Twin Towers Billboard Sponsor: ‘9/11 could have been prevented if we’d had a Republican president.’
Twin Towers Billboard Sponsor: ‘9/11 could have been prevented if we’d had a Republican president.’
Mike Meehan, the Orlando businessman who paid to put up a billboard displaying the burning World Trade Center next to the words “Please Don’t Vote for a Democrat,” appeared on CNN’s American Morning where he argued that the attacks of 9/11 could have been prevented had a Republican been in the White House in the late 1990s. Watch it:
Meehan has his facts wrong. During the Clinton years, al-Qaeda training sites in Afghanistan were targeted by the U.S. military, missing Osama bin Laden by just hours. The federal anti-terrorism budget tripled under Clinton, who also consistently pressed for antiterrorism legislation, even with a Congress hostile to such measures. The common right-wing myth — parroted here by Meehan — that the Clinton administration had bin Laden “in their hands” is false. In contrast, for the first nine months of the Bush administration terrorism wasn’t seen as an “urgent issue.”
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What a fcuking imbecile.
July 16th, 2008 at 5:43 pmTwo words: TORA BORA
July 16th, 2008 at 5:44 pmBut we will not see the corporate owned, right wing controlled, fascist media expose the lies spouted by this fool. It is time for a revolution in this country. Hopefully, it will be peaceful. However, it needs to come either way. Those like King George and his corporate and fascist minions must be brought to justice. Those currently in control of the media must be removed. There is no other way.
July 16th, 2008 at 5:47 pmI can’t watch any of these videos because they stop after about two seconds. It’s probably due to the latest “Windows Vista Update”. Thanks, MS.
Anyway, did anybody at CNN bother to correct this moron on his facts? Or did they just continue to let the country believe these falsehoods?
July 16th, 2008 at 5:47 pm9/11 might also have been prevented if the Chimperor returned to the WH after his August 6 PDB (UBL determined to strike in US,) instead of extending his vacation. You don’t suppose he wouldn’t have wanted it prevented, do you?
July 16th, 2008 at 5:47 pmJust goes to show ya’ it takes nothing to be ign’rnt… but it does take money to spread it.
July 16th, 2008 at 5:48 pmHey Wayne A. Schneider: my video does the same thing, and, I have XP. I wonder if it is because I use Firefox. Oddly, videos work in the morning and stop working later in the day. What kind of anti-virus protection do you use. Kapersky here.
July 16th, 2008 at 5:50 pmMike Meehan, I’ll say this directly to you: You have no idea what you’re talking about. You have allowed your mind to be filled with conservative lies. If you believe that this country would be better off in the hands of more Republicans, then it can’t possibly be America and all it’s supposed to stand for that you love.
July 16th, 2008 at 5:50 pmWhy in the world is this guy getting free airtime? He put up a billboard, which I assume he paid for. This hardly qualifies him as any kind of expert. And the fact that he shows himself to be a mere sock puppet kind of verifies that he’s anything but.
July 16th, 2008 at 5:50 pmMaybe he was trying to claim that George Bush isn’t a Republican. If I were a Republican I might try that!
July 16th, 2008 at 5:53 pmChuck feney,
Thanks for letting me know it isn’t just me. I’m having this problem with Firefox and I even loaded their two most recent updates. I think this computer uses McCafee. Never had a problem with videos before, so I am guessing that the recent updates had something to do with it. I guess I can open an IE window to see if I can view them there.
July 16th, 2008 at 5:53 pmNice chapeau, Meehan.
**eyes rolling**
July 16th, 2008 at 5:54 pmMeehan, you really are one phucked up POS.
9/11 happened under a Rethuglic party prez.
Someone needs to take a baseball bat to this idiot and beat some sense into him.
July 16th, 2008 at 5:55 pmjohnsom argues that Richard Clarke is not a reliable source and then offers us up a column written by MANSOOR IJAZ???
July 16th, 2008 at 5:55 pmjohnsom has some serious issues with credibility…
There are people like dress like this?
July 16th, 2008 at 5:56 pmHas this dude had a meal this month that wasn’t “chicken-fried”
Pohboy…
johnsom is flagged for posting moronic lies, and being stupid in general.
July 16th, 2008 at 5:57 pmwell we finally get
see and hear
jj.
$
July 16th, 2008 at 5:58 pmMansoor Ijaz is not a credible source of information. And the US government would not make a deal like that with a private citizen, especially one appointed by himself. You’re promulgating falsehoods again, johnsom.
But, I did not say that you didn’t have the constitutional right to say what you want. You just have the right to expect people to believe you. And I don’t.
July 16th, 2008 at 5:59 pmhey johnsom; remember Bush’s immortal words about getting Osama been forgotten. And I quote verbatim here.
“I really don’t think about him much”- George W. Bush
This, from an asshat who swore to bring Osama to justice ‘Dead or Alive’.
You can join Meehan behind the woodshed for an attitude adjustment.
July 16th, 2008 at 6:00 pmTypical reichwingers: Everyone is responsible for their actions (or lack thereof) unless you are a conservative. Then is everybody else’s fault
Maybe a memo titled “Bin Laden determined to strike the US” wasn’t a clear enough warning for the Bush administration. Perhaps the wording was a little -shall we say- obscure…
July 16th, 2008 at 6:00 pmObviously, I meant to write that “You just don’t have the right to expect people to believe you.” And I still don’t.
July 16th, 2008 at 6:01 pmjohnsom Says:
Sorry but this bit of revisionist history just ain’t gonna cut it.
Ah, yes, the objective voice of Mansoor Ijaz (scroll down to the sidebar).
He’s a big hit on FauxNews, which started when he made the claims quoted by johnsom.
