NATO has “abandoned an Afghan outpost days after it was stormed by militants who killed nine US soldiers.” The “predawn assault on the still-unfinished camp left nine US soldiers dead and was the worst single toll for US forces in Afghanistan since 2005.”
The setback comes as the insurgency in Afghanistan gains “dangerous momentum,” killing “more U.S. and NATO troops in Afghanistan in June than in Iraq for the second straight month.”
this is not the way to win a war.
We got the Afghans to bleed the Soviet Union in the 1980s. Now it is being used in the same way on us.
July 16th, 2008 at 12:14 pmDid we turn another corner in Afghanistan?
July 16th, 2008 at 12:16 pmwait! doesn't this mean we're making progress in afghanistan?
July 16th, 2008 at 12:17 pm.....but, but, but it's going so great in Iraq.
¶ AIO
July 16th, 2008 at 12:18 pmthe good Doctor beat me by a hair!
July 16th, 2008 at 12:18 pmAfghanistan won't be a success until there is a waterpark in every town!
July 16th, 2008 at 12:19 pmWhat's worse is since we're bogged down in Iraq we can't bring in the extra troops needed to get a handle on the situation.
And what's even worse is that if we hadn't rushed off to Iraq and we'd spent the time to dis-arm the afghan warlords, and completely drive out the taliban, and capture OBL, we wouldn't be having this problem in the first place.
July 16th, 2008 at 12:19 pmGreat minds think alike. :)
July 16th, 2008 at 12:20 pmAnd the ignorant Redneck says:
But, but, them thar tearror-istas be in Iraq, those Al-kada's, them da ones that blowed us up. And you know what, them Arabs are them ones jacking tha oil prices.
And yes, I did have a stupid Redneck say that to me, just as I typed it.
Ignorance is bliss.
July 16th, 2008 at 12:28 pmYou mean the Afghans don't like it anymore when we bomb their wedding parties?
What a bunch of kadu-chomping ingrates!
July 16th, 2008 at 12:30 pmGreat. Now I'm craving Afghan food.
July 16th, 2008 at 12:33 pmTrajan's next headline: TP cheers for Afghanistan Defeat!
July 16th, 2008 at 12:33 pmI don't know why people are so upset!
This is *good news*; it means that the dead-enders are in the "last throes", if you will, of the insurgency.
We went through the same process in iraq; and things are going swimmingly there as we all know.
July 16th, 2008 at 12:34 pmWith the money we are currently pissing away, and have already urinated on in Iraq, we could have built highways, water irrigation systems, electrical generation plants, and had Afhgans on our side.
Maybe too late now.
Ruck Fepublicans.
July 16th, 2008 at 12:35 pmThe war in Iraq is lost. The mission was to disarm Saddam of WMD....he didn't have any...mission failed.
July 16th, 2008 at 12:36 pmNato?
July 16th, 2008 at 12:38 pmHow sad that people here celebrate Nato’s challenges in Afghanistan.
Celebrating? Who's celebrating? This whole thing is a huge tragedy. And anyway, I think most people on this site would have liked to see us stay in Afghanistan and finish the job there rather than running off to Iraq. Iraq has been nothing but an oil grab and a huge distraction from the real war on terror which was happenning in Afghanistan and Pakistan.
July 16th, 2008 at 12:41 pmTrippleKick Says:
I can almost hear the Harry Reids of the left saying “The war is lost”. How sad that people here celebrate Nato’s challenges in Afghanistan.
It's not that "the war is lost"; it's that it was never won, as the bush administration took eyes off the ball to start the war in iraq.
That's why
--UBL is still at large thumbing his nose at the west,
--the economy is in the tank due to out of control spending,
--inflation is at its highest point since bush sr. lost his bid for reelection,
--the US govt. is torturing prisoners and seeking to lower the psychological bar for the american people so that torture is acceptable (despite the fact that japanese officers were executed after WW2 for doing the same things to american prisoners)
--the Constitution is in tatters since the president considers it no more than "just a goddamned piece of paper"
July 16th, 2008 at 12:44 pmTrippleKick Says:
How sad that people here celebrate Nato’s challenges in Afghanistan.
Wouldn't be a challenge if Bush had sent the necessary forces to Afghanistan, instead of Iraq. Osama bin Forgotten would have been captured by now.
WE TOLD YOU SO!
