The facts of same-sex couples wanting to marry is inconveniant to every straw-man argument that the ultra-radical right-whining “c”hristians make up in an effort to deny equal rights to everyone.

July 15th, 2008 at 4:37 pm

For the same reson that YOU refused to serve our country, he found antoher way to serve our country: by serving in the government and for proving that his Christian upbringing can also be liberal and correct for America.

The only difference is that Sen. Obama opened his eyes and refused to drink the fascist kool-aide. You didn’t seem to get to either of those two stages.

How will a young man learn to treat his wife if he is raised by a same-same gender couple?

How will a young woman learn how she should be treated if she is raised by a same-same gender couple?

July 15th, 2008 at 4:23 pm

How will a gay man learn to treat his partner if he is raised by an opposite sex couple?

Looks like this particular straw-man argument isn’t holding up under scrutiny, Bitbit. Try again.

“Jesus did say that,…but it’s only important to those who believe that Christ – Jesus – derived his authority from being the Son of God. If one doesn’t believe Christ is the Son of God anything He said is irrelevant.”

So, Bitbit is saying that Sen. McCain is not a Christian???

“The fact that someone doesn’t believe what Christ said about adultery doesn’t change what He said about adultery, nor does it change what He said about marriage.”

July 15th, 2008 at 4:21 pm

I will agree with you there. Just because Jesus said one thing that nobody in the US has ever stood up for doesn’t mean they use other things he said to support their prejudices. It only makes them hypocrites.

Why do fundamentalist Christians have a much higher divorce rate than the general population?
July 14th, 2008 at 3:29 pm

Since you didn’t cite a source for this assertion bit found one for you.

The reference is included in the study summary at

http://www.citizenlink.org/FOSI/marriage/divorce/A000000901.cfm

The Role Faith Plays in Marriage and the Likelihood of Divorce
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This Barna research indicates two seemingly contradictory facts:

1) The higher divorce rate in “Bible-belt” states was not new to sociologists.

2) Religious commitment, rather than mere religious affiliation, contributes to greater levels of marital success.

How do we reconcile these two facts?

Leading family sociologists David Popenoe and Scott Stanley explain that the well-established higher divorce rate in Southern Bible Belt states is due primarily to increased rates of poverty and of marriage at younger ages, rather than to the rate of religious participation in this part of the country.

How does religious commitment contribute to marital stability?

University of Virginia sociologist Brad Wilcox has studied how religious activity impacts divorce and marital stability. He finds that evangelicals who attend church regularly divorce at a rate 35 percent lower than secular couples, after controlling for various confounding sociological factors, such as economic and educational status. Similar trends are found for active Catholics and active mainline Protestants. In contrast, nominal evangelicals, who rarely or never attend church, have higher divorce rates than secular couples
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The last highlighted sentence agrees with the assertion you made.

Believe the contrast here is affiliation versus commitment. “Nominal evangelicals” would be evangelicals in name only.

R E M E M B E R:

This McFlip is being brought to you by the producers of the Larry “I.AM.NOT.GAY.I.NEVER.HAVE.BEEN.GAY.” Craig, who plead guilty to trolling for mansex in a public restroom.

I’ll reserve calling out a McBigot until I see how the EVILgelicals have their way with his McFlop to follow.

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Anybody remember?

I am new-ish here, but I always thought they were the same person. LOL. (That is, one troll with two accounts.) Can we bribe someone on TP staff to compare the IP addresses? :-D

Anybody remember?

ButtBleeders For X.

So many of the people I respect and admire here are true Christians, not the pious, sanctimonious Faux Christian pricks like Daryll and bitethebullet. I would gladly wipe my ass with Daryll’s Bible, or light a fire with bitethebullet’s Bible. They have twisted Jesus’ message into something evil and hateful and don’t deserve to be called Christians.

We need a name for these pious pricks. How about Haters for Jesus?

And of course, there’s always stupidity.

I KNEW IT!! Earlier Daryll told us how he so loveth the Lord, that he would stick the pages of the Bible together with his love. And again he admits to shaking the devil while reading the Bible.

What is it Daryll? Is it the pretty pictures of the sweet and young cherubs? Do you close your eyes and imagine what’s under that robe of many colors?

LORD! I plead that you cast out the twisted PERVERTED DEVIL that is causing Brother Daryll to soil himself and the Bible. Tis better to spill your seed in the belly of Aunt Doris than to stick the pages of the Bible together.

That’s just wrong Daryll, just wrong.

It should be clear to you by now that whatever you’re doing isn’t working. Maybe it’s time to try a new approach.

New survey shows that homosexuality has increased worldwide due to Daryll’s efforts. Even the trees are turning gay!

RUCerious Says:
bitbaconlettucetomato,

I believe that electrons are vibrating in space and we are the result.

Does that count?

As Ralph reads the Epistle of Bitblt, it counts as evidence that RUC is a heathen of the highest order.

Is Ralph right about that, bit?

bitblt Says:

bit doesn’t believe that any Christian, or lawr199, wants to give up the Apostle Paul. Of course the meaning of what Paul says will be different to one who believes the Bible is the inspired word of God than it will to one who doesn’t believe anything about the Bible.

Ralph doesn’t believe any Christian, or even bitblt, is truly willing to say that there are only two possibilities in one’s approach to the Bible — bitblt’s way and heathenism.

Ralph, for instance, recognizes the Bible as a temporal and historical record, a cultural mythological tract and the inspired Word of God as spoken through a specific nomadic tribal culture.

Ralph does not dismiss the truths in the Bible, but it’s safe to say that Ralph views the Bible differently than bitblt.

Judging by bitblt’s comment above, this means that, according to bit, Ralph “doesn’t believe anything about the Bible”.

Bitblt displays the classic, almost Manichaean dualistic absolutism that typifies much contemporary right-wing thought.

Ralph rejects the dualistic absolutism that bit seems to rely on to makes its points.

I believe that electrons are vibrating in space and we are the result.

Does that count?

Oh, and I do accept your apology!
beelzebuttbit says:
July 15th, 2008 at 5:43 pm

It wasn’t an apology. It was bewilderment!.

You believe in the divinity of Christ?
You believe that the Bible is the inspired Word of God?

DRxJ Says:

beelzebuttbit says:
You believe in the divinity of Christ?
You believe that the Bible is the inspired Word of God?

These are questions with the “?”, but please don’t take offense to these questions.

bit is aware that there are people these days calling themselves Christians, and they neither believe in the divinity of Christ nor the inspiration of the Bible.

Do you?