So much for revisionist history. Of course, his claims has been sockpuppeted all over the wingnut blogs so that they can all reference one another for credibility.
July 16th, 2008 at 6:02 pmBillboard guy? I don’t spend that much time worrying about him.
He’s nucking Futz. And if Obama somehow manages to take Florida, I’m sure he’ll blow his brains out, rather than live under a ‘black’ president.
July 16th, 2008 at 6:02 pmHi johnsom!
July 16th, 2008 at 6:02 pmjohnsom flagged with EVERY post for outright stupidity.
July 16th, 2008 at 6:04 pmThis clown obviously watched that godawful “Path to 9/11″ winger wet dream on ABC and believed the fiction of Sandy Berger calling off an assasination of Bin Laden. Guess dipsh*t hasn’t heard that we still don’t have him. Wow. The Republican President in office on 9/11 didn’t stop a damn thing but a Republican President would have caught Bin Laden before 9/11 — who the current Republican President still hasn’t caught. Wow. This guy is on his way to the laughing academy or his own show on Fox. Perhaps both.
July 16th, 2008 at 6:05 pmSo johnsom, I have some ADD type issues. Might you bullet your main ideas? Thanks in advance…
July 16th, 2008 at 6:06 pmJohnsom, What’s a Big Shot like you doing at this website? I woulda thought you’d be busy with international diplomacy and terrorist roundups and whatnot.
July 16th, 2008 at 6:07 pmWhat would have happened if … neverending discussions.
July 16th, 2008 at 6:07 pmOK Jonshom, just giving you the benefit of the doubt here. If this monsoon jism guy you quoted says Clinton let Bin Laden slip away, so be it. Answer me this:
Why weren’t re-enforcments sent to Tora Bora when specifically requested by commanders on the ground who had OBL pinned down?
Why were the some of the Bin Laden family whisked out of the country literally before tower #7 even fell?
July 16th, 2008 at 6:08 pmjohnsom Says:
Clarke’s credibility is zero. I’d take Monsoor’s word over his any day of the week. And besides, like I said before, anyone who reads books by “impartials” on this subject already knows that Clinton didn’t do diddley squat to prevent terrorism. But I already said that, didn’t I?
You’re only 180 degrees off. Ijaz is a FauxNews “expert” hack with zero credibility because he never sources anything.
Odd that Clarke is so suspect, when the Bush Administration actually kept him on as security advisor until 2003. Wingnuts don’t like hearing what he has to say, so they make the usual ludicrous claim that he was just a petty whiner.
July 16th, 2008 at 6:08 pmRichard Clarke is a classic example of the partisan hack
Clarke is a life long REPUBNLICAN appointed by Saint Ronnie who served through 4 Presidents.
I’d take Monsoor’s word over his any day of the week.
YOU would, but why should WE? Or anyone with critical thinking skills?
July 16th, 2008 at 6:09 pmIt was the democrats foreign policy that caused 9/11, but the republicans can hardly use that as an argument, the blowback from the last 8 years is going to be much worse than 9/11, sadly. Bin Laden cited the sanctions on Iraq as part of the motivation behind the attack, those sanctions killed 500 thousand Iraqi children.
July 16th, 2008 at 6:11 pmGosh, I wonder why Mansoor Ijaz hasn’t been able to deliver Bin Laden during the almost eight years of the Bush administration. . .
July 16th, 2008 at 6:11 pmthe attacks of 9/11 could have been prevented had a Republican been in the White House
Apparently Meehan has some sort of mental illness. He needs to seek help. He should use his propaganda money to fix his head, or at least to research truth.
July 16th, 2008 at 6:12 pmRichard Clarke, according to johnsom, is a “partisan hack”. That would explain the details of his career, quoted from Wikipedia:
Partisan? Ha ha ha! Of course, he did criticize the Bush administration for how they handled counter-terrorism, so he must be dismissed as a “hack.”
July 16th, 2008 at 6:12 pmAnd as far as your contention that Clinton didn’t do diddly squat to stop terrorism. I seem to recall a guy named McVey who was executed. Oh, and the 1st WTC bombers? Rotting in Rikers.
Then of course Clinton had some good intelligence and tried to take out OBL in ‘98, and you people on the right accused him of wagging the dog.
The fact is that Bu$h and is handlers were warned about the 9-11 plot and did nothing. The biggest attack on American soil since Pearl Harbor happened under your guys’ watch.
July 16th, 2008 at 6:14 pmThere’s another little gem buried in this video. Watch it here.
July 16th, 2008 at 6:15 pmhttp://www.tagg-lines.com/2008/07/no-more-callswe-have-winner.html
So, johnnie, what about that PDB titled “Bin Laden determined to strike in US”…?
Are you claiming that it’s a fake?
Yes?
No?
July 16th, 2008 at 6:16 pmHow about trying and convicting the Blind Sheik?
July 16th, 2008 at 6:16 pmHow about presenting evidence to the incoming Bush administration that there was a serious threat of an attack on the US?
July 16th, 2008 at 6:18 pmWhen Clinton did authorize attacks on terrorists, it was the “conservatives” who claimed he was (as citizen_pain noted) trying to wag the dog. This constant wingnut assertion that it’s “all Clinton’s fault” is laughable.
July 16th, 2008 at 6:18 pmjohnsom sez:
July 16th, 2008 at 6:18 pmClarke says stuff that conflicts with my worldview… therefore he has no credibility!
johnsom,
how did you like
the song?
catchy, huh?
*
do have a hat/shirt combo
like that too?
$
thank you.
&
July 16th, 2008 at 6:18 pmThe johnsom troll calls Clarke a “hack,” but offers no evidence other than what he pulls out of his ass.