July 16th, 2008 at 12:45 pmTrippleKick Says:
How sad that people here celebrate Nato’s challenges in Afghanistan.
July 16th, 2008 at 12:35 pm
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Well why do you and your troll buddies keep doing it, then?
July 16th, 2008 at 12:46 pmmongo, don't forget we just had the largest federally supported banking rescue/welfare since the Republican Great Depression.
July 16th, 2008 at 12:46 pmAh, the tail between the legs syndrome.
Sweet
July 16th, 2008 at 12:50 pmHow will McSame spin this one? Wasn't it just yesterday he said he would recommend that NATO send more soldiers to Afghanistan. I believe it was just AFTER he sorta agreed with Obama that 30,000 more troops were needed there and just BEFORE he said that BOTH the US and NATO should send more. Also does anyone really believe that Bin Laden is still alive? Bhutto said in an interview before she was killed that she knew for a fact that he has been dead since 2003 (I think).
July 16th, 2008 at 12:53 pmI'd really like to see the Bush administration's spin on this one.
Although I bet it will be a rehash of the same ole' rubbish they been dishing out since they embarked into two (two!) disastrous military occupations.
The same rubbish kool-aid drinkers and other 23%ers (like TrippleKick)can't wait to come here and babble about.
July 16th, 2008 at 12:55 pmOh, and TrippleKick, nobody is celebrating the deaths in Afghanistan, or anywhere else -you halfwitted fool.
All the posts I read were full of sarcasm because people are understandably, you know, pissed after being lied to for so long and so transparently -about Iraq, Afghanistan, the economy...
July 16th, 2008 at 12:57 pmHmmmm.
It seems to me that that nice Safe Zone set up on the frontier in Pakistan for his Taliban friends by Musharraf and his butt buddy George Bush might have just a little teensy *something* to do with the Taliban being able to plan, recruit for and execute full-out attacks like this one...
But no, that can't be. We've obviously got them on the run.
/sarc off
July 16th, 2008 at 1:03 pmYou can judge for yourselves if it is legitimate.
July 16th, 2008 at 1:03 pm
Trippledicker, you must be a masochist, to come to this site and get smacked down, now on almost a daily basis.
You never answered my question from yesterday: When the special forces commanders on the ground in Tora Bora had Laden cornered and asked for more resources, they were denied. Why?
July 16th, 2008 at 1:04 pmCrippledick; up yours.
July 16th, 2008 at 1:17 pmWayne A. Schneider Says:
You can judge for yourselves if it is legitimate.
Translation of Funeral Article in Egyptian Paper:
al-Wafd, Wednesday, December 26, 2001 Vol 15 No 4633
July 16th, 2008 at 1:03 pm
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I don't buy it. It's possible that al-Wafd may have run the story in 2001, but I can't find it on
Also, al-Wafd has run more recent articles on the rift between the Taliban and bin Laden, and on recent</a bin Laden messages.
So it would seem that, even if they did print it back in 2001, they either retracted it or don't believe their own story.
July 16th, 2008 at 1:36 pmYeesh. I really screwed up the formatting there, eh?
July 16th, 2008 at 1:49 pmJust like every illegal invasion in history, Afghanistan was lost the moment we toppled the government in retaliation for the crimes of civilians. Iraq is worse.
BTW stupid trolls. A Patriot cheers their country when it's in the right and seeks to change that which is wrong. So long as jackbooted thugs keep committing grave crimes in our name? Patriots will seek positive change.
Why do trolls hate positive change?
July 16th, 2008 at 2:51 pmWait 'til we invade Pakistan and make short work of the remnants of the Taliban...I can't wait to hear you pricks whine...
July 16th, 2008 at 3:40 pmaceomalley7:
July 16th, 2008 at 3:44 pmWhen is this gonna be? You're just making stuff up again aren't you?
And where, pray tell, would an a$$monkey find the resources to invade a nuclear power with three times the population of Iraq and Afghanistan combined?
July 16th, 2008 at 3:49 pmHi db. How's things?
July 16th, 2008 at 3:50 pmpete:
July 16th, 2008 at 3:52 pmaceomalley7 wasn't being serious. He was just reaching out for some attention.
That's why I addressed "a$$monkey". I figured no innocent person would respond to such a name.
July 16th, 2008 at 4:05 pmTry this on for size a$$holes: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article4340239.ece
July 16th, 2008 at 6:36 pmHi ace.
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