt is unpatriotic to allow people like this to lie unchallenged.
July 15th, 2008 at 1:43 pmKill your TV before it kills you.
They’re defending these offshore drilling options because they’re lobbied by big oil…I mean what’s next? Let thousands of Hurricane Katrina survivors live in formaldehyde filled trailers? Oh, that’s already been done.
July 15th, 2008 at 7:13 pmI’m shocked shocked I tell you that a repub would lie as usual.
Just another lie from a repub.
July 15th, 2008 at 8:03 pm