Typical.
And flagged for stupidity.
July 16th, 2008 at 6:18 pmThe second part of that question Johnsom was alluding to the fact that members of the Bin-Laden family were immediately flown out of the country literally moments after the towers came down. Obviously only the government could have arranged this escape so quickly, given the fact that all air traffic across the country was grounded. So, if you took time to ponder the question, you’d realize I was asking you why Bu$h and his handlers put forth so much effort to protect the family of OBL, while Americans were still dying at ground zero…
July 16th, 2008 at 6:19 pmget it now?
johnsom,
The 9/11 Commission stated, in no uncertain terms, that there is credible evidence to support the claim that Bin Laden was ever “offered” to the Clinton administration.
But even if that were true -which it isn’t- Pres Bush has had plenty of time to stop/capture Bin Laden, hasn’t he? Beginning with that “Bin Laden determined to strike the US” pesky memo.
Then again, you are trolling: your concern is not actual but borne out of the need to blame a man who hasn’t been president in almost 8 years now and counting…
July 16th, 2008 at 6:19 pmOops!
Make that “there is NO credible evidence to support the claim that Bin Laden…”
July 16th, 2008 at 6:20 pmCan we PLEASE give Florida back to the Spanish? :-)
July 16th, 2008 at 6:21 pmSo, now Bu$h has been in office almost 8 years Johnsom. What has he done about OBL?
LOL…
July 16th, 2008 at 6:22 pmThis is ridiculous. It’s hard to take a man seriously when he’s wearing a red cowboy hat.
http://liberalretort.blogspot.com/
July 16th, 2008 at 6:22 pmClarke says Bush conflicts with my worldview…therefore I’m going to trash him til the cows come home.
No, Clarke says Bush refused to meet with me for months and then twisted our failure to prevent 9/11 into a fever for war with an enemy who didn’t have any to do with it… and you still haven’t told me why you’re a better source than Clarke.
July 16th, 2008 at 6:23 pmWhat is your counter-terrorism experience johnsom?
johnsom,
eight months and
seven minutes.
watch.
*
notice bush’s cat-like
reflexes when he receives
the news of the attack?
%
neither do i.
*
July 16th, 2008 at 6:24 pmOT — but I think you will find this interesting:
An unidentified government official of a U.S. ally wants to participate if and when Rep. Dennis J. Kucinich makes his case to impeach President Bush before the House Judiciary Committee, according to the Ohio Democrat.
The House voted, 238-180, on Tuesday to send Kucinich’s latest impeachment effort (H Res 1345) to the Judiciary Committee.
Chairman John Conyers Jr. said he will hold a broad hearing on the general topic of abuses of power by the Bush administration.
July 16th, 2008 at 6:24 pmWhen the final history of the world is written, the ignorance of the Republicans will truly be one of the most astounding chapters in the book.
July 16th, 2008 at 6:25 pmBush’s attorney general John Ashcroft knew about 9/11 and did nothing to stop it. Ashcroft even stopped flying on commercial planes when he found this out, but that’s all he did.
July 16th, 2008 at 6:25 pmHey, Festus, your shorts are on fire!
July 16th, 2008 at 6:26 pmWhat did Clarke do when he had the chance under Clinton?
July 16th, 2008 at 6:26 pmRead his book, he describes it ‘Against all Enemies’
Educate yourself and then we’ll talk.
(hey! that’s fun- I can see why you write it johnsom!)
First of all, I don’t even know what a troll is, so let’s get that off the table.
~johnsonm
An Internet troll, or simply troll in Internet slang, is someone who posts controversial and usually irrelevant or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum or chat room, with the intention of baiting other users into an emotional response or to generally disrupt normal on-topic discussion.
Troll (Internet)
Third, that changes nothing, regarding Clinton.
It changes in that you are spreading a falsehood, ie, Ijaz’s claims. I don’t care for Clinton, but I care even less for liars who repeat the same tired lie over and over, no matter how many times you prove them wrong.
And what you say changes nothing, in that 9/11 still happened under Bush’s watch.
July 16th, 2008 at 6:29 pmSo far, no one has stepped up and loaned me a flame thrower.
Look, I’m all for the first amendment, I’m not going to torch the billboard.
Maybe the posts holding it up, but definitely, not the bill board.
July 16th, 2008 at 6:29 pmjohnsom Says:
…Bush inherited what Clinton left behind, in more ways than one.
Oh, you mean like a budget surplus and a healthy economy and gas at $1.46 a gallon? Stuff like that?
Yeah, I can see how you’d be pissed off about that.
July 16th, 2008 at 6:30 pmbelac,
johnsom
(like bush)
doesn’t read.
:)
July 16th, 2008 at 6:30 pmjohnsom Spews:
Hey, I’m not claiming that everything Ijaz says is true…
followed by
But that doesn’t alter what I think about what Clinton definitely didn’t do.</em
Everything you’re saying about Clinton didn’t do was based on Ijaz being credible and truthful. Face it, you just came in here to smear Clinton and blame 9/11 on him.
BTW, this statement:
Tell me one thing he or Clinton did to prevent 911 during the Clinton administration.
is just plain STUPID!
As you may have learned by now, Bill Clinton was not president on 9/11, so to ask what he did to prevent the attacks is ignorant, at best. Dick Clarke worked like hell to get his bosses to pay attention to the threat. (They refused to.)
The question you need to ask yourself (if you are willing to answer it honestly) is “What did George Bush do to prevent 9/11?” We know he ignored the warning signs and intel he received just a few months before. It is a documented fact that he dragged his feet and purposefully did nothing.
You might as well ask, “What did Ronald Reagan do to prevent the bombing of the US Marine barracks in Lebanon?” Or, better yet, ask what Jimmy Carter did to prevent an attack that happened after he was president?
July 16th, 2008 at 6:32 pmjohnsom Says:
Ok, I gotta run, but it’s been nice talking to you guys. You’re actually starting to sound civil to me…..well most of you anyway.
bush = johnsom.
when the questions get tough,
they get going.
buh, bye!
*
thank you.
@
July 16th, 2008 at 6:33 pmjohnsom Says:
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Clarke said….”waaahhhh, Bush won’t meet with me….”
July 16th, 2008 at 6:26 pm
Given the comments this moron has made on this thread — this is incredibly ironic.
July 16th, 2008 at 6:33 pmtell me something, johnsom.
I hear a lot of “chatter” from the right-wing talking heads that if Obama is elected president, we are almost certainly going to be hit by another terrorist attack. Of course, they give no explanation for how they know this, but let’s suppose it’s true. Tell me, what is George Bush doing to prevent the attack we’re certain to get after he leaves office?
July 16th, 2008 at 6:34 pmjohnsom Says:
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The only thing I’m trying to do is talk some sense into you.
July 16th, 2008 at 6:31 pm
More irony!!
Do it again!
July 16th, 2008 at 6:35 pmjohnsom Says:
That was because of Regan’s policies that he inherited. And the entrepeneurs in Silicon Valley.
What an interesting theory of government. No president can have any effect during his own tenure, but only on the terms that follow him. Clinton didn’t do anything right and inherited all the good (like that huge deficit) that Reagan did, while Bush didn’t do anything wrong and inherited all the bad (like a huge surplus) that Clinton did. Pretty damn convenient, I will say.
And always always ignore the facts, such as the fact that it was under Clinton that the original WTC attackers were caught, convicted and imprisoned, while Bush has yet to even capture bin Laden.
July 16th, 2008 at 6:37 pmI think johnsom has inherited the crown of “Dumbest Troll EVER” from the michael troll.
July 16th, 2008 at 6:38 pmNo, johnsom, what did the then-president, George Bush, do to prevent the attack? He refused to respond to the bombing of the USS Cole which, according to some experts I’ve heard, gave bin Laden the confidence to proceed with the 9/11 attacks.
What did George Bush do to prevent the attacks of 9/11, which happened almost eight months after he took office? Besides nail down his annual vacation plans in Crawford, Texas?
July 16th, 2008 at 6:38 pmjohnsom Says:
It is fun, isn’t it? But seriously, I’ve heard Clarke talk tens of times, and the only thiing that comes to mind is: a) dissaffected ex-employee, and b) partisan hack.
Sorry.
If I were watching my beloved George W Bush sink into the mudpits of history, I too would blame anything and everything on all except Bush. It must be awful watching your ‘dear leader’ become more and more hated with every sunrise. I can imagine the emotional investment you have made to sneak up Bush’s ass; to be ‘part of the team’, to be ‘a player’. It must suck big time to begin the realization that you have squandered so many years honoring what has become the worst president of all time.
The bottom line here is simple:
>Bush was advised to pay attention to OBL.
>Bush was pleaded with (what you describe as Waaa) to meet with the proper intel folks – but he didn’t.
>Bush was informed by way of the PDB that something was happening.
>9/11 happened on Bush’s watch – something I am convinced you will not admit.
>Bush didn’t want a 9/11 commission to investigate the attacks and how we should have been better prepared.
>Bush indicated he wanted OBL ‘dead or alive’.
>Bush then said he wasn’t concerned with OBL, that he “doesn’t think much about him”.
>Tora Bora
>etc…etc…etc…It goes on and on.
But I forget we are speaking about your king; and that is not tolerated within the camp is it?
July 16th, 2008 at 6:40 pmjohnsom Says:
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False and false. I come hear to speak the truth to all that will listen.
July 16th, 2008 at 6:39 pm
When you find some, you can get started. :-D
July 16th, 2008 at 6:41 pmI don’t necessarily believe that Obama won’t do the right things to prevent attacks, so I can’t answer your other question.
So then, you don’t believe right wing talking heads who insist that we’ll get attacked if Obama is elected president?
If you don’t believe we’ll get attacked, then why does the right wing keep saying that Republicans are better at protecting us than Democrats? Why would we be less likely to be attacked if McCain were president?
July 16th, 2008 at 6:41 pmIn johnsonm’s world, a president can only be credited for the good things that happen under his presidency, and someone else needs to be blamed for all the things he got wrong.
This rule only applies if the president is a Republican. If a Democrat, the president gets to be blamed for everything everyone else got wrong, and none of the credit.
July 16th, 2008 at 6:42 pmZooey, it’s what is known as “faith-based” ideology. johnsom believes that Clinton screwed up on terrorists, so no evidence is required to substantiate the belief and any evidence that refutes it is rejected as being, well, treyf. People like Clarke or Wilson, who dare to criticize the BurningBush are demonized and assigned all manner of evil motivation, while righteous people like Mansoor Ijaz, who prattles the correct line, are not required to provide an iota of evidence.
July 16th, 2008 at 6:42 pmZooey Says:
What a fcuking imbecile.
How stupid is he if he gets people to believe him, taking votes away from Obama?
July 16th, 2008 at 6:42 pmThis “johnsom” troll must be a parody.
Right?
July 16th, 2008 at 6:43 pmjohnsom Says:
Wayne A. Schneider Says:
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Everything you’re saying about Clinton didn’t do was based on Ijaz being credible and truthful. Face it, you just came in here to smear Clinton and blame 9/11 on him.
False and false. I come hear to speak the truth to all that will listen.
No, johnsom, you came here and blamed 9/11 on Clinton and based your arguments on what this Ijaz clown said. Then you tried to say that you didn’t believe everything Ijaz said. So, why cite an unreliable source if not to simply fling poo at Clinton (like a good little right-wing stoolie)?
July 16th, 2008 at 6:44 pmI was just gonna say the same thing Zooey, no way this guy’s for real…
July 16th, 2008 at 6:44 pmjohnsom,
thought you had to “run”.
did your mom give you
another half hour on the
computer?
:)
July 16th, 2008 at 6:44 pmNamtillaku Says:
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Zooey Says:
What a fcuking imbecile.
How stupid is he if he gets people to believe him, taking votes away from Obama?
July 16th, 2008 at 6:42 pm
A terrifying thought, eh?
July 16th, 2008 at 6:45 pmjohnsom Says:
Ah hah! Here is the fallacy in your thinking. They caught the patsies only!! Just like in OKBOMB.
You have a fantastic response to all information. Ramzi Yousef was hardly a “patsy.” That’s not even a good try; it’s pathetic.
July 16th, 2008 at 6:45 pmI guess you losers got “trolled” by johnsom…
July 16th, 2008 at 6:46 pmGregor Samsa Says:
In johnsonm’s world, a president can only be credited for the good things that happen under his presidency, and someone else needs to be blamed for all the things he got wrong.
johnsom loves him some Bush – no others. Our troll is a one trick pony – Bush is king. In johnsoms world, Bush is to be credited with all success – throughout history, and any democratic administration is automatically at fault for the bad stuff.
I’m trying to think of the proper word for this type of regal attraction; Oh yeah…WEIRDO.
July 16th, 2008 at 6:46 pmAh hah! Here is the fallacy in your thinking. They caught the patsies only!! Just like in OKBOMB.
So Bush couldn’t even catch the ‘patsies?’ WHOA, Bush is way more screwed up than I thought! Thanks for clueing me in johnsom!
July 16th, 2008 at 6:49 pmjohnsom Says:
July 16th, 2008 at 6:50 pmjj is back.
Ok, this time I really gotta go….but my Mom died in her sleep at 86 ten years ago. Very peaceful way to go.
May she rest in peace….
July 16th, 2008 at 6:50 pmZooey Says:
A terrifying thought, eh?
Yeah, the ignorance of the Republicans & deniers scares me more than anything.
July 16th, 2008 at 6:50 pmJohnsom: Do yourself a favor and watch this clip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyyRXfROhrc
July 16th, 2008 at 6:51 pmThat was because of Regan’s policies that he inherited. And the entrepeneurs in Silicon Valley.
I dropped into this thread late and read with interest the epic saga of johnsom trying to argue his point without any facts or logic at his disposal. When I came to this post, where he claims that the budget surplus that Clinton handed GWB on 2001 was the result of Reaganomics from twelve years earlier, the curtain was parted, and I saw that johnsom is clearly a parody troll.
We’ve been had, people!
Johnsom is a progressive striving to make conservatives look bad.
My question is, why did he think they needed the help?
July 16th, 2008 at 6:51 pmjohnsom,
you’re repeating yourself.
or do you have short term memory syndrome?
*
good luck.
$
July 16th, 2008 at 6:52 pmOMG, why did you folks take almost 100 posts responding to the idiot johnsom. Wasn’t it obvious to you in the beginning what this troll was all about? Why did you waste your time talking to it.
July 16th, 2008 at 6:53 pmI believe the troll (goon?) is gone.
July 16th, 2008 at 6:53 pmWayne, if I’m following johnsom’s “logic” properly, it doesn’t matter what Obama does to prevent an attack.
If we’re attacked after Obama takes office, it will be because of what George W. Bush didn’t do while he was in office.
Isn’t that right, johnsom?
July 16th, 2008 at 6:54 pmAll,
July 16th, 2008 at 6:55 pmjohnsom is gone.
Hey ace, how about my bet pussy? You run off like a btch dog with turpentine on her ass.
Are you a btch dog with turpentine on your ass? That would explain a lot.
July 16th, 2008 at 6:56 pmYeah, you gotta love the right wing’s penchent for presidents ‘inheriting’ problems from their predecessors.
I guess in that vein, you could blame Carter’s economic ‘misery index’ on Nixon.
Or, you could blame Bu$h #1’s recession on Reagan.
You could give credit for the 90’s tech boom on Bu$h #1 as well, problem is http wasn’t around back then…
July 16th, 2008 at 6:56 pmWayne, if I’m following johnsom’s “logic” properly, it doesn’t matter what Obama does to prevent an attack.
If we’re attacked after Obama takes office, it will be because of what George W. Bush didn’t do while he was in office.
Isn’t that right, johnsom?
No, no, no! He’s a Democrat! Different rules.
July 16th, 2008 at 6:57 pmAnd then there’s the other tack.
Meehan is a complete jerk, a lousy musician, but with enough cash to front a billboard with something completely crazy on it, just to garner attention and show off his shitty music.
July 16th, 2008 at 6:58 pmLet’s not forget to credit John Adams for winning the Revolutionary war, except that works kinda backwards, since Washington was first.
July 16th, 2008 at 6:59 pmHey! How about giving FDR the blame for the depression!
July 16th, 2008 at 7:00 pmA Assistant Vice Pres of my insititution just came back from vacation where he says he read: “The Prosecution Of George W. Bush For Murder.” by Vincent Bugliosi and he was totally switched on his view of booosh. He questioned why he does not hear about this book on the MSM, of course he asked laughingly.
July 16th, 2008 at 7:15 pmhttp://www.prosecutionofbush.com/
Mike “The Moron” Meehan forgets one thing…
The real reason the threats forwarded by Richard Clark were considered suspect was due to it was from a Democrat.
THEY HATED CLINTON SO MUCH THEY WOULD JUST IGNORE EVERYTHING FROM THE CLINTON ADMINSTRATION–EVEN IF AMERICANS HAD TO DIE!!!
July 16th, 2008 at 7:19 pmWell, maybe if johnsom comes back, he can explain something else. If the attacks of 9/11 were Clinton’s fault because of what he didn’t do, then wouldn’t the first World Trade Center attack be the fault of George H.W. Bush because of what he didn’t do? That’s the way his logic seems to be working.
July 16th, 2008 at 7:31 pmThere was a time I believed in our political system. I no longer do. republicans are too stupid and evil to be allowed to vote. Anyone espousing republican bullshit should be rounded up and put in a camp.
July 16th, 2008 at 7:34 pmThat’s the way his logic seems to be working.
~Wayne A. Schneider
No, no… that logic doesn’t work like that. See, in your scenario, the blame must skip Bush I entirely and fall on Carter. Or on Clinton himself, or skip bush II and fall on a future Democratic president.
Do you see now how that works? I think the technical term for that is passing the buck.
July 16th, 2008 at 7:57 pmAnd we wouldn’t be in Iraq if the Democrat had not been defeated by 5 judges in 2000.
July 16th, 2008 at 9:01 pmIs this Mansoor Ijaz guy related in any way to Ahmad Chalabi?
We all know by now that a major national security lapse occurred during the first months of the Bush administration in 2001.
Bush blew off the August 6, 2001 PDB warning of an imminent attack by al Qaeda in the United States.
Condi Rice held only ONE cabinet-level counter-terrorism principal’s meeting ONE WEEK before the 9/11 attacks, completely blowing off the thrice-weekly principal’s meeting’s schedule of the Clinton administration.
Bush’s Attorney General, John Ashcroft, prior to the 9/11 attacks, placed protecting U.S. citizens from right-wing religious terrorists at a much lower Justice Department/FBI priority than the Clinton administration.
About three weeks before the attacks, after the Aug. 6 PDB and before Condi Rice’s one counter-terrorism principal’s meeting, flight instructors at a Midwest flight school tipped off FBI field agents to Moussaoui, a foreign national, who only wanted to fly airborne 747s, not learn how to take-off or land one. He was arrested. Desperate FBI field agents made multiple requests (over 70) of Bush lackeys at FBI headquarters, trying to get authorization to search Maoussaoui’s personal effects (Note: under existing FISA provisions at that time, the search could have been done without a warrant, with the FBI only required to go to the FISA court within 48 hours to get a retroactive warrant). Midwest FBI field agents even tried to get Moussaoui extradited to England so his personal effects could be searched when he went through British customs. This was to happen on 9/11. Unfortunately, Bush’s Attorney General, John Ashcroft, had decided that there were more important law enforcement priorities for the FBI (prostitutes, pornographers and drug dealers) than protecting U.S. citizens from rabid, right-wing religious fundamentalist fanatics. (Note: Just as no Iraqis were involved in the 9/11 attacks, there also were no prostitutes, pornographers or drug dealers involved).
It is quite obvious, therefore, that the 9/11 attacks happened because a Republican administration was asleep at the wheel, a Republican administration that couldn’t find the time to take the al Qaeda threat seriously…thus, causing the deaths of nearly 3,000 American citizens on 9/11.
July 16th, 2008 at 9:04 pmRobertSeattle Says:
Can we PLEASE give Florida back to the Spanish? :-)
July 16th, 2008 at 6:21 pm
Hmmm, OK, but move the retirees, pundits and hideous singers to Texas first ;)
Oh, and the swamp rednecks.
July 16th, 2008 at 9:21 pmIf Gore and the American electorate hadn’t been robbed, we wouldn’t be in this budget busting debacle in Iraq!
July 16th, 2008 at 9:23 pmExpect even more outrageous revisionist crap from the right wing in their effort to hold on to power.
July 16th, 2008 at 9:27 pmThey’re scared of losing their eight-year grip on our collective balls.
The North American Aerospace Defense Command was still in place on 9/11. It was designed to respond to any threat against any space within North America in less than 20 minutes. The FAA contacted them 40 minutes before the first tower was hit. Each of the four planes involved was on radar showing a disabled transponder (at verying times). A simple question – what happened?
July 16th, 2008 at 9:33 pmEven a brilliant marketer needs a product to sell. Meehan’s product, his ‘music’, ain’t never gonna sell, no matter how many billboards he puts up. He could become a best seller at FR or red State, though.
BTW, whatever happened to that other sycophantic slinger of suck, the Right Brothers? Are they still wrong?
Back to the Meehan. Do you wonder if those 3,000 Republicans, Democrats, and Independents that died on 9/11 agree with you? I suspect everyone of the victims and their families would find your so-called ‘patriotism misplaced.
Here’s some more facts for you to avoid confrontation with-
* Bush spent 40% of his time on vacation leading up to 9/11.
* Bush took attack subs stationed in the Gulf, tasked with hitting OBL, off the mission in the Spring of ‘01.
* The report developed by the bi-partisan blue ribbion commission, chaired by Gary Hart and Warren Rudman, on terrorism was presented and dumpded without action by Bush-Cheney.
* In addition to the 8/6 PDB, Bush got multiple “heads up” from a number of foreign intelligence sources on the threat….and did nothing.
* This administration paid the Taliban $43MM in aid to get their suppoirt on building a pipeline. These are the people who were supporting the Al Qaeda training camps.
It’s obvious to me that anyone who defends this criminal administration’s negligence on defending this country before and during 9/11, hates America. I wonder if Meehan might be one of those Al Qaeda terrorists disguised as a crappy musician?
July 16th, 2008 at 9:41 pmGiven the evidence and the white washed 9/11 Ommission Report, one could make a case that they ‘Let it Happen on Purpose’.
People kill people over a few dollars. How many people could a few sociopaths sacrifice to gain unlimited power and trillions worth of oil?
July 16th, 2008 at 9:48 pmWhere’s all the indy’s and nader supporters? You would think from this thread that there was a difference between democrats and republicans….even bill clinton was better than the last eight years.
anyone who thinks the dems and repubs are the same, please read back through this thread and tell me where you dissagree that things are always better under democrats and always worse in oh so many ways under republicans.
July 16th, 2008 at 10:00 pmZoey,
ONE WORD:
A N T R A X
July 16th, 2008 at 10:14 pm.
August 6, 2001
Presidential DAILY briefing:
O. B. L. Determined to ATTACK INSIDE AMERICA!
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July 16th, 2008 at 10:17 pmThis Meehan guy may very well be a double agent for the Dems.
Infiltrate the other party. Act like such an ass on behalf of the Republicans, that the swing voters are totally repulsed. Brilliant!
Obama may have to thank this guy on election day.
July 16th, 2008 at 10:45 pmFirst of all John Roberts of CNN is nothing more than a canadian Republican waterboy. Second this idiot has no idea what the hell he’s talking about. Only a low life pig like him, Bush, Guiliani, and the entire Republican party would try to exploit 9-11 for political purposes. This proves that their lies aren’t working anymore so they have to try to resort to the lowest possible denuminator. Any fool who votes for a Republican because of this sick idiot and that low class bill board needs to have the shlt kicked out of them. I’d like to take this idiot and kick the livin shlt out of him myself. If I had a family member who got killed on 9-11 I’d do exactly that. These sick little and I mean little people need to take that sorry azzes to another country if they can’t get along with fellow Americans because they belong to a different party.
July 16th, 2008 at 10:58 pmyea, well, lies and deception are nothing new to a republican. In fact it is the ONLY thing they do – truth and reality are not in the realm of possibility.
July 16th, 2008 at 11:08 pmSince the hostage crisis 29 years ago, only about a quarter of that time has been a democratic-controlled foriegn policy. Was there any justice in that? The Iranian president was suspected of being one of the captors. Not to fail to mention that republican president that traded arms for the hostages and all the minions who helped (some of which are in the current criminal {surprise} administration). Being realistic about where we’ve come in the last 30 to 50 years when it comes to foriegn policy and terrorism, there is more reason to be skeptical about republicans than democrats. Perhaps if those involved in Iran-Contra were brought to justice for treason, we wouldn’t be in this situation and 9/11 could have indeed been prevented. Realisticly, it’s hard to blame one person for one well thought out attack. However, the person I expect to take responsibility is the person sworn in at that time. Whatever the previous prez did or didn’t do, it’s this one’s responsibility to take the necessary action to prevent or at least curtail such a horrendous attack.
July 16th, 2008 at 11:36 pmLike unsinkable rubber ducks, no matter how badly Republicans screw up, the True Believers ™ keep wanting more.
http://progressiveworldreview.com
July 17th, 2008 at 12:01 amRemind me again, under whose watch did 9/11 happen?
Remind me again, under whose watch did 9/11 happen?
Remind me again, under whose watch did 9/11 happen?
Remind me again, under whose watch did 9/11 happen?
Remind me again, under whose watch did 9/11 happen?
Remind me again, under whose watch did 9/11 happen?
Remind me again, under whose watch did 9/11 happen?
Remind me again, under whose watch did 9/11 happen?
Remind me again, under whose watch did 9/11 happen?
Remind me again, under whose watch did 9/11 happen?
HOW LONG DOES A PRESIDENT HAVE TO BE IN OFFICE BEFORE HE CAN BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE THINGS THAT HAPPEN WHILE HE IS IN OFFICE?!?!?!
These troglodytes are STILL blaming Clinton for the general crappiness our country is going through, 7 and a half YEARS later. At what point does Bush become accountable?!!??!!?
July 17th, 2008 at 12:47 amSomething tells me these same troglodytes will be blaming Obama for Bush’s f__kups before he is even sworn in
July 17th, 2008 at 12:52 am“As all Americans know, recent weeks have brought a second wave of terrorist attacks upon our country: deadly anthrax spores sent through the U.S. Mail.” — PResident Bush
He didn’t prevent the 9/11 attacks, and bin Laden is still at large.
He didn’t prevent the anthrax attacks, and the perpetrators are still at large.
July 17th, 2008 at 1:03 amIs there anything we are allowed to blame Bush for?
Just wonderin’
July 17th, 2008 at 1:13 amanyone near orlando?
lets reprint that piece of shlt billboard to reflect the truth…
REPUBLICAN ARE A GODDAMN CANCER ON HUMAN-KIND!
F&CK ALL GODDAMN REPUBLICANS…
if anyone wants to fly me down to orlando, i’ll be more than happy to update this f*ucking rednecks billboard.
July 17th, 2008 at 1:14 amoh yeah, email me at a1webbasix@yahoo.com…
i’ll be more than happy to fix this a$$hats billboard!
July 17th, 2008 at 1:15 amAll will be well in the world only if we have a Republican President.
Elect McCain, and all will be well. You can continue to watch American Idle in the televison section of WalMart. Cars that cannot be driven because no one can afford the fuel make excellent homeless shelters. SUVs will command the highest price as they are better suited for larger families. And since birth control and abortions will no longer be available, families will once again be very large. Just remember, “right to life” does not equal “right to food,” or medicine, or clothing, or housing.
We need continued Republican Rule to strengthen the American Family; to run our country on fundamentalist “Christian” values. The wealthy will never suffer from “food insecurity.” And they must be allowed to pass their vast holdings on to their offspring in perpetuity. Only then can we be assured of continued prosperity.
Yes, let us have Republican Rule forever.
But, if not, just remember, BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING.
And it really won’t matter if Big Brother is Republican or Democrat. Those who speak truth to power will disappear in the first purge. We are all dead.
July 17th, 2008 at 1:22 amIs there anything we are allowed to blame Bush for?
Just wonderin’
July 17th, 2008 at 1:13 am
NO!
If you blame Bush for anything, the Terrorists win!
July 17th, 2008 at 1:25 amLocal yokel moron makes the big time
July 17th, 2008 at 8:19 amOk, this redneck idiot’s 5 minutes of fame are over. CNN rewarded stupidity by putting this idiot on. I won’t even listen to the clip. Not worth airtime. Once again republicans are counting on the stupidity of their listeners to get the message across. Are we really that stupid? I hope not. Maybe I’ll buy a billboard and get my 5 minutes of fame with some truthful democratic message against republicans. Wait, truth doesn’t get airtime these days. Republicans are very desperate these days. They’ll try any ridiculous scheme to propagate the lies.
July 17th, 2008 at 10:24 amAccording to the new New York Times/CBS News poll, only 16% of Americans think the government is telling the truth about 9/11 and the intelligence prior to the attacks:
“Do you think members of the Bush Administration are telling the truth, are mostly telling the truth but hiding something, or are they mostly lying?
Telling the truth 16%
Hiding something 53%
Mostly lying 28%
Not sure 3%”
The 84% figure mirrors other recent polls on the same issue. A Canadian Poll put the figure at 85%. A CNN poll had the figure at 89%. Over 80% supported the stance of Charlie Sheen when he went public with his opinions on 9/11 as an inside job.
Put me down as mostly lying!
911=Inside Job – Anyone who believes the Bush Administration bullshit story is obviously in need of a brain!
July 17th, 2008 at 10:25 amNo American President would have sent that cruise missile in when Osama was meeting with his Saudi Royal Family members. Because he is part of the Saudi Royal Family! Get it? Bush holds hands with these people and kisses them.
July 17th, 2008 at 11:18 amThe most important point of the CNN clip is that the CNN host does NOT correct the lie that Clinton was president on 9/11/2001!
Here is an obvious proof that the Main Stream Media is in no way under control of ‘liberals’.
John Robert is either completely incompetent as a journalist or under orders to never contradict blatant lies made by their guests.
No wonder Comcast booted MSBNC off the lower channels, they had Rachel Maddow on who actually pointed out the obvious lies made by right-wingers…
July 17th, 2008 at 11:45 amHow many of those attacks you reference happened on American soil? The WTC, a couple of months into his administration? Gee, just the one where we did capture the ringleader and put him behind bars. And all of the perps who were behind the USS Cole have escaped prison…on GW Bush’s watch.
I don’t recall too much concern about terrorism by the Republicans and their noise machine in the late 90’s. What I do remember is the Republican 8 year Inquisition into all things Clinton. I remember that very well. I remember the howls of “Wag the Dog” when Clinton had the audacity to deal with terrorism because it meant that the impeachment dog and pony show took a back seat. Yet, in spite of the attempts of Republicans to investigate Clinton over BS trumped up nothing issues, he managed to give us the best economic decade of my life, lost no soldiers in combat they he ordered in, had no major scandals/corruptions, and the USA brand was admired around the world.
Bush, who got business loans from the bin Ladens, hasn’t been able to bring OBL to justice. Shocking. He called the US military off the trail at Tora Bora and arranged safe passage for members of the Saudi Royal family out of the USA…you know, the country where 15/19 hijackers actually came from. How was Saudi Arabia held accountable? By providing US troops as a lightening rod in a neighboring country that didn’t have a thing to do with 9/11.
How many terrorist attacks occur daily in Iraq? We can’t stop those with 150,000 troops in the country. Yet you hold Clinton responsible for attacks in a foreign countries where we had no military presence?
Osama bin Laden wanted the price of oil raised to $140.00/barrel. It was $40.00 when Bush took over. Now it’s at $150.00. Mission accomplished.
July 17th, 2008 at 12:46 pmInnocent Bystander Says:
Osama bin Laden wanted the price of oil raised to $140.00/barrel. It was $40.00 when Bush took over. Now it’s at $150.00. Mission accomplished.
ObL is still alive and highly appeased. bush has done more to appease terrorists than the terrorists could ever dream. republicans can only blame dems for everything, they can’t actually do anything except break records for deficit spending and make the rich richer.
July 17th, 2008 at 1:58 pmTrippleKick Says:
July 17th, 2008 at 11:39 am
Hey, TrippleDick.
I’d like you to tell us what Bush did for his first 8 months in office to deal with the threat from Bin Laden. You can start by linking to sources showing the meetings he had and the discussions during them.
Oh, wait. You won’t find any.
Next, I’d like you to point out all the legislation put forth by the Republican-controlled Congress from 1994 through 9/10/2001 that specifically dealt with terrorism.
July 17th, 2008 at 8:14 pmI think Meehan has his hat on too tight cutting off circulation to his under developed corroded brain.Give him credit though cause he’s scared and knows after the election he and his bush buddies will have hell to pay.If there is any justice maybe he will hang hisself from that sign.
July 17th, 2008 at 10:43 pmIf I lived in Florida I would absolutely burn those billboards to the ground.
Next to each billboard there should be another billboard with a photo of thousands of flag draped coffins and the caption: “Please don’t vote for a republican”